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thedeathwitchescats · 3 months
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Do you have any ideas/headcannons about Renee/Andrew/Neil ?
This is the best question anyone has ever asked me because absolutely yes I do. Ill keep this to [mostly] canon compliant ones for simplicity. Apologies in advance
Renee and Andrew started dating relatively soon after he went to Palmetto and told no one about it. For Renee it was mostly to avoid judgement and for Andrew it was because he didnt care about other peoples opinions. Wymack, Abby and Bee know though. Bee because Andrew told her, Abby because Renee told her and Wymack because Wymack knows everything
I always still pictured Andrew as being biromantic but still not sexually attracted to women, and Renee was saving herself for marriage ((after she was born again obviously))
When Neil appeared Andrew was immediately infatuated, but still very suspiscious, and Renee was also warry, the two of them had many deep discussions on the roof about whether they could trust him or not
((Imagine a world where Renee sometimes went with the monsters to Colombia, and also Andrew hadnt stopped Nikky from making advances on Neil for this one to make sense)) Renee was there for Neils first night at Columbia and she was the one who told Andrew that Nikky kissed Neil unconsensually ((no Nikky slander in this post, i am well aware my opinions of this man are niche)) and it was after this that Andrew made a conscious effort to get Nikky to stop making Neil uncomfy
Renee was the first person that Andrew let hug him after he left the Spear household, it was during his first year midterms, he was stressed and riddled with medicated anxiety. Renee asked if she could give him a hug because it helps her to calm down and after that Andrew started to breathe easier and decided that, when asked and with granted permission ofc, he kind of liked hugs
Andrew figures out that he is head over heels for Neil pretty early on and has a conversation with Renee about it. She tells him that she also seems to have feelings for Neil and they decide that they are going to slowly approach him and try to figure him out. Cut to the convo at the store where Renee is getting Andrew a bday gift and Neil is there, Renee tells Neil some details of their situation ((being that Andrew is gay but that they are still together because they have a very deep bond and sex isnt important to either of them)) And Neil is confused but understands and supports. Renee tells Andrew that she genuinely can not figure out what is up with Neil and Andrew decides to leave it alone ((in Andrew fashion which equates to calling Neil family, giving him a key and calling it home, letting Neil drive his car, putting Neil on his insurance for his new car, giving Neil an entire new wardrobe- you know, normal shit))
Also in this world Renee was the one who has Andrews other key, not Nikky
Renee and Neil actually start formulating a relationship while Andrew is in easthaven (("you took his car and now your taking his girl" or whatever it was specifically that Nikky said i cant remember atm)) And when Neil goes to the nest she knows as well as Kevin. She tries to stop him but after he tells her it is to protect Andrew she nods solemnly and tells him to take hers/andrews knives to keep himself safe
When Neil gets out Renee picks him up from Wymacks apartment and is angry and upset and that is when she kisses him, gently as to not hurt him buy fierce enough to get her point across. She breaks down and tells him everything and says that she never should have let him go. Neil is stunned and doesnt know how to react. This is when the upperclassmen ((who were all scattered around because theyre in Renees dorm room)) find out about Andrew and Renee
When Andrew comes back and is very obviously traumatized Neil decides not to push the issue and to let Andrew be the one to approach him
Renee starts going to Columbia with them weekly now that their secret is out. Her and Neil dance while Andrew watches protectively. Renee is still a very traumatized individual but she has softer edges about pda and physical touch. Her and Neil kiss in the crowd and Andrew realizes he is done for
"Doesnt mean i wouldnt blow you" happens in front of Renee instead of Kevin and she is proud ((if not a tiny bit shocked))
Andrew and Neils first kiss on the rooftop is short and Andrew talks to Renee who assures him that Neil would have said something if he was hurt and Andrew, who didnt know he was capable of regret, finds himself regretting it all
Neil and Andrew start working on communicating, because all good relationships have communication even the "not relationships"
Right up until Neil starts getting spooky count downs and ominous bloody messages from papa dearest, then communication is a little limited
Andrew and Renee know that there is something going on with Neil and are worried but he wont say anything about it and is acting normal, if not happier
When Baltimore happens he tells Andrew "thank you, you were amazing" and he tells Renee "get to the bus safe" before he disappears into the crowd ominously
Renee didnt stop Andrew from choking the life out of Kevin and called Jean in a blind panic to see if he knew anything
Kevin started speaking and she reasoned that Jean didnt know anything
Renee was just as angry as Andrew and all but told him to kill Kevin before she reigned herself in, clutching her cross and praying that her sweet, dumbass redhead would get home safe
Instead of wymack ((mostly because I never saw the physics of that one)) it was Renee who was handcuffed to Andrew and neither of them slowed down the second they realized where Neil was
Neil fell into Renees chest while Andrew checked his injuries and Renee about lost her damn mind when Allison mentioned the bet but kept her calm because Neil was there and he was safe
The FBI relented and let the two of them tag along with Neil and when he signed his name, "Neil Josten" he took a deep breath and allowed Nathaneil to die peacefully in his mind, because Neil was free in a way Nathaneil never could be
Renee understood that look, Natalie had to do the same, tucked away in a corner and put to rest in a mental grave. They shared a look of deep understanding
After everything is said and done its still andrew and neil and Renee and Andrew and neil and Renee and all three of them combined and their special and happy and they keep each other sane
During the girls last year there is endless teasing and quips made about the three of them but they couldnt care less because its their last year and they are going to make the most of it
Andrew and Aaron have it out and both of them decide to chose their "nothings" over each other, and because of this Renee takes Aarons place in the monsters
Andrew and Aaron start building their relationship from the ground up, and its hard, but he has both his *everythings* there to keep him sane
Andrew and Renee change their last names to "josten" because they fought so hard for that name and technically three people cant get married
Speaking of marriage, Dan and Matt get married in Dans last year and Renee and Allison are bridesmaids, Neil and Andrew are groomsmen. The three of them dance and congratulate the happy couple
They win championships that year and, mostly just to fuck with the crowd, Neil and Renee each kiss Andrews cheek right before they walk off court. Its fun and silly and they celebrate afterwards and care so deeply for each other
When Renee leaves it hits hard, she calls and texts as much as she can but its hard. Neil loses a little bit of his spark and Andrew cant help but miss their other third
Neil and Andrew start sparing and essentially dont leave each others side
Matt is also having a time of it with the girls being gone, and during this year its that Matt moves into Andrew and Neils dorm officially
Kevin transfers to the Trojans with Jean and Jeremy and is happier there, and theyre all happy for him
During Andrews last year Neil all but loses his mind
Renee officially retires from exy that year and moves back to Palmetto state to help with the transition because she knows its hitting both of them pretty hard
Andrew is anxious and cant decide whether he wants to keep playing exy, or go straight into law
Neil doesnt know what he is going to do for a year without either of them and is constantly in a state of panic
Both Andrew and Renee try their hardest to keep the rabbit sane because they know how scary the thought of being alone is and Neil will absolutely never be alone
When Andrew graduates Renee and Neil make one of those obnoxious signs and all the foxes show up for support and its bittersweet but mostly amazing
They also win championships that year again, Andrew locked the goal down for the entire game and wymack was so proud, even though he only had one of his kids left in the coup ((I would say nest but considering the fandom...))
Neils fifth year is hard
Andrew decided to retire his exy racket and go straight into law, finally selling the Columbia house and getting a better place about an hour outside Palmetto
Renee joins the peace corps ((to be honest I only kind of know what they do so bear with me apologies)) and is overseas for a little over two years
Neil goes home to Andrew every weekend ((their partying days behind them and their movie marathon days ahead)) and both of them call Renee every day
When Neil graduates Renee gets leave for a weekend and flys in to celebrate with them
Its one of the best weekends they had ever had
When Renee retires ((from what I can tell its usually two years of required service but correct me if Im wrong)) the three of them move in together in their little home outside Palmetto and are happy
Neil plays professionally for about 10 years, Renee starts teaching, Andrew is a lawyer
Its perfect
Andrew and Renee still spar, and Neil still runs every morning
Renee makes a pot of coffee before he gets back and they never run out of sugar despite andrews best attempts
Renee teaches Neil how to make cookies because Andrew burns every batch he touches almost
They watch all the foxes on TV and rep Allisons athlesiure brand every where they go essentially
The foxes have Thanksgiving all together at their house every year because as Wymack gets older flying is bad for his heart
Its the off season of the year Neil finally retired ((now a math professor)) that they announce to their family that Renee is pregnant
Andrew is terrified he is going to be a bad father, Neil doesnt know where to start and Renee has faith that it is all going to be okay
They never check to see whos kid it is biologically ((though the odds are its probably neils)) because it doesnt matter
Their prescious twins are brought into the world with three parents, four grandparents and more aunts and uncles than any one kid can count
Renee was often sick while she was pregnant and neil researched every method to help with nausea possible
He got Kevin ((who also eventually retired from exy and because a sports dietitian)) to help him find recipes that she could actually eat
Andrew was very protective while she was carrying and if she even so much as looked at a door handle it became a race between him and neil
Her water broke while her and Neil were coming home from a long day of teaching, Andrew was still at the office
Neil took on andrews approach to driving during their trip to the hospital and held her hand every step of the way
Andrew got there just in the nick of time, pressing a kiss to her forehead and taking her other hand, making eye contact with neil as she pushed out the first of the twins
It was a short labor and each of the boys held a baby, foreheads touching and ankles crossed, as Renee took a much needed nap
All of the foxes flew/drove in to see the babies and the three of them
It was a special time
It was surprisingly Neil who taught their kids how to bake cookies, the same recipie that Renee taught him
Andrew and neil get breakfast tacos every Saturday morning at their favorite little food truck while Renee and the kids sleep
Neil goes to church with Renee and their kids every Sunday, while Andrew works
He can never fully heal from his religious trauma, but he knows its important to Renee and he knows that Neil has found a comfort in God as well ((i can never decide if I headcannon Neil as Christian or atheist but today its christian))
A few months before the twins were born Andrew stopped wearing his armbands all together, the knives having long since made their disappearance
And he, in an age appropriate way ofc, teaches their kids what his scars were and reminds them to talk to someone and never feel like their only resort is to hurt themselves
They love each other so dearly and they love their kids so much and its special and happy and they love their lives
When the three of them die their cremated together and the twins each take a smaller urn for their respective mantles to hold
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armorabs · 11 months
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do you think it's transgender of karen to identify as female despite being a computer?
we arbitrarily assign genders to computers and robots all of the time in real life, so the idea that a sapient one could have a gender at all isnt inherently transgender imho - because if we can assign a gender to the computer, the computer may not necessarily disagree with what they were assigned. i only find it particularly transgender if the computer wasn't specifically assigned a gender and comes to identify with one anyways, or if it was assigned a gender and found themselves disagreeing with the assignment. or more metaphorical contexts, but metaphors can get complicated so i won't go into that.
HOWEVER, in the case of KAREN, specifically? i DO think of her as a trans woman, yes.
the series has had multiple contradictory origins for karen, whether it be in when she was made or how she came into plankton's life, in various different episodes. so how canon-compliant the idea is may be debatable and depends entirely on how you choose to interpret her character and her origins; whether she was completely programmed by plankton himself, or she was a product that plankton bought.
i've made two prior posts about this which may be of interest regarding this topic, but;
her shell is known to be and recognized as a wifeomatic - a brand name line of computers designed to be wives. if she was bought as a wifeomatic, that may imply she would be cis by computer standards if accepted as her origin - however in friend or foe she came into plankton's life as a security system plankton bought as a child for his clubhouse, and in kamp koral she came into his life as a calculator he bought as a young adult to assist him in his work, both of which suggest she didn't begin her life as a wifeomatic but rather became one. which would be the computer equivalent of transitioning in that context. so. depends entirely on your preference in her origins and interpretation of those origins.
myself, i find myself often contradicting myself in my interpretation and preference for her origins; however, i am otherwise consistent in my interpretation of karen being a transgender woman :P
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shigayokagayama · 1 year
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it could also do well to ask how long/when schools in japan generally start and end their school years. i believe high school exams start on a certain month as well
from what i can tell from cursory googling the school year begins in april (which i do have marked on the calendar as the earliest date it could have started), they go on summer break from late july to late august, winter break is late december to early january, and spring break is late march to early april (when the new year starts).
there was a piece of evidence i nearly added relating to summer break before deciding to strike it since it's from a. from an omake b. cannot have happened with the timeline we have in the series. there's an omake where the body improvement club comes back from summer break and their club has to get an average score of 60% on an exam to avoid getting disbanded (sagawa carries the entire group and they narrowly get a 61%). i didnt include this because mob isnt part of the group and his score isnt counted despite the fact that the body improvement club had just formed when mob joined it. is it possible that they formed the club, went on summer break, is instantly threatened with being disbanded despite just forming, took their exams, then got their room + mob? yes. is it more likely that this omake was just set up for a gag and isnt really canon compliant. also yes.
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The Lighthouse (Crash on my Docks)
by theoogieboogieman
Leave it to Stede Bonnet to row across the ocean in the smallest dinghy that England could provide. It could barely carry his weight, especially with the provisions and rope and other necessities he had aboard. He had never realized how lucky he was to have had The Revenge for his entire pirating career up to that point, until he’d had to stand up on a very unstable boat in the middle of God knows where in the ocean and take a leak in the water. Bloody horrible.
Words: 8207, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English
Fandoms: Our Flag Means Death (TV)
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Categories: M/M, Other
Characters: Blackbeard | Edward Teach, Stede Bonnet, Oluwande Boodhari, Jim Jimenez, Black Pete (Our Flag Means Death), Lucius Spriggs, Wee John Feeney, Roach (Our Flag Means Death), Buttons (Our Flag Means Death), The Swede (Our Flag Means Death), Frenchie (Our Flag Means Death), Fang (Our Flag Means Death), Ivan (Our Flag Means Death), Israel Hands
Relationships: Blackbeard | Edward Teach/Stede Bonnet, Oluwande Boodhari/Jim Jimenez, Black Pete/Lucius Spriggs
Additional Tags: I love izzy i swear, mans gotta go, Fix-It, Not Beta Read, Lucius Spriggs Lives, unrealistic boat terminology, Kidnapping, i guess, Hurt/Comfort, Emotional Hurt/Comfort, Angst, Fluff, fuck taika theyre happy and healthy, apparently there's something called a poop deck and honestly fair, Forehead Kisses, Theyre very soft, sort of historically accurate, Hurt Blackbeard | Edward Teach, Developing Relationship, Lucius Spriggs Deserves a Raise, Sleepy Cuddles, i was gonna write smut but like i said, literally forgot this existed, could write a part two if yall wanted im down for that, also fun fact sunglasses were invented in the 12th century and yes i did look that up for this fic, Soft Stede Bonnet, Slow Burn, but its like 8000 words, if anything is unrealiztic no it isnt shut up, Again, I love Izzy Hands, ed cannot be happy with him around, gentle abandonment, Canon Compliant, Post-Canon, uh yeah ty, Exeunt
source https://archiveofourown.org/works/40705008
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legos-lass · 4 years
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shark puppy songs that were written but never made it onto their albums
im a HUGE fan of this au and the plethora of content for it so i wanted to contribute
@sharkpuppyofficial
big brother (just one time) - written by bill, one of the first songs he wrote. similar to “everything’s alright” performed by laura shigahara. the process of writing it was very therapeutic, but when they tried to actually perform it, everyone got too emotional. served as a precursor to “georgie”
my father killed jesus (not me) - written by stan around the time of kill maine maine kills, very…ambitious. he wanted to incorporate a lyre in place of a guitar. similar vibe as “pas de cheval” by panic! at the disco. to make matters worse, he incorporated hebrew lyrics for the others to sing in the background but he didnt think their pronunciation was good enough no matter how much he made them practice. in the end it was just a little too out of place considering this was only their second album, but it still holds a special place in stan’s heart.
rocket pop - written by richie, think “el scorcho” by weezer. he wrote it while eddie was away for two weeks and he was feeling lonely. he intended to write a love song but it ended up just being about how hot eddie is. in the end it was just Too Horny, even for shark puppy.
battery acid - written by eddie, very heavily queen inspired. a super catchy and well-crafted anthemic ballad, but eddie neglected to consider the fact that their own vocal ranges were not as impressive as those of freddie mercury and roger taylor, so they were unfortunately physically unable to perform it
but the yo-yo master did not answer - written by bev, just a short and fun surf punk song recounting bev and richies first meeting and expressing how grateful she is for him. she wrote it really quickly a few days before richies birthday. because of intense weather, they had to reschedule one of their shows, and the only other date that worked for the venue was richies birthday. she taught it to the others and they performed it for him at the show as a surprise. it was a special moment, so they havent performed it since
january embers - written by ben. he got really excited by the positive response to “winter fire” and ended up writing a song that was…nearly identical, trying to get the same response. no matter how much his friends reassure him of his worth, he still subconsciously seeks their approval whenever he can get it. they end up not using the song because it is so similar to their other song, but it leads to him and bev working together on more songs as bev tries to help him realize his other song writing strengths
baby shark - arranged by mike. he has always preferred supporting his friends from behind he scenes, so he tends to write the music for their songs rather than lyrics. he did however arrange a fancy rendition of the baby shark song complete with a rockin bass solo. they use it as a warm up song before rehearsals
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solange-lol · 4 years
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hiii in celebration of AUctober, what are some of your fav solangelo AUs?
Anonymous said to solange-lol:
Hi! Kinda a random question: do you have any favorite riordanverse fanfics that you’d suggest reading? I’m looking for ones to read, but I’ve been having trouble finding new ones! Thanks!
rec list #1 | rec list #2
all recs can be found under the tag ‘lizs solangelo fic recs’ on my blog!
technically its past auctober now, but better late then never to drop my third solangelo rec list!! especially considering the state of the world rn ... lets just say its a celebration of me actually participating in sw for the first time in a while
rec under cut as always!! its not all aus but its the count that thots
Find Another Place to Stay by @unwieldyink
personally i think breakup fics are incredibly underrated, and i also think annie is incredibly underrated, so enjoy ur little cry if you read this one (tw // violence in this one)
Hershey’s kiss by @unwieldyink
we love a godswap!! it’s actually been a while since ive read this one and i reread this while making this rec list and can i just say that zeus!nico and hermes!will are both such valid concepts and this just has a rly good dynamic to it
Actors by @buoyantsaturn
i could talk about this fic for hours but lets just say ao3 has told me ive visted this fic 40 times. im not kidding. fake dating is just a godtier trope
start of something new by jinniefic
if you know me, you know that i fricken LOVE high school musical, and this is literally just the start of the first movie but solangelo and honestly a little more iconic please read even if ur not a hsm fan
paper/plastic by @rosyredlipstick
the fact that this is from 2018 and took this long to get into my rec list is tragic because i think about this fic a lot... a lot. mortal au. very chill, strangers to lovers, very good vibes, will be rereading soon (everything rosy writes is amazing we already knew this)
10:37pm by @buoyantsaturn
surprise another cj fic! fun fact she debated with us for a good half hour about what to title this fic so go read it so you can tell her you like the name (and the fic itself... its a very good fic) (tw // alchohol and drug use for this one)
Sunflower by ChiseHatori
3 days in the infirmary is probably the easiest trope u can find in the solangelo tag but i have to say this one really made me soft just bc it feels a lot more in character than some of the others ive read, and it basically picks up right where they ended in the books
Will You, or Will You Not? by @thebluesideofmyworld
marriage fics... also very soft. just boys bein boys. dual engagements. mortal au. all that good stuff vv soft i loved it
let your heart win by @justanothervampiregirl
this one is short but its also probably one of the most in character fics ive ever read and i really like this style of writing mixed with canon compliance so :)
The Magic of Naomi Solace by Sweetymomo
naomi solace, underratted legend. i aspire to have her relationship with will. lots of familial background if you like that!! and its set at a bnb!!
forget all the shooting stars and silver moons by itotallyreadthatbook
when i saw this in the tag i was SO excited bc we love high school aus here and it was!! very good indeed!! this trope is one ive never seen before and i recommend 10/10 good banter
They won’t always live by Phantomxlegend
will overworking himself and coping with loss always makes me :(( so if ur okay with some will angst then buckle up
“I am fully capable of kicking your ass” by @unwieldyink
i remember i saw the email notification for this one and immediately was like yup absolutely im in and it 100% lives up to its title we love capture the flag solangelo
the night we met by peachyytomlinson
a lil ooc but also very angsty and did make me emotional when i read this late at night. i think i wrote something similar a while back but i just aaaaa will angst man
“look how hard i can cry FWSHHH”  by @buoyantsaturn
call me biased bc i like to claim that i originated the idea of demeter!will and cj dedicated this fic to me but like BRO its so soft and i love it here nico leave the plants along challenge failed
femboy hooters, or the time percy jackson failed to keep a secret by luciethebean
its all fun and games until the fic turns out to genuinely be really good. like, yes the title is exactly what you think it is but it doesnt matter bc its so fricken well written im^@*#&(*)($_$#&^@$(@*)* yeah
Of Ties and Significant Annoyances by seokjinvilla (@thechampagnecocainegasoline)
we dont support jkr in this household but what we do support is this bc this plot is genius and i love it
everything’s going swimmingly by tsunamiroll (@catboy-ethan)
fun fact i posed the idea of a sports/team prompt to the sw mod crew literally just so someone would pull through and write a swim au and ethan DID without even knowing. i love them and their writing style is so !!!! please read it
when you smile (the whole world stops) by tsunamiroll (@catboy-ethan)
another ethan fic!! this is the perfect fic for a rough day where u just want some cuddles bc thats literally the plot of the fic. i love this one with my entire heart its very fluffy 10/10 do reccomend
pumpkin spice (i hate it, it's not nice) (ok maybe it's a little nice) by tsunamiroll (@catboy-ethan)
ethan fic part 3!! bc i binge read these all in one night!! literally again their writing style is so amazing and the witty banter!!!! also we love a retail bookstore au 
Burnt Plastic (and Other Bad Ideas) by More_of_This
so this one isnt exactly romantically solangelo but it is hilarious in my opinion and i absolutely adore well written college aus and while i know nothing about college this fic is so funny to me (if you read the tags there is, in fact, a raccoon involved) (tw // drinking for this one)
all because you kissed me goodnight by @buoyantsaturn
i have been WAITING for a mortal counselors au and im sure theres some out there already but y’all already know im a cj stan! lots of slowburn, friends to lovers, coworkers, all the good stuff (and i named this one and offered cj a lot of materials from my own camp so this one especially hits!! i reccomend for those good ol summer vibes!!) (tw // drinking for this one)
Waiting With You by @buoyantsaturn
oh boy buckle up if u want an angst ride because this fic tore me apart. i keep threatning cj with “dont pull another waiting with you”. that being said, very much feels like a movie while youre reading it, very fluffy in the middle, we love mutual pining. 
Little Italian Boy by @buoyantsaturn
stream little italian boy by grace gilmore. youll get it. thats it.
The Clues by @thebluesideofmyworld
secret dating when done well is legit one of my favorite tropes of all time and this!!! this!!!!!!!!! its outsiders perspective also which is another one of my favorite tropes, and just little views on nicos life and i love it
So Come On, Talk it Out (your voice brought me back from the dead) by @buoyantsaturn
will solace, sponsered by kitkats, cj edition
no but if you read tower of nero you’ll really like this missing pieces pre-ton fic this is a really soft little fic with a bunch of easter eggs from the book in it, so i highly recommend! if you havent read ton yet and are still avoiding spoilers, come back to this one!
reaching for the sun (you, you, you) by moonswords (@tortadelimao)
i just read this one about 2 hours ago for the first time and i am Still thinking about it. its like the getting together that i literally feel like is canon and the vibes are Immaculate (also william “what about me looks straight” solace)
“Are we on a date right now?” by @unwieldyink
overworked will, nico helping out in the infirmary, first dates & hikes, canon compliant, we love to see it (also its an annie fic so ur required by law to read it)
Outrunning karma by Phantomxlgend 
more will angst! featuring angry overworked will!
Everlasting Ring by minyoongurt (@blueblackslowtown)
i was Very excited when i read the summary of this one, and i think minyoongurt did a really good job!! healer will, injured nico, the whole dynamic. also i love the idea of nico only knowing “thank you” “go away” and “fuck you” in sign language. im pretty sure thats canon
The Little Thing by Rainbow_Mess
i belive this is also a pre-toa fic thats just exploring all the stuff we found out about will in ton and its very short and sweet :)
and of course, a few of my recent works for your consideration
who is he (and what is he to you?)
just doing my silly little tasks
i don’t need three bars to tell me we’re meant to connect
truly, madly, deeply
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fanaticalfunhouse · 4 years
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Hey
What if Emily was a demon?
Like what if she was related to Beej and her original name was, say, Bellatrix?
And her curse was that she had to live out a human life, actually happy and serene and hopeful, while knowing that it was going to be cut off from her at the moment she was happiest? that she would suffer and die when her life was the best?
She'd always be paranoid, watching over her shoulder always.But that fear would go against the curse, her human life had to be actually happy and hopeful.She had to genuinely be happy, to feel good and nice throughout her life.She couldnt be scared or paranoid at all times, otherwise that fear would bring in something thatd hurt her.Maybe her family would die, maybe she'd get attacked.But she wouldnt have any way to stop it.
She'd be afraid of being afraid when she isnt allowed to be afraid and she isnt allowed to be afraid of being afraid.
Then finally the time that she manages to successfully break the curse by living happy hopeful life, aka the life she has with Charles and Lydia, she gets cancer and dies after.When she is happiest, something good happened before her death that made her the happiest that she would be in her life.
Maybe when Charles proposed to her and they got married or when she had Lydia, either way at that time the curse would have caused her to grow a bit of cancer that slowly takes over.And she wouldnt even know until the late stages, until she dies.
But she had a kid.Lydia, who at this point would be half demon.And so far, all demons seem to have a curse.
So Lydia's curse would also be her mom's death and having to deal with it.The curse would have been intended to make Lydia get to the roof, to jump off and fall to her death and repeatedly do that until she gets through the curse and survives.
Then Beetlejuice came around and fucked it up the first time around so she survives without even knowing she was cursed, aka the entire musical happens as it did.
Post musical, beetlejuice comes back and lives with them and realizes one, Lydia reminds him of someone, although he doesnt remember who, and two that something about Lydia is off.
Even compared to his short time interacting with the deetz so far, maybe a couple weeks after the musical, she seems different.She acts different, much more chaotic (like she is in that beautiful sound for instance.She is far more chaotic and willing to harm people (like scaring Sky, the clone getting his arms ripped off, etc) than the others).
Until finally, the tips of her hair start turning green and Beetlejuice realizes Lydia looks a lot like his old sister, who had to go deal with her curse at the same time beetlejuice did after they grew up and Juno kicked them out and finally has the deetz try summoning his sister who he calls Bellatrix.
And it turns out that Bellatrix is Emily.That Bellatrix has now been wandering around in the netherworld, looking for an exit in the final part of her curse, where either someone from before she died in her life that she suceeded the first part, aka Lydia and Charlesb summons her or she is doomed to walk the netherworld alone and lost until she finds a way out to repeat the first part of the curse again.
And then things happen.Shenagins with Lydia being part demon, Emily, Charles and Delia get to work things out, etc. etc.
And yes the musical would happen without any difference because I make everything as canon compliant as possible because I can.
Imagine if Lydia can see the maitlands and beetlejuice because she herself is half demon.
Also this makes Beetlejuice Lydia's uncle which fits really well.
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gender-chaotic · 4 years
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Oh boy b**tleba*bes talking about stuff they have no clue about lmao
Warning talk mentions of b**tleb*bes, over sexualization of minors, and a bit of adult stuff.
Im goldenbeetle shipper whos been here a while now and is a proud drinker of loving barbara maitland juice not gonna deny our community has some issues mostly in the past with leaving babs out of fics and art and focus more on adam and beej as well as more adult content. But this is something myslef and many people IN OUR OWN COMMUNITY has been speaking out about for a long ass time now you can search the tags for posts adressing leaving Barbara out including by myself so jot that down, so we dont need b**tleb*bes who barley know anything about our community telling us about our content especially when some of y'all openly mock our ship and made it clear you do not care about it, thanks. many of us especially more recently add barbara in, ive seen so much goldenbeetle content that includes babs including again my own content, ive purposefully drawn solo babs and beej so if you're saying there no content that includes her or just beej and her you're very VERY wrong, come to me or most shippers we can provide lots of golden beetle content with babs and even just babs and beetlejuice. Not to mention a few of your own b**tleb*bes have made beetlejuice and adam content and usually leaves Barbara out and focuses just on adam and beej but go off i guess lol.
Many people draw barbara also draw her based off her actresses' who are both women who don't have very large breasts on top of that gena davis' dress for Barbara did not reveal much, kerry's showing a bit more with a deep neckline still covered alot of her body. Many people arent drawing babs with big knockers and sexy clothes because were trying to repress her sexuality and make her dress like she's in the handmaids tale, shame women for being sexy, its because barbara and adam are canonically a white bred suburban couple who are "vanilla" its their personailty, i drew babs with smaller breasts and more "canon compliant" for a while before i changed it up. Obviously you CAN draw barabra and even adam as sexy and babs with big tiddies, i draw barbara with larger breasts now, and show her cleavage and I've been doing this for a while and i have draw PLENTY of sexy and pin up style babs as well adult content with her beetlejuice, and adam, I've also posted it on here so again y'all dont know what you're talking about. I know others who have drawn sexy barbara and barbara with larger breasts just because its not common and YOU haven't seen it doesn't mean its not out there.
Have y'all seen art of anyone oc's like including self ship oc's with beej?? many of them are sexy and/or have pretty bug breasts (not complaini g btw yall are doing gr8 i love your oc's) or other adult female characters in the show I've seen of art thats sexy of miss Argentina and delia as well as art of them with larger breasts and dressed more "sexy" because that's their character, dress more revealing and prefer to be "sexy". Ive also never been attacked or seen any other "anti" attack a creator for making sexy art or big breasted versions of female characters that are canonically adults in beetlejuice, this includes myself who has openly posted suggestive content of babs even on here infact Ive seen people actually like that stuff they just don't make it themselves so claiming "no one is allowed" to draw barbara sexy or adult content of her is also a huge load.
Not to get too personal but speaking from experience as a person who developed at a very early age i got my first real bra at 7 or 8, had D-DDD breasts throughout middle school and highschool, currently has g-h cup breasts, has been overly sexualized my entire life by people of all ages because of this, and also deals with ALOT of dysphoria because of It am A-ok with representation of women with larger breasts, including suggestive/sexual art of them, women of all body types including their breasts but that's the thing i highly doubt y'all care about large breasted women I've seen the argument when talking about the over sexualiztion of large breasts
"well you dont care about women with big breasts we exist too!"
"Dont erase our body breasts!"
I get it! But its pretty clear this argument is usually only being presented to tokenize us and then someone will draw a big tiddied lady with wide as birthing hips, a dumpster truck ass, back that looks like it son the verge of breaking, and a waist that varies from size skinny to "holy sh*t did all your organs get sucked out???" If yall really care about women with big breasts draw women of differing body types with big breasts, draw them chubby, fat, ACTUALLY curvy, give them stretch marks, a double chin, ect. You fucking cowards say were mysoginists for "not giving barbara big tiddies"
Most of b**tleb*abe adult lydia art looks like a mix of jessica rabbit, elvira, and morticia addams with the same 2 or 3 body types over and over again, infact ive run into plenty of b**tleb*bes art where lydia has either has big tits or like a B-ish cup ("aged up" lydia thats looks almost exactly like her teenage self canon(s)) not really an inbetween but you "totally care about women with large breasts" its not tat you only care about adult lydia to make her ooc, project onto her and make her to sexy goth queen many of us wanted to be when we were young and watched beetlejuice, ship her with beej so she can be his big tiddy goth gf its TOTALLY about ""feminism"" uh huh....
And where has YOUR sexy barbara art been hmm? b**tleb*bes draw so little art of barbara or either maitlands other than to be in the background and react to beej and lyida's shenanigans, or scold them because babes portray the maitlands or way more protective and prude than in canon, and the little art I've seen babes draw of her isn't sexy big tiddy babs. I have at most seen a handful of deetzland fics with adult content including barbara and that's it. Its very clear many of yall care mostly about lydia and beej especially boinking be honest now. So dont bring up our ship or barbara as a "gotcha antis".
And lastly Lydia, i dont think any of us are saying she cant grow up, we literally just think its gross to sexualize a character who is a minor in canon and age her up solely to be with a canon adult. Ive seen "antis" draw adult lydia in a tasteful way and develop her as she grows up because they're interested in her charcter and no one has taken issue with it at all. Lydia in all canons doesnt have big honkers in any canon either, yes minors can have breasts, even larger ones. I mentioned above that was me, and you can have a character who is a minor who looks more developed than others where its not gross and sexualized (jackie lynn thomas from svtfoe is an example, mami from madoka isnt really sexualized in canon from my memory) i think representaion of all body types abd breast sizes is important for young women but lydia isnt one of those characters even in canons where shes 15-17 and going through puberty.
Let lydia be a child jfc, stop being creepy and getting pissy when people draw lyida with the same breast cup in canon and make her look like the average teen/tween she is, that isnt misogyny its treating a character who is a minor appropriately.
The ACTUAL misogyny is over sexualizing and aging up a tween/teen character soley to do the horizontal monster mash with a adult charcter, write her so that she really only cares about said adult character and the spawn that pop out of her from him, she dies young but parents and friends who cares shes got beetlejuice!, Forget the entire life she leaving behind too, and giving her the body of a pixar mom or h*ntai protagonist a majority of the time.
Your performative white feminism is showing.
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4 9 and 18 for writing asks
Do you outline before you start writing? If so, how far do you stray from that outline?
it depends. it really depends. i dont have a set thing usually. ill just take a vibe, a ship, and a context and go with it. when i used to write full lenght fics though i usually had just a bullet list of points in chronological order and just stuck with it closely usually 
Do you prefer to write AUs, canon divergence, or canon-compliant fic?
for danger days for now its just canon compliant fics (canon from the music videos since its so fucked up) for sanders sides it’s just aus. like i dont like the whole sanders sides canon too much? like i prefer human aus and all 
What is a line/scene you’re really proud of? Give us the DVD commentary for that scene.
im gonna pick something off of my danger days fic since yall arent too into ts sides 
“and you lie to yourself and you swear that you’ll never kill again.” 
this particular line is one of my favorite lines ive ever written ever actually, its one that i just remember (i usually dont remember stuff word for word for fics it’s usually like “oh, thats a high school au, that has x kind of vibes”) and i remember writing it and being like fuck yes and freaking out about it with my friend (and editor) and i just love the entire scene so much. it just introduces death as something the fab four (kobra in this case) actively do themselves. and it’s just this kind of like “wow that took a dark turn” because even though the paragraphs before were also about death in some way shape or form it was never active violence. it was always like, oh, ghoul got taken advantage of, jet’s crew was killed, poison and kobra almost died getting to the desert etc. and i always framed it in a “oh im free now” way kind of? and with that scene i wanted to just make the reader realize that oh, the desert isnt as glamorous as some people make it out to be, it’s sad, and it’s violent etc. 
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