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whorefordaemon · 2 months
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Due to endless disagreements about who is the winner in the Dance of the Dragons, we forget about the true winner. I mean Daemon Targaryen.
The dude was married to two of the most beautiful women in Westeros, he had a badass dragon, he had an epic death and most importantly, all of his children except Visenya survived. Thus, in ASOIAF, a lot of Westeros are descendants of Daemon.
And it's funny that Daemon was originally created because GRRM couldn't find a suitable husband for Rhaenyra. Looks like George got a little carried away at some point.
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whorefordaemon · 11 months
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Louder! Please!
How badly Daemon was characterised in the show! Everyone is a sweet little angel victim and everything that goes wrong in their world is Daemon's fault.
Like, wtf?!
What's the worst thing about Show Daemon in your opinion.
Everything. I mean it. Every fucking thing about the show's idea of Daemon is just the worst. They didn't just villanize him, they dehumanized him. To the point, I'm not kidding, you could replace his character with a guard dog that barks and bites at show Rhaenyra's commands and nothing of the 'story' would change.
The simplest thing that makes a character human, their emotions, has been taken from him. He has no feelings, no understanding or acknowledgement of said feelings, no moment of growth or catharsis, no emotional response, nothing. How is that possible? How can a human, even an "evil man" not have any emotions?
Even the Fire and Blood novel allowed him to grieve. To feel. Acknowledged that he felt emotions. And it's a historical retelling!
Daemon's first child with Mysaria died. They were established as a proper couple, showed being happy and excited about their baby. Daemon gifts her something his family holds very dear, as a gesture that she is his family- The mother of his baby. And they lose it. "Prince Daemon spoke not one word of grief. But his heart was forever hardened towards his brother." No one can tell me he or Mysaria did anything to deserve that pain. They didn't even get to mourn as a couple.
I'll say, at one point, I had decided what would sell Matt Smith as Daemon Targaryen to me would be this scene. If he could bring those emotions across- The grief and rage, but all hidden. Not a sob or scream heard but the pain visible in his eyes.
If he could do that, I'll take it as a win. It might just be enough for me.
But by the time the show's "interpretation" of that scene came on, I wanted to hurl that pathetic man-child off that stupid bridge. That emotionless prick and wooden girl could never compare to the cunning and ambitious yet soft pair that was book Daemon and Mysaria.
Every scene after that. Can you think of ONE time, when Daemon's feelings or thoughts are talked about? ONE scene, where Daemon talks about how he feels and the person in front validates them, encourages him to open up, helps him navigate his emotions and helps him to accept them?
Just ONE time, he sits with someone and they hear him out? Be it his thoughts, his advice, his fears, his dreams, his ambitions, even his mistakes. Anything.
ONE chance to talk about himself and not be mocked or dismissed?
There isn't any.
Mysaria betrays him, Rhaenyra's every scene is either him listening to her complain and whine and placating her or her talking down to him, Laena is barely a real character, Viserys is made borderline abusive, his kids and him don't even know each other probably and every other minor character just hates him, for literally no reason.
Everyone of these people get to talk about their feelings at some point and Daemon listens to them complain because of course, every fucking thing is his fault. So he has to sit there and listen to them whine.
But God forbid he ever opens his mouth to say his piece (if he even gets any lines), they all immediately get defensive.
He only really has dialogues with Rhaenyra and Viserys. With other people he just, I don't know, leans and stares?
And Rhaenyra is just, always complaining. That's literally all they do. Every. Single. Scene. It's Rhaenyra complaining and Daemon just nodding and validating her. The only time he ever speaks out his thoughts is in ep10 and that episode was literally her going back on everything she told/promised Daemon and then placing the blame of war on him. No emotional growth or acknowledgement of his character in the last 20 years apparently. Nothing changed.
And Viserys "spent a lifetime defending" Targaryen is literally shown dismissing, threatening and straight up actually beating Daemon. So, I guess the less said about him the better.
Even the showrunners don't know what he's feeling or how his emotions work. Every interview is either "He's dark, he's evil and chaotic because he's Daemon." Or, my favorite one, where him feeling emotions means he's impotent! That's literally the only explanation we are told. "He is impotent." That's the summary of his feelings according to Ryan.
Daemon Targaryen's emotions who? I don't know them.
I liked Daemon Targaryen in the books because he was an interesting human character. Both his light and dark side playing off each other. His feelings and passions driving his actions.
But in the show, we don't even know what he wants or is feeling at any given time. At best, it's fans guessing and headcanoning or just relying on Matt's facial expressions.
The only thing keeping show Daemon afloat is the effort Matt put into it. But as good an actor as he is, he cannot save the disaster that is this show's writing. He cannot save Daemon. The showrunners are not capable of understanding a character as complex as Daemon Targaryen. Nor are they professional enough to deserve an actor of Matt's caliber. It's just a wasted character and wasted actor.
The only thing, I hope Matt was paid really well.
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whorefordaemon · 11 months
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Many characters in the show are getting destroyed for the sake of Show! Rhaenyra
Just about every single main character was ruined.
Alicent was an antagonist on par with Cersei and Tywin Lannister. Delusional yet smart, ambitious and capable, cruel and cold yet certain vulnerability in the way she loved her children and tragic in how her own choices led to her children's ruin.
Alicent was ambitious/power hungry but it didn't mean she didn't love her children and wish them all the happiness in the world.
Daemon Targaryen was THE most complex character grrm's ever written. Dashing and dangerous, selfish yet loving, ambitious yet loyal, cruel yet honest, flawed yet capable. He was a villain to all he perceived as an enemy yet loyal to those he cherished. He was spoiled because he was loved so much and he was desperate because he was afraid of losing the ones he loved and who loved him back. He was a hero because he would stop at nothing for those he viewed as family. He went from a spoiled prince to ambitious consort to loving husband and father and a broken man who just wanted everything to stop. To end.
Daemon was ambitious/cold but that didn't mean he wasn't happy and content to be a husband and father, spend his days with his family just watching them grow and enjoy the best of what the world had to offer. What he believed they deserved.
These two were two of the most vicious, cunning, loyal yet flawed individuals of he Dance. Both had plenty in the books to be "grey" except her fundamental goal was wrong (Maybe you can't begrudge Alicent for wanting to "protect" her sons but it does not erase the fact that she actively chose to gamble everything and lost.) while his was rooted in defense. (And Daemon Targaryen was terribly good at destroying what he perceived as a threat.)
And the show saw all of that and was like, "They were just sad, pathetic, useless and spineless puppy dogs in love with Badass Girlboss Rhaenyra."
Their entire existence was just to chase after scraps of love from the most unlikable character I've ever had the misfortune of seeing on screen. All in the name of "Strong Female Characters" bullshit.
What a waste.
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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Being a Daemon fan doesn't necessarily mean you have to be a Rhaenyra fan. I don't like Rhaenyra and I don't ship Daemyra.
Yes, Daemon is a very flawed individual but in almost every scene, Daemon is never able to actually hurt any of his family. He can't bring himself to ever hurt Viserys, he can't bring himself to hurt Rhaenyra, he can't bring himself to use Rhaenyra to force Viserys' hand, he can't bring himself to take Rhaenyra and take away her dream of being Queen. Infact, after being told again and again by Viserys how he's a 'plague' and 'evil' and 'power-hungry', Daemon just up and leaves.
For 10 years, he doesn't bother Viserys, Rhaenyra or the Hightowers. He keeps to himself, tries to build a life and family outside of Westeros.
But, it doesn't make anything better for the Targaryens back in Westeros does it? Viserys still can't hold his court or Kingdom together, Alicent is still miserable, Rhaenyra is still making every bad decision possible and the kids are just uncertain and neglected.
Daemon didn't cause any of that. He took his evil, head-ache inducing self and left. And Viserys and Rhaenyra still couldn't manage shit.
That tells you Viserys was a bad King because of his own stupidity, hypocrisy and blindness. Rhaenyra was a terrible Queen in waiting because she wasn't willing to ever be thankful or careful or work hard for anything. Alicent was a terrible mother because of her father's inherited paranoia and her own trauma. These people's misery wasn't Daemon's fault and the Green and Black stans need to stop using him to wash off these characters' faults.
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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if you take requests, could you write or elaborate on Daemon and his daughters first time?
"I was made for you. By you..."
Warnings: nsfw, incest, creampie, infidelity, Daemon Targaryen.
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Daemon watched as his little dragon entered his chambers. It was so late in the night and she appeared so visibly nervous.
He leaned on the bed frame as she came closer. Her big eyes wide and excited, while also carrying a hint of anxiety.
"My sweet Dragon. What brings you here? Nightmares?" He asked her in a soft voice, their eyes locked together.
She whimpered. "Kepa.." She whispered before all but running into his arms, settling comfortably on his lap and hiding her face in his chest.
He blinked. "What is it my baby? Tell me. You know you can tell your Kepa anything."
She looked up at him, their identical eyes meeting and he held her close to him as she bit her lip. Taking a deep breath she blurted out.
"I want you! I cannot wait any longer. I just cannot bear to see you with Muna any longer. I..I am better than her Kepa. I am the one for you. Same as you are the one for me! I'm done waiting." She alternated between common tongue and Valyrian due to her growing excitement. She barely paused for a breath.
Daemon smirked as he watched her babble on and on before grabbing her by the throat and bringing her face closer, capturing her lips with his own.
Once he had felt her soft plump lips, Daemon couldn no longer think straight.
She gasped before she pushed against him, kissing him back with just as much fervor.
Her eagerness made up for her inexperience.
They kissed as Daemon's hands grabbed and pulled her flush against him.
Then his hands began to move under her shift, wanting to feel more of her soft, young flesh.
Her hands meanwhile wrapped around his shoulders, nails digging in as she kept him as close to her as possible.
She moaned as he slipped his tongue inside, sucking on it as they tried to all but consume one another whole.
Eventually they had to pull away for air and Daemon watched as she lightly moaned still, eyes closed and chest rising as she tried to calm her breathing.
"You want more of this, my sweet Dragon?" He asked her, laughing when she nodded vigorously.
"Please Kepa! I want this so much! I was made for you. Take me. Make me yours please..." She was so bold and eager.
He loved it.
He pulled her in for another kiss, far shorter than she'd like but then Daemon flipped them over.
She moaned as she was pressed down onto the bed, her Kepa's large body hovering over her. They were so close, she could feel the heat radiating from him.
All of his hard muscles, brushing against her soft body as she burrowed deeper into his arms.
But he moved away from her in order to take a better look at her, eyes running over her entire body. His. All his.
He loved all of her. So perfectly flawless.
He ran a finger down her chin, her neck and tits before he fixed his eyes upon her legs.
He spread her legs, the flimsy shift riding up and exposing her thighs and cunt to the night air.
Daemon stared at his daughter's cunt, the wetness glistened on her little nub and the tiny patch of silver hair only made him harder. If that was even possible.
"Take it off...Let me see more of you.." He told her, watching in amusement as she scrambled to do his bidding.
She tugged on her shift, whining as it seemed to stick to her skin and refused to come off.
Daemon watched his daughter struggle for a bit before he decided to intervene. Grabbing the front of the shift, he pulled at it so harshly, he easily tore the dressing gown in half.
She yelped as she felt the fabric rip, her breasts bouncing from the movement and her pebbled nipples never felt so sensitive, almost begging to be kissed and fondled.
Kepa eyed them and she bit her lip, hoping he liked what he saw.
She had often watched her mother, Lady Laena, as she dressed. She had been so envious of her large, soft breasts that she had once heard her Kepa say was his favorite part of her Muna.
She hoped that from now on, the tits he preferred were hers.
She was confident she'd be his favorite.
Daemon again ran his hands over her soft, still growing body. This time she was fully nude. All laid out in front of him like she was a feast. And he was going to devour her.
First he ran a hand down her neck and then slowly trailed his fingers down her soft mounds.
Then he touched her flat belly which he imagined would soon be full. With his seed. With his child.
It was such a depraved thought, Daemon smirked. "If only a Westerosi were to know..."
He imagined the sanctimonious freaks might faint on the spot. He nearly chuckled at the thought.
But the best, most scandalous part of her that he touched was her cunt.
He ran his fingers over her fat lips that hid the small nub that he knew would drive his daughter insane.
She moaned as she felt his long fingers poke and probe at her bundle of nerves. An involuntary shiver ran down her spine.
She watched as he further spread her legs before settling in between them.
She got up on her elbows, hoping to see what he was doing.
"Kepa? What.." She could barely finish the thought before letting out a loud squeak as she felt his tongue take a long lick at her cunny.
"AH!" She instinctively tried to close her thighs at the overwhelming sensation but her Kepa held on, gripping her thighs so tightly she knew they'd be marked come morning.
She was delighted at the thought.
Daemon ran his tongue down her nether lips, tasting her. He chuckled at her whining, wondering how beautifully she'd fall apart once he got the best part- her little pearl.
He couldn't wait to find out.
So, he got to work. Using his tongue to open her up before he probed her sweet bundle of nerves.
Instantly she let out a loud squeal, jerking violently in his arms.
Daemon didn't stop,  removing one hand from her thighs and using it to part her lips as his tongue drove deeper into her cunt.
He smirked as he felt her grab at his hair, bringing him closer to her while her thighs shook, locking around his broad shoulders, her toes digging in on his back.
He moved closer, putting her nub in his mouth before sucking on it.
Daemon was taken aback when his daughter screamed, hips rising off the bed and jerking as she squirted on his tongue.
"OH! Fuck! Oh Gods! Uh, oh..." He moved his head to look at her as she threw her head back, moaning loudly and shaking.
She whined, her limbs feeling like liquid, beyond her control.
He smirked, loving the sight.
He rose up, sitting inbetween her spread open legs that now lay limply on the bed.
"You enjoyed that my dragon?"  He asked, laughing when she nodded vigorously.
"More. I want more. I want to please you Kepa! As you have pleasured me now.." She told him, eyes eager as she too got up, moving closer to him to kiss him, tasting herself on his tongue.
Daemon groaned into the kiss, his cock was painfully hard now. He had to have her. Now.
He again laid her on the bed, slowing running his fingers over her puffed up, pink lips, searching for her opening.
His fingers brushed her hole a few times before he slowly eased a finger in.
His little dragon immediately jerked up in pain, hands gripping his shoulders, nails digging in as she whimpered in pain.
Daemon soothed her. Placing a kiss on her forehead. "There, there my baby. It's nothing. I'm not even inside you yet. You want this don't you?" He asked.
She nodded, eyes tightly shut as she tried to ride out the initial discomfort.
Daemon began to ease the finger in and out of her. Letting her get used to the sensation, watching as the pain melted away into pleasure. Then he began to increase his movements, getting quicker and rougher before adding a second finger in.
"OH! Ahhh...OH! Fuck!" She felt her toes curl as she felt another finger move in and the tightness in her belly snapped.
Daemon watched, beyond excited as she came undone for a second time, again squirting all over his hand. Her cunt glistened with her wetness.
The next time, they would have a shared release.
She fell back on the bed, chest heaving as she tried to compose herself. She felt so hot and bothered. Wet.
Her excitement only grew as she looked at her Kepa.
The next one would be the one that she came here for.
The next time, she would lose herself on his cock.
She lightly moaned at the thought, smiling at him as she pulled him into an embrace.
They kissed, tongues meeting before she moved to kiss his cheeks, neck and shoulder.
Silently thanking him for everything he'd given her.
"Let's get to the best part, shall we?"
He slowly removed his breeches, watching his daughter as his hard, thick cock came into view.
His cock weeped for release, wetness dripping from the head which appears red and angry.
She bit her lip as the large, thick cock came into view. How will that ever fit?
Daemon chuckled, as if reading her thoughts. "Worry not. It will fit. And the pain will only last a minute or two."
She nodded, ever trustful of him.
It only made him more hungry for her.
He grabbed her thighs, pulling her on his lap and spreading her legs wider. 0
He kept a hard grip on her hips with one had while the other took his cock and rubbed the bulbous head near her slit.
Gathering her wetness on his cock before he began pushing it in.
He groaned as she whimpered, eyes shut tight as tears sprung forth.
"Kepa! It, it hurts..."
"It will hurt a bit little one.." Daemon gritted out, his jaw clenched as he applied more force to fully sheath himself inside her tight hole.
"AH!" The pain felt unbearable but she quickly bit her lip in an effort to stay quiet. She didn't want him to stop.
They would come together this night.
A little pain meant nothing. She was dragon after all.
"My love..." He whispered, not wanting to cause too much pain.
"Nuh..No. Don't stop Kepa. Please. Take me! Make me yours!" She groaned out. Hands reaching to wrap themselves around him in an effort to keep him closer to her. Inside of her.
Daemon smirked, pushing in deeper and deeper each second until he was fully sheathed inside her.
She let out a loud gasp as she felt his balls touch her thighs, almost choking on air as she tried to comprehend their closeness.
The intimacy they now shared.
Daemon pressed a soft kiss on her neck and halted for a moment in an effort to calm himself.
He couldn't immediately move. She needed to relax and get used to him first.
"Relax..."
He moved himself on his elbows, her hands moving to grip his arms and bring him in a clumsy embrace.
"I am go..good." The words were quiet as her voice nearly broke off. She had been moaning and whining for quite some time after all.
Daemon nodded as he slowly began to pull out. Her cunt immediately tightening, trying to pull him back inside.
He pulled until just the tip remained inside before he again plunged himself deep inside her.
This time it was so fast and abrupt, she couldn't hold her scream back.
His cock hit her innermost part, the sensation left her dizzy and incoherent as she arched into him.
She tried to open her eyes but her vision was blurry and she couldn't keep her head straight. Trashing from side to side in an attempt to calm down.
Only her Kepa's voice held her to the surface as the pleasure threatened to drowned her.
"I'm going to really fuck you now. Hard and rough. Fast. Are you alright with that my love?" He asked her, tucking away a strand of hair and caressing her cheek.
She shakily opened her eyes and nodded weakly. Her whole body jerked and shook. A thin layer of sweat covering them both.
With that, he began to pull out again. Before pushing in. Then out again. And in. And out. In. Out. In. Out. In. Out.
Each time thrusting deeper and harder, his hands going to grope at her body and pull her closer, roughly gripping her hips as he repeatedly pulled her to himself. On himself.
Making her scream as she creamed on his cock.
"AH! Ah! Fuck! Oh..uh, uh, uh, uh..AH! Please..." She wasn't sure what she was begging for but she could barely think straight in the head.
Her whole body was thrusted upwards onto the bed as her Kepa buried himself deeper and harder into her.
"Fuck! So tight and hot! Fuck!" Daemon growled into her skin, biting and kissing her tits, occasionally sucking on her nipples which nearly made her push him off as the sensations became too much. Too intense.
She felt as though her mind and body were about to break. So alien these feelings were.
Yet it felt so good.
"Fuck! Ahhh..Oh, my Gods...AH!" She felt her eyes roll to back of her head as she arched up and almost fell off the bed as she felt herself come undone for the third time.
Her cunt had never felt so wet and she could feel herself tightening further around her Kepa's cock.
That finally did it for him.
He nearly screamed as he came, hot seed rushing to fill her up to the brim, leaking out of her when there was no more space left inside her.
She hid her face in his broad shoulders, all but clinging to him as she felt her release last much longer due to the feel of his warm seed flooding her insides.
"Mother of Gods...Don't stop Kepa! I want all of it! All of your seed! Inside me! Please!" She shrieked when she felt him begin to move away.
Daemon laughed at her words before groaning as he felt his cock pumping her insides, painting it white.
He didn't think he had ever come so hard.
He stayed inside her, relishing in the feel of her tight, hot cunt as he felt his cock throb inside her one last time.
"Hmm. Do you think it might take root?" Daemon teased her, hissing when he felt her tighten around him.
She finally opened her eyes, bright and so happy. She felt so full and content. She nodded enthusiastically. "I hope so. I want to give you a son. Ten sons. And ten daughters. And more."
She wanted to have him all to herself. She wanted to give him everything he had ever wanted.
His love meant so much to her. She thinks she'd die if they were ever parted from each other. Not after coming so close. Becoming one.
Daemon smiled, soft and content as he leaned down to capture her lips into another kiss.
This is what he had wanted and needed. What was missing in his life.
Someone of his own. All his own.
He pitied all those who'd try to come in between them.
"I am hers. As she is mine..."
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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What would happen if Daemon got his daughter pregnant but she isn’t married and he’s stuck married to Rhaenyra?
He'd quickly get her married to some guy they can scare into being quiet.
He'd insist on his daughter being close to her home and family as she gives birth for the first time. He'd look after and care for her.
The minor Lord is so terrified of Daemon he just lets things happen and doesn't even dare try to touch his bride.
He and his daughter would wait so eagerly for their first child! First of many!
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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Anon asked: Imagine daemon and daughter fucking and getting caught by criston cole. How would they react?
The pious holier than thou guy would lose his fucking mind!
How dare they engage in such depravity?! How dare she break her marriage vows that she made in front of the Faith of the Seven?!
He'd not be able to stop himself, just barge in the room and startle the pair.
Daemon immediately pulls out of her and she screams out, going to hide behind her father and trying to right her dress.
Daemon stands in front of his daughter, ready to protect her from this raging fool. He's still hard, his blood pumping in his veins, making him all the more violent for being unable to finish inside his daughter.
"Ser Crispin, to what do we owe this visit?" He asked nonchalantly, as if he and his daughter hadn't been committing treason just now.
The man's hands were shaking, eyes wide open as he pointed at them. He seemed to be choking on his breath trying to even say what he and his daughter engaged in almost daily.
His daughter, precious little girl, came to stand beside him. Her eyes wide and yet she smirked, looking so much like him then. "Ser Criston, I didn't realize I was making so much noise. Did I disturb your slumber?" She asked him, her tone one of mockery.
Daemon laughed, loud and sharp before looking at his daughter. "Oh! Well then, off you go. We'll be quieter in the future. Promise?" His arms snaked around his daughter's waist, pulling her to himself.
His tunic was still open and his breeches still unlaced. The soft silk shift she had on did nothing to hide his hardness from her back.
She instinctively leaned back into him, soft moans escaping her as she felt his throbbing cock so close to her cunt. She wanted him so bad!
"You two! Have you no shame?! You..You are married! With children! Father have mercy on my soul! What have I witnessed?!" His incoherent babbling was getting on Daemon's nerves.
"Yes you saw us fucking. You saw my cock sheathed inside her warm cunt. Yes we Targaryens have queer customs. There, I said it for you." Daemon snapped, his hard on was getting painful and being unable to satiate himself on his daughter was making him angry.
"Now, I shouldn't have to explain why literally no one will believe you and you'd only end up getting your sad little head put upon a spike for even daring to accuse me or my daughter." Daemon told the trembling knight who he could tell was burning with rage. "So just calm down and go the way you came."
"You think I'll just sit back and let this.. this depravity continue?!" His eyes were wild and Daemon wondered if he was going to pass out.
"And what do you suppose you can do?" His daughter asked, pouting as she held his hand and slowly rubbed herself on him. "I'm not going to stop. My blood is too hot and only my Kepa can help me. You can watch if you want." She bit her lip to hide her smirk at the last words.
Daemon's grip on her waist tightened and he pulled her even closer, their bodies grinding together. He groaned. "Yes, perhaps he could watch. Ser Crispin?" He looked over at the knight who had gone stiff.
He let out short puffs of breath as he tried to contain his horror. This kind of sin will not go unpunished! He won't let it! He wouldn't let such sinners continue to live and plague the world!
His hand was reaching for his sword as Daemon began to reach for Darksister left by the side of the bed, pushing his daughter behind him again.
His eyes no longer danced with amusement but cold, ruthless anger. Did this cunt from no where think he could draw blade upon his daughter?
"The last time we fought, you attacked me from the back. I never repeat my mistakes." Daemon warned but before things could get worse, his daughter stepped closer to him, grabbing his hand and pulling him to herself.
"No! You will not waste your blood on this mongrel! You were here to please me and that's what we'll do now." She sounded so much like a stubborn toddler sometimes.
She then turned to the knight. "And you! Begone! Any more of your continued presence and I'll scream. I call the guards and nobles and shout about how you tried to force yourself onto me." Her eyes were cold, so much like his. No shame. Nor remorse could be found.
"Ah! How dare some lowly peasant think he'd get away with touching royalty? A dragon no less?" Daemon smirked, knowing it was about Rhaenyra as well as his daughter.
"Away with you, now!" Daemon moved, grabbing him by the arm and throwing him out of his daughter's quarters.
Crispin fell on the floor, his white cloak dirtied and eyes burning with fury. But at this moment, without his precious Queen to save him, he was helpless.
He glared. Using his eyes to convey his hatred for the vile, depraved man. For his spoiled cunt of a daughter.
Daemon barely even looked at him as he went back into his daughters chambers, shutting the door behind him. On Criston's face.
Soon, soft moans and groans were heard from inside the chambers.
They hadn't even waited to make sure he left. They didn't even attempt to be quiet!
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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Curious Question: What are some of the dumbest defenses you've heard Green stans say?
OH! There's been plenty but I'll list my favorites and the questions I have for them.
"Alicent wasted her youth on pumping out children. She deserves to see her son become king." Well, Aemma 'wasted' her youth too, she even died for it. Doesn't she deserve to see her blood on the Throne? Her only living child?
"Alicent only started a war to protect her children." Well Rhaenyra started a war after her birthright was stolen and her son was violently murdered. Doesn't she deserve to extract justice?
"Daemon would've killed his nephews. Greens were right to fear him and start a war." Well, the 'peace' deal included giving his sons as hostages. He feared his sons' deaths and started a war to protect them. Justified right?
"Viserys was a neglectful parent. The least his sons deserve is the Throne." And that's Daemon and Rhaenyra's fault how? Why should she give up her inheritance for them to feel better about daddy not loving them?
"Aemond accidentally killed Luke. It's a terrible mistake but we should understand him, he was bullied." Yes, and Luke accidentally took Aemond's eye after being called a bastard and seeing Aemond threaten to murder his brother. He deserves to be forgiven too right?
"Rhaenyra had bastards, she's unfit to rule." Yes, because Aegon was such a pious man who never looked at another woman aside from his wife right? And we'd totally have accepted her if she admitted her mistake and instead offered to let her trueborn sons Aegon and Viserys rule after her right? Like, we'd absolutely not judge her ruling capabilities by her having sex outside of marriage the way we don't judge kings right?
"Otto was right, Daemon was Maegor come again." Cue Aemond murdering his nephew, burning Riverlands and ending an ancient House for no reason. Cue Aegon usurping the King's heir. Cue Daeron burning a village and letting his men rape and loot villages. Surely Daemon can be excused for one child murder? No?
"Rhaenyra was a spoiled brat who couldn't rule." Cue Rhaenyra ruling Dragonstone for 17 years successfully and her allies fighting for her even after her death. Cue Aegon's allies poisoning him cause they were done with his shit. Well, at least Rhaenyra had the excuse of being usurped, her treasury looted and trauma of losing her kids as an excuse. Who does Aegon have to blame?
"Both sides are equally bad." Cue Alicent's entire bloodline ending up in flames, forgotten and forever hated. Cue Daemon and Rhaenyra Targaryen's sons and daughters ruling everything.
"Greens are the most complex characters." Well, fuck this then. 'Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both. In his day there was not a man so admired, so beloved, and so reviled in all Westeros. He was made of light and darkness in equal parts. To some he was a hero, to others the blackest of villains.' Daemon was just the root of all evil right?
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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How would Rhaenyra feel if daughter!reader was Rhea’s kid? Or even worse, her own daughter?
Daemon would never have kids with Rhea. Mostly because she was canonically infertile and secondly, he always wanted a Valyrian bride and pure valyrian children. So that would have never happened.
Now, Rhaenyra! Well, this one is complicated. I mean all are but this one especially. Rhaenyra feels so entitled to Daemon, she would not back off like Laena. She'd probably try to immediately have her daughter married and sent away from Dragonstone. She can't do much to Daemon cause she needs him too much so they'd be in this weird push/pull game where both use their power to threaten each other to either back off or never repeat their behaviour. She won't win against Daemon.
And considering how much her daughter is like her father, I can see her trying to threaten/attack Rhaenyra unless she backs off. Rhaenyra can't exactly kill her daughter so she'd have to yield eventually.
So she'd probably be the one to lose and just have to bite her tongue and pretend like things are completely fine and Daemon is still hers.
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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i love your daemon daughter smut!!
Thank you so much❤ me too Haha!
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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requesting daemon and daughter where they get secretly get married behind Rhaenya’s back and just fuck all night long
They probably did secretly marry each other at some point, way back in Pentos probably.
Daemon's daughter wants her dream Valyrian wedding and of course Daemon cannot resist her. He just plans everything to the last detail, everything has to be perfect for his perfect princess.
Laena knew her marriage was over once her daughter learned the word "possessive" and Rhaenyra was just a path to power. No way she could compare to his daughter. Daemon doesn't see her as a wife, more so the means to an end.
His daughter knows she's his one true Valyrian bride. She loves it
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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how did Daemon and his daughter’s relationship start? you’ve mentioned how she’s always loved him, but how did it start with Daemon, and how did it develop?
Well, I imagine it started very platonic and Daemon just adoring his babygirl and pampering her to no end. He'd buy her gifts, take her on dragon rides, dance with her at feasts etc.
His daughter would slowly grow to see these gestures as the standard of romance/love for herself and what she wants in a man. And as she learns, hardly any man could match her father, Daemon motherfucking Targaryen.
So, she sets her eyes on him.
She's bold and knows and chases what she wants. No shame or hesitation.
So when she begins signaling her romantic interest, Daemon would be intrigued but not make any move cause he wants her to independently make her own choices. And when she visits him naked one night, begging him to make her his, he doesn't refuse.
In the end, the love has always been there, just the kind of love has changed..
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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I'm more than obsessed with fucking Daemon. I genuinely love his character so much and as a survivor of IPV, can I just say thank you for writing this!
do you think canon!rhaenyra would have let daemon abuse her (choke her)?
Canon Daemon would've never hurt Rhaenyra. Heck, the man doesn't have a history of physically abusing any woman ever!
Listen, you don't just become abusive or even believe raising your hand on your partner is acceptable in one sudden day. There has to be history. And Daemon doesn't have any.
Not even with the whores he was around in his youth or Mysaria (their relationship was toxic but not abusive). Again, if Otto learned reports of Daemon drinking, gambling and whoring from Fleabottom, why doesn't he ever make any reports of Daemon being cruel or abusive to the women there? I'm sure that would've made a fantastic report to tell Viserys.
Even with the one woman he hated above all, Rhea Royce. Every report says Daemon avoided her. Left whenever he felt overwhelmed by his emotions (he was in Vale when Mysaria miscarried and weeks later Viserys announced he was marrying Alicent). NEVER is one report of him raising a hand on a woman.
So what does that tell you about Daemon and his "abusive" nature?
Laena and Rhaenyra weren't sad, pathetic whiny babies. They were dragon-riding, smart, sweet and loving women who chose Daemon and never had any complaints against him. Even in times of war, Daemon is never seen publicly disagreeing with her and her confidence and faith in him tells me he wasn't scaring her privately either.
He had no history of abuse and it had no reason to start when he was 49 years old all of a sudden.
So, your question is kinda invalid cause Daemon simply wasn't abusive and Rhaenyra wasn't an indecisive pathetic hypocrite that got on everyone's last nerve.
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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I imagine the wives that Daemon has had feeling jealous of his firstborn and even scolding Daemon that he has a very obvious preference for his firstborn leaving his other children aside. IMAGINE LAENA OR RHAENYRA TELLING DAEMON THAT HE CONSENTS HER TOO MUCH (completely ignoring the love/sexual relationship they hide).
I headcanon Laena as the mother to his favorite daughter. She was born in their first year of marriage after which Laena and Daemon preferred to spend most of their married life travelling, flying and exploring like they were said to in canon. He LOVED his babygirl (platonically) and was her Prince Charming. Pampering her and spoiling her rotten. She grew up idolizing him and wanting all of his time and attention to herself. Daddy issues who?
Then as she grew, she got more and more resentful of Laena for having her Kepa's love (in that way) and she likely, at least once masturbated to the sounds of Daemon and Laena having sex.
Then she hit puberty and it was all downhill from there.
Laena was more concerned than anything for her daughter. Rhaenyra was completely unaware until *that* night. She probably liked that Daemon loved his eldest daughter so much since it was something she wanted for herself growing up. After *that* night though, it was a mess...
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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pls, i couldn’t help but imagine Baela and Rhaena watching their father and sister dance, and gossiping, saying that they were gonna mind their own business, yet watching like it was a reality show 😭
Oh! Baela and Rhaena definitely know what's up. They grew up watching those two pretend (and fail) to seem inconspicuous. Some days, they get scared thinking they might be their sister's firstborn kiddies with Daemon. I mean, she does act overly motherly with them. And they are 15-16 years younger than her. So...
Laena always hated how her daughter just preferred her Kepa but never in her worst nightmares did she expect to come across her recently teenaged daughter trying to sneak into Daemon's bed chambers naked one night. She tried absolutely everything she could to bring sense into her daughter but to no avail.
Her daughter had threatened to kill herself unless Laena surrendered Daemon to her and only her. Poor woman had no choice but to keep shut and let things escalate. Her daughter could really do it. She was just as crazy as her father.
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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okay but like father daughter incest is incredibly taboo and shocking even for targaryen standards (which is why its so hot ;)) so maybe something with dad daemon x daughter reader where they get caught! with breeding kink and cum play, and reader being a complete bimbo whore for her actual daddy
Yea, it's incredibly taboo. That's probably why Daemon and his daughter like it so much.
That man is all about blood purity and family. His daughter gives him both. There's no one of more pure Valyrian blood than his children and him developing sexual interest with a family member is something so natural and so Daemon.
His daughter is exactly like him. She shares his temper, his pride and his desire to keep all aspects of their culture alive. He raised her in his image and it makes sense she'd be just as fixated on his values and on him.
Daemon Targaryen having a breeding kink is legit canon. And his daughter is absolutely determined to be the one to give him his desired number of kids. No one else will have that close connection with him.
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whorefordaemon · 1 year
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Okay you have to write another smutt part with Daemon and his daughter l. Ugh it's sood!!! 🤰🥰
I do have some more of them planned out! I'm just as excited as you!
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