This song is definitely Stuilly's anthem. I can't think of another 'crime boyfriends' song like this.

Edit* Did you know that it's confirmed by Scream Screenwriter Kevin Williamson that Stu and Billy were written based on two real-life gay serial killers named Nathan Freudenthal Leopold Jr. And Richard Albert Loeb, who were Chicago University students back in the 1900's who desired to commit the perfect Murder. Williamson urges fans to research more about Nathan and Richard to get a better understanding of Stu and Billy, in quotations, "One of the reasons that one could get the other one [to follow] is because I think the other one was secretly in love with him. And it was sort of a fascinating case study on double murderers. If you Google 'Leopold and Loeb' you will see. And you'll read about it, and you'll get, ok, that's Billy and Stu," -Kevin Williamson

Actor Neve Campbell, the woman who played Sidney Prescott in the Scream franchise, had a little something to say herself. She says during an interview with 'Pride Source', "Maybe some of their anger comes from not being allowed to be who they want to be, if you wanna go there,". She also claims that Stu was probably more in love with Billy than the other way around. Williamson agrees and says, "One was the follower, and one was the leader,"

Sources:

It's Canon That Billy And Stu Are Queer-Coded in 'Scream' (1996) https://creepycatalog.com/its-canon-that-billy-and-stu-are-queer-coded-in-scream-1996/

I need to know. Out of these 3 men:

Patrick Bateman (American Pyscho 2000)

Anakin Skywalker (Star Wars Trilogy)

Billy Loomis (Scream 1996)

Which one would you willingly date and form a toxic relationship with?

(Why these absolutely random characters you ask? Well, they're my character crushes, and I'm curious)

*Credit to original creator on the top left*

No, but fr, I get so jealous when other people like him but so defensive when some people dislike him. I have a serious issue 😭

I live delusionally. I just tell myself scream 3 never happened, and Roman doesn't exist and never "manipulated" Billy into deciding to kill Maureen just so that Billy can continue being the most intelligent, manipulative, and evil character and not be downgraded like this.

I always see people say Jill is the best Ghostface, even compared to the og Billy, and I'm here to explain why I disagree.

People always say that Jill is the better because she lasted longer, but from what I remember is that Billy and Stu specifically wanted to unalive Sydney on the anniversary of her mother's (Maureen's) death, another victim of Billy and Stu, and that was a year ago, Jill's motive was fame and that could have lasted however long she wanted, Billy and Stu's reveal was quick for that purpose.

While I do agree that Jill did make smarter decisions than Billy and Stu, who would have won if they didn't get so distracted and stab each other before killing Sydney, we cant deny they are also very smart. They had made drawn-out plans to get away with murder before, and that had been successful, all from just watching horror movies. They're also great manipulators as Billy had managed to make his victims daughter fall in love, date, and take her virginity. Stu and Billy had made all of the friend group trust them. And we can assume Billy had managed to persuade Stu to follow through with the plans in the first place.

Physically, there is no denying that Billy had a way higher physical advantage on Jill or anyone else, as he had managed to break a glass window by jumping at it. Fought against Sidney Prescott. Billy should be comparable to Stu Macher, whom he traded stabs with. Billy knocked out Gale with a kick. Overpowered many people many times (Sydney, Hung Casey Becker from a tree), not to mention he had caught up to Sydney and Casey multiple times when they ran, even when he was harmed.

Durability wise, Billy was unharmed from tumbling down the stairs, which could leave head injuries. He had traded stabs with Stu Macher. Withstood getting two glass bottles smashed on him. Briefly survived a gunshot wound. Was only temporarily stunned after getting stabbed in the heart with an umbrella by Sidney.

If there was anything I forgot to add or mention, please tell me. Also, this isn't hate against anyone. I just think Billy is the better Ghostface (Plus Stu, but I was mostly talking about Billy)

*Lady Gaga's "Monster" playing in the back*

Me: Yeah...I have a type.

!SPOILERS!

Just watched the FNAF Movie, and it was so bad.

The movie was very cliche and predictable. They downplayed all the characters a lot, especially Springtrap. The only thing that made this movie tolerable was the references and the Cory and Gametheory cameos, but it feels like thats all that they were hoping we'd get excited for. The characters were annoying, and the only character I could sympathize with was Mike. Vanessa and Williams' relation was disappointing, and I felt it was unnecessary. Why couldn’t they have just made it like she was tricked and/or mind controlled like in the game. The scary shots and gore were cool. It felt like Blackphone with all the dreams and ghosts. In short, this was a letdown, in my opinion, and very disappointing, this feels like they slapped Freddy and Williams name on the plot of some blackphone imitation, as I said earlier.

I wish the books (and fans) didn't make William Afton such a horrible father.

The books came out in 2020 and are continuously produced. The games I am referring too such as "Sister location" and "Fnaf 4" came out in 2016 and 2015, I mention this because I'm explaining I'm discluding the books in my arguments, as they aren't relevant to the games as they are confirmed to be their own universe and not canon to game lore.

I mean, yeah, you could argue he was quite neglectful, but how do we know he wasn't a single father in the duration of the games (specifically the flashback scenes of Sister location and Fnaf 4). In Fnaf 4, he'd take his kids to work with him when he could so he he could watch over them and do his job as the manager of the diner, because I doubt you have much time when it's just you and one other person managing a diner. As we were shown during many of the scenes where Evan and the older brother (persumed Michael Afton) would be inside the diner. There was even a scene where a man (presumably William Afton) was getting inside a spring Bonnie suit. So we can infer that he would watch over them when he could.

In the sister location flashback scenes, we could obviously tell he cared for his kids at, like, were it implied he made circus baby for Elizabeth and were he told her to never see Circus Baby alone, knowing what would happen to her if she did. Or how in the final scene of Fnaf 4 where the crying child is dying in the hospital and William Tells C.C. "You're broken...I'm still here. I will put you back together." It is confirmed by the Fnaf ultimate guide that Willaim (or C.Cs father, we can all infer is William) was watching over C.C using Fredbear because in the Sister location Private room, we see that there is a camera directly in C.Cs room, which is also the reason that Frebears eyes follow C.C around anywhere he goes and why wherever C.C is, Fredbear is.

I honestly have no idea where the idea of William physically hurting his kids (specifically Michael) came from (I saw someone say it came from the books, specifically The fourth closet, which I have not read yet, so I am unsure if that is true) as the games never give us much information of their relationship. I assume that the reason Springtrap (aka William) attacks Michael in Fnaf 3 and Pizzaria simulator, is because he was unaware it was his son, as at these moments of time Michael would be way older and also, a dead decomposing corpse. Again, we really don't have a lot of information on the two's relationship, so this is a difficult argument to make, but I would like to assume they had a decent relationship since Michael in the beginning was putting Elizabeth and the others back together, as William had asked, which seems like an effort only people fond of each other would got through, then Michael says "... I'm going to come find you. I'm going to come find you,". Then, I assume that his view on William changes after he runs into Henry and learns the truth. Because, how do we know he knew the truth about the missing kids before pizzareia sim? It seems like he was only taking up the jobs to find Circus Baby and Springtrap.

I bring this all up because of the new lore drop that Fnaf 4 was an experiment done by William Afton on his own kids. Which to me seemed out of nowhere and slightly out of character because William was killing those kids for remnant, but I don't see a reason why he'd do things like that to his own kids. I feel like this lore drop is an attempt to bring back Willaims relevancy since Secruity Breach and to make him look even more like a villain.

If I got anything mixed up or wrong, sorry, it's been a while since I refreshed my memory on Fnaf, and I'll edit anything that is off.

Do any Fnaf fans remember the fan game Day Shift At Freddy's? That was one of the only fans games I truly watched other than Jr's. That game seriously feels like a fever dream tbh. It was so funny though.

*EDIT I know the fandom is still pretty active, I just meant that I'm not the one currently active in it. My bad.

Here's an opinion of mine that may spur some argument.

I believe Mangle was and is always a boy.

My argument for this is. Mangle is a product of Foxy. It doesn't matter if he was a product of Funtime Foxy or not. Both Foxy's are male. In fact, all the Foxys are males, all the Chicas are girls, all the Freddy's are Males and Almost all the Bonnie's are male (Besides Bon-Bon and Bonnet). We know this because Phoneguy explicitly said he was meant to be a friendlier looking Foxy, but unfortunately, the kids tore him apart, speaking of which a direct quote from Phoneguy states "...Now he's just a mess of parts, ...I think the employees refer to him as Mangle..." Not only that, but the official "Five Nights At Freddy's Official character encyclopedia" by Scott Cawthon only refers to Mangle during his entire chapter by Him. There are no alterations between "he" and "she". Just him.

So why was he on UC's "Girls night only" and why was he always alternated between "he" and "she" so often in the past. Well, we all know that Scott Cawthon is on the trends and theories when it comes to his Fandom, so I believe Scott was just teasing all his fans with Mangles gender, and he finally decided to say it as it is. Which is he.

EDIT* Also, just because he's pink doesn't mean he's female, as shown by Funtime Foxy and Funtime Freddy. Let's not gender normalize colors.

I have to get something off my chest. I really didn't like Secruity Breach Ruin. I felt as though it was incredibly boring and anti climactic. Most of the time, Cassie was just wandering around and doing tasks. The other animatronics weren't ever really a threat and so easy to surpass because they were damaged and slow and easily distracted. Plus, Roxy wasn't even a threat to us as she recognized us . And, the Sun/Moon arc was repetitive as we did that whole jungle gym hide and seek chase in the first SB. The virus never really did that much harm to us and sort of just was an inconvenience.

I do not care for this new character "Cassie" and her relationship with Roxy will never surpass Gregory and Glamrock Freddy's (I mention this because I have seen so many people say something along the lines of that). With Freddy and Gregory, we got to see their relationship build, and it was so much like a found family. Glamrock Freddy saved us multiple times, comforted us, and kept us safe in his stomach hatch. He was just extremely helpful, and an important character is my point. I'm getting tired of people saying Gregory is a heartless brat. He did care for Glamrock Freddy. Why else would he cry when Freddy was dismantled? Why else would it be such a hard choice on whether to leave Glamrock Freddy and never come back to mega pizzaplace or stay with him and explore more? It would make sense for Gregory to be untrustworthy of an animtronic such as Freddy as the rest are trying to kill him. We saw two interactions with Roxy and Cassie, and suddenly, they were the new "Freddy and Gregory." I think not.

The game also left us with so many more questions and a cliffhanger for another game that I honestly couldn't care less for. I mean, how does Cassie know Gregory? Why is the mega pizzaplex in ruins? Who is the mimic? Why does the mimic want Cassie, etc. This is more of a personal one since I hate not knowing what is going on and what this means and just every little bit of a game plot or story. I hate being left confused.

Another complaint I have is, well, it feels nothing like a Fnaf. William isn't even the villain anymore. Is he even going to come back to the franchise at all? We barely got to see Glamrock Freddy in ruin, and I point this out because every single Freddy is the face of the franchise. You can't have a Five Nights At Freddy's game without some sort of Freddy. Michael afton isn't even a playable character anymore since he's dead. Every important character (The puppet, Michael, William, Henry, the ogs really) is dead.

I apologize if some of the arguments are sort of confusing and this is very long. I just needed to get it off my chest.

Unpopular opinion ahead:

The Five Nights At Freddys franchise should have ended at Pizzaria simulator. Don't get me wrong, Secruity Breach will forever have a special place in my heart, for it was what introduced me to FNAF, but I do believe that it, and all the others (especially Ruin) should not have been released. I just feel as though they are running out of ideas since they basically killed off every essential character that built the original franchise, and now, really, these new series are going nowhere. They're just really trying to milk FNAF for all its worth and get money. The new games don't even feel like FNAF anymore. We barely got to see much of Glamrock Freddy in Ruin at all, and William Afton (Springtrap) isn't even the villain anymore! I just don't understand why they won't let the game end.

Do any of you guys agree/disagree?

EDIT* Some people don't seem to understand, so I'm going to put it this way: When I said it should've ended at PS, I meant it like that. No continuations, no AU's, no games even similar to the franchise. I honestly believe they should have stopped making games as soon as Scott retired. I wish the movie was the franchises finale hurray, but it is not. I love the franchise wholeheartedly, but everything must come to an end eventually.

You know. You guys could just say Adam is a bad person. Maybe it's not all because Adam just never learned out to love. He obviously showed his love for skateboarding and was happy as a kid when he was skateboarding with Tadashi. He seemed to care for Joe and Cherry at some point because he kept coming back for them. Maybe he's so bad because he spent so much time feeling sorry for himself that he can't recognize how to feel sorry for others. We all know he forgot that the point of skating was that it was fun because skating was an escape from feelings for him. He felt something other than what he felt about himself when skating. Perhaps that's why he kept such a hold on Cherry, Joe, and Langa because they reminded him why he loved skating and gave him an escape. They made him feel what fun is. That's why when he thought Langa abandoned him, he started feeling sorry for himself again, went back to feeling empty, and started behaving as we all know him for. He does show that he does have feelings, but he just forgets he does as he's so used to wallowing or obsessing. And maybe the obssessing over Langa is a distraction from his feelings as well.

Or not. He could just be a terrible person.

(Not excusing his creepy behavior towards Langa or him hospitalizing Cherry. Just putting him into a perspective)

Okay, so I've had this theory forever and now I feel confident enough to share it.

So, my theory is that it's actually Michael who is singing ( "The song I can't fix you" by the living tombstone) and not Circus baby because, when they say "Is it because I can't be her" referring to how Elizabeth was most likely a favored child, due to the fact that it's implied that William made Circus baby for her and to (maybe) look like her. Also, they say "I can't fix you", like how William told Evan he'll "put him back together" and how Micheal said " I found her, I put her back together, just like you asked me to" and maybe since Circus baby was designed as a child snatching machine, Michael is saying he can't bring Elizabeth back . Also, when it says " I wonder if you feel the kind of pain that rips your insides out, that's something I know all about" Elizabeth's insides weren't ripped out, she was snatched up, Michaels insides were ripped out by the scooper in the end of the game. Another example is when they say "you oversaturate your world with nothing but machines, you might make everyone happy but you're dead inside just like me" could be Michael saying this to William, how he was so focused on making these machines for the restaurant and for children and how the intentions looked innocent but was hiding the cold truth of Williams killing tendencies and it seems like Michael, in the end, is the only one aware that William is the killer, since Elizabeth really thinks she circus baby and thinks Michael is the "purple man" (as implied when Michael says to William "she thinks I'm you")

I may be over analyzing this but I think it may be kind of cool if Michael was the one actually singing instead of Baby