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purplehalnw · 2 days
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So, a few weeks ago I finished watching the Chibnall Era, aka the 13th Doctor's seasons, of Doctor Who. And while it was not as bad as I heard some people say it was, it was definitely not good. The main problem is that it's just kind of boring, like the characters are so underwritten that it's insane. So, I came up with some ideas (a lot of which are mostly rambling) to flesh these people out some more most of which are based on factors that the show alluded to but failed to expand upon and use for actual characterization and development. Now please remember, I am most certainly not an expert in any type of writing, I am just a teenager with a dream.
Graham:
-Have his wife Grace be around for more than one episode before dying. Have her around for at least half a season travelling with the Doctor and have her death result in the Doctor feeling guilty for putting her in danger and not being able to save her. Have Ryan be angry at the Doctor because of Grace's death while having Graham be understanding and not blame the Doctor. But then have Graham reassure Ryan that they all were aware of the risks that would come with travelling with the Doctor and that Grace died doing what she loved which was helping people.
-Have his cancer come back and have him die from it. I think it would be interesting for a companion to die from something more normal when other ones have died in the most devastating ways possible. Also, this kind of death would extend over multiple episodes which would show the characters developing reactions to the fact that Graham is going to die. You could also have something with the Doctor trying to make sure that Graham has lived a full life before he dies and trying to take him on as many adventures as possible due to the fact that the other companions who died were so young. But, have Graham tell the Doctor that he is content with the mostly quiet life he has lived and that he has accepted the fact that he is going to die because at least he'll be going to the same place where Grace is.
Ryan:
-Have Ryan feel kinda inclined to mend the relationship with his dad because he is the only blood relative he has left since Grace died. But don't have him reconcile with his father at the end. This'll instead be the moment Ryan accepts Graham as a father figure and calls Graham his grandfather. This plus his relationship with Yaz and the Doctor will emphasize the idea of a found family.
-Have his dyspraxia be touched upon more than just with throwaway lines about how he can't ride a bike and struggles with climbing ladders. Show him possibly being underestimated by some other characters maybe Graham and show the frustration that would come with that. Also, have the Doctor relate to him because of her neurodivergence which would strengthen their bond.
-Show flashbacks of how Yaz and Ryan were friends when they were in school. Maybe show how they both felt like outcasts, with Ryan feeling that way due to his dyspraxia and Yaz feeling that way due to her struggles with her sexuality and that being the reason why they became friends.
-Make Ryan's YouTube channel a greater part of his character instead of something that never gets brought up again after his first episode. Have him constantly record his adventures with the Doctor and upload them to YouTube to honor Grace in a way. Also, when Graham dies of cancer, have Ryan upload a video summarizing all of the amazing things he did with Graham which would be a great callback to what he did when Grace died.
Yaz:
-Don't have her sexuality be something that only gets barely acknowledged in the last few episodes.
-Maybe Yaz and Ryan dated while they were in school but they broke up because of Yaz's lack of feelings towards him due to her sexuality and that's why they grew apart. Also, Ryan should be the one to confront Yaz about her feelings towards the Doctor.
-They sort of implied that Yaz has some internalized homophobia. So, expand on that! They had Jack there for a minute, they could've used his bisexuality and feelings towards the Doctor or just the Doctor's nonchalantness towards gender as a way for Yaz to accept herself more. Like a big thing with Doctor Who companions is the Doctor showing them things they didn't even think were possible, the same would be true for Yaz but in a different way.
-So, Yaz is a cop. They kind of touched on the issues surrounding this in Rosa but they quickly brushed it off and it was never brought up again, and her job in general barely even plays much of a role, like she literally just quits off screen near the end. Obviously, you could make her being a cop a source of ongoing conflict because I know that the Doctor would be ACAB. The Doctor could challenge Yaz's beliefs regarding the police system, similar to how she challenged Yaz's ideas regarding gender and sexuality.
The Doctor:
-On paper I'm not really against the Timeless Child or the Flux but please just give them more time.
-Show us some lore regarding who the Doctor thought was her biological family so that we can understand how she's feeling more.
-Give more time to her confronting Tecteun. Literally, I was so excited seeing the Doctor argue with her about whether it was right for Tecteun to take her in but it only lasts for like five fucking minutes.
-Also, they used the Timeless Child as a way to sort of explain the Doctor's autistic behavior. In fact, the writers even said they intentionally wrote her as autistic and there are several scenes where they emphasize how socially awkward she is. Okay then why not have some allegories for neurodivergence? Why not equate the whole Timeless Child thing to getting an autism diagnosis? Why not use the Doctor as a way to show how autistic men are treated differently than autistic women with her being eccentricities being met with more hostility than when she was a man? Or why not just have one of the companions, maybe Ryan, explicitly acknowledge how the way she acts aligns with autism?
-Oh and that thing they had about the Doctor refusing to form strong relationships because they know that they'll likely end tragically? Yeah maybe spend more than three goddamn episodes barely acknowledging that. Like I wouldn't mind the story 13th Doctor and her companions ending tragically with her pushing them away and leaving them on Earth long enough that they've gone back to their normal lives and have realized that there's nothing they can do except hope that the Doctor is able to sort out her shit on her own.
-Oh and also don't confine the Flux to just six episodes. Like at least hint to that shit around the same time as the Timeless Child.
Also, I don't think all of the companions should be travelling with the Doctor every episode. Like a few episodes sprinkled in there where the others are staying at home and only like one or two of the companions are travelling with the Doctor this time. This way you can have episodes hyper focused on certain characters without worrying about giving the others something to do.
I have considered doing a rewrite of these seasons or something but again I'm not an expert writer. The only fic I've ever written is a 2,000 word character study and that one took me a long time to write because of how much a perfectionist I am.
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causalityparadoxes · 4 months
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Once again i am absolutely LIVING for Russell doubling down on The Timeless Child and giving it the emotional weight it DESERVES
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michaelo2k · 7 months
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Yes I’m tumblr posting about Doctor Who in 2023
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donutdrawsthings · 3 months
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I just finished the Flux storyline and it makes me so upset they introduced this cool idea to us and then IMMEDIATELY took it away again the next episode!! The Doctor turning into a weeping angel would have been such a cool plot point!!
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geronimomo-spd · 4 months
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ok but 15 dealing with Ruby's mom tangent about "not wanting an actual adopted child, how troublesome that is" as a parallel to the Tecteun tangent she told the doctor how much everything is her fault... right after connecting to his inner trauma of being adopted into a scoiety that just used him, having to in his own way change the game?? to make Ruby have a diffrent fate then his??? obsessed
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thefiresofpompeii · 12 days
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the ninth doctor trusted rose enough to believe she would stay with him after his face changed. and twelve took some convincing but towards the end of deep breath accepted that clara would stay by his side no matter how old he looked. but thirteen was so used to losing people. her previous self had loved clara and lost her, he had looked after bill and failed to save her, he had tried to redeem missy and (to his knowledge) lost that cause too. no wonder she wouldn’t trust yaz to stay for her fourteenth face. no wonder she believed she ‘had to do this next part alone’. she had grown quietly distant with the new knowledge that she was no longer even an ordinary gallifreyan, not something of this universe, but outside of it, alien even to the aliens. isolated and inaccessible, standing on an invisible pedestal her ancestors placed her on — a pedestal that more resembled a cage. glass walls on all sides like the forced regeneration chamber. thin glass wall between her and yaz now, transparent but too solid to break through. harder than azbantium when there’s no solid footing to stand on.
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of course yaz would run when she saw her new self. of course she would leave. companions would never stay now, they would never fully understand. when thirteen said that she would need to do ‘this next part’ alone, by ‘next part’ she meant ‘the rest of her (potentially eternal) life’. it’s the classic gambit: push the one you love away before they get the chance to reject you. because they always will, now. either that or they die in horrible circumstances. better to flee like you’ve always done.
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this is why the bigeneration was a narrative necessity, why the giggle was the perfect vision of a positive finale. the original version of the doctor gets to settle down with people that he won’t lose. people that he won’t turn away from. people whose hearts he won’t inevitably break. he’s sitting there in the back yard and he’s not going anywhere…
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…yet somewhere out there in sheffield lives a police officer named yazmin khan. she’s not all sunshine and rainbows — all cops are bastards, after all. sometimes she takes her nameless rage out on a shoplifting suspect. sometimes she hands a parking ticket to a kid that didn’t deserve it. and sometimes she does genuine good for the community, sometimes she goes to the club and dances with strangers, sometimes she sits on the sofa and watches a documentary about space exploration and laughs at the painful inaccuracies. and many miles south, the doctor spends time with his family, but he’ll never get the courage to visit her. because she’d want to run away with him again. and he could never give her that, not anymore. anything but running.
yazmin khan loved the universe in the eyes of her doctor. oh, that doctor in the garden? the stay-at-home-doctor? he’s brilliant, but he would never be enough for her. his presence would never replace the cosmic vistas and myriads of stars thirteen gave her. and she’s never coming back
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wykart · 5 months
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"Hiding behind a visual projection shield. And this one shows us what we instinctively want to protect, as a defense."
This parallel from 'The Power of the Doctor' knocked me on my ass but then I didn't finish this off for like a year, so...here it is! It was nice to get back to my roots (the Squiggles).
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master-missysversion · 3 months
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I've been thinking about River and The Timeless Child, and I think it would be funny if the timeless child was actually just a human from a parallel universe where humans figured out and were proficient at time travel and so babies were often conceived in the vortex. And for whatever reason, conception and pre-natal exposure in the vortex causes them to develop regeneration and any other adaptation the timelords gained from the child
I just think there would be a real beautiful sense of irony in the timelords and the master especially looking down on humans only for it to be humanity that allowed their empire to flourish. And also that the person who most resembles the original blueprint of what makes someone a timelord, is River Song. I think both of these revelations would piss off the master hugely
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anifandoms · 4 months
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I know i'm insane for this BUT CMON NOW???
Untraceable parents??? The Doctor not going after the lady to find out who she is?
If 15 knew how much finding out Ruby's mom meant, then surely he would've gone after her to at least get a glimpse, right?????
I mean...he did went back in time to take pictures of Bill's mom
SO WHY NOT DO THE SAME WITH RUBY'S MOM???
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marlinspirkhall · 6 months
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The Master saying he "had to" burn Gallifrey after finding out what they'd done was actually kinda sweet if you think about it. Defending the Doctor's honor. Obviously he then tried to murder her, but, still, it's the thought that counts.
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wideeyedsmile · 5 months
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HUGE DOCTOR WHO SPOILERS IF YOU HAVE NOT WATCHED THE THIRD 60TH ANNIVERSARY SPECIAL THAN LOOK AWAY
I have a theory
Okay SO I think bigeneration is RTD taking the timeless child and running with it.
So the doctor, right as they split, goes "But bigeneration is a myth!" Or something along those lines. But where would that myth come from, realistically? Probably from a pre-mind wipe doctor. They had already regenerated a solid chunk of times, its possible one of those times resulted in bigeneration, leading the timelords to wonder "shit is that possible? Can we do that?" With the answer likely being "no" due to their man-made regenerations vs the doctors natural ones. For all we know, this is how the doctor's actual species reproduces. All that being said however, some of you just noticed a flaw: "Where the fuck is the other doctor then?"
Well, they probably had to track down that version, de-age them, and wipe their mind too, as they had all the doctor's memories up until their split, and if they found their other half than the whole plan would be messed up. Its likely they were de-aged at the same time and went to live their respective childhoods. Maybe even ran into eachother. Became friends.
Became enemies.
Listen all I'm saying is RTD could do the funniest possible thing and make the Master a bigeneration of the Doctor. ALL I'M SAYING.
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mndvx · 4 months
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She chose to rescue the foundling, and adopt this refugee from another realm as her own. Together they explored the universe. The Child grew older. And finally, Tecteun returned to Gallifrey with her new child. DOCTOR WHO – The Timeless Children (S12E10)
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incorrigible-groupie · 4 months
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No wonder why Fourteen is the reincarnation that needs to heal, that needs to stop, that needs to retire… considering everything that happened to Thirteen.
Every reincarnation had their hard moments, but I feel like Thirteen really went through A LOT.
After all :
she fell from her TARDIS just after she regenerate
she had to fight evil while still regenerating, a thing the Doctor rarely did with new people around
she had to make her sonic screwdriver herself
she lost her TARDIS (almost twice)
she made a friend she can never see again or it would destroy the universe
she had to face the consequences of her mercy
she learnt that the one who once was her friend is back
also yes, Gallifrey is destroyed
also also, she discovered she had other regenerations but zero memories about it
also also also, she learnt that she wasn’t from the dimension she had always known
she was so knock-out by this new that she didn’t try to escape from prison
she spent A FEW DECADES in prison
surrounded by some of her worst enemies
while trying to find more about her past, the Flux was coming
she learnt that she was the reason the Flux was created
until she ended the Flux, she didn’t take a break
she was splint in three
one of herself was tortured physically and mentally, mind and body destroyed and reborn over and over again
she had to see the erasure of multiple planets and species
everything she knew about time were lies
while struggling with her feelings towards a human she knew she couldn’t grow with, some of her ex-companions reappeared
she had been forced regenerated
while trying to free one of the great mysteries of the universe, her nemesis used it to wound her fatally
she regenerated alone, not wanting Yaz to be the new Rose, or Clara
I loved how caring, dynamic, curious and positive this incarnation was, despite the fact that she had no idea Who she was herself. It showed a vulnerability in the Doctor that we don’t often see and her lack of hubris was refreshing (considering it was the thing I hated the most about Ten).
Even if those seasons had many, many inconsistencies, unclear timelines and strange ideas, I loved her era and how Russel T Davies showed her trauma through Fourteen’s eyes, proving that this was the last straw that broke the Doctor in two (hehe) and how much he needed to rest. It was an astounding performance by David Tennant who didn’t act like Ten but indeed like Fourteen, it was positively insane.
However, I’m also really scared that Russel just throws away everything else that happened to Thirteen. Especially the good. Fourteen does have a family now, but he better not forgets his « fam ». He better not forgets he was a brilliant woman. Perhaps the strongest doctor.
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gallifreyanhotfive · 4 months
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Oh but you know Carla Sunday would SQUARE UP if she ever met Tecteun.
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thefiresofpompeii · 2 months
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lines that are awesome when divorced from context. as in, yes, this is technically true, but not because of the fucking timeless child. all he is is because of her — and all she is is because of him. to say i’m pissed off at this retcon would be an understatement. in one fell swoop it negates all of the history between them, the way their childhood shaped them and their rivalry, only to say “yeah the doctor is special and more important than the master because they’re the Chosen One” cheapens everything. makes it generic. defeats the point. how do you miss the point this horribly as a SHOWRUNNER
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