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If you ever thought you arrived late in a fandom, just remember that the greek mythology one is hundreds of years old.

#greek gods #greek mythology #gods #fandoms #and people still do fan works for it #and the bible one

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en-d-d · 10 hours

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i like how the opening-ish story of the smiling/dancing statue creature lays out the thematic foundations of the narrative. here we have a slab of rock, formed by chance to slightly resemble a human figure, but through centuries of people’s beliefs and expectations and demands and lore thrown at this inanimate object, it turns into a monstrous form of what they imagined it to be.

and then we have that same thing happen in differing scales and intensities to multiple characters in the main narrative, most notably Wei Wuxian and Jin Guangyao. and it’s as much about their attempts to resist this transformation (one more successfully than the other) as it is about the inevitability of it.

i also think there’s something to be said here about Lan Wangji (lol you know i can’t make a post without mentioning him), and how he (alone, i think) does actually manage to evade the power of external judgement and perception, because he remains true to his own principles to such an extreme extent that even after publicly defending Wei Wuxian and grieving his death, and even after being openly gay with him post-resurrection, the public opinion of him still doesn’t waver, and he never changes to suit or spite it.

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Bro I wish people were more honest about things. Like, you don't want me to come with y'all out? Okay, just say so, you don't hurt my feelings. If you don't want me there anyways, I know to not insert myself. Stop dancing around me like a fool and tell it to my face. I will not take your social cues, use your words, for god's sake.

#social cues

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en-d-d · 2 days

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ORV ao3 people please help me out here, I'm looking for a fic about the demon castle ark in Yjh's perspective. It's mostly aimed in the last chapters of the ark (you know where ;)). I can't find it no matter how much I'm searching!

#orv #kim dokja #omniscient reader's viewpoint #yoo joonghyuk #ao3

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en-d-d · 5 days

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That's why I love the novel so much, and hate fanon wwx characterization as much. I always feel like some people in this fandom actually can't comprehend what's happening. 'Wwx was arrogant!' or 'He should have listened what others said.' genuinely madden me, becouse exactly what you said. People keep provoking him until his breaking point and then gasp in outrage when he retaliates, like holy hell, I deeply understand what he's feeling, becouse I myself often encounter people that will not stand down until you're half mad, screaming your guts out. And I'm sure for him it's even more difficult, becouse he actually had no one. (And if you told me he had Lwj, I will just tell you this - just becouse Lwj wasn't opposite him didn't mean he was on his side. In the end, Wwx had no debt to him of any kind. Lwj, until the very last second, did not do anything to actually indicate he was on his side. When he did do something, it was already too late)

Also, the point I actually wanted to get at, is how much I love Jin Zixuan's death in the novel. There was no array or tricks to justify what happened to him and pin the blame on someone else. Jin Zixuan marched angrily into a battlefield, did not know what happened, but still pined the blame on wwx (despite the 300 archers present there) and made himself appear antagonizing. And Wwx snapped. Not becouse of ghostly cultivation.

Accused. Overwhelmed. Circled. Antagonized. (And also The Trauma™) How much can someone reasonably be expected to endure until they cannot anymore? And is it their fault? When they do something horrible? When the next second, they can already feel the dread pooling in their guts and their head spinning. When they realize the monster they had been made. And the guilt engulfs you whole. How much can you push someone, but not take credit in their fall?

I just think it's a beautiful way to portray how human wwx is. Becouse I understand. I love wwx for his humanity, and judge the people that sing how everything was his fault. I will just say it now, but if I was him, I would have done worse, no questions asked. I would be blinded by hatred, lost by all hope, and abandon everything that made me seem like a civilizate human being.

Becouse, why should I show mercy to the people that take everything from me, my enemies? Push someone enough, and they will become your nightmare.

Do you know those tragedies where wild animals are kept in the zoo where the keepers treat them poorly, or the visitors constantly provoke them? The animal rightfully snaps and attacks, but instead of the person being held accountable, they put down the animal for being 'aggressive for no reason.' That's the current situation between Lanling Jin (especially Jin Zixun) and Wei Ying. They keep provoking him over and over again. But Jiang Cheng tells him to suck it up and stay quiet. He tries his fucking best to remain calm, and then Jin Zixun opens his vile mouth, and everything goes down from there. Do we blame Wei Ying for standing up for himself? Or do we blame Jin Zixun for provoking Wei Ying and acting as if he was attacked for no reason? A sensible person would've chosen the latter, but as we already established, Cultivation World is sick, so they choose the former. Those people keep screaming from every corner that Wei Ying is a rabid, uncontrollable beast, and then they act surprised when he starts to act like one.

#Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk #I love him sm #he's just so human #and I hate that no one sees that #I believe it was a proverb that goes #“Even a worm will turn”#mdzs #grandmaster of demonic cultivation #wei wuxian

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I keep seeing the idea that Jiang Cheng is disliked or hated for his actions because “Jiang Cheng Antis” refuse to acknowledge ugly reactions to trauma, or victims who aren’t perfect, basically citing that he should be forgiven more than we do because not everyone is going to react the same to pain and trauma and just because his reactions aren’t perfect doesn’t mean that he should be held accountable for his actions, any of them, and us calling his actions wrong or abuse is us in fact being terrible.

I want to refute this idea for a few reasons:

First off, while I can’t speak for everyone, I know that I and my friends don’t think that his initial reactions being kinda bad are necessarily damning. Nobody is going to be perfect, sometimes when we are stuck in the worst parts of our lives, we do things that we will later regret in the process of surviving those times. It doesn’t really make it okay and we should understand if the people who are around us in those times don’t want to be around us anymore after that, but it isn’t a death knell that he reacts really poorly after the initial fall of Lotus Pier and the death of his parents and everyone he’s grown up with. I have forgiven characters for doing worse, but proving that it was their worst and turning around after that.

The problem with that part is that he doesn’t turn anything around. He never apologizes for strangling Wei Wuxian, he continues to turn the blame for what happened on people who weren’t involved even after getting to kill Wen Zhuliu and torture Wen Chao to death, holding Wei Wuxian, Lan Wangji and, for a time, Jin Zixuan as also being responsible even though none of them were, even though he knows this and adjusts his opinion later to drop Jin Zixuan out of the blame, even though he later adds Wen Ning to his list of those to blame despite Wen Ning rescuing him from Lotus Pier and sheltering him. It isn’t a worst moment of his life, brought on by trauma and pain, it’s just the start of his sliding slope downward.

Second off is the idea that this should exonerate him of all of his actions. Look at him! He lost his parents and his clan to war by the Wens! He has suffered so much, becoming a clan leader so young in the fires of war!!!

Except… he’s not the only one, not by a long shot. Lan Wangji, Lan Xichen, Nie Mingjue and Nie Huaisang all have their fathers killed and their homes attacked by the Wens as well. Both Nie Mingjue and Lan Xichen also ascend at very young ages, no one was over twenty when they took up their positions, and at the end of the novel, Jin Ling is even younger when he takes on his own clan leader position. Also he isn’t the only one to go into war so young, Wei Wuxian is a whole five days older than he is, and the whole jianghu falls into war against the Wens, no doubt with other fighters who also lost their homes and families in the process.

It isn’t that it isn’t impressive that he manages to pull it together in the face of all that’s happening, it’s that he’s not the only person by any means to suffer this trauma. Wei Wuxian goes through the exact same journey that he does, but when this argument comes up, it’s always just for why Jiang Cheng shouldn’t be blamed, not about how their whole generation lost so much to a war that their parents left to them by refusing to do anything before even when they all saw the signs of what Wen Ruohan was doing.

The third part is that there’s apparently no limit or expiration date on how long people have to forgive him for doing whatever he wants to do. His trauma is a reason for him to treat people however he wants for as long as he wants, and they should just put up with it because he’s suffering and not all pain is beautiful.

But by the time Wei Wuxian comes back to life, it’s been almost twenty years. A whole generation, long enough for Jiang Cheng to watch his nephew grow to almost adulthood. The world as a whole is changed, he himself has transformed Lotus Pier into a whole new place; and it wasn’t because the Wens had destroyed everything, Wei Wuxian no longer recognizes it, meaning that this happened after he died. The general attitude that JC stans have towards Wei Wuxian is that he shouldn’t hold Jiang Cheng leading a siege against him because it’s been long enough, he should get over it by now. But Jiang Cheng apparently should still get to act without hesitation or consideration of others and their own pain because he is suffering, he is an imperfect victim. It doesn’t matter what else anyone else has gone through and it is unreasonable to hold him to task because he lost his family.

The whole point of poor trauma reactions is that they are moments, responses in time to events. It is one thing for Jiang Cheng to react poorly right after his family is killed and his home invaded. But he gets worse over the course of the story. The day of the attack, he strangles Wei Wuxian. That’s one thing. But three years later he turns on Wei Wuxian, declares him an enemy of the world, tells him to let the Wens be slaughtered even though they are no longer at war, later declares war on Wei Wuxian and personally leads a siege to kill him. In the interim, a time of peace in which supposedly all of his enemies are dead, he hunts down people who he claims to be demonic cultivators and people that Wei Wuxian is possessing and tortures them to death, all the while doing very little to help his people as he will only intervene once someone has already died to the problem. When Wei Wuxian returns to life thirteen years after he died, seventeen years after the war, when Jiang Cheng is literally double the age that this began, despite him deliberately trying to avoid Jiang Cheng, Jiang Cheng seeks him out multiple times specifically to hurt him, first trying to kill him with a whip that can destroy spirits possessing bodies, then tying him up and torturing him with a dog. Later he leads a second siege upon Wei Wuxian, who still has done nothing to him aside from try to avoid him before later attacking him and Lan Wangji by first demanding that they leave, then refusing to let them do so, driving Wei Wuxian to a qi deviation (which can be fatal, that’s how Nie Mingjue died) and attacking Lan Wangji and Wei Wuxian with Zidian while Wei Wuxian is unconcious before Wen Ning stops him. Even in the temple, he’s still demanding that Wei Wuxian play by his rules of debts, he’s upset because he knows that he has gone so much farther than anyone has any right to and he has nothing to hold over Wei Wuxian’s head anymore.

Fifteen years of hurting everyone around him isn’t a poor trauma response. That’s deliberate and chosen. That is what he wants to do. It is a clear line of events where in the end, the trauma is an excuse over anything else.

If it had ended at the beginning of this list, Jiang Cheng would be a very different character and Modaozushi would be a very different novel. If it were just a trauma reaction and he didn’t want to hurt anyone in the long run, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

But you cannot exonerate everything with the fact that his parents died when he was seventeen. Especially not when we have so many other people who react in so many other ways to the same pain. It is frankly ridiculous that people think he is the only one to suffer in the story, even though it is clear that no one escapes the novel unscathed and a hell of a lot of people die. Sometimes even at his hands or by his orders.

Jiang Cheng is not unsympathetic. I can understand what hurts he feels, at least to an extent. But an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind and he just keeps doing it. And then his stans show up and claim that it’s fine for him to want to kill everyone who he hates (not necessarily everyone who’s even done him wrong, and they certainly like to ignore everything he does to them) because he’s an ugly trauma victim.

He may be that, at the start. But twenty years down the line, when he gets excited at the thought of getting to torture people, that isn’t a trauma reaction anymore.

That’s a choice.

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en-d-d · 6 days

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Me everyday actually

i'm thinking about wei wuxian

#wei wuxian #wangxian #mxtx #mdzs

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en-d-d · 6 days

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So like, I know MDZS has that whole Wei Wuxian's smile is a very nice and bright thing going on and he's a pretty cheerful, optimistic and carefree guy right? In addition to that he has adopted siblings who he loves more than the world, questionable parental figures, an antagonistic view towards strict rules, and a deep love for all his precious people.

You know who this reminds me of?

Monkey D. Luffy

The obvious

Luffy is almost always seen and described with his trademark 'D' smile which is bright and happy to everyone who sees it. Both of them are people who will absolutely go to the ends of the world to make their precious people happy as well as protect them.

Family

It's also fair to take into account their familial situations, with WWX obviously not having any contact with any sort of relative of his. The closest we get, in fact, is probably Xiao XingChen, who is technically not even blood related.

Jiang Fengmian technically counts as his uncle but just barely because he knew WWX's dad very well.

And now when you look at Luffy, obviously his Dad is alive and we know Jack about his mom, but both are noticeably absent from their child's life. The only "parental" figures in his life (if you can even call them that despite how much I love them.) are Dadan and Garp.

(I'm sorry to say that Shanks doesn't count despite how much it hearts my heart. But he's more of an idol to Luffy and was only around for maybe a year at most in Fuscha? Though I guess you can call him a parental figure if you squint, but even then he's an active pirate and that alone warrants the 'questionable' title.)

And look, Dadan...is a mountain bandit and clearly not the 'parental' type, despite how much she loves ASL, and Garp... Well, do I need to say anything there? Sicked his grandchildren onto a mountain bandit and regularly put them into dangerous situations in order to become stronger. I don't doubt he loves them, but he's just not fit for raising a child as we've seen.

You could fit Makino if you really tried but she's more like the kind older sister type than a mom.

Onto the siblings, both WWX and Luffy were brought into an already existing sibling dynamic, e.i. WWX with Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli & Luffy with Ace and Sabo. Both had a bit of a hard time entering the dynamic for differing reasons (JC because he was mad that his dogs were sent away and Ace just didn't want Luffy around until he stuck up for them with Bluejam). This is an interesting similarity because they are such differing ways to enter similar dynamics.

Views on Authority

Moving onto how they view the world, both of these characters dislike strict authority, obviously they both recognize that there needs to be some authority to regulate and decide certain matters, but strict stifling authority is where these characters start getting itchy.

Some obvious examples include WWX and the rules of Cloud Recesses, be constantly complained about them and he questioned how the disciples and sect Members even survived there. Another honorable mention should probably be the Wen clan indoctrination and how that whole bit went down.

For Luffy, I feel like I shouldn't need to mention the whole Pirates vs Marines since it's kind of a given, but for this I specifically mean the "hard" justice that many seem to have, like Akainu and the world government. Who just seem to wipe islands off the map willy and just assassinate any other opposition.

I should mention that both of these characters are fine with normal authority, each sect for WWX has their own governing style and enforcement but unless it's a problem for everyone else, they don't really do much. And Luffy is fine with fair authority given by how he treats Boa who is queen of Amazon lily, Momonosuke who is supposed to be Shogun and treats him as such, King Riku as well as Viola and Rebecca who are princesses. He simply treats everybody the same but he respects their position for the most part.

Friends and Precious people

Now, the most obvious thing here is that these characters will move the heavens, part the seas, and raise the dead for their precious people (sometimes literally). They both take Honor to their promises extremely seriously, WWX owed a life debt to Wen Qing and her brother for saving them and doing the core transfer (as well as WWX just not excusing what are essentially concentration camps), so he repaid the action by saving the remnants and he promised to bring Wen Ning back to life. Which as we all know, he did.

And that's not even saying like I mentioned that he gave his golden core to his brother since he lost it to the Melting hand, and before THAT he was willing to give up his hand so the Wens would forgive the sect. It’s also notable that he promised Madam Yu he would protect Jiang Cheng with his life, and, well, everything that happened afterward should tell you he did his best!

To say he takes his honor and promises seriously is an understatement. Yet the same is also true with Luffy.

We all know that Luffy is big on promises and his nakama, a huge part of One piece is demonstrating how far he and his crew go for their friends and comrades. Some examples of major things like this are:

Arlong Park and helping nami

Promising Laboon to come back and fight him

Helping Vivi defeat crocodile

Saving Robin at Ennies Lobby

Promising to help Brook reunite with Laboon

Literally all of Marineford (despite how it ends, the effort alone Luffy put into saving his brother should tell you enough)

Fishman island

Liberating Dressrosa

Wano (literally what do I need to say there? It speaks for itself)

I might have missed a few and others may not have made it but these are the biggest displays of Luffy loyalty and promises.

It is also notable that if you feed Luffy, he will repay it. That is a threat. Tama fed him once in Wano and after realizing that was her last bow of rice and the whole issue with the country, he literally fought to liberate the country with a whole army.

Symbolism

Theres a lot more I could say but the last things I will dig into is this. Both Luffy and WWX have constant symbolisms of ‘Freedom’, whether they’re quite literal or more nuanced.

WWX always has had a carefree character and this is displayed in numerous ways, like how he named his sword “whatever” or how how he’s unashamed to show his more childish side at times (“Xian Xian is three!”). His flippant attitude towards authority tells you enough but he’s also prone to use the punishment against the punisher by finding a way to make it entertaining for him. (I.e. annoying Lan Wangji and provoking Wen Chao.)

This is also just in general that his name is symbolism towards his character, with how Wei Wuxian means “no/without envies” which really gives you an idea about his personality. I’m not a mandarin speaker nor even attempting to learn it, so more information his name and it’s symbolism can be found on this post.

Now Luffy, we can’t exactly say the aumbolism isn’t hitting us in the fact with all the sun motifs and it literally being mentioned multiple times as “warrior of liberation”, “joyboy” and whatnot.

But Luffy’s smile and constant laughter is associated Nika the sun god who was a warrior who fought for freedom and s the god slaves pray to in secret. (And supposedly based on an actual diety whom i don’t actually remember the origins of right now.)

And with the Sun symbolism (this is honestly now head canon territory) but the thousand sunny being a ship that carries the fruit of the sun god doesn’t seem like a coincidence, and another is that Luffy’s straw hat being something akin to a halo is a pretty neat idea.

Conclusion

Both of these characters are some of my favorite in media and the similarities between symbolism and parallels they have with each other is insane, I honestly hope people see that this type of characterization is very fun and amazing.

But honestly i just wanted to write a character analysis with these two cause they are my fav bois haha.

#thank you for your wisdom #you're very right #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #one piece #character analysis #wei wuxian #monkey d. luffy #I love them sm

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en-d-d · 6 days

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I hate MDZS so much. I can't ever read anything again becouse how am I suppose to find someone like Wei Wuxian? Any other character is ranks behind the goofyness of this man, and the angst also. How can I ever be normal again? How can I not compare everyone to him?? Help me

#mdzs #wei wuxian #mxtx #I'm actually genuine #I can't read anything anymore #I'm so not normal about him

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en-d-d · 8 days

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Wangxian & Hualian?

#mdzs #wei wuxian #lan wangji #mxtx #wangxian #hua cheng #xie lian #hualian #tgcf

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It's not a coincidence that the first mission Xie Lian goes on in the story and after ascending is the one with the obsessed woman chasing the god; this is a deliberate contrast to Hua Cheng. Both Xuan Ji and Hua Cheng love the god they chase after, and both of them devote both their lives and afterlives to this god.

MXTX uses Xuan Ji to show what this kind of obsession looks like when it's unhealthy, then introduces Hua Cheng's love as a more healthy version. While Xuan Ji wants to possess, Hua Cheng only wants to protect. Hua Cheng never demands, never kills humans or worshippers (only for revenge for his god or to protect him, never to punish him for lack of attention); he in fact sacrifices to ensure their survival. Instead of demanding his god look at him, he is content to hold his hand and lead him forward. Instead of destroying his god's shrines, he helps build them.

While Hua Cheng is definitely obsessed, his obsession is a shield, a flower, an umbrella. He does not exist to pull Xie Lian down or to own him or to destroy. He exists to love his god, a fervent, selfless love. A direct contrast to Xuan Ji's.

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Thinking here and... I'm one of who believes that Jun Wu has very similar attitudes to those of sexual abusers.

He has been obsessed with Xie Lian's virginity since his first ascension, so much so that he took him to the land of tenderness to be poisoned with an aphrodisiac;

He has a sword that tests people's virginity?? And of course he used it on Xie Lian;

The calm speech, the intimacy, the way he acts as if everything is normal and praising Xie Lian's growth too... Um, you know, it's very common for sexual abusers to act so naturally towards their victims, even if he is recognized, he will act as if he even has the right to be intimate;

Jun Wu always tries to keep everyone away from Xie Lian and make Xie Lian move away from people too, or humiliate him in some way. For example, trying to make Xie Lian move away from Hua Cheng, wanting to make him believe that Hua Cheng isn't a good person and isn't worthy of his trust, making Xie Lian feel guilty and like someone lesser than him and is being disobedient.

For some people this may not be important, I'm not going to get into the discussion of "fiction x reality", "romanticization" etc., I have no interest in discussing it here, I don't want to know about it, cause I already have my own opinions.

However, for me it's important, this language is too violent for me, and it reflects a lot on my own experiences, which is why I end up thinking about these things a lot. Anyway.

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Analysis time!

I found this interpretation very interesting. The protagonists of MXTX are people who once had a lot of power, sacrificed themselves for someone who was previously weaker and lost their strength as a result, then having limitations and needing to act with what they have.

I also like how she makes her protagonists have great rises while they are (or make them) the most common people and even causes for laughter possible.

Like, "yes this scrap collector is the strongest, the most incapable of using all his power, but the only one to have ascended 3x, he is the biggest legend here and everyone still treats him with disgust".

In TGCF especially the characters' states are extremely important, and it depends on who you are, even their previous, previously "glorious" titles will be used as a joke.

So since the state Xie Lian last ascended to was that of an immortal scrap collector, he is only known as the Scrap Immortal, everyone conveniently forgets that he is a martial god, after all how can someone with so many limitations, being a scrap collector, have ascended 3x with martial skills and still be the strongest?

"Your whole glorious story is, in fact, a farce." Well, it's not. XL had his hero arc and gained a lot of power, now he continues to have all this power, but he needs to use him in other ways because of his numerous limitations, and that should not be a source of laughing, but pride, but he is still the laughingstock of the three kingdoms.

Just like "Flower Crown Martial God" has become a shameful title and is used to call Xie Lian a "gigolo", "Scrap Immortal" is also used as a shameful title, because, you know, gods are elitist,so If a prostitute or a scrap collector ascends as a martial god, no one will take it seriously and they will doubt their abilities.

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you know what’s crazy? how lan xichen defended jin guangyao saying that though the world had many misconceptions about him yet still trusted his character just to have that affirmation thrown at his face — no, it’s not even about the naivety of it that makes me laugh, it’s about how he was the person to have seen lan wangji’s grief, had seen his persistence in raising a kid on behalf of wei wuxian, had seen his trials and his willingness to be beside wei wuxian regardless of the world telling him that the guy’s evil. he’s seen it firsthand.

all the while he probably must’ve pitied his brother, uniting with the sects to kill wei wuxian nonetheless, because he didn’t believe in the patriarch’s innocence. it’s that unconscious patronisation that makes it all the more ironic. and the fact that it was exactly jin guangyao’s actions that led to wei wuxian’s downfall.

i know lan xichen’s a good person, but it’s obvious that him and lan qiren had judged wei wuxian countless time throughout it all, and not only because he was ‘tainting’ lan wangji. i was quite annoyed when he called wei wuxian ‘his only mistake’, because, in fact, lan xichen was the one who mistakenly believed in the biggest villain, so he doesn’t have any room to talk. he committed three mistakes: by his perspective of lan wangji and wei wuxian’s relationship, of wei wuxian’s evilness and in his sworn brother as a whole.

it’s more than justified that he took his time in seclusion. it takes a while to come around such a massive mistake (did he think that too, when he saw his brother doing the same all those years ago?). not to mention that it must’ve been a big blow to realize that nie huaisang wasn’t the person he thought he was as well.

this parallel just came to me and i had to rant it so. i know it’s obvious, but yeah. don’t get me wrong, i just think lan xichen having this bit of a ‘fate’ is so good to the novel. brilliant move, mxtx, brilliant move.

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I do think Wei Wuxian's final confrontation with Jiang Cheng was a relief for him. He said what he had needed, and didn't need Jiang Cheng to accept anything. Simple as that. That part of his life he could say he moved on from and it was time for Jiang Cheng as well. That's what growing up can do to friendships especially ones that are unequal and underlying cruel to you. He's not a martyr like Jiang Cheng likes to sling, caring for others is not foolish and knowing your own worth isn't arrogance.

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MDZS characters and how I feel like they would do small talk

Lan Wangji - has said almost nothing in the whole conversation, the awkwardness could kill

Lan Xichen, Jiang Yanli and Jin Guangyao - pretty skilled small talkers, they exclude this soothing vibe that never turns the conversation awkward

Jiang Cheng and Wen Qing - will never small talk. If you as much as make an attempt at small talk, they will kill you, so you're left in an awkward silence, dying inside

Wei Wuxian - impossible to have small talk to becouse it always evolves in either discussing physics or planning a revolution

Nie Huaisang - will tell you all about everything concerning arts, even if you really don't care

Jin Zixuan - says something that kills the mood and then visibly regrets it the next second, so you kinda feel sorry for his lack of social skills rather than anything else

Wen Ning - shyly nods at whatever he's told, actually kind of likes small talk. (Also unknownly knows state secrets becouse of wwx)

Wen Chao and Jin Zixun - they flaunt about their wealth and be so misogynistic that they would make a conservative feminist by the end of the conversation

Xue Yang - never had a normal conversation in all his life. The single small talk he ever did was to say a cheerful goodbye before blowing someone's brain to smits

#mdzs #mxtx #lan wangji #wei wuxian #xue yang #jiang yanli #jin guangyao #jiang cheng #wen qing #nie huaisang #jin zixuan #jin zixun #wen chao #lan xichen #wen ning #mo dao zu shi

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I love how one of the things all three mxtx series essentially boil down to is gossip is bad so learn to stfu

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