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#tobias hawthorne hate club
x-liv25-jamieswife · 19 days
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averyjameson rant (that might make zero sense)
i've seen that a lot of fans have speculated that their codeword, tahiti, was created as a result of one of their fights, but i'd honestly like to talk more about it. (this is kinda rushed and all over the place btw) (also not proof read which at this point really isn't a surprise)
tahiti is a codeword they use whenever they want the other to be honest with them so, it would only make sense for them to have had issues with being honest and communication in the past which resulted in the creation of this codeword. i think their issues with communication stems from their individual trauma so i'd like to talk about that for a second.
avery grew up with literally no one in her corner except for her mother, max, and libby. max moved away the summer before 8th grade, and, then, at fifteen, her mother died. she was pretty much left with libby (and max thanks to her phone). avery hates burdening people with her issues. i remember a scene in tig (i believe, though it might be thl) where libby asked her who took care of her, and she immediately started telling herself that she's only a burden, and that, basically, she doesn't deserve help. avery also hates being vulnerable. to her, vulnerability = weakness. growing up the way she did and with everything she's been through, i think it makes perfect sense for her to think so. allowing herself to feel things could've potentially ruined everything for her with everything she had on her plate (work, school, surviving, etc) by distracting her. then, she inherited the money, and she went from having two people in her corner, to, like, ten. this is a huge change, and would obviously take some adjusting. i think she's never allowed herself to open up in fear of people leaving ("the trick to being abandoned was to never let yourself long for anybody who left" idk when she said this).
after years of believing she couldn't rely on anyone, obviously it would cause issues for her with jameson. after all, it takes a long time to work through trauma. bc of all of this, i feel like the beginning of their relationship would be a little bumpy (with jameson trying to get her to open up, and avery not knowing how/being scared to).
jameson has his own share of problems. with everything that happened with emily, and the gaslighting tobias hawthorne put him through, i think he's afraid of people leaving him bc they don't think he's good enough. i feel like he'd think the same way avery does when it comes to opening up (it burdens people, they might leave me, i don't like being vulnerable, etc). i mean jamie spent so long drinking away his problems and pretending he was absolutely fine and unaffected after the emily fiasco (i fucking hate that bitch with my entire being). some people believe that jameson wasn't really affected by what happened with emily when in reality he was. just because he didn't respond to trauma the same way grayson did doesn't mean it isn't there.
obviously they're perfect together so they managed to work through it. over time i feel like they learned to truly trust each other, and started opening up more frequently. obviously, like i said, their issues caused fights, but they worked through all of them. i believe that after one of these fights, the codeword was created (they might have been in tahiti when it happened, and that's why the code word is tahiti).
anyways i really enjoyed talking about their trauma, and i might make some more in depth posts about it (bc their trauma is SOOO overlooked) (probably after i reread the books unless i become to impatient). i apologize if this doesn't make sense or if there are spelling mistakes, like i said it's kinda rushed and i wrote most of this at like 3:00am last night. if anyone has some more theories about the codeword i'd really like to hear them. hope this post wasn't too boring.
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x-liv25-jamieswife · 17 days
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Could you make Alice and Tobias headcanons if you haven't already?
alice and tobias head canons
of course <3! ok this one might be despressing cause i feel like, while tobias loved her, he was also kinda toxic which made her leave. all of this is mostly speculation cause we don't really know either of them. hope you like them!
tobias obviously made her little puzzle gifts
his rich ass bought her everything she wanted (but she never took it for granted. sometimes she would tell him that he didn't need to buy all of these things for her but he insisted).
tobias loved eating candy so alice would go out and buy him some often.
tobias obviously knew alice was still alive (he somehow knows everything), but he still visited her 'grave' because he loves her so much and likes reminders of her
one of the reasons why alice left was because of how much time he spent working and how little time he spent with her (unless this was all part of a bigger plan)
they used to dance in the living room or in their rooms to classical music while laughing
alice has known tobias her entire life. they were sort of childhood friends
alice is the one that convinced tobias to adopt toby.
she absolutely despised the laughlins and tobias found her hatred for them adorable
the reason alice used to own so much jewelry was because tobias used to buy her some really often (like once a week)
both of alice's pregnancies were really hard on her. she wanted a boy and that's why they adopted toby.
speaking of alice's pregnancies, she used to have the weirdest cravings ever and tobias used to wonder if something was wrong with her.
tobias loved to receive cuddles from his wife.
alice had a love/hate relationship with his games and riddles. she also didn't like how manipulative he could be.
she used to bring him coffee to his office every single morning without fault unless he was out of the country or she was somehow not able to do it
they used to love to travel. they loved to visit those old abandoned mansions/castles (not haunted but just castles that used to be owned by rich influential people but are still being taken care of) (i love it too)
alice loved antique things, so tobias made sure to buy her some every once in a while
alice actually designed most of the house. not the actual layout, but the furniture and stuff.
they both loved to journal so they'd do it together at night
they used to have arguments about how little time he spent with her and how he was literally married to his work. as they neared her departure, the fights became more common.
tobias didn't like tying his own tie so he'd make alice do it
he loved her smile more than anything. he'd do anything to see it.
alice loved collecting vinyls. sometimes she'd gush about them and tobias used to love to hear her rant
speaking of ranting, she would do it all the time about anything. whenever anything happened she would tell tobias. he was the #1 person she'd go to talk to and alice was the same to tobias
ok this only applies if alice was present at the beginning of nash's life, but alice hated the way he spoke about how nash would be the heir apparent (at first i think he thought his oldest would be the heir apparent and not the second child) and how much pressure he was already putting on him. this was one of the reasons she left (unless, like i said, tobias and her planned it cause of the way tobias said in tbh when jamie asked what alice would think about smth (i don't remember what) and he responded with you'll see)
he used to love kissing her cheek and forehead. she loved it to.
alice sometimes debated leaving (long before she actually did) because, although she loved him, he also hurt her.
tobias would give her massages at the end of a long day.
alice would buy him colognes all the time. he'd make her guess which one he was wearing in the mornings.
their first kiss was really awkward (like teeth clashing, noses bumping against each other, etc). they laughed about it often until she left.
this post made me fall in love with them and their story which we literally know nothing about. not proof read (as always)!
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