Rewatching On the Head of a Pin
Welcome to “Shockingly Little Soft Shoe: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s4e16: On the Head of a Pin
“Castiel and Uriel want Dean to help them get info out of Alastair using the, um, very special skills he learned during his residency Downstairs. But the phrase “This hurts me more than it hurts you” has maybe never been more truthful, and Dean is clearly shook by the experience. Also, Alastair manages to escape the demon trap and Smarty Cas figures out it was Uriel who let him. All is fraught in the world of angels and boys.”
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Lor:
my god look at him
Mace:
so young
Lor:
all stern and hair and coat flapping and striding
Lor:
YES
Mace:
YES
Lor:
the burnt wing thing is SO COOL
Mace:
it really is
Lor:
oooo Sam is driving
Mace:
yeah that’s weird
Lor:
yeah
Lor:
"I'm tired of burying friends, Sam" oh hon
Mace:
“get angry"
Lor:
"we just got back from needed"
Mace:
he’s so done
Mace:
“good times"
Lor:
he really is
Lor:
and the look on Cas's face
Mace:
he’s so cute when he’s pissed
Lor:
omg Uriel giving Cas the "don't coddle them" look
Mace:
and Cas pursing his lips
Lor:
yep he's not about it
Lor:
he wants to coddle the short one so bad
Mace:
snork I love that he’s the short one at, what, over 6 ft?
Lor:
YES
Lor:
ooooof this whole storyline the asking Dean to torture the demon who taught him to torture I just
Mace:
oh Sammy is pissed too
Lor:
YES
Mace:
yeah it’s a great story line
Lor:
"this is too much to ask, I know, but we have to ask it"
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
the dynamic between them is just chef's kiss
Mace:
yeah, give them some privacy pls
Lor:
BACK OFF URIEL
Lor:
uriel's the funniest angel in the garrison lolololololol
Mace:
SNORK
Lor:
"i've been told we need it" I love how he puts it that it's not HIM that wants it
Lor:
"I would give anything not to have you do this"
Mace:
ooof
Lor:
and Dean's watery eyes
Mace:
yep
Mace:
this dude is so gross
Lor:
right?
Lor:
he's so good at the part
Mace:
too good. it’s gross
Lor:
Sam looks very nice in that shirt
Mace:
he really really does
Mace:
oh Sammy, I adore you, you know that, but you don’t have it in you. Dean… does.
Lor:
John only lasted that long because his heart was already a stone
Lor:
yeah
Lor:
that's kind of the problem, Sammy
Lor:
THAT'S why he's not right since he came back
Mace:
“Daddy’s little girl”
Mace:
I LOVE IT
Lor:
YES
Mace:
he needs a cutoff T with that on it
Lor:
YES HE DOES
Mace:
and Cas needs one that just says Daddy
Lor:
OMG YESYESYES
Mace:
this super shouldn’t be so hot
Lor:
eh
Mace:
yes, Dean LET’S GET STARTED
Lor:
oooof Cas's FACE
Lor:
HOW do people think these two don't love each other
Mace:
they’re dummies
Lor:
spells are in Latin but ending spells is in English?
Mace:
pls don’t get me started
Lor:
I mean
Lor:
I would not be above getting you started
Mace:
i know this, Lor
Mace:
oh Sam
Lor:
weak. he should be drinking it straight from her neck
Mace:
you sweet tall dipshit
Lor:
come on, boy, if yer gonna do it, do it
Lor:
LOLOLOL
Lor:
YES
Lor:
no no Alistair. there may be no going back, but Cas is building him into something so much better
Mace:
besides, he’s more interesting with the torture competence and the being tortured by the torture competence
Mace:
exponentially hotter
Lor:
DEFINITELY
Mace:
“went to receive revelation” = “having a poop"
Lor:
OMG that look on his face when he holds his jaw SO HOT
Lor:
HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
YES
Lor:
oh Cas. lean into your doubt, baby
Mace:
oh honey, Chuck is a dick
Lor:
right?
Mace:
oh, we’re calling it doubt now? See, I thought it was Gay Feelings for Dean Dean
Lor:
I do love that the emphasis here is on what the torture does to the torturer. like it's obvious that you shouldn't torture people because of what it does to the victim of the torture. putting the emphasis on how it harms the person doing it is so much more interesting
Lor:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
I think it's both
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
(I feel like there's an understood but maybe needs to be said "in fiction" here)
Mace:
(nah)
Lor:
(oh good)
Lor:
oh Dean
Lor:
is the hardest part of this for him learning that he was responsible for breaking the first seal or that he was a righteous man?
Lor:
OMG the quivering lip. the twitch in the jaw. HOW does Jensen DO that?
Mace:
How much of it, I wonder, is Moral Law that the torturer is damaged and how much is actually that the damage is self-inflicted, in the sense that Dean thinks he shouldn’t like it, Mr. Black and White no Grey (at this point in the show, at least)
Lor:
ooooo interesting
Mace:
oh look, he’s actually showing damage here - maybe because he believes he deserves this?
Mace:
oooh and look, Cas has no qualms about twisting that knife
Mace:
that in itself is pretty darn hot
Lor:
I am FASCINATED by this question. has Alaistair hurt him in a way that we can see or is he ABLE to because Dean thinks he deserves it?
Lor:
YES
Mace:
I mean, I think that’s the best/most interesting interpretation of the whole idea of Hell: it only exists for those who believe they deserve it
Lor:
and what, exactly, is the differentce between using Dean's torture knowledge he learned from a demon and Sam doing it because he's jumped up on demon blood?
Lor:
so it doesn't exist for turdburgers who think they're okay?
Lor:
hmmm
Mace:
Yes! Sam believes in his ‘cause’ and so isn’t at all tortured by what he’s doing. And as much as I love him, Dean’s anguish is better/more complex.
Lor:
like, I don't think it exists as a literal place, but I have always kind of thought of hell as the twisting up you do to yourself by not being a good human
Mace:
I don’t really think there’s anyone who’s actually that simpleminded
Lor:
the turdburgers bit?
Lor:
oh Cas
Mace:
so for you that version exists.
Mace:
yep
Mace:
aw, he had a good poop
Lor:
the way he loses his faith is so heartbreaking even though it is the thing that lets him become who he authentically is
Lor:
HAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
I mean one does often feel more clear minded after a nice movement
Mace:
exactly
Lor:
Cas looks so LITTLE and LOST
Lor:
take that boy and run away with him and find a nice place to live together, Cas
Mace:
lost faith tends to do that
Lor:
yeah
Mace:
yes, Cas, do that
Mace:
“I’m considering disobedience” THAT IS SO HOT
Lor:
YES IT IS
Mace:
he’s aiming to misbehave
Lor:
and the fact that it MEANS something to him makes it even HOTTER
Lor:
YAAAAAAS
Mace:
now, fuck off, Anna
Lor:
"please tell me what to do" oh hon
Lor:
yep, think for yourself
Mace:
oh, I’ll tell you what to do, sugarwings
Lor:
yeah, Anna, get lost. and don't ever touch Dean or Cas again
Lor:
YAAAAAAS
Lor:
GOD LOOK AT HIM
Mace:
YES
Lor:
Uriel you lying piece of shit
Mace:
yep
Lor:
I mean. it probably was forever, Cas
Mace:
HA
Lor:
nah. it's the blade
Mace:
angel blades don’t kill angels. angels kill angels.
Lor:
LOL
Lor:
careful Uriel. that's Lucifer talk there
Lor:
also, have you met Cas? shittalking humanity is not the way to get him on your side
Mace:
HA
Mace:
Uriel would be so cool as Luci
Lor:
oh. Uriel knows he's Lucifering. I had forgotten that piece
Lor:
he WOULD
Lor:
I'm cool with Uriel exiting stage left but I wish they had either cast this actor as someone who stuck around or found a way to bring him back
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
(shockingly this is true of many of the Black actors on this show)
Mace:
(NOOOO. I’M SHOOK.)
Lor:
omg his little bloody face
Mace:
YES
Mace:
everyone’s getting torn up today
Lor:
YEP
Lor:
on SPN blood is either silly or HOT
Mace:
yep
Lor:
he goes to sit with him I cannot
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"you need to be more careful" "you need to learn to manage a damn devil's trap" MARRIED
Mace:
AND ANNA IS BANISHÈD
Mace:
YEP
Lor:
"it is not blame that falls on you, Dean. it's fate" OOOOOOOF
Mace:
now THAT’S an excellent debate
Mace:
Oedipal like, and all
Lor:
the one who starts it has to stop it. the CIRCLE of it all kicks feets in stupid symbolism glee
Lor:
YES
Mace:
“then you guys are screwed” oh HONEY
Lor:
"I can't do it, Cas. It's too big" and his VOICE
Lor:
THIS MAN SHOULD HAVE AN EMMY
Mace:
he really should
Lor:
"I guess I'm not the man either of our dads wanted me to be"
Mace:
“either of our dads” oh jesusfuckingchrist that’s good
Lor:
WELL THEY WERE BOTH ASSHOLES, DEAN
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
ooooof that is AN EPISODE
Mace:
CRIPES
Lor:
I feel like you could do a whole semester-long course on THIS ep. the symbolism! the family dynamics! the weird-ass Christianity
Lor:
hello, this is interdisciplinary shit 101. our text is one (1) episode of Supernatural
Mace:
snork
Lor:
how not to do Latin
Lor:
Blood-born diseases and how they make you able to smish demons
Lor:
the possibilities are endless
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Rewatching It’s the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester
Welcome to “‘You don’t take a joint from a guy name Don’: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s4e7: It’s the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester
The boys investigate a couple of mysterious deaths in a small town around Halloween. Turns out it's a couple of witches trying to raise a demon named Samhain. Cas finds himself caught in the middle between another angel who wants to wipe the town off the map, and Dean, who intends to kill the witches and save the town.”
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
HALLOWEEEEEN
Lor:
YAS
Lor:
god how did they not just jump each other right there
Mace:
“you should show me some respect” TELL ME THAT’S NOT DOM TALK
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
Lor:
YAAAAAS
Mace:
oh ewewew I remember this part EWEWEW
Lor:
gets behind the couch
Mace:
shivers
Lor:
oh god nopenopenope the shot from inside his mouth NOPE
Mace:
RIGHT?!?!
Lor:
"the candy was never in the oven" and his face
Mace:
watch your tone Mrs Wallace
Lor:
HA
Mace:
the “it’s fucking WITCHES” look HAHAHA
Lor:
YES
Lor:
I love when the boys communicate without talking like that
Lor:
"it's Halloween, man"
Lor:
I love how grossed out he is by witches
Mace:
YES YES YES
Lor:
oh man this is awful too I forgot how much awful there is in this one
Mace:
RIGHT?!
Mace:
also she did NOT get the apple that quickly
Lor:
NOPE
Mace:
“I would never”
Lor:
okay who wrote this one? Dean would actually never
Mace:
he really wouldn’t but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t like to be ogled by hot teen girls
Lor:
oh sure that, but that little "yeah I would grin" after he says it bugs me
Lor:
Sam Winchester, I love you, but if you don't stop saying SAM HAIN, I swear
Mace:
that’s very true
Mace:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Mace:
now you know how I feel when they ‘speak’ Latin
Lor:
LOL YEP
Mace:
oh Dean honey
Lor:
pops up out of the backseat with a bottle of Pepto
Mace:
SNORK
Lor:
oh Dean
Lor:
you imagine yourself as a hot cheerleader all you like, hon
Mace:
he would come back as a hot cheerleader? yeah he would
Lor:
YES
Mace:
OH DEAN
Lor:
omg Dean, his scared little freckle face
Mace:
YES
Mace:
“yeah, we get it, Don"
Mace:
GEDDY LEE
Lor:
YES
Lor:
I was gonna say, Dean, you DID have candy
Mace:
“luck’s not our style” OH DEAN
Mace:
HAHAHA
Lor:
back off the fatshaming, DEAN
Mace:
DEAN WINCHESTER DO NOT FAT SHAME ANYONE ESP A KID
Lor:
YEP
Mace:
Sam is fangirling HAHAHA
Lor:
we will have a talk with that boy
Mace:
YES
Lor:
hahahahaha Sam, never meet your heroes
Mace:
SNORK
Lor:
DID CAS SAY SAM HAIN TOO
Mace:
HE DID
Mace:
he’s lowkey making fun of the boys
Lor:
Cas, come here, baby, I just want to talk
Lor:
HA
Lor:
I will accept that
Mace:
takes a bow
Lor:
he's a sous chef, Dean
Mace:
SNORK!!!!
Lor:
well done
Lor:
oooo lookit Cas getting all up in Dean's face and making him bluescreen
Mace:
DID DEAN JUST LOOK CAS IN THE EYES AND LICK HIS LIPS?!
Lor:
YEAH HE DID
Mace:
BUT THEY’RE JUST FRIENDS
Lor:
that's a tautology, Cas
Mace:
omg did Cas just bring John into it?!
Mace:
Dirty. Pool.
Lor:
yeah, just bros
Lor:
RIGHT?
Lor:
do not use John as an example Cas you know better
Lor:
when Cas's boyfriend wants to try, he gets to try, URIEL
Lor:
"ASSTRONAUT!"
Mace:
YES
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
Lor:
I was gonna say, Sam, they are righteous
Mace:
YEP
Lor:
oh Sammy. meeting an angel jumpstarts Dean's faith and wrecks Sam's
Mace:
YEP
Lor:
I love that there's markers in there too
Mace:
SNORK
Lor:
ooo Cas doesn't like it when you talk about HUMANITY that way
Mace:
UHHUH
Lor:
oooo what are your true orders
Mace:
RIGHT?!
Lor:
stop making our boys hurt
Mace:
YEAH
Mace:
smarty Sammy
Lor:
oh Dean does NOT like getting smeared with blood
Lor:
YES
Mace:
he really doesn’t
Lor:
he likes things tidy, our Dean
Mace:
he does
Lor:
dude, you're in DON, don't throw stones
Mace:
SNORK
Lor:
oh Dean
Mace:
HE SAID LOR EVERYBODY DRINK
Lor:
it WORKED, calm down
Lor:
YAAAAAS
Lor:
this town of 1000 people sure has all the stuff
Mace:
SNORK
Mace:
“I mean, Don?” Ha! The kids don’t like calling him Don, either
Lor:
NOPE
Mace:
aw, poor stoner dude
Lor:
yeah
Lor:
mmm I love how he takes charge of a situation
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
ooo Sammy being badass
Mace:
YAAAAASSSSS
Lor:
"that's it. I'm torching everybody"
Mace:
snork!
Mace:
Oh, Sam
Mace:
don’t poop your pants, Bean
Lor:
HAHAHAHA I was thinking that but was refraining from mentioning
Lor:
oh the look on Dean's face
Mace:
I’m here to say the things others won't
Lor:
that's his baby brother who DOES NOT LISTEN
Mace:
yeah
Lor:
LOLOLOLOLOL
Mace:
It’s not Mr. Hain, Sammy
Lor:
we know that Dean is in love with Cas bc Sam is clearly not in love with Uriel
Lor:
HAHAHAHAHA
Mace:
SNORK
Lor:
Uriel CAUSING PROBLEMS
Mace:
YUP. Angelic shit-stirrer
Lor:
lol
Mace:
Cas looks SO GOOD here
Lor:
HE DOES
Lor:
"it was a witch, not the Tet Offensive"
Mace:
oh god, Dean likes war movies
Mace:
ew
Lor:
his little holey knees
Mace:
YES
Lor:
YEP
Mace:
(I’m not watching them with him)
Lor:
(NOPE)
Lor:
a select few, maybe, but NOT about Vietnam
Lor:
Cas is CONFIDING in Dean ALREADY
Lor:
I LOVE THEM
Mace:
YAAAAASSSSS
Lor:
and he was PRAYING for Dean to do the human thing
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
flaps and bounces
Mace:
ooof that last scene
Lor:
YES
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Rewatching Red Sky at Morning
Welcome to “Stinks Like Seaman Spirit: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s3e6: Red Sky at Morning
In a coastal city in New England, people are drowning on dry land. Sam and Dean aren’t the dumb brothers, so they think that’s kind of odd. With the help of both Bella, who is in town to steal something and sell it (of course), and a grabby old lady who has the hots for Sam, the boys figure out that a sailor hanged on an old sailing ship is responsible for the strange deaths. In the course of trying to dispatch him, they have to get all dolled up and pretend to be rich at a charity function, think on their feet, and save Bella from the ghost. They learn that Bella has committed murder, though she won’t tell them anything about the circumstances, and Sam and Dean do a nice rendition of the fraught brothers over Dean’s continuing refusal to care about his impending death and sentence to hell.
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
public water fountain = ew
Lor:
GHOST SHIP
CORRECT
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
"Happy Purim" Sammy
Mace:
SNORK
Dean sounds like a dad here
“something you wanna tell me?"
Lor:
YEP
Sam's little nod
Mace:
YES
Mace:
BACK OFF MY STRINGBEAN, KALE
omg DEAN’S LITTLE COUGH
Lor:
"Alex and us, we're like this" the way he just goes with it
Mace:
YES
Lor:
OH NO don't touch Sammy like that
YES HIS COUGH
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"weirdo dryland drownings"
Mace:
snork
Lor:
"where's my car?"
Mace:
oh Dean
Lor:
omg Dean, baby, breathe
Mace:
Sammy, don’t tell him to calm down
Lor:
RIGHT?
Mace:
SMARTY SAMMY
Lor:
YES
Mace:
omg Dean imagining her in that scenario
Lor:
YES
is she... wearing any clothes under that coat?
Mace:
possibly not
Lor:
"not in public"
Mace:
Sam gives SUCH good annoyed face
Lor:
YES
Mace:
i would need to provoke that as often as possible
Lor:
YAAAS
DON'T REACH INTO THE TUB
Mace:
DO NOT STICK YOUR ARM IN THAT WATER DUMMY
YAS
Lor:
lololol
I love the way Bella and the boys keep sticking it to each other
Mace:
YES
i think they’re each fascinated with the other
Lor:
YEP
"I don't know. your daddy give you enough?"
THEY HAVE EACH OTHER PEGGED
Mace:
oh MAN, the daddy hugs thing hurts BOTH of them in ways the other doesn’t realize
YAS
Lor:
YES
watch your mouth, man
Mace:
poor Baby
Lor:
right?
gettin' stole, bein' insulted
Mace:
yep
“that can’t be good"
that’s a professional opinion right there
Lor:
yep
he knows not good when he sees it
Mace:
he sure does
Lor:
ghost is getting sloppy. you REALLY can't drown in a car on land
Mace:
SNORK
I don’t think he cares
Lor:
LOL
I love that it's Dean who can't sit normal in a chair but it's JARED who can't sit normal in a chair
Mace:
is this the first time they’ve stayed in a not-motel?
Lor:
I think so
Mace:
omg YAS
Lor:
"aren't you a sharp tack" yes, Bella, yes, he is
DEAN WINCHESTER
Mace:
DEAN WINCHESTER
Lor:
hahahahaha
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
pretty sure a hand of glory is always a man’s no? so that’s interesting
Lor:
iiiiiinteresting
"what are you, a woman?"
GOD I LOVE THIS REVEAL DOWN THE STAIRS
Mace:
I LOVE that he’s the one making an entrance and she’s in the Male Gaze position
Lor:
"we should really have angry sex" YES YOU SHOULD
Mace:
YES YOU SHOULD
Lor:
YESYESYES
Mace:
“don’t objectify me” DEAN
Lor:
"don't objectify me"
he's actually uncomfortable
it's such a NICE little piece of characterization
Mace:
YES because in that one little moment he realizes, I believe, that this happens to him a lot in myriad ways
Lor:
YES
OMG Dean and the gum
Mace:
but the little smile on the way out is that he doesn’t... ming
*mind
Lor:
YEP
Mace:
typo - he CLEARLY mings often
BACK OFF MY STRINGBEAN, BITCH
Lor:
SNORK
Mace:
my GOD he looks good
Lor:
RIGHT? leave him alone
Mace:
all three of them do
Lor:
"this is easier and it's a lot more entertaining"
Dean
Mace:
my bi self is happy in this ep
Lor:
YAAAS
Mace:
omg DEAN’s gleeful grin
Lor:
YES
Bella's décolletage is stunning
Mace:
IT SO FLIPPING IS
and her hair looks so good
Lor:
YEP
Mace:
and there’s something about the precise way she speaks
DEAN
Lor:
"no sir" "no?"
YES
I love how he just goes with it
aw she FLUSTERS him
"very Oscar Wilde"
Mace:
YES
Lor:
and him trying to figure out what that means
Mace:
his LOOK BACK at her
Lor:
(headcanon: when he gets a chance, he looks up Oscar Wilde and then he has a LOT of INTERESTING reading material)
Mace:
YES
Lor:
STOP FONDLING PEOPLE WITHOUT CONSENT GERT
Mace:
RIGHT?!
she is so clever!
Lor:
YES
gooood taking the handkerchief out of his breast pocket and shaking it out
Mace:
YES
“okayokayokay” poor Sam
Lor:
yeah
"you stink like sex" DEAN
Mace:
“you stink like sex” DEAN WINCHESTER
HAHAHA
Lor:
lololol
"Mrs. Who?"
Mace:
HAHAHA
he’ll look that up later, too
Lor:
YEP
he enjoys the atmosphere of that one but it's not NEARLY as INTERESTING
Mace:
HAHAHA YEP
Lor:
"you not us"
omg Dean's face. so betraaaaayed
Mace:
SNORK such a snark
Lor:
YES
Mace:
a nautical fury i love it
Lor:
"was it daddy?" ooooh, Dean
YES
I LOVE ship stuff
Mace:
YEP
Lor:
they are so JUDGEY. they have such strong moral compasses, even if a lot of people might not understand or share them
Mace:
yeah
Sam zipping his coat up
Lor:
did he... say castiel?
YES
Mace:
DID HE JUST SAY CASTIEL?!
Lor:
hahahahahahahaha
I'm pretty sure he did
Mace:
HAHAHAHA
Lor:
which is funny because I'm pretty sure that actual angel is Cassiel
Mace:
HA interesting
Lor:
oooo the creaking of the masts
Mace:
I love that boy, but GOD his Latin pronunciation is shit awful
Lor:
they are all so pretty all wet
Mace:
oh man, that’s such a COOL effect
YAAASSS
Lor:
LOLOLOLOL you'll help him get better at it
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"you're so damaged" "takes one to know one"
Mace:
“you’re so damaged” that is one of the few moments where I don’t like Dean very much
Lor:
yeah. not very kind
"I guess I would have done the same thing"? you DID
Mace:
and they will again. and again.
Lor:
YEP
"please stop worrying about me" oooof
Mace:
yeah, not possible, Sam
Lor:
"I want you to give a crap that you're dying"
keep trying, Sammy, keep trying
Mace:
oh BOYS
Lor:
YES
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Rewatching Phantom Traveler
Welcome to “I Am Winchesters: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!
Up today, s1e4: Phantom Traveler
A demon takes over a nervous flyer and then causes a plane to crash. A guy who works at the airfield is a people who was saved from a thing by John and Dean, so he calls Dean for help. The boys investigate, buy their first suits, almost get caught pretending to be Homeland Security, and in a last-ditch effort to keep the next plane from crashing, get on it to stop the demon before time’s up. Dean hums Metallica, Sam bungles some Latin, the lore is a little weird, and the boys save the day. Aaaaand it turns out John is alive and fine, or at least he was pretty recently because he’s changed his voicemail message to tell people to call Dean if they need help. (Fuck that guy sideways.)
Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.
[and we begin:]
Mace:
helpful, dude, very helpful
Lor:
right?
those sound like TERRIBLE odds
Mace:
plus, you know, gee, I never would have thought of that myself, you'RE A GENIUS
Lor:
lololol
ooo, floaty black bits. probably fine
Mace:
yep, fine
ugh
Lor:
yeeeeeah
Mace:
I am so scared of flying
Lor:
YEP
I hate it
Mace:
so this is not great for me
Lor:
holds you
Mace:
holds you back
Lor:
oh, but then we get this shot
Mace:
YAS
the belly sleeping
Lor:
YAAAAS
Mace:
when does that stop and for the love of god WHY does it stop
Lor:
we are GOING TO NOTICE this time when it stops
Mace:
YES
firm head nod
Lor:
lol
Mace:
prediction: it's correlative to the level of guilt Dean has about various things
Lor:
YEP
ooof, here in the beginning, it is not Dean who is having the nightmares
"not not really" LIAR
Mace:
belly sleeping = the sleep of the self-perceived innocent
Lor:
YEP
I also feel like that whole pan over the sleeping body with the ominous someone coming in the room casts him in a feminine role
god the bedhead hedgehog hair
Mace:
huh interesting
Lor:
Dean's grin when the dude says he wouldn't be alive but for Dean and John
Mace:
YES
Lor:
dang, Homeland Security was new
Mace:
Homeland Security as something new
HAHAHAHA
Lor:
MACE
Mace:
they're still using that light filter in this episode
Lor:
yep
Mace:
I've decided to call it The Freckle Enhancer
Lor:
HA. YES
Mace:
why the need for mispronouncing the name, I wonder?
Lor:
yeah, I wondered that too
Mace:
seems unnecessary unless there's a point
Lor:
what is that doing for anything?
Mace:
right?
omg Dean's thinking face is so adorable
Lor:
YES
Mace:
Baby hood leaning!
Lor:
leaning over the top of Baby!
Mace:
HAHAHA OMG
Lor:
snork Us this episode, man
Mace:
right?
Lor:
Dean's adorable not yet super deep voice
Mace:
YES
FIRST REAL SUITS
Lor:
YAAAAS
"I hate this thing" you will grow to love it, DeanDean
Mace:
Dean Winchester, you do NOT hate that suit
You know you look good
Lor:
LOLOLOLOL
he likes to dress up in all the outfits and no one will tell me different
Mace:
is this kind of warehouse a real thing, I wonder, with the plane plan on the floor? because if it is thanks I HATE IT
Lor:
no idea
my GENIUS ENGINEER
Mace:
Ha!
Lor:
gently smacks Sammy for making fun of it
the plane things is creepy though
Mace:
dude, it's not like Dean didn't make fun of my Sammy for knowing stuff last time
hmph
Lor:
lolol. I DO apologize
omg taking the suit jacket off
Mace:
apology accepted
YES
he's had that suit two seconds and it already has barbed wired holes in it
tsk
Lor:
HA
better than in his lovely handses
Mace:
although the scars would be gorgeous
Lor:
THEY WOULD
omg Sammy with his collar open like that
Mace:
omg SAMMY WITH THE COLLAR
Lor:
DUDE
Mace:
LOR
although why does it look like that collar is from the 70s?
Lor:
because all the heroes in this show live perpetually in 1979
Mace:
snork
Lor:
as evidenced by their furniture and TVs
oh NO, not a DEMON
Mace:
HAHAHA oh, such innocence
omg Sammy's laptop has a tramp stamp
Lor:
lololololol
Sam with the internet and Dean with the books. I love it
Mace:
YES
Lor:
it's not their normal gig
Mace:
sweet things, they'll learn
Lor:
YEP
it's only kind of ironic. you can't go ten miles in PA without hitting a small town named after a Biblical place
Mace:
SNORK!
Lor:
lookit him, driving all fast
Mace:
ha!
oh Dean, your bullshit skills need some work
Lor:
lol, poor Dean. thrown for a loop
rolling with it though
Mace:
YES
Lor:
"I KNOW" his face!
Mace:
YES
Lor:
WHAT could they possibly have in the trunk that would make it through security?
Mace:
HAHAHAHA holy water?
Lor:
LOL
Mace:
omg he is ADORABLE
Lor:
he IS TOO ADORABLE
"what are you nuts? you said it yourself, the plane's gonna crash"
DON'T TELL ANXIOUS PEOPLE TO RELAX
Mace:
RIGHT?!
omg the humming!
Lor:
YAAAAAS
he has anxiety coping strategies, I love him
Mace:
YES
"dude I know, I'm not an idiot"
Lor:
"dude, I know, I'm not an idiot"
Mace:
(but sammy's a bit of one - it's not Christo but Christus)
Lor:
SNORK
( I am a bad person, because he is SO CUTE nervous)
Mace:
YES HE IS
Dean is attracted to her strength and I love it
Lor:
YAAAAS
"come on, that can't be normal"
dang, Sammy, don't pull out dom voice on your brother. that's not fair
Mace:
HAAAAAHAHAHAHA
Lor:
...worked though
Mace:
"once and for all" well that mythology changes
Lor:
yep
"I will if you will"
ADORABLE
Mace:
YES
Lor:
the Xfiles ref
Mace:
YES
I mean. Christo is either the ablative or the dative, which technically is okay, I guess? But why would they say it in those cases and not either the nominative (christus) or the vocative (christe)? (JFC let it go, Mace)
Lor:
I LOVE YOU
they are so EARNEST
Mace:
SQUISH
THEY ARE
thank you for tolerating my dead language pedantry
Lor:
tolerate, pish. i love your dead language pedantry
whatever freaking magic mary poppins pockets Dean has in that jacket, I want em
Mace:
HAHAHA YES
or maybe it's some church Latin nonsense? but if it ain't Ciceronian Latin IT AIN'T LATIN
Lor:
Mace:
oh poor Sammy
HAHAHA Dean screaming I LOVE HIM
Lor:
I'm not supposed to laugh at Dean's terror right?
Mace:
OMG HAHAHA
Lor:
lololol
jeeeez, when he sticks his head through the curtains
I cannot
Mace:
YES
on the surface it's hilarious that he's afraid of something so mundane when he faces all the insanely scary stuff he does, but it also makes sense because he knows how to deal with the monster stuff but can't control things if the plane goes down (which is why I'm so scared of them, too, to be honest)
Lor:
YES
Mace:
the little head nod at her "thank you"
sigh
Lor:
the whispered thank-you and his nod
hey, we almost chiasmused!
Mace:
HAHAHAHA YAAASSS
hugs you for your use of “chiasmus”
Lor:
lean on that car, Dean. you lean on it
Mace:
YAS
Lor:
John, you mind-game playing little shit
Mace:
RIGHT?! useless putz
Lor:
oooof, Sammy
the both of them, really. reacting in different ways because they've been hurt differently by him
Mace:
exactly!
[after the episode ended:]
Lor:
this one always feels weird to me. like it doesn't fit with the rest of the show in some kind of weird way? maybe because they are on a plane? or maybe because the little mythology we get in this one is pretty much not what they use later?
Mace:
Agreed. the mythology bothers me a bit, plus it seems fish out of water - air travel is not liminal enough, setting-wise, for the show in general
Lor:
ooo, yes, good. I like that. I couldn't put my finger on why the plane part feels so wrong, but that's good
Mace:
although I do like that Dean does feel uncomfortable about it, which is on the nose
Lor:
Sam and Dean don't... do planes? like, it's too mainstream or something?
YES
Mace:
he doesn't belong even in the airport and thus fumbles with his bullshitting and such
Lor:
YES
and they have no luggage (obviously). weirdly, they are exactly who TSA probably doesn't want on a plane? ticket at the last second, no luggage, acting squirrelly
Mace:
ooooh, good point
pairs nicely with the mention of the "new" homeland security
Lor:
yep
Winchesters drive all night or maybe ride a Greyhound to do a trip in 36 hours that would take 4 on a plane. they don't fly
Mace:
I am Winchesters
Lor:
I am usually also Winchesters
I will get on a plane, but I'm very unhappy about it
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