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#the cat isn't actually an official animal of the zodiac
soursoppi · 2 years
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been wanting to do some Chinese Zodiac-inspired MDZS art!
will be doing them in rows of 4~
Row 1: NHS/Cat - JGY/Mouse - NMJ/Ox - JC/Tiger - LXC/Rabbit
Row 2 >> | Row 3 >>
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giuliafc · 3 years
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Chinese horoscopes and Miraculous
Hi there!
I actually wrote this article for a Facebook group during the summer, but i had completely forgotten about it until I read the very in-depth analysis of Kagami's role in the series written by @geekgirles . There, she mentioned the bit in Ikari Gozen that had got me started on this research, so I thought why not? let's 'delight' you with this indepth analysis of the four characters of Marinette, Adrien, Luka and Kagami based on what we know of their zodiac signs in the Chinese horoscope. There are a couple of things that may surprise you.
First of all, let's put a lovely wee "keep reading" tag, so it doesn't clog your board, because it's a little long (ah, the understatement!)
Now. Here we are and if you clicked on carry on reading it means that you may be interested so... welcome welcome.
Apologies for the length
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Let's first of all talk about how the Chinese horoscope can give us a clue as of the characters age and date of birth.
In Ikari Gozen we find out that Marinette is a Snake in the Chinese horoscope. This narrows the search for her date of birth to two very precise years. 2013 or 2001. Now... counting that if she was born in 2013 she would be 7 now, it's most likely that she's born in 2001. In the French edition she is revealed instead to be a Leo. Which places her birthday in late July/beginning of August 2001. Kagami instead is revealed to be a Dragon, and a Scorpio, which places her birthday around November 2000. In an official Marinette’s Instagram post her birthday has been revealed as the 20th of November, IIRC.
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Now... not only this is a great deal of trivia information for us fans, which also helps us place the timeline of the story, which hasn't yet reached a full year in Canon from the start (in the Felix episode it's revealed that it's the first anniversary of Emilie’s disappearance. Hence in 3 series the story has advanced only by less than one year). It also helps up place the birthdays of some other characters.
Adrien for example. His birthday was series 1 episode 1, quite far from Marinette's birthday in Befana. So it's likely that he's a dragon like Kagami (which would also make sense thinking that Kagami is a character that mirrors Adrien's life and situation. But this isn't the place to discuss such thing, i refer to the very well developed article written by @geekgirles if you want to know more). A lot of people have theorised that he may be a Libra and be born maybe at the beginning of October, but of this I have no proof.
However, coming back to the Dragon sign it gets even more interesting, guys. If one of you have got more in-depth information and this comes up to be wrong I do apologise. I performed quite of an extensive research on the subject but of course I'm no astrologist so I can be wrong. That said... Not only the Dragon is considered the sign of the Emperor in the Chinese horoscope, and a lucky sign (ha). But 2000 is also the year of the Golden Dragon (metal). What better description than a golden dragon for our handsome sunshine?
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It gets even better when you get to the Dragon man's personality. Loves to be the centre of the attention. Natural flirts (ha! Touché Chat Noir!). Hot headed. Stubborn. Competitive. Naturally attracts money and women. Full of energy. Do I need any more proof that Adrien is a Dragon?
Let's see what the horoscope says about the Snake, and let's compare it to Marinette/Ladybug, so you understand why I'm pretty sure that the production looked this up quite in detail and that Chinese astrology can be at the base of our beloved characters.
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So the Snake woman is intuitive, intelligent, reserved and mysterious, has deep thinking, a mind that goes a mile per minute. Because they are smart and come quickly to solutions, they are great in crisis situations. They're able to step back and consider workable solutions. They are determined, sensual and smart and have innate wisdom. Doesn't this speak Marinette AND Ladybug from a mile?
Now... Luka. Until last week we weren’t really that sure of how old Luka was, Astruc had said that he was a couple of years older than Marinette, but Zag’s website had highlighted that Luka was Juleka’s twin brother which, counting that Juleka was in Marinette’s class, didn’t make any sense. But last weekend Astruc has actually confirmed that Juleka has repeated a year and that yes, Luka is her twin brother.
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Already before knowing this I had a look at the personality of the previous signs in the horoscope, and I had strong feelings that Luka may be a Rabbit, which would make him born in 1999 and one year older than Adrien. And this has been confirmed, so now we know. He is indeed a rabbit. Do you want proof? Rabbit men are calm, extraordinarily polite, and will do everything to avoid conflict. They have control over themselves and are sometimes conservatives. They can be considered a "yes-man", but have a line that they will never cross. They like organising, decorating, helping the wife/gf. They are great friends but don't like getting too close to someone. They are shy, introverted, honest, cuddle-lovers and attention givers. They are associated with the western sign of cancer, which is associated with the moon and the arts. Tell me if this doesn't speak Luka by a mile?
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Now a little bit of trivia that will make you laugh is... in the Chinese horoscope the cat doesn't exist. The legend says that Buddha invited the animals to a dinner, and the mouse tricked the cat and didn't wake him up, making him miss out on being chosen for the horoscope. However in TAIWAN things are different and the Cat takes the place of the RABBIT in the horoscope. The confusion seems to come from the old Chinese word for Rabbit, Mao, which sounds like the Taiwanese word for Cat Mau. So the sign of the Rabbit is also the sign of the Cat. Oh the irony!!
Snakes are yin energy. Rabbits are also yin energy. Dragons are yang energy.
But it gets better! Let's look at love compatibility, shall we? *rubs hands* hehe...
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Dragon man x Dragon woman (Adrien and Kagami) can be steamy and can work only if both have their own realm to shine on, because both are too competitive and can get into competition with each other. They love to be the centre of their world. They're great leaders but want the spotlight and don't settle for less. They're both independent and stubborn and their personality will clash, making it difficult to maintain the relationship going. They require a lot of love and admiration. They will never give in and apparently two dragons have a good physical relationship, mostly.
They CAN work together, but only if each has their own way to shine.
Sorry, Adrigami shippers.
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Dragon man x snake woman (Adrien and Marinette): they can be an excellent couple. They find each other physically attractive. The dragon is bold and full of energy, the snake is appealing in a more subtle way. Excellent romantic relationship, they both have strong personalities that attract each other. They share a degree of savoir-faire that prevents serious concerns. The male dragon will be tempted to stray, but he will know better than doing that, because he knows very well that his companion has hidden poisonous fangs (lol) and is VERY jealous... so he will look but not touch (the wise one will at least). Snake women love success and attention, but they're not as flashy as dragon men so they will be more subtle. Snake women are self-possessive, devoted and can give a good boost of confidence to a dragon man. She will be better at handling finances than him (that wouldn't surprise me in adrienette!). They both like fine things but Snake will teach Dragon to not overspend. Little trivia: the dragon was the sign of the emperor and the snake was the advisor. So they work very well in tandem. Their union will be full of passion and personal satisfaction.
Adrienette is in the stars, guys.
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Now last but not least... Snake woman x Rabbit/cat man (Luka and Marinette, but in a way even Chat Noir and Ladybug): very good couple too, they enjoy great conversation and have great time together. They make great friends. Snake loves the attention Rabbit gives and Rabbit is drawn by her sensuousness. They start as friends and have enticing conversations, which draws them together. When they start dating they realise they have similar tastes. They love cuddling in a hidden corner and will feel safe in their cosy nest to explore each other's sensuality. They can make a strong couple, unless their personalities start clashing. Rabbit can get annoyed at Snake's love for novelty and her extravagance, which may cause friction. If their temper clashes, they can't overcome differences.
So... Lukanette can work too, sorry guys. But as highlighted, it also works very well as a friendship. And sadly it's the same for Ladynoir...
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What I find funny in all of this is that, if this is true, Luka has the Snake miraculous, Marinette is a Snake sign, Luka is a cat sign, Adrien is a cat miraculous, Adrien and Kagami are a dragon sign, Kagami is a dragon miraculous... Jesus what a circle! Add to the mix Marinette as the RAT miraculous and we have a real laugh… (if any of you has ever watched Fruit Basket, the Japanese anime about the Chinese horoscope, you know perfectly well what I’m talking about!) and Snake/Rabbit as friends and potential couple works for both Lukanette AND Ladynoir, counting that rabbit = cat. And then you think about how Chat Noir bounces on his baton and you think "yes that's a rabbit, indeed"!
Any thoughts?
(apologies if this reflection doesn’t make sense to you!)
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coruscato · 5 years
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;; REP V. [ SEAN ]
TAGGED: ; believe the hype ; sean ; rep v.
OFFICIAL: City of New York SPECIES: Personification NAME: Sean Allen Bennett – He will still respond to names he's held previously as he has changed his name sporadically over the past centuries. SEXUAL ORIENTATION: Bisexual ROMANTIC ORIENTATION: Grayromantic GENDER: Transgender male PRONOUNS: he/him, they/them HEIGHT: 5'8" || 4'20" APPARENT AGE: 22 ACTUAL AGE: 398 – 1625 is the year that New Amsterdam was officially established as a town. CELEBRATED BIRTHDAY: April 17th. – There is no date given for 1625, so Sean chooses to celebrate his birthday on the supposed day that Giovanni da Verrazzano discovered the Hudson bay. ZODIAC SIGN: Aries RELIGION: Non-practicing Catholic OCCUPATION: Dance instructor; City representation PETS: A fluffy cat named Lulu. – She’s an emotional support therapy cat. MBTI TYPE: ESFP
PERSONALITY –
      RESILIENT. - ”Resilience is the ability to fall, pick ourselves up from the                            floor quickly, learn and continue with our journey.”       DETERMINED. - ”When you want to succeed as much as you                                           breathe then you will be successful.” -Eric Thomas.       BUSY. - ”I still find each day too short for all the thoughts I want to think, all                      the walks I want to take, all the books I want to read, and all the                            friends I want to meet.” -John Burroughs.       CREATIVE. - ”Creative people do not see things merely for what they are;                       they see them for what they can be.” -Julie Israel.       OPTIMIST. - ”I’m an optimist in the sense that I believe humans are noble                         and honorable, and some of them are really smart. I have a very                           optimistic view of individuals.” -Steve Jobs.
Of course, it would only make sense for such a city carrying the mantle of City of Dreams to take on those traits which inspires those around them to look ever upward, to reach for the sky, to conquer their goals.
Sean has always been, and will always be, an realistic optimist. There’s nothing outside of his reach and his attitude towards life is infectious. When one person achieves, why can another not?
This shines through especially at his dance studio. His soul aches when he see someone’s fire die out because he's experienced rough periods like that, but he's had centuries to recover and live through it– humans don’t.
He takes a surprisingly patient approach to those that are lost in their ways and those that critique themselves too harshly. When he says he believes in you, he isn't being facetious; he really does mean it.
There’s just something in the air in New York that has you always looking up– the garbage probably– but his eyes are on the sky and on the opportunities that the present provides that will hopefully lead to a future full of strength and possibilities.
Sean, however, has his feet firmly planted on the ground, recognizing that some situations sometimes won’t be available to him and others in that moment, but he's willing to persevere to accomplish even the most outlandish ideas.
He won’t be stopped by supposed conventions. There’s a fiery spirit inside this city and Sean will not let that light go dim again. He's lived through enough to learn to protect his heart while also giving that very same heart freely.
Where else can you feel more alive and alone than New York?
PHYSICAL APPEARANCE –
Faceclaim: Neymar Jr.
Animated Faceclaim: to be updated.
He has hazel eyes, which lean towards a mixture of a deeper brown and gold as well as dark brown, naturally curly hair, and tan skin. He has a straight, angular face, and a prominent nose.
SCARS –
History has not been kind to New York. There have been two fires in the city’s lifetime that have destroyed significant portions of the city, leading to Sean developing a fear of uncontrolled fire as well as a burn across his lower back and near his shoulder on his right arm. The Draft Riots of 1863 left him with a nick on the back of his neck while the terrorist attacks on 9/11 have left two deep gashes running on the front of his right thigh that, while healing, still have not faded from his body nor his mind.
HEALTH –
He suffers from bipolar depression, ADHD, PTSD, and chronic insomnia.
FASHION CHOICES –
Generally, he dresses in layers. He enjoys street style, with a particular soft spot for urban dance style. He also dresses in the newer yuppie fashion from time to time. Always got those fine ass Timbs on. Home? Yeah. Shower? Definitely. Digging his own grave? You got it.
SPEECH HABITS –
Sean talks by utilizing his whole body and a wide range of expressions to get his point across in a conversation while in a relaxed setting. When he's in a more formal setting, like an international city meeting, his expressions and body language are toned down to keep his cards close to his chest while still having that unique flare to his speech that their city is known for.
He doesn't take himself seriously in situations that don’t revolve around his city or business matters so he tends to speak out of his ass a lot by saying the first thing that’s on his mind, which leads to foot in the mouth syndrome. In a business setting and at his job, he does, however, tend to keep the impulsiveness in his speech patterns in check.
Sean does have a thick Bronx accent, but despite this, his accent is not as thick as it could be since the stereotypical accent we associate with New Yorkers tends to be more prevalent with blue collar workers rather than white collar workers like Sean.
LANGUAGE –
Back when New York was only a little trading outpost known as New Amsterdam, there were already 18 languages already spoken there. Now there’s over 800 languages spoken in the city, so it only makes sense that he has more than a few under his belt, so to speak.
The MAIN LANGUAGES, other than English, he might flip to in everyday speech are:
Dutch - Fluent
French - Fluent
Italian - Fluent
German - Fluent
Spanish - Fluent
Mandarin - Fluent
Japanese - Fluent
You can assume that if your character’s first language isn’t English that more than likely, Sean will respond to them in that language rather than English.
English was not his first language. His first language was Dutch with French being a close second due to Flemish Walloons being one of the first settlers in New Amsterdam.
MISC –
Greed has been a running theme in his life since he was created as the colony itself was established with the main intent being trade. Because of this, Sean’s struggled in choosing right from wrong at times and has been led astray by the promise of money in many instances, Tammany Hall being a prime example.
While he does work for his government, he works as a dance instructor for the most part. He loves the flexible hours as well as the ability to connect with his citizens in what he thinks to be the purest form of interaction.
He invests in the stock market, of course, but nowadays he lets his financial adviser deal with the day to day stuff since even that is a full time job in itself.
Sean’s always had a soft spot in his heart for comic books and his corresponding story lines. He'd be hard pressed to choose between Marvel or DC.
Sean, being the City of New York– a city that’s been heavily involved in finances– does indeed have the bank account to reflect that involvement. He has a net worth of around two billion and despite that he does still live frugally. Well, as frugally as someone with two billion dollars lives in a penthouse.
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