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slavhew · 2 months

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Hello!

If you're not too busy, would you mind listing some of the things you think count as death flags for Mr. Spender?

There's the obvious fact that he's the "old" mentor to group of young protagonists, but what else do you think would count?

OHH BOY ok so I'd think I'm a crackpot for this but since we're talking about Zack "Foreshadowing" Morrison. I have some thoughts

No harm in leading with the (chronologically) first thing that jumped out at me:

This one IMMEDIATELY made me antsy whenever I came back to it after my initial read, and considering Zack has referred to it on twitter in the past as one of their favorite jokes it's definitely not been forgotten about.

Second, the sheer amounts of near-misses, jokey or not, of Spender narrowly avoiding specifically lightning

Again, not much, but it's weird that it happened thrice, latter two of which had real gravitas rather than an one-off joke.

And third, Spender himself. He's repeatedly shown himself to be kind of a self sacrificing idiot, as well as prideful to a fault. Granted, it's both him and Mina trying to take on all the responsibility of saving Mayview and its inhabitants from their fate.. But Spender is exactly that right measure of doesn't-value-himself-enough (chest footprint aftercare or lack thereof), having an obscene amount of power (enables his loner act + pride) and poor judgement that has the capacity to put him at great risk. And it has!

Spender has not only shown low enough self-esteem to view himself as the de-facto scapegoat for the safety of the town, but also prideful enough to make very bad calls that end up in people, often himself, hurt (COUGH FORGE INCIDENT COUGH)

This is all conjecture, but it's definitely enough to make me worried about him :') Even if all this doesn't mean he'll necessarily die he's definitely getting (even more) seriously injured at some point. I love the guy but he's so far doing a horrible job of convincing me he wants to live bad enough to circumvent at least that

#not art #admin answers #paranatural #pnat #richard spender #pts-fic-notes-and-blog #before i continue on with tag ramble i just want to say tysm for leaving an ask!#none of my friends read this so ive been stewing on these thoughts for some months and i loved finally sharing them #this isn't exactly proof but the hijack possession seemingly being the final nail in the coffin for his and isabel's relationship.#idk it feels significant to me. thats one more tether to support kinda gone. someone who knows him well enough to know he's unwell #he seems not exactly content but fr incapable of not burning bridges as he is now. and considering how rashly he acts he REALLY needs those #to not do stupid shit all the god damn time with no buffer other than Lucifer. who for his measured approach to rick's hotheadedness #has honestly shown himself to be pretty lenient and kinda bad at controlling spender's more (self) destructive tendencies? so he dont count #to be clear i love spender to bits but he is dumb as rocks and has all the self preservation of a fruit fly. it needs to be said #also the lightning man... idk its WEIRD like especially on the reread its the thing that most consistently threatens him! it repeats #sure he gets chewed by a bat and banged up by forge but?? he somehow always comes back to lightning. catnine has it out for him #its something i didnt even really put together until i continued reading the flashback chapter AFTER getting this ask and went OHHHGNHF #which the only reason lightning is such a non issue is lucifer's powers. which belong to his sunglasses and not to the spirit in him #so its not like they can't be taken away he's just got a really good excuse for having those on all the time #TAGS GETTING SO LONG. ANYWAYS. i hope this is comprehensible lol

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sirengenerator · 6 years

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odd numbers for a baby of ur choice... or many babies... it is up to u

thank u for the ask!! i’ll answer these for troye and florence.

1. Does your character have siblings or family members in their age group? Which one are they closest with?

troye is the youngest of nine sons, and thus the baby of the family even as a grown man. he’s closest with his second-oldest brother joey, who is an arts student and a Good Brother™ to troye, always ready to support his endeavors, even though troye isn’t really sure what he wants to do with his future.

florence has a twin but that situation is a big mess. antoni is one big repressed memory, but if florence was aware of who they were she’d probably consider them closest to her. achilles is sort of a sibling figure to her, in a best friend way. and honestly florence would love if they were actually her sibling.

3. What is/was your character’s relationship with their father like?

troye has a good relationship with his dad! there are very clear similarities between the two, (gail is like an Old Dad version of troye) and they’ve always gotten along.

florence never really got to know her dad, since her family situation was sort of loosely defined and cult-ish. he was moreso the guy who helped sire her rather than an actual father. florence doesn’t really have any relevant parental figures.

5. On an average day, what can be found in your character’s pockets?

troye: peppermint-flavored gum, his keys, his wallet full of pictures of his girlfriends, his phone, and probably a crumpled receipt from any store he’d been to that day.

florence: lint, a dollar coin. some quarters, and a cool rock she found on the sidewalk.

7. Does your character have recurring themes in their nightmares?

troye: losing loved ones, being forgotten. at several points he’s had a nightmare where he was inflicted with laila’s siren curse and it really messed with him. a lot of his nightmares take place on beaches at night and in other dark spaces.

florence: being abandoned, being betrayed. the latter is a relatively new fear for her, since she didn’t really allow herself to trust others until she started seeing laila and troye. ever since, she’s kind of paranoid that they might betray her someday, though she realizes it’s kind of an irrational fear.

9. Is your character’s current socioeconomic status different than it was when they were growing up?

not really! when he was growing up his parents would often be tight on money since raising nine kids isn’t the easiest on the wallet. nowadays, he isn’t super well off but he manages fine. he’s a bit of a compulsive spender.

florence wasn’t worth much as a kid and she isn’t worth much now considering she has no job and is also low tier scalie.

11. In what situation was your character the most afraid they’ve ever been?

laila has thrown herself into danger several times and troye never stops being afraid for her. it’s bad for his blood pressure, honestly. as for a specific situation, i don’t really know in terms of what scared him the most, but probably something related to laila’s Blind Overconfidence.

florence was most afraid when her tribe was split apart, not really knowing what to do without them or how to really grow out of the rhetoric she was taught. she’d learn to adjust later, but that was a big point of confusion for her.

13. Is your character bothered by the sight of blood? If so, in what way?

troye really hates the sight of blood, but doesn’t really react much aside from a lot of discomfort and disgust. he thinks things inside your body should stay there, ideally.

florence doesn’t care about and is unfazed by blood. being a man-eating monster’ll do that to ya.

15. Is your character preoccupied with money or material possession? Why or why not?

troye believes money and happiness are fundamentally separate, and while he appreciates having money because it’s pretty useful when it comes to living and all, he thinks happiness really boils down to having people you care about, not how much you’re paid.

florence loves material possession and owning things, especially if her things are the shiniest out of other things. at the same time, she doesn’t really understand the concept of currency and generally just likes having nice stuff without realizing that nice stuff costs $$$

17. What was your character’s favorite toy as a child?

troye didn’t get attached to any toys but he did get really attached to his childhood blanket, which he brought everywhere. it’s lilac and remains in a closet in his childhood room.

florence didn’t really have any childhood toys.

19. What is your character’s biggest relationship flaw? Has this flaw destroyed relationships for them before?

troye’s biggest flaw is that he’s kind of a pushover and he has a hard time saying no to anyone, and he hates to disappoint people. this leads to a lot of relationships that are really imbalanced.

he also gets really committed to people really fast, and while it’s not necessarily a bad thing it does tend to make a relationship seem rushed and when he reflects on it, he realizes he put a lot of expectations on said relationship.

florence, on the other hand, has a really hard time putting her trust in others and commitment is a really scary concept to her. because of this, the closest she’s really had to a “relationship” before laila and troye are a couple unrelated and meaningless flings.

she also didn’t really believe a relationship between a human and a siren could possibly sustain itself without falling apart before she started dating her partners, so that was kind of an obstacle.

21. If something tragic or negative happens to your character, do they believe they may have caused or deserved it, or are they quick to blame others?

troye’s first instinct is to think he did something wrong, and he has a hard time accepting it if the blame falls on someone else close to him.

florence is quick to blame anyone else for anything that happens to her, which leads to a lot of misplaced anger and grief. to be honest, anything truly traumatic most likely becomes one of florence’s repressed memories.

23. What does your character dislike in other people?

troye doesn’t like when other people have an inability to communicate in a relationship, a lack of respect for others wishes, or when people are extra-pessimistic.

florence doesn’t like elitism, which is kind of funny considering she grew up in a purity-cult. she also doesn’t appreciate when people are rude to her at all, and she holds grudges easily because of that.

25. How quick is your character to suspect someone else? Does this change if they are close with that person?

troye has a really hard time blaming other people, especially if he knows them really well. if he becomes suspicious of someone it usually has to be based on really convincing evidence.

florence is always quick to place the blame on someone, though her suspicion is often based on gut instinct.

27. How does your character normally deal with confrontation?

troye’s first instinct when it comes to confrontation is to try and talk out whatever it is the disagreement is based on. he doesn’t like violence at all and tries to avoid it when he can.

florence deals with confrontation via fists. meet her in the pit if you have a problem. ideally, if fists aren’t an option then maybe she’ll consider talking it out.

29. What did your character dream of being or doing as a child? Did that dream come true?

as a little kid, troye dreamed of being the long-lost prince of a mysterious and vaguely european country. he also entertained being an actor with a for a while as an older kid with a more solid grasp of “realistic aspirations.” neither of those dreams really panned out.

currently, he’s kind of undecided in what he wants to do with his future.

florence really just wanted to be happy and carefree when she was older. this dream has come true, sort of. at least, after she got over all the complications of her life on the surface.

31. Describe a scenario in which your character feels most comfortable.

concept: troye is sitting on a couch with his gfs, watching a dumb romantic comedy. laila is loudly eating popcorn and making blunt commentary on the contrived elements of the movie. florence laughs at any and all physical humor. he is very in love with the both of them. he can’t stop smiling.

humorous concept directly lifted from florence’s charahub page: florence, sitting on a throne. she is being fanned by two admirers, and worshipped by two more. she is eating a raw onion, and no one questions it at all.

actual concept for florence: she’s spread out on the couch, comfortably wrapped in blankets. laila hands her a hot chocolate and gives her a quick kiss on the cheek. she isn’t wearing terrible and oppressive construct known as pants.

33. In the face of criticism, is your character defensive, self-deprecating, or willing to improve?

troye had a big problem with being self-deprecating for a long time and nowadays he tries to focus on getting better instead of putting himself down, and takes criticism best as he can.

florence is either super defensive or super unaffected based on what is being criticized. if it’s something she’s legitimately insecure about, she becomes very defensive, but typically her inflated sense of confidence keeps that from happening.

35. How does your character behave around people they like?

troye is absolutely giddy hanging around his crushes, and he’s incredibly obvious to anyone with eyes. he tries his best to be subtle but “being subtle” in troye’s vocabulary is limited to not confessing his feelings on the spot. lucky for him, laila couldn’t read someone’s feelings for her if a brick was thrown at her detailing them, and florence shows interest from day one.

florence actually gets really frustrated if she genuinely likes someone. she finds it kind of scary, letting someone have any amount of sway over her decisions or infatuation.

37. Is your character more concerned with defending their honor, or protecting their status?

troye is more concerned about defending his honor, i think. he values his good reputation and doesn’t want people to think bad things about him.

florence couldn’t give a rat’s ass about what people think about her if they aren’t a close friend, and she doesn’t have much of a status to begin with, but she’ll defend herself to the people closest to her.

39. Has your character ever been bitten by an animal? How were they affected (or unaffected)?

troye was bitten by his family dog at age ten and cried for hours about it at the time. it didn’t really have any lasting affects though, and he loves that dog to death.

florence is regularly bitten by mosquitoes but otherwise she hasn’t been bitten by like, an actual mammal or anything. she was once stung by a jellyfish and it made her kinda pissed. how dare this evil bag sting her.

41. Does your character feel that they deserve to have what they want, whether it be material or abstract, or do they feel they must earn it first?

troye believes he should earn the things that he wants, and doesn’t want things to just be handed to him.

florence loves handouts, but she doesn’t pretend to deserve any of them. she kind of believes life is very luck-based, and she is very new to actually earning good things rather than just stumbling upon them.

43. Has your character ever had a dependent figure who was not related to them?

i can’t really think of one for troye, actually. i feel like he definitely had big influences in his life based on his relationships, particularly one with a boy he’d been pining over for a while that didn’t work out, but i don’t think there are any big names.

florence’s dependent figure is achilles, who is a very good friend to her and someone she really trusts to know the best for her, or at least advise her on how to live a healthy life.

44. What does your character believe will happen to them after they die? Does this belief scare them?

troye is jewish and has a sort of ambiguous on the idea of an afterlife. ideally, he’d like to believe that there’s somewhere huge and beautiful and grand that he’ll go after he dies, but he also doesn’t really know if that’s his actual belief or just what he’d like to happen. death doesn’t really scare him, but the permanence of it is sort of unnerving.

florence doesn’t really connect herself to a religion, but she was taught a belief in the greek gods and has an ambiguous belief in them. her belief in an afterlife isn’t very well-defined and a big part of her is suspicious that after she dies she’s probably just. you know. Be Dead. she isn’t really scared of it at all. it’s the natural course of all living things. she’d prefer to enjoy her life on earth while it lasts.

#enclave #florence tag #troye tag

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