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a-clowns-words · 2 years

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Chloé for the ask game!!

omg chloé!!

First impression: i thought she had great hair

Impression now: she deserves the WORLD

Favorite moment: i cant choose but i like the whole chapter where she suspended nina

Idea for a story: none

Unpopular opinion: dont rally have one

Favorite relationship: i do really like her and jean-jacques's dynamic

Favorite headcanon: i dont have any <,/3 i should think about her more

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#chloé d'apchier #vnc chloé #vanitas no carte #vnc #the case study of vanitas #van's sins ⛓️

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neversetyoufree · 5 days

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GOD I just realized.

When Jeanne goes to Gévaudan in the present day, she's dead set on killing Chloé. And that sense of obligation isn't just due to her sense of duty as a bourreau; she very clearly feels personal guilt about failing to kill Chloé the previous time. Why?

Jeanne goes into Gévaudan thinking that Chloé really is the Beast. And that means she thinks Chloé's been killing the people of Gévaudan, which she must know Chloé in her right mind would rather die than do. Hell, Chloé even asked Jeanne to kill her when they met on the cliff as beast and bourreau, as she really was laden down with the guilt of "causing" the deaths of her family and the horror of the true nature of the "beast." Jeanne has every reason to think that Chloé has been killing her people and is suicidally miserable about it.

And it's not just that Chloé wants to die and Jeanne failed to kill her. As far as Jeanne can tell when she comes back to Gévaudan, Chloé is still alive and living Jeanne's personal worst nightmare. When Jeanne cries to Vanitas about the fear of losing herself in the atelier, she's not just scared of a loss of identity or control. She's terrified that her violent impulses and loss of self will one day bring her to hurt Luca—the person she loves and most wants to protect.

Chloé is absolutely devoted to the people of Gévaudan. Jeanne knows that, and when she thinks Chloé is the beast, she thinks she's been killing them. She thinks that Chloé has lost herself to her violent impulses and is hurting the people she most wants to protect. So of course Chloé has to die! Jeanne herself also desperately wants to die rather than risk hurting a loved one. It's why Vanitas's promise is a comfort to her.

Jeanne is haunted by the thought that she failed Chloé by not killing her, and that guilt is informed by a bone-deep understanding. Jeanne wants to kill Chloé because she sees herself in the horror of what she thinks Chloé's situation is, and she cannot allow Chloé to keep living their shared worst nightmare. Chloé has to die because she cannot exist in a world where she's hurt her people, and Jeanne can relate to that better than anyone.

That's why Vanitas has to emphasize that Chloé never hurt the people of Gévaudan when he finally talks Jeanne into saving her. Jeanne's guilt may not be the only reason she tries so hard to kill Chloé. There's also her job as a bourreau and her sense that she's simply bound to carry out orders, but I don't think she initially enters Gévaudan with the blank mindset of a thoughtless drone.

Jeanne goes to Gévaudan to kill Chloé because she knows that Chloé would rather die than live having hurt her beloved people. There is no saving her once she's crossed that line. And Jeanne understands that because she's terrified of the exact same thing.

#I speed-wrote this post during breakfast this morning bc I was SO excited by the revelation #I love parallels so much #vnc #the case study of vanitas #vanitas no carte #Jeanne #Jeanne vnc #chloé d'apchier #english major hours #parallels

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torterrachampion · 10 months

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Glad Mochijun let Chloé and Jean-Jacques both have a go at the heroine pose in their partner's arms. Equality.

#personally volume 7's cover is my preference but both is good #I like the possessiveness in volume 7 lol #also in both the difference in size between their hands... cute #vnc #vanitas no carte #I want to talk about them with someone... I need to be really inane about it. no analysis. no thought. just ehehe cute.#i lovw them...#chloé d'apchier #jean jacques chastel

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existingtm · 3 months

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Pandora Hearts || Vanitas no Carte

#anytime i see one of mochijun's parallels i go feral #pandora hearts #vanitas no carte #vnc #the case study of vanitas #oz vessalius #chloé d'apchier

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thedarkattic · 1 year

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#vanitas no carte #vnc #chloé d'apchier #chloe d'apchier #my art #wip

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cinammonelles · 9 months

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Hey so I was rereading random vnc chapters a while back and remember when vanitas was calling out to his mother in his feverish delirium during the Flashback arc?

He was muttering Luna's name at the cabin during Gevaudan arc

Do you see what I see

#like yeah ik he was thinking abt luna because of the whole talk with jeanne abt chloé #but still #the way he subconsciously reaches out for them whenever he's vulnerable #the way he probably blames himself for both their deaths and how it tears him apart from the inside #the way he went from calling out to someone whose love he's always secretly craved to the actual parental figure who gave him that love #oughhh #being normal about vnc hours #vnc #vnc spoilers #vanitas no carte #text #🍀

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korygeki · 9 months

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Daily JJ collection part1

I'm posting a Jean-Jacques doodle every day for 20 days on tw*tter, these are from days 1 to 5!

#vanitas no carte #the case study of vanitas #jean jacques chastel #chloé d'apchier #vnc #art tag

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the-chikyuu-times · 11 months

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anathie · 1 year

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🥀

#chloé d'apchier #chloe d'apchier #vanitas no carte #vnc #my art #fanart

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magpierigel · 2 years

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Anime: Vanitas no Carte (The Case Study of Vanitas) Music: 0 (zero) -english version- By LYMK

Adding small touches here and there, and finally...FINISHED! I tried to put everyone in it but sadly there's just not enough room. Hope you all enjoy it!!!

#Vanitas no Carte #the case study of vanitas #vnc #amv #amvedit #vanitas #noé archiviste #noe archiviste #dominique de sade #louis de sade #jeanne the hellfire witch #Chloé d'Alchier #jean jacques chastel #vanoé #vanoe #and so many relationships that i fail to tag

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good7luck · 10 months

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VNC manga chapter 57 spoilers

** my personal interpretations

Jeanne from JJ’s point of view (feat. Chloe & Noe, etc)

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I’ve seen some complaints “JJ/Chloe should’ve met Jeanne, too, not just Noe!”, which sometimes leads to “MJ-sensei must hate Jeanne” and/or “bad, misogynistic writing”.

I’m not a huge fan of Jeanne myself, but I don’t particularly hate to see her, and I really wouldn’t have minded getting more canon (positive) interactions between JJ/Chloe and Jeanne.

The thing is...

Chloe is fully asleep now, unable to chat anytime soon. And...

JJ and Jeanne are NOT that friendly two of them...yet, at least ^^;;

(more under the cut)

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Both JJ and Jeanne have a special history and bond with Chloe EACH, sure, but it doesn’t magically make the two friends, much less close ones (ex. Vani & Domi, over Noe / Noe & Olivier, over Roland). Both took Chloe’s hand together in the last minute to save their important Chloe. Before that, Jeanne was mostly, genuinely trying to kill JJ (the “Beast”) & Chloe (the supposed target), even if she wasn’t being 100% murderous, as she still believed the ”Beast” was her precious Chloe and so hesitated in her mind.

To JJ, Jeanne was the powerful and dreadful Bourreau who kept coming to murder his beloved & the innocent victim Chloe then and now again. No one else other than JJ has trusted Chloe’s innocence or tried to listen for so long (even aside from the evil mastermind Church). Honestly...we haven’t seen Jeanne apologize to JJ/Chloe for her huge misunderstandings and attempted murders...on screen, yet, at least (it might or might not appear in the future, who knows).

I think JJ, too, probably wasn’t being 100% murderous mainly because he knows Chloe still greatly misses Jeanne (even if he’s been always with Chloe, oops ^^;;). We haven’t seen JJ (NOT as the “Beast”) explicitly getting mad at Jeanne in canon, but I won’t be too surprised if he actually (still) feels jealous and angry at her deep inside ^^;; Perhaps also disappointed and frustrated at her that she never ever recognized or even had a single doubt (* she couldn’t, as a Bourreau, I know, but does JJ know?) that the not-even-very-Chloe-looking “Beast” (that was doing not-so-Chloe-things, be it Church or JJ) was possibly never Chloe.

In the manga, JJ wanted to save the utter stranger Noe all because Noe protected JJ (the “Beast”) from Jeanne (I’m not sure but I think the anime cut this part out), even if he didn’t even know why Noe came here yet. It’s hard for me to believe JJ is suddenly on good terms with Jeanne sincerely, ignoring all their long, negative past...even if they finally saved Chloe together ^^;;

On the other hand, JJ and Noe are much more the close friends (though JJ ended up assaulting Noe in the castle). To JJ, Noe is his actual first friend (other than Chloe), never Jeanne. That’s why JJ decided to come to see Noe (and the doctor Vani) specifically, to give his thanks (and apology for the assault), even if it’s obviously too dangerous when JJ/Chloe are officially “wanted”, as both Vani and Dante explicitly complained.

My point is NOT that “Um, Jeanne is in fact terrible, did you not know?” BUT that there have been simply not enough positive interactions only between JJ and Jeanne yet (or whatever possible causality), which would lead JJ to voluntarily go see her, despite all the dangers.

If Chloe was awake and wanted to see Jeanne, then JJ probably would’ve done so. But if not? I just don’t see why JJ would personally “miss” Jeanne in general...and so it’s quite understandable to me that JJ didn’t risk the safety of himself (& Chloe) for Jeanne’s sake, especially when there was technically no (urgent) “need” ^^;;

I suppose Chloe already fell asleep like that before JJ got treated by Vani (when Jeanne was still around them!), so maybe JJ in ch 57 just didn’t have any word from Chloe to give to Jeanne particularly, cuz Chloe literally never woke up. If there was any, I think he would’ve already told Jeanne before they got separated in Gevaudan...?

There’s this, too: Again, JJ/Chloe are officially “wanted”.

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No hard feelings on Jeanne or Jeanne/Chloe or Jeanne/Chloe/JJ etc! Obviously not trying to discourage any fanwork creation, either...!

I get that it could be very frustrating not to see Jeanne/Chloe sweet reunion and proper closure on screen in canon, after their long and solid past got revealed in the very long arc. Still, personally I never expected to see NEW scenes from the old Gevaudan arc again at all, but surprisingly it happened in ch 57...so there might be more to come in the future, to reveal something unknown, for example. Not to mention MJ-sensei might be intentionally doing some tricks for her plans, like to bring some dark plot twist later XD

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This wasn’t supposed to be this long OTL

Thanks for reading my personal interpretations and opinions!!

#vanitas no carte #vanitas no shuki #vnc #les memoires de vanitas #the case study of vanitas #vnc spoilers #vanitas no carte spoilers #vnc jeanne #vnc jj #jean jacques chastel #vnc jean jacques #jeanne the hellfire witch #vnc theory #kinda #vnc chloe #chloé d'apchier #not tagging everyone #good7luck

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retracexcviii · 2 years

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Chloé d'Alchier

Yes, another edit I made

No, it's not the last one

#vanitas no carte #vnc #the case study of vanitas #chloé d'apchier #edits #my edit #really i should take a break about editing #i will probably write some theories

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neversetyoufree · 2 days

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Alright. Okay.

So the entire time I've been reading VnC, I've been assuming that Noé is the sole known survivor of the Archivistes in a relatively normal way. I've been assuming that something happened to the Archiviste clan within Noé's lifetime, just before his human "grandparents" found him in the snow. Obviously I wondered about what happened—who slaughtered them if they were killed and what else might have happened if they aren't all dead as we've been told, but I never questioned the timeline. I assumed that the Archivistes must have been alive and kicking until recently, even if Noé's last remaining family was living in hiding from the rest of vampire society or something like that.

But. We don't actually know that that's true. We don't know a single thing about the timeline of the Archivistes' extermination other than what Nox says about them having all died "long ago." Noé is nineteen years old, and we have no idea how old Nox is. Could the fifteen to seventeen years between Noé's first adoption and the present day be enough to count as long ago?

This is Jun Mochizuki we're talking about. There is extensive precedent in her work (by way of Pandora Hearts) for characters turning up seemingly out of nowhere, often with no memory, and in Pandora Hearts, these cases never had a simple answer. It was always caused by the time-bending properties of the Abyss.

It is entirely within the realm of possibility for the rest of the Archiviste clan to have died years, decades, or even a century or more before Noé was found by his human grandparents. We don't have precedent yet for anything that messes with time in VnC like PH's Abyss, so I don't know how this could have happened, but I don't think we can fully discount the possibility. The outer bounds of world formula rewriting as a power are yet to be fully explored, so it's hard to say firmly that anything's impossible. There might be a way for Noé to exist in the present even if the rest of his clan was killed well over nineteen years ago (be it by PH style time-bending or by some entirely different mechanism).

It's still possible (and even likely) that the Archivistes died or disappeared less than twenty years ago, but it's not quite the concrete fact that I've been thinking of it as this entire time. It's entirely possible that Noé's backstory contains Mochizuki Timeline Fuckery, and now that I've had that thought, I can't unsee it. The author of Pandora Hearts going out of her way to say that her protagonist was found mysteriously alone and crying with no memory of how he got that way is. conspicuous as hell.