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hetalia-club · 6 months

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I'm not normally one to rant or anything but here goes.

I hesitate to tag this. but I feel it needs to be said, in fact I feel it HAS to be said or I think this fandom is just going to be done for within the next 5 or so years. People need to read this and understand what is happening within the fandom and not continue this behavior or turn a blind eye to it.

This fandom has a SERIOUS problem. I don't say that lightly either. I feel like 99% of this fandom are sweet and caring people. but we have that 1%.

This 1% is killing the community in this fandom. How is it okay to message someone, demand they make a statement on THEIR blog and when they say they don't want to talk about it you then tell them you wish they would die a horrible death?

TW for suicide and SA! (you have been warned) Long rant below. (preempted note to let everyone know that I am fine, I am not posting this for people to feel bad for me. I am using my own experiences as examples, but this is not a 'me' issue this is a fandom issue)

Why is that so normalized here? The vague blogging and the call to arms people in this fandom do is actually disgusting. Picking one person and just beating them down until they eventually leave the fandom and at the SAME people will be like. "Why is the Hetalia fandom so small?" Who wants to be in a fandom where making one statement that's not even bad could get you death threats?

I don't think the fandom realizes how hurtful what they say can be. Sure you might not have liked a post someone made because you disagreed. Well then scroll down, hit the block button and carry on with your life. Why do some of you feel it is acceptable behavior to make mass posts calling out someone or going into their inbox to tell them you wish they would kill themselves?

I say I don't like Spamano and people say they want me dead. I say I don't want to talk about IRL politics on my parody Hetalia blog and my life and entire country is threatened.

I say we shouldn't insert our ships into everyone's lives and let people ship what they want and not feel forced to appease you. and you guessed it people wish terrible things onto me and my body.

I feel the only way this behavior will change is if we start calling it out more. I know it will feel repetitive but I think ignoring it is only making it worse at this point.

I know a lot of people would read this and think "If you don't like it then leave the fandom" well YOU'RE the issue. This is not normal behavior. These are not actions of someone who is mentality well. Why should I leave a fandom I've been in for 10 years because some idiot cannot handle that I don't like shipping characters together? How is that impacting their life at all?

a few months ago I made a post and it was highjacked and someone totally just took it over and added their own thing onto it talking about SA. Totally out of left field not related to what I posted at all. I simply messaged them and asked them if they could please remove the comment as I am a survivor of SA and it don't think it was funny or appropriate to add onto my post and they just said. "No I can say anything I want to. I was talking about Hetalia so it's fine." like what do you mean no!? Who responds that way? What a normal considerate person would do is say "I'm sorry of course! I can just go make my own post." but no they just left it there. It's still there, won't say which post or who it was because it doesn't matter anymore.

But this is the kind of behavior I'm talking about. This weird entitlement of everyone being so defensive and angry all the time. Just wanting to pick a fight over nothing. You never know if simply saying something like (Example) "I don't really like Austria" Could land you 100 anons all saying they wanted you to off yourself. It's like a game of Russian roulette. It's a very stressful environment for a big creator to be in. All it really takes is the wrong person to see a post you made and disagreed with and all of a sudden they are making posts about you without mentioning your name but are CLEARLY about you saying "This person hates all Austrians, they are a neo-nazi and we should all block them and send them hate and also let's just reword what they said to make it sound 100x worse because people won't read the original post and they will just believe us." Who would want to be a creator in an environment like that?

would you believe me if I told you I still to this day am getting someone in my inbox calling for my r*pe because of the stupid fucking beauty pageant poll I did? Is that not insanity? Who is that person? Wtf is their life? I personally could not imagine sending hate to anyone for any reason, and if I did it would be off of anon and I would say it with my chest. Because in order for someone to push it that far they would have to saying some absolutely terrible stuff to make me take time from my day and life to give them negative energy.

The fandom is shrinking because of the 1% driving them away. They come after artists who draw a character in a way they don't like. They come after writers for depicting a character in a way they disagree with. They go after shippers for portraying their ship 'wrong'. They will comment on people's fun little head canons and just leave the rudest most unnecessary comments thinks like "He wouldn't do that" like okay?? Thanks for your insert betty sue. And it's always when you were never trying to set someone off is when they lose their minds. They do not understand even if a blog is big and has a lot of followers it is still THAT creators blog. they are a person not an identity who just churns out content for just you and they have to say and do whatever you want.

Another thing the 1% like to do on here is they will wait for you to say something and then they will jump to attack a person who does the thing you said you dislike and they will tell that person "blog name XYZ said you are a horrible person and I agree kill yourself" That one is a near direct quote I got not too long ago. I got several like that and actually had to message said creator and say "Why are you mad at me?" and they were completely confused, had no idea how they decided to attack me because of what they said. When I tell you that the 1% are sitting there frothing at the mouth wanting to send hate and death threats I mean that 100%

It's not JUST me either. All creators in the Hetalia fandom I'm sure could tell you about upsetting hate they received and had no idea what they even did or said wrong. I have spoken to former Hetalia blogs ones who I used to call my pals before I went on my hiatus and came back. They all said they left not because they started hating Hetalia but they left for their mental health because the 1% got too bold and unchecked. This was never an issue before quarantine. I know it brought a lot of new fans and that's great! But I also feel along with bringing in some wonderful people it brought in some really dark minded people as well. Saying "Just disable anons and move on" is also not a solution. these people are still here and if they're not bothering me or you they are tormenting someone else because that's what these people do. That 'someone else' may only need the tiniest nudge at the edge and they may just actually hurt themselves. You don't know people. You don't know what everyone is going through. You don't know what someone's life is like outside of here.

PLEASE Please! stop telling people to kill themselves. Stop telling people to go get R**ed in a gutter. Get some help talk to a therapist, a friend, a trusted teacher, a life coach, your parents, your sibling. anyone! And if you don't have anyone in your life you can talk to you can message me and we can talk about what you're going through. I'm sure any other Hetalian on here would say the same thing. Bloggers are real people.

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I know I will more than likely get hate for posting this. Which is upsetting to just know is going to happen but someone needs to say this because it's getting kind of out of control these last couple months I feel.

if you read this through reblog it, spread it around let the people who NEED to see it see it.

#hetalia #this needs to be said #if you are offended here just know YOU are the problem #stop sending threats to people #stop attacking creators

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duckytree · 10 months

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the energy on this blog since i began posting miguel art has been rancid.

guys.

liking him does not mean you condone child abuse or toxic masculinity

disliking him does not make you racist or tasteless to moral concepts

he is meant to be a complex and morally grey character.

but most importantly, MIGUEL ISNT REAL, but the people who your comments reach are.

i hate that i have to make a statement like this. if you want to pick a fight then don’t do it here. stop arguing and sending death threats. they don’t bother me but it sucks that my art which was supposed to bring joy is making people fight.

thank you to everyone being genuinely kind and supportive, i love reading ur asks, reblogs and comments.

#miguel o'hara #across the spiderverse #atsv #spiderverse #duckytree #people will say that fighting a fictional teenager is wrong #and then in the same breath will send death threats to an actual living breathing teenager #this isn’t just about me #stop fighting each other #there are minors here

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thebroccolination · 6 days

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THE EX-MORNING SERIES CONCEPT

By now I think many people have heard that KristSingto’s upcoming series is an original script that was written for them. What we also have confirmed is that it was written about them.

[source]

KRIST: This series was written by P'Backaof and directed by P'Lit where they created this script from the start deliberately for the two of us and they got information for the characters etc. from KristSingto directly. In the series, the name for P'Sing is Tamtawan, and my name is Phatapi. And Tamtawan Tamtawan and Phatapi are KristSingto themselves.

INTERVIEWER: Does that mean you play yourself?

KRIST: [laughing] Yes, we act as ourselves, so it's not difficult at all.

Today, Aof elaborated on his part on Twitter:

[source: @backaof]

[translation: @_beinglistener]

And Jojo added:

[source: @jojotichakorn]

[translation: @_beinglistener]

So, two gay men are the leading creative minds behind KristSingto’s comeback series. Time to study up on your KristSingto history, kids. \:D/

Long live sanctioned RPF. 🎉

#krist perawat #singto prachaya #kristsingto #the ex morning #i’ve already seen the same tired ‘guess rent was due’ about krist and #i see on twitter when people link my thread about krist to people still insisting he’s homophobic #man’s rich #he works constantly #he even said it’s something he regrets now that his grandmother who raised him passed away #he worked so much he didn’t have as much time for his family—who he helps support #he is quite literally considered bl royalty #he has more queer people in his circle than straight #waa (gay) is his mentor #aof (gay) wrote this series and jojo (gay) thought up the concept so even professionally he's supported by queer people #you don’t have to like him #and you don’t have to admit to sending death threats to a stranger who doesn’t speak your language based on rumors you didn’t verify #just y’know #admit quietly to yourself alone in your head that you were wrong and you caused harm to a person who didn’t deserve it #plenty of actors use bl as a stepping stone to bigger jobs #he’s not one of them #he wanted to do bl for years but gmmtv told him he could only work with singto #so literally the only reason kit didn’t do bl until BMF was scheduling issues because singto wanted to study abroad #and singto couldn’t get a fixed date for it and then the pandemic messed with his plans even more #i’m glad to see more and more people are understanding who krist is recently #and even in the series they made pathapi’s controversy an impulsive act of anger #krist has said he used to struggle with being hotheaded #and one of his apologies for the igs was even something like ‘i acted without thinking of how it would look out of context’#he just wanted people to stop harassing him for his sexuality but the context isn’t in the igs #anyway my go-to when i’m too tired to talk about this is always this #if he had ever been homophobic thai people would be the ones leading the charge against him…but it’s interfans

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alilaro · 2 months

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god people are so unhinged about james somerton

#obviously dont harass people or send them death threats but blaming others for him being suicidal is deranged #he's a grown man who's actions are his own #criticizing someone is not telling someone to kys get a GRIP #not to be blunt but i just got over a suicide attempt two weeks ago and its not great-i hope he gets help #-but its not the responsibility of twitter users telling him to stop posting stolen content #suicide tw #james somerton

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vinnianlovesdinosaurs · 1 month

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House of the Dragon Hot Take #5

I genuinely cannot help but look at some HOTD stans crazy when they open their mouths on apps like this and TikTok because....is home training just not a thing anymore? Like it doesn't matter if you're team green, team black, team neutral, or no team at all. You should know how to speak to PEOPLE over a FICTIONAL show and book series. I've seen so many stans arguing over which rapist, groomer, or violent misogynist is more excusable then the other and it genuinely blows my mind every single time 😭 like GET A GRIP

#house of the dragon cast #this is a series now I guess #team women #team gay people #team green #team black #you guys are so weird #like where are the manners #stop sending death threats over a FICTIONAL character #truthfully humiliating #rhaenyra targaryen #alicent hightower #house of the dragon #hotd

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amr-shitposts · 3 months

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Man I've been see a lot of antis complaining, guess i will just ship harder 💀🔥

#funny how the antis are more toxic than the shippers themselves lmao 🤡#“boohoo I don't like this ship so you should stop shipping because I'm a selfish little fuck” bitch stfu and block the tag 😭#people won't stop doing shit just to please your silly feelings #because the world does not revolve around you 💞#those anti bozos have been sending death threats and causing drama for a decade #tired of this shit 🥱#alice madness returns #angus bumby

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revvethasmythh · 7 months

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okay what actually bothers me about most fcg discourse is that the tone of it is always so similar to how it was during the height of the "people hate sam because he's not pushing a beau/jest agenda" era that happened in c2, in that there is some minimal narrative discussion about his character intercut with a lot of "I think someone should hurt him/his character for 'disrespecting' [laura and/or marisha character]," which is really present in that "someone should make him eat his coin" sort of verbiage that gets tossed around when fcg does something (anything) related to the gods, and particularly if it affects laudna or imogen.

like here's the thing, I saw so many people from this sort of group back in the c2 days say something along the lines of "I want to kill him/I am going to kill him" about sam and then be like "no I mean it as a JOKE. like affectionately. I'm going to kill him I hate him he's homophobic and so is his character and I think he should die hahaha isn't that funny" and that tone like. REMAINS and PERSISTS in a lot of fcg discourse I see. the idea that he needs to "pay" for doing something that generally, at most, is a mild inconvenience in-game, if it was anything of note at all (often it wasn't!). "I love him!" in the same breath as "I think he needs to suffer and repent" and if he doesn't, that he should be thrown out wholesale. Brings all the old memories a-roaring right back

#maybe YOU don't remember the ''I'm sending sam death threats but in a hahah funny way" era but I will NEVER forget it #of all the Discourse Horrors that spawned from that campaign....this is what scarred me deepest tbh #I have NEVER seen people behave so disgustingly and when I see echoes of it in the fandom re: sam I'm like. stop. shut up. go to hell #a lot of this was on twitter btw. probably the same damn group of people saying awful shit on twitter now

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lesblizzard-ultradyke · 5 months

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I think I think maybe it's weird when some of you on radblr be like "tras are so stupid they can't think critically" as if it is exclusively a tra thing and not like a whole fucking world, including you, thing.

#idk how to explain this lol #just a lot of people act like radical feminism is somehow giving you all the knowledge in the world and you're never wrong about things #like you can agree with radical feminism and still be full of other shit #lmao look at dworkin who everyone here loves so much being lesbophobic #or look at how radblr full of girls saying all type of shit #or like maybe stop pretending that radblr is so much better then tras community #that there aren't radfems who send anon hate and death threats and all the shit you people love to hate tras for #lmao literally this moment when menalez called out someone and girlies started sending anon bullshit to that blog #idk i am making zero sense today again but whatever #it's not even a radfem/radblr or tra or conservative or liberal problem it's everyone problem

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genius--built · 7 months

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yknow it is the internet and all, so I can’t really say I could’ve expected better. but the last drawing I posted was not intended to be ship art. I would’ve been up front about it if that had been my intent. I’ve gone and tagged it at the request of a few people, but this is not a blog where I will be posting stuff that should result in genuinely threatening asks, so I’d appreciate some civility. I’ve been here less than 2 weeks, you don’t even know me.

#aide screams #antis would love to chase every perceived proshipper off the internet #and despite this not being a tcest blog I’m fielding threats from people over art that doesn’t feature any romance #I am not made of spite. I joined the fandom a week ago and I’m just trying to make friends #it just isn’t worth being attacked over #it absolutely takes a village to stand up to hateful ppl and I don’t have any friends in this fandom yet so yknow #no ones got my back and it’s not worth the RSD to put up with #I’m not leaving yet but if the ridiculousness continues I will go Anon and stop fielding the bullshit bc it’s undeserved #I know antis love to get a rise out of ppl and I’m just feeding the flames but jfc this IS an 18+ blog and I stg most of y’all are minors #I can’t honestly believe someone over 18 would send a stranger on the internet threats over fictional characters. it’s childish as hell #I’m beginning to understand why this fandom has such a problem with authors and artists MASS DELETING everything they’ve ever made #antis even crawled into the ask box on my LoZ blog. like. wtf is wrong with you

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whumpacabra · 6 months

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There’s a post going around recently about how the whump community tags for disabled characters and I…have to disagree with its main point.

Simply tagging a post with ‘disabled whumpee’ does not give me enough information to know if a fic will be validating or triggering for me. I need more specific tags to filter out my squicks and triggers, and to identify posts of interest. Specific tags are the keystone of a community that specifically talks about potentially triggering or upsetting content.

For example, I like reading stories with characters that use prostheses and mobility aids. I find these stories relatable and validating as someone with both! But should those posts simply be tagged ‘disabled whumpee’ because it might conflict with the other users of the mobility aids and prostheses tags? I can only find out the nature of the whumpee’s disability by reading, and a negative outcome can at best turn out to be a waste of time or at worst deeply upsetting.

Cancer is a difficult topic for me given my past and current experiences with it. I have the cancer tag and a dozen variants of it blocked. Of course, people on tumblr with cancer or talking about their experiences with it use that tag to talk about it. If someone is writing about a character who has or had cancer, but only tags for ‘disabled whumpee’ I won’t know that I’m getting into a story that will cause me great distress.

I’m disabled. I have severe nerve damage, limited mobility, chronic pain, a plethora of other medical bullshit, and my condition is progressive. Whump is part of how I’ve been learning to deal with and process my struggles, and part of that involves writing and reading about disability in whump.

Do I just block all ‘disabled whumpee’ content and never know if I’m clicking on a story I’ll find relatable and validating or if I’m clicking on a story that will upset me so badly I won’t use tumblr for a few days? No - I block specific tags and specific blogs as necessary. The idea that we should stop using specific tags, when writing about a specific condition or disease, to put everything under one vague blanket is naive at best and dangerous at worst.

I understand the frustration of seeing posts you don’t want to see in a specific tag (the number of x reader headcanon blogs for fandoms I’ve never heard of that I’ve had to block when trying to browse is ridiculous). But at the end of the day if those posts are tagged appropriately (ie. not crosstagged spam in violation of the TOS) you just do what you always do for something you don’t want to see on this site: blacklist, block, and move on.

#whump #whump community #tagging etiquette #beans speaks #it’s fine if you disagree/are changing how you tag your disabled whumpee writing but I’m not so please feel free to block me (genuine)#if you see me in a specific tag you don’t want to see whump writing in #I understand where that post is coming from but also. is we stop tagging specific tags. how the fuck am I supposed to avoid my triggers???#I just don’t understand tumblr’s block and blacklist options are wayyy more effective than they’ve ever been.#and I don’t see how tagging a post that contains the depiction of apples would be clogging the apple tag? it’s an appropriate use of the tag #do I want to see posts about the fictional mlp character applejack when browsing the apple tag? probably not.#but I understand why the tag search included those posts and why the poster tagged the post with such. I block them and move on.#my blood sugar is low sorry if this is rambly and incoherent and. I don’t know stupid or insensitive?#disabled people are not a monolith we all have different opinions and preferences for how we interact with the topic of our disabilities #and removing specificity for the sake of…inconvenience just seems silly #sorry I haven’t read that post in a few days I might sound like a complete asshole in which case idk send gore and death threats I guess #I haven’t done tumblr discourse since 2015. do people still send KYS or is it all kungpowpenis these days?

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kazubabes · 10 months

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i think johnzee as a ship is just not my cup of tea, but i love the characters so much as individuals and it sucks to see people arguing johnzee, anti-johnzee ( like. i wouldn’t consider myself an anti. i just think zatanna could be with. wonder woman. that’s what i think. ) on my feed even though i follow neither of the tags.

let people like what they want. i’ve seen johnzee antis and johnzee fans alike with death threats over a ship for a fictional character. who cares. “zatanna could do better” okay. “john killed her dad” there’s more technicalities there, but okay. “zatanna and john are meant to be” okay. but people cannot be sending death threats; it’s bizarre.

and shooting down one character in said ship in favor of another and that being the justification for the ship is insane to me. i get hating a character, but man. if someone else loves both characters and wants to see them together, then who fucking cares. i’d like to be able to look through zatanna posts and not have people being at each other’s throats about ships.

this goes for all shipping discourse, but i was looking through someone’s account ( who has. lovely zatanna posts. ) and i got really far down, as one does, and just saw some of the asks, and... it kind of sucked to see. no one deserves to see stuff like that because they have a comfort ship, or they disagree with a particular ship.

#zatanna #johnzee #anti-johnzee #?#idk if i should tag it that #ship discourse #people should calm down.#it's not that hard to filter tags to make sure you don't see things you don't want to.#and PLEASE stop sending death threats to one another #ofc this isn't everyone but man it is getting to be a decent handful ruining it for everyone

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