#sorry but regaurdless of whether humans bred chickens or sheep to produce a surplus of That Stuff We Get From Them doesn’t make the fact tha
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my sympathy for vegans getting a flood of “DEBATE MEEEE” comments versus my frustration that their explanations and reasoning for vegan-ness still being fucking shit
#‘why are you arguing against someones life choices! their behavior isn’t a reflection on you!’ well A) i’m not actuall the one being critica#critical in this scenario i know better than to actually involve myself in that shit#b) Once You Start Making Ethical Arguments That Inherently Involves Everybody Fucking Else#AND THEN WHEN YOUR ARGUMENTS HAVE HOLES IT JUST. ACK#sorry but regaurdless of whether humans bred chickens or sheep to produce a surplus of That Stuff We Get From Them doesn’t make the fact tha#that harvesting that surplus SHOULD BE (not IS) harmless irrelevant#think i fucked up the grammer there. love how you can’t see the whole tag in the tags system#on mobile i mean#and like. suggesting selective breeding to REMOVE traits humans tampered into animals is still fuckin assumptive of what we even actually#meddled with#like jfc. veganism is an entirely fucking rational response to the animal industry’s plethora of degredations towards dignity and life#JUST CITE THAT#and while the plant agriculture industry is also completely fucked people still rely on it moreso than meat thus the demand is inelastic#and also theres hypothetically more room for actually ethical consumption. probably#veganism isnt INHERENTLY a step towards more ethical environmental practices but done not-catastrophically-wrong its stil a fucking improvem#improvement! and likewise it isn’t the ONLY road to making shit more ethical at least if you can accept that there is some ideal ‘ethical an#‘ethical animal agriculture’ that exists as a possibility out there#not to mention the whole ‘personal choices versus systemic change’ thing and how whe our politics affect our personal consumption that doesn#‘t really mean dick-all compared to actual collective efforts
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