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I was today years old when I found out Yusuke Murata uses BL as a reference to draw male characters in One Punch Man
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@lovetosstuff I find your comment pretty useless to the discourse as a whole, because all you do is shift the focus on other matters that have nothing to do with what we're talking about here.
- You can still have Guts feel rage and pain while conveying Casca's own feelings of pain and rage. Like what happens in Kaze to ki no Uta. Again, not making it ENTIRELY about Guts. He is a SA victim too, so his pain is completely understandable and realistic, but Casca is a victim as well and she doesn't get to say or feel a single thing about it. The focus is always Guts, thus she's used as a narrative tool to inflict pain, not a character.
- Graphic doesn't equate great storytelling. Being too graphic can cheapen a story sometimes, making it too much or even making you laugh by how edgy it is. You need balance to convey something, especially with gore and such. Take the anime "Another" and "Corpse Party" as an example (you can see a death compilation on YouTube for both) the death scenes try to be so realistic, grusome and detailed that they fail on doing what they're supposed to do, that is, make you scared and uneasy. Instead, you laugh at the overly realistic characters' expressions and over the top deaths. What's the difference between a non-con hentai and a rape scene drawn in a normal manga ? It's in how it's framed and drawn.
These are a rape scene from Shamo and one from Baki :
This is Casca's : (removed it because it got flagged)
My question is, why does it need to be this graphic ? (And these are not even the worst panels) Not to have a great impact. Guts rape fade to black too, we don't see his blushy, moaning, panting face and a realistic depiction of his body being raped, we don't have a close up of his ass, his sex or Donovan entering, yet it has an impact on the reader. Why does this specific one require "more graphic representation" ? Because, in the narrative, Casca is an object. The focus is on the sexual act, her body and there's an emphasis on the bodily fluids. It looks more like an hentai than a heart wrecking scene, like it is supposed to be. I'm sick of the "it needs to be realistic" bullshit, because you can be realistic in a respectful way, something that this scene, unlike the many others in Berserk, lack. Miura himself stated in an interview that he regretted even writing it.
- "The same thing happens with Guts in the entire series" When. Literally, when does Guts get depicted like this during a rape. Point it out to me and I will shut up.
- The point about women wanting to be Casca make no sense whatsoever. Some women say those things. SO ? How is this my concern ? How does this make my point invalid ? How am I blowing things out of proportion when the scene is there and visible for everyone ? I'm not making things up. The scene is drawn that way. I'm not horny nor I want to condemn Miura. I'm making a normal criticism about a manga I love, because nothing is perfect and everything can always be improved. I'm not attacking anyone, and I don't understand why you're being so defensive.
- No, the same thing doesn't happen to Guts in any way, shape or form. Again, point to me a rape scene in which Guts body and reactions are portrayed like that and I will shut up. Also, why divert the discourse onto sexualization when I was talking specifically about depiction of rape ? As long as they're flashed out, I don't really care about characters being sexualized sometimes. But you need to draw a line between "appropriate" and "inappropriate" for the context. Guts nor Griffith where ever sexualized and objectified like that during a rape scene, Casca was. I would have the same criticism if Guts was depicted the same way as Casca during something like that, but he's not. He never was.
- I never said or implied objectifying a man to that degree is fine.
- I never said the author is a rapist
- I never said there are pages upon pages of just rape
- I don't lack context because Berserk is one of my favorite manga. I own the volumes, I've reread it multiple times both in English and Italian. Again, I'm criticizing something I love. Berserk isn't a Bible, Miura wasn't a prophet and his work isn't the flawless work of a God.
- I don't know why you're so fixated on male fanservice and fanservice in general/normal occasions when I never talked about it, but ok.
At this point you're making up an argument in your mind to project your anger for these random people onto me, when I never said more than half the things you responded to.
I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate the treatment Casca gets as a character after The Golden Age (I have some problems even with her characterization after she fell for Guts during that same arc, but those are minor complaints compared to the state of current Casca).
The first complaint would absolutely be the treatment of her situation as an SA survivor. I don't think her trauma is ever explored on a deeper note, nor her actual pain for the whole situation she got trapped in. The focus of her rape isn't on her, it's always on Guts' pain and Guts' feelings about it, backed up by actual interviews in which Miura stated he made the rape scene just for the eclipse to be more painful for Guts. The rape itself is drawn in a way that makes it extremely uncomfortable to witness, not for its brutality nor because you feel the pain she's feeling, but because it's drawn as if it was a non-con hentai, something that always disturbed me. How come the same person who put so much heart and genuine care into realistically depict Guts' trauma as a survivor could do something so distasteful ?
That event would curse her character into becoming a complete tool for the story and its male characters to use. During the eclipse her body serves as a mere object for Griffith to project his pain onto Guts, the same Guts that thinks about raping her as a way to get closer to Griffith. The same Guts that on a lot of occasions thinks about abandoning her to chase after Griffith, and that a lot of times treat her as an inconvenience. Even after getting her sanity back, she can do nothing but become a narrative tool to give Guts' a reason to chase after Griffith again.
During the Golden Age she was interesting, but she's always been "a girl in love", always pining for some guys. Griffith didn't want her so she got with Guts instead, to cure their mutual obsession with the man. I hope the manga doesn't end with Casca staying romantically involved with Guts, because to me their relationship never felt genuine. Casca in the narrative is something Guts use to delude himself into thinking he would ever be able to just let go of Griffith and forget all that happened.
In the current arc, after being kidnapped, she's getting dressed in fancy clothes, dreaming and sleeping, while Guts is more concerned about his sword than he is for her. I don't think she would ever recover from this character assassination, but I do hope she gets a bit of autonomy in the end.
#berserk#sorry if my english is bad#idk what to say anymore#just my opinion#guts berserk#casca#griffith#“outside of Tumblr I would've been eaten alive” she said
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I'm responding here to one comment in the notes because the response came out really long and I wanted to deep dive into it.
!!mention of SA!!
So, the commentor said that "Casca's rape was drawn like that to shock the reader" and that Casca's trauma isn't explored because she isn't the protagonist and it's Guts' story, so I wanted to give my two cents.
It's Guts' story, true, but Casca is a deuteragonist, not just some random woman. You can say she and Griffith are technically the major main characters after Guts, and if you compare the two her poor writing becomes even more noticeable :
They both have a dream, Griffith wants the castle, Casca wants to be Griffith's sword because, she says, she believes in his cause. Well, after he's imprisoned we find out she wanted to become Griffith's sword not because she believed in him, but because she couldn't become his woman, because he didn't want her she found another way to be close to him. So, her noble motives get annihilated and reduced to pining after a man. She doesn't have an actual dream, nor an arc in which she finds out what she wants to do with her life. She just kinda goes with the first available option hoping Griffith would recognize her some day.
Both Casca and Griffith, even tho on a different level, had experienced SA. On Griffith's side, after he sleeps with Gennon, even tho it was technically consensual, we have a scene in which he's framed as a victim, giving his reasonings for doing such a thing, diving deeper into his trauma for the situation as a whole and why he arrived to such a point for his comrades. So, he's treated with respect by the narrative, we don't see pornographic scenes of the act yet we can still feel shocked by what happened through Casca's and his words. The same goes for Guts' : we don't see anything, yet we can still fell shocked for what happened through his words, his body language and Gambino's betrayal. The narrative treats these two like people with complex emotions, with respect and care while still leaving the reader shocked. On the other hand, Casca's rape is treated the same way as random shock value gore is in the narrative. There could have been a thousand different methods for it to still happen in a way that treats the character as a human person and not a tool. We don't even know her feelings about it, further proving that her experience doesn't concern her at all in the narrative, something extremely offensive for the character and her credibility as such.
I always use Kaze to Ki no Uta by Keiko Takemiya as an example for good depiction of SA when talking about Berserk, because it's done in an incredibly respectful way in my opinion, and because Miura stated he took the manga as an inspiration for Berserk.
Here the main character, Gilbert, is being assaulted by a group of other students as a punitive expedition. Because of trauma as a survivor due to being repetitively assaulted by his only parental figure as a child, when this happens he completely freezes as a defense mechanism, and then, the day after, acts like nothing happened as a way to cope while struggling internally with depression and self harming tendencies (that is, using prostitution as a way to punish and inflict pain on himself for what happens in his life and to regain control). In these panels there's nothing sexual. They are still shocking even tho you see basically nothing.
Again, here Gilbert is being assaulted -by the person that assaulted him for all his life and that gave him SA trauma- in front of the person he loves, Serge. The perpetrator, Auguste, is doing this as a way to punish Serge for trying to help Gilbert get out of this circle of abuse. Visually, It's basically an eclipse-like situation.
Keiko Takemiya is able to convey feelings of impotence, making the reader uncomfortable and anxious by paneling, good use of black and white and expressions alone. Something that Miura knew how to do, but didn't want specifically for Casca's rape, for some reasons. Here the focus isn't a pornographic depiction of Gilbert's body, but on how disgusting and scary Auguste is.
When Serge thinks about what happened it's always
"What did he do to HIM ?"
and never
"What did he do to ME ?"
Because he understands that the victim here is Gilbert. He doesn't make it about himself or how miserable it makes him feel while being treated as the major victim by the narrative. To me, that's good writing.
I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate the treatment Casca gets as a character after The Golden Age (I have some problems even with her characterization after she fell for Guts during that same arc, but those are minor complaints compared to the state of current Casca).
The first complaint would absolutely be the treatment of her situation as an SA survivor. I don't think her trauma is ever explored on a deeper note, nor her actual pain for the whole situation she got trapped in. The focus of her rape isn't on her, it's always on Guts' pain and Guts' feelings about it, backed up by actual interviews in which Miura stated he made the rape scene just for the eclipse to be more painful for Guts. The rape itself is drawn in a way that makes it extremely uncomfortable to witness, not for its brutality nor because you feel the pain she's feeling, but because it's drawn as if it was a non-con hentai, something that always disturbed me. How come the same person who put so much heart and genuine care into realistically depict Guts' trauma as a survivor could do something so distasteful ?
That event would curse her character into becoming a complete tool for the story and its male characters to use. During the eclipse her body serves as a mere object for Griffith to project his pain onto Guts, the same Guts that thinks about raping her as a way to get closer to Griffith. The same Guts that on a lot of occasions thinks about abandoning her to chase after Griffith, and that a lot of times treat her as an inconvenience. Even after getting her sanity back, she can do nothing but become a narrative tool to give Guts' a reason to chase after Griffith again.
During the Golden Age she was interesting, but she's always been "a girl in love", always pining for some guys. Griffith didn't want her so she got with Guts instead, to cure their mutual obsession with the man. I hope the manga doesn't end with Casca staying romantically involved with Guts, because to me their relationship never felt genuine. Casca in the narrative is something Guts use to delude himself into thinking he would ever be able to just let go of Griffith and forget all that happened.
In the current arc, after being kidnapped, she's getting dressed in fancy clothes, dreaming and sleeping, while Guts is more concerned about his sword than he is for her. I don't think she would ever recover from this character assassination, but I do hope she gets a bit of autonomy in the end.
#berserk#again#sorry#rambles#that scene just enrages me on a deeper level#just my opinion#sorry if my english is bad#casca#griffith#guts berserk#kaze to ki no uta
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I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate the treatment Casca gets as a character after The Golden Age (I have some problems even with her characterization after she fell for Guts during that same arc, but those are minor complaints compared to the state of current Casca).
The first complaint would absolutely be the treatment of her situation as an SA survivor. I don't think her trauma is ever explored on a deeper note, nor her actual pain for the whole situation she got trapped in. The focus of her rape isn't on her, it's always on Guts' pain and Guts' feelings about it, backed up by actual interviews in which Miura stated he made the rape scene just for the eclipse to be more painful for Guts. The rape itself is drawn in a way that makes it extremely uncomfortable to witness, not for its brutality nor because you feel the pain she's feeling, but because it's drawn as if it was a non-con hentai, something that always disturbed me. How come the same person who put so much heart and genuine care into realistically depict Guts' trauma as a survivor could do something so distasteful ?
That event would curse her character into becoming a complete tool for the story and its male characters to use. During the eclipse her body serves as a mere object for Griffith to project his pain onto Guts, the same Guts that thinks about raping her as a way to get closer to Griffith. The same Guts that on a lot of occasions thinks about abandoning her to chase after Griffith, and that a lot of times treat her as an inconvenience. Even after getting her sanity back, she can do nothing but become a narrative tool to give Guts' a reason to chase after Griffith again.
During the Golden Age she was interesting, but she's always been "a girl in love", always pining for some guys. Griffith didn't want her so she got with Guts instead, to cure their mutual obsession with the man. I hope the manga doesn't end with Casca staying romantically involved with Guts, because to me their relationship never felt genuine. Casca in the narrative is something Guts use to delude himself into thinking he would ever be able to just let go of Griffith and forget all that happened.
In the current arc, after being kidnapped, she's getting dressed in fancy clothes, dreaming and sleeping, while Guts is more concerned about his sword than he is for her. I don't think she would ever recover from this character assassination, but I do hope she gets a bit of autonomy in the end.
#rambles#berserk#i just wanted to talk about this#if i said something like this outside of tumblr I would be eaten alive#just my opinion#casca#griffith#guts berserk#sorry if my english is bad
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this is so strange to me. In the fandom of my language there has always been a well-known youtuber in the anime manga sphere (he holds conferences at comic cons and even organizes some of them) that always described Berserk as a complicated love story between Guts and Griffith, who are similar to Akira and Ryo from Devilman. He does weekly live readings of the manga, in which he analyzes the scenes with Guts and Griffith with a "peculiar lens" (at least by the standards of most of the English fandom)
I remember he described this scene as extremely romantic, saying that Griffith was making bedroom eyes and Guts' feelings could be seen very clearly :
and this as a representation of Guts' sexual attraction towards Griffith (Griffith being the moon, and Guts' sword being his erected "sword" pointing at him) :
On my speaking side there are also fewer people painting Griffith as a complete sociopath, preferring a more nuanced view.
Because of that, I remember the first time I had contact with Berserk English fandom I was flabbergasted by all the homophobia and lack of media literacy of most of its people, especially on reddit.
so, i’m new to berserk. and i’m just shook at how blatant the homoerotic subtext is? like why did no one tell me about this? I would've read it a lot sooner. I have this very clear memory of me having just read a fanfiction where a guy had just given another guy a blowjob. then I switched off to reading the beginning of the golden age arc, and their duel made me think “this was the gayest shit I’ve ever seen” (much gayer than the literal sex scene that I had just read!!) (1/2)
(2/2) And then it somehow got even queerer as time went on? HOW. The romantic subtext is so obvious that I don’t understand how others can miss it. Pretending these two aren’t down bad for each other is like denying that the sky is blue. No wonder this fandom has such trash takes and bad reading comprehension, they refuse to see the obvious and it’s maddening
lmao yeah if you look at most sites people get information about a canon, like the wiki or tv tropes, you'd never know how gay it is. Even I was totally blindsided by the homoeroticism when I read the manga in 2017, and that was technically a re-read - it's just that the sites where I'd read up on it before diving back in downplayed griffguts so much that I assumed it wasn't nearly as gay as I remembered. And yeah no, turns out it's much gayer.
Glad you checked it out eventually anyway!
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joseph: hermit purple..!! we have to take a picture of dio..!!!!
dio in his stupid mansion:
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It began when the director told me, "It's not that she doesn't have emotion, but that she doesn't know what it is." His technical request was that I should read my lines as flat as possible. But she's obviously not a machine; she's a human being, flesh and blood. It's a huge difference between "not having emotion" and "not knowing emotion." After all, she could develop feelings, once she learned...
What I learned from meeting a girl who didn't know, Megumi Hayashibara
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Neon Genesis Evangelion: Campus Apocalypse - Ch. 9
This page's so sweet but the last panel's also really funny to me. Shinji said
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Devilman “Love Story” Translations
a while ago these translations were posted on twitter. you may have seen them already, but if not, here you go! twitter user rebanadadepera is the original translator and you can check out the original post on twitter here! this translation is posted here by the translator’s request. this translation is also available in spanish.
The first excerpt comes from the book 「永井豪の世界」 (“Go Nagai’s World”) which was published back in 1978.
Continua a leggere
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