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funny/interesting anecdotes from parachute infantry:
web's head was shaved for the normandy jump
web slamming the entire package of air sickness pills in an attempt to completely numb himself from what was going on on d-day
the whole spiel about how colonel sink didn't want any of the paratroopers to be caught dead wearing these woollen hats without their helmets on because it was undignified for whatever reason and the generals would ream him about it. and web being like we're jumping into german-occupied france why are you talking about what hats we can't wear
web getting transferred from hq company because he was bored and wanted to see more action but then of course complaining every time he was in combat
the entire saga of web's hatred for lieutenant peacock. in holland, peacock made web sweep out his quarters while the enlisted men slept outside in holes. web then proceeds to dream about beating peacock with a broom/fantasize about shooting him
also: web saying the only thing him and peacock ever had in common was diarrhea
in hagenau, johnny martin almost got web and a few others killed when he called in an artillery strike way too close to the house they were holed up in and they nearly got blown up
just so much alcohol consumption. luz driving like a maniac and web raiding the berghof's cellar in berchtesgaden. web being disappointed that all hitler had was wine and champagne and no hard liquour
web being really drunk when grant was shot and barely making it out to the road to guard it in case the offending replacement showed up
the whole saga with speirs' mercedes. speirs confiscated this german car in austria but then colonel strayer wanted the car so speirs proceeded to shoot out the windshield then drive the thing off a cliff (he bailed just in time)
web being super drunk in front of speirs and embarrassing himself. then being a complete mess during ceremonial retreat and getting yelled at
stealing like 50 bottles of german gin from some factory
showing up at regimental headquarters to see about his points muddy and soaked from the rain and getting scolded by colonel sink (who he was dreaming about meeting one-on-one the entire war) for wearing fatigues in the building
there's probably more i've forgotten but boy what a book
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I finished parachute infantry. it was excellent! web was a really good writer it’s too bad he died so young and didn’t get to write more books. I’m sure I’ll have more thoughts on it in the coming days but I would definitely recommend it. it was a great read and very brutally honest and funny at times
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why does web talk to his parents like this oh my god he’s ridiculous
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I was reading a very interesting book on film style, and literally came across your header as an illustration for Band of Brothers' 'unusual horizontal staging of a gunshot death'. They're usually shot in-depth or in separate shots, so that's why this scene stands out. Do you happen to remember which episode it's from?
that’s really cool!!! it’s a very striking shot that’s why I picked it. I’m pretty sure it’s from episode 3 carentan. it happens during the fight in the city
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Vote lieb for your country
that's 1-800-lieb-for-your-country - dial now.
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“Don’t get hurt.”
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NATE MANN as ROBERT ROSENTHAL
MASTERS OF THE AIR
Part Six
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DAMIAN LEWIS as LT. RICHARD "DICK" WINTERS
BAND OF BROTHERS | Part 2: "Day of Days"
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we have fog like this back home. always spooked me as a kid.
#why does the big pilot not simply eat the little pilot#masters of the air#gale cleven#curtis biddick
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We’re not mutuals or anything but everytime I see you post about webgott my brain immediately goes that’s mutual in webgott brainrot right there
we’re in this together 🤝 the way they’ve infected my brain like a parasite (it’s terminal)
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THIS IS LONG AS FUCK LMAO IM SO SORRY IN ADVANCE I REALLY JUST STARTED YAPPING but i saw your post abt mota characters being underdeveloped compared to other hbo war shows and had some Thoughts
this is something i’ve heard mentioned on a couple reviews from historian guys on youtube and podcasts etc. i’m honestly not sure how much of it is intentional and how much of it is a result of weird pacing and writing decisions made due to budget cuts or episode numbers being reduced or whatever but it is something i thought was interesting:
basically the way the show treats its characters is kinda reflective of the way the air war itself was for the men involved: at first you’d would arrive on base and make close friends and develop rapport with each other a la buck bucky curt croz etc. but then the attrition sets in - someone like curt dies, more and more crews disappear, and on base it’s like they never existed. you get jaded. it becomes harder to get close to the new guys because you know they’re more than likely gonna be dead after the next mission, or you will be, and they’ll have to deal with losing you. this is kinda reflected in the scene after buck n bucky meet rosie. ‘when we go down they won’t remember us either’ etc.
the show kinda does this with the characters it introduces. u meet the main guys in the beginning and get sort of familiar with them, enough to be attached, and then curt fucking dies. if you aren’t well versed in the real history (like i wasn’t) then you have no damn idea who’s surviving to the end, and that makes you approach the remaining leads a little differently. when buck goes down you don’t really know if you’ll see him again. ‘they wouldn’t kill him it’s austin butler’ but they killed barry keoghan already soooo maybe they will? maybe bucky is the main lead now? it’s hard to know who’s safe to stay invested in.
and then obviously we follow bucky through his little romp through germany and then the stalag, (which is tense as fuck because WE DONT KNOW IF HES SAFE NARRATIVELY SPEAKING) but when it switches back to base there’s no mention of him or buck after the initial loss. like they never existed. we get rosie and croz, and a bunch of brand new crews who we mostly don’t recognize and who blend together so easily we have no idea if they survive or not because we don’t care and neither does the show. there is not space to care (diagetically if youre a pilot because you stop putting effort in to get acquainted w them just to lose someone again, and irl because the show stops putting effort in to distinguish them from each other).
guys we even sort of recognize or give a fuck about like nash die immediately. or (this one is kinda a stretch bc obviously their storyline getting forgotten about probably isn’t intentional but) with quinn and bailey when their plot gets dropped you can look at it like the guys on base who cared about them have also died or been shot down, so they’re no longer important to follow. and when buck returns to base in 9 who greets him? croz and rosie. almost nobody else who remembers him is still around. they either died or went to the stalag with him, or to other ones like it.
the show essentially ends up mirroring its characters: starting out with the promise of brotherhood and wartime camaraderie and friendship etc etc and then having it UTTERLY SHATTERED by the realities of the kind of war they are fighting.
it’s honestly fascinating to me. i’ve very rarely experienced a show with a supposedly ensemble cast at the start where the ensemble aspect kind of just gets destroyed and the characters are all killed or permanently split up partway through.
yeah that’s interesting and you have good points. I wasn’t really talking about their bonds with each other though, more so their individual character arcs and personality traits that were often shallow or not fleshed out entirely. I understand not having much of a supporting cast because these men were so expendable, but there were characters like macon and alex etc. who could’ve been given more to do. people have even argued (I don’t know if I entirely agree) that buck and bucky had shallow characterization as well. I think it’s good that you can find that kind of meaning in the show but I don’t think the show does that great of a job at hitting home these points and kind of just arrives there incidentally
then there’s the question of why even adapt this material if it’s not very well suited for a narrative story in the first place. and people can argue about that I’m not gonna touch it lol
but I see your point. I just don’t think the show was that intentional about the way it handled its character arcs. it feels more like things just falling by the wayside than intentional thematic choices
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SPEIRS & LIP from 1x07: the breaking point
Hell, it was you.
#speirs’ soft smile :) but he still has those crazy eyes#ronald speirs#carwood lipton#band of brothers
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I’m a hunter, not a fucking truck driver corralling gun platforms.
#AN AFFRONT TO MY WARRIOR SPIRIT#nate do you know your work husband is a fucking dork#nate fick#brad colbert#generation kill
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You’ve taken the country apart. You’re not putting it back together.
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Between MOTA running out of money and a movie like Argylle (which flop harder than a fish on land), Apple+ got budgeting/accountinf problem. For MOTA maybe it was the COVID situation, but the production wasn't handled well
yeah I think covid really fucked things
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After having watched all three it’s literally insane how well currahee works as an introduction and create that sense of a gelled group. When I first saw that it was a drab colored episode long flashback I was terrified but getting to know them before d-day and having a common enemy in Sobel worked like a charm, even if you don’t really know most of their names yet. The pacific basically just drops you in and no offense to Crosby, but his narration makes it sound like he’s the main character and he’s no dick winters
yeah agreed. to be fair the true story of easy company is just perfectly tailored by some higher power to be made into an hbo miniseries. like having a majority of the characters start off at toccoa together provides the glue for the entire show
poor crosby lmao. is anyone dick winters besides dick winters though. probably not
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