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swynlake-rp · 2 years

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“I have your hearts, and you have my pity!”

FULL NAME: Georgette Midler BASED ON: Georgette (Oliver and Company) FACE CLAIM: Alix Earle PRONOUNS: She/Her BIRTHDAY: March 25, 2000 CURRENT STATUS: Taken

Character Information Tw: diet culture, beauty standards, self harm

Being raised the way she was there as no other option than perfect. Georgette was taught at the age of 3 “if you are not perfect you will simply be a failure.” Blessed with the pedigree of a socialite mother and Colombia Law Professor as a father she was the best of the best. The status backed by genetics she was out on a pedestal her entire life. There was something elite about being a socialites daughter as well as a beauty queen. From Little Miss New York to Miss Junior New York and her final glory as Miss New York she also find time to be the Serena Vanderwoodsen of her time; gracing page 6 and having features in vogue.

The pageant circuit was run like a business; her mother taught her early how to check off the boxes and say the right things. There was never a hair out of place or a smile that wasn’t a little too bleached. The same went for her social standing in the city. She was set up for success when her days of pageants had ran its course - she just needed the final title before she could happily retire at 24 and be a socialite. Georgette was just like any woman there was a lot of facade to the life she presented to the world. Where she had made her mistake was she stood on the platform of being genuine and wholesome. The legal documents and NDAs were always drafted up for her assistants and her beauty glam team. They could never share the truth about how much of a tyrant she was or about all the times she had been under the knife and needle. Everything that she was to her adoring public and the pageant judges was a lie.

The mask was viciously ripped from Georgettes face. Purposefully at the start of the Miss America season. Miss New York and her reputation were being dragged in the mud. On the cover of the New Yorker Magazine, The NY Times, DuMoiux, and every social media platform was Georgette…and pictures of her post nose job - not one but two, pictures of her under the laser for jaw line treatments, her unfiltered face covered in acne, a pretty telling rumor of a boob job, and ozempic usage.

Everything that Georgette swore against publicly and spoke as an advocate against was broadcasted front and center. To add to the fire screen shots and voice recordings of how she spoke to staff of her upper East side family pent house, restaurant staff, past assistants, and even a jilted ex boyfriend. NDAs, threats, and law suits could not keep the truth from coming out. Ruined Georgette strarted to spiral. In true delusional fashion she tried to make the obtuse apology video for her own social media. Makeup smeared and flowing tears Georgette tried to turn it in her favor by seeming genuine but the public saw right through it. There was nothing genuine about a “save me from being cancelled cry video.”

In enraged black out Georgette trashed her entire room. There was nothing she could do about any of this. No amount of her parents money could cover this! Even if it did there was no chance at winning Miss America if she was exposed and then potentially reexposed for giving the press hush money to redact the articles. They were all true anyways and nobody was going to think anything different. After a week long slump and staying off social media hoping for some of it to blow over Georgette logged back on to see that she was still the hot gossip and it was only getting worse. Screaming at the top of her lungs she grabbed her own arms and started digging her acrylic nails into her skin. She wasn’t stopping she kept digging. Hoping to feel anything but the pain and rage she was feeling over the scandal. As the blood started to drip from her arm it took her minutes before she realized it was pouring from her arms to the marble floors of her walk in closet. She had to leave! It was the only way. To let things blow over. Swyn Lake it was remote. She could treat it like a retreat. Or maybe settle in and build her name up somewhere else. Packing her entire life up in a few suit cases and her trust fund in hand Georgette ran far away from her dumpster fire in Manhattan and set her eyes on a Mansion lifestyle in a new town.

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merkissescanhealyou · 4 years

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About

Edited on 12/3/2019; partial credit to sharp-eyes-sharper-teeth for the blood ritual idea.

Name: Marius

Age: 35

Sex: Agender/Intersex (prefers male pronouns)

Height: 5'8.5"

Weight: 183 lbs.

Blood type: ???

Species: Merfolk

Sexual preference: Polyam homosexual

Birthday: July 18th, xxxx (He doesn’t know what day he was born)

Voice claim: Mitch Grassi

-Background-

Marius was born somewhere in the Pacific ocean to strict parents. He grew up with the idea that humans are dangerous and to never go near them. His parents, Cyreus and Talia, forbade him from wandering too far from the reef and expected him to follow each and every one of their rules. They wanted to shape him into the mer they wanted, fit the mold to their standards, but Marius was rebellious and wanted nothing to do with them. Unbeknownst to him, they arranged a marriage for him when he was just an infant. So he grew up without the knowledge of this traditional duty.

He was quite different from his brethren. He was born with the gift to heal with a kiss. Mers with powers such as this are revered as valuable and a great asset to their clans and communities. His parents wanted him to become a healer for the mers of his clan, but Marius wanted no part in that. If anything, the sea creatures treated him better than his own parents. He thought, maybe he could heal the wildlife instead.

By age 19, Marius was fed up of his parents and the society of which he was brought into. He kept to himself and avoided other merfolks, for fear of attachment when he planned to move away. He did, however, rescue a baby octopus from the looming predators in his reef. The poor thing was frightened and injured, and he sheltered it and nursed it back to health. He tried to release the little fellow, but he refused to go. So, he chose a name from a book he once found while collecting trinkets from a sunken ship, and kept him; he was named Aristotle.

His 20th birthday soon arrived and instead of receiving a warm celebration from his family, he was given the news of his arranged marriage, and his expectations of his parents. Marius, however, refused to marry. In fact, he was terrified of marriage. Mer marriages weren’t like humans’. When mers are married, it is the joining of two (or more, depending on the arrangement) families, and those in matrimony are subject to a blood ritual, to ensure the guarantee offspring. Lots of offspring. To strengthen their numbers and multiply. Said mers are bound to each other, and they cannot leave the relationship, or the effects of the ritual that bound them will physically torture them. Marius could not bear to go through it. The day of his ritual, he fought with his parents. Cyreus raised his voice, which his son mirrored back to him, but he slapped his own child across the face. That sparked an attack from Marius, and he sprang upon his father, attempting to strangle the life out of him. Talia tore him off of Cyreus by biting his shoulder. It worked because the mer reeled backwards. All that was exchanged between them was a threat. Marius threatened to kill them if they tried to find him. He was not sorry for what he did, and he didn’t care what his spouse would say. He swam far away from his reef, and never looked back. That was the last time his parents ever saw him.

It had been many, many years later since his escape from his prison. He survived on his own, with Aristotle at his side. They’ve hunted together and protected each other from the dangers of the ocean. One instance, Marius was being hunted by a shark and he had to fight the beast tooth and nail to live. He managed to kill the predator, but with great taxation. He never had any troubles with sharks, but this one encounter was enough to frighten him and avoid them at all costs.

He found out that he had a knack for healing animals, not merfolk. The whole time, he thought of himself as a failure when in actuality, his calling was to heal marine life. From his studies and travels, he has healed and saved many creatures big and small. A patient of his led him to the discovery of humans, and Marius was enraged that they attempted to harm wildlife. He became obsessed with studying humans from afar, and learning that not only do they intentionally harm wildlife, they do it unintentionally too. He hated the humans in the huge boats with the nets, hated the ones with the big spears that took down whales, hated the ones who maimed sharks and turtles, hated the ones that drilled and spilled black, toxic sludge into the ocean, hated the ones that kidnapped wildlife and never returned them to their home. He observed them from a distance, and no matter how far away he was, he could feel their greedy hands around his neck to yank him from the sea.

As the years passed, Aristotle’s lifespan was coming to an end, the normal life expectancy for an octopus. Marius was aware of it and he dreaded the day he had to say goodbye. Sooner or later, it happened. He woke up one morning to find his little friend snuggled up in his arms, but paler than the moon. He checked for signs of life, a standard procedure nowadays, but found none. The shock hit him like a wave against a jetty. He cried and cried, and held his friend close for hours until it was time to lay him to rest. He dug deep in the ocean floor and buried him, marking his grave with a heavy rock and kissed it before swimming away.

Marius wanders the ocean, in search of knowledge and marine life who need his held. He has had close calls with humans and predators. One day, he drifted into the bay of a busy fishing town. He watched the boats go in and out of the harbor and he felt nothing. That is, until a human had captivated his eye. It was tall, lanky human with yellow glass over the eyes, and a peculiar shape on the head. He kinda looked….grumpy. Something was on his left hand, an accessory he had never seen before. And this human was covered in cloth! So much cloth! He didn’t understand why, for merfolk don’t wear cloth. But he was so…handsome. Marius was smitten with the human, and it brought him such confusion because he was supposed to hate and fear them. But this one? He doesn’t hunt marine life, he doesn’t drill into the seabeds, he doesn’t do anything like that. He was so enraptured by him that he started to follow him whenever he could see him from the water. His heart pounded in his chest, his cheeks were tickled pink, and his eyes sparkled when he saw him. But he knew he could never be with him. Merfolk and humans are not supposed to be together. All he could do was pine for him.

-Anatomy-

The merfolk have evolved to include both male and female reproductive organs to reproduce. The male reproductive organs are internal, but when aroused, it pokes through protective folds and becomes erect. Outwardly, they all appear to be female because of placement of the male organ. It is slightly above the middle of the hips, and is hidden beneath the skin. The female reproductive organ appears on the underside of the tail, marked by a slit. Breeding had become difficult and scarce among the merfolk, therefore making it necessary to find a way to reproduce. Merfolk are genderless, but they are intelligent enough to choose if they want to identify with a gender. There are two types of species of merfolk: masculine and feminine. For example, some feminine merfolk prefer to have she/her pronouns, some prefer they/them, and some prefer he/him; the same with masculine merfolk. The only difference between them is their appearance and physical attributes. The feminine ones have more breast tissue and are usually shorter in length, but those are the only two differences. Because of these differences, they are classified into two types, otherwise they are basically the same. They cannot reproduce on their own, they need to mate with another merperson. Either type can carry offspring.

They have two sets of lungs, one for water-breathing and one for air-breathing, both in the chest cavity. They are half the size of human lungs for the sake of space for both pairs. The gills are located on the sides of the neck, in three slits. It is not known by many merfolks that they also have a pair of legs. When the tail is dried entirely, it splits into two legs and the scales and fins disappear. When they are wet with a foreign substance other than their own bodily fluids, the legs will pull together and merge into a tail fin, and the tail will remain unless it is dried again. The reproductive organs remain in their places, but only the female organ changes in appearance when the merperson has legs. It takes the shape of a human female’s vulva instead of a slit on the underside of a fish tail.

-Personality-

Marius is a kind, gentle soul that has seen the harsh reality of mother nature. He tends to root for the underdog, or the weak species. He can be found lurking around the reefs, looking for sick or injured animals and fish to help. He’s not the type to start fights, but he can and will defend himself when he needs to. He comes across as timid, but curious. He wants to learn about the many mysteries the ocean has to offer, but he can sense danger and knows when to retreat. He doesn’t have much of a temper and doesn’t come off as intimidating. When angered, he tries to hide it but he’s not very good at hiding emotions. If he feels threatened, like any cornered animal, he will strike or attack. In the past, he has had two encounters where a predator backed him against an inescapable area, and he killed to save himself. He has never “snapped” and killed for the thrill of it or out of anger.

#about #bio #lime #//for the description about mers' anatomy//#//it's for an educational purpose//

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nicemango-feed · 6 years

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Jordan Peterson - His Strange Atheist Bedfellows & His War on Cathy Newman

Over the last week or so, I’ve watched this Cathy Newman/Channel 4 saga unfold. It took twists and turns that were quite surprising to me, but shouldn’t have been - especially considering the recent trend of Movement Atheism to join hands with almost anyone that is sufficiently anti-left or anti-feminist. Even if that means allying with a Christian fundie snake oil salesman they themselves would have laughed out the room a few years ago. I mean just take a look at this short clip below, wtaf is this nonsense?

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As we see the rise of the Cult of Jordan Peterson, we also see the rise of I-love-Jesus atheism. Douglas Murray is a good example of that...though, he's been one long before Peterson arrived on the scene, to be fair. He's a hispter Jesus Atheist.

Murray is embraced wholeheartedly by the increasingly rightward shifting atheist scene for his anti-immigrant, anti-Muslim stances (going so far as to worry about the future children Muslim asylum seekers may have, *possibly* growing up to become extremists even if their parents weren't)

We could take in the 'nicest' asylum seekers, 'but their son could be a suicide bomber': @DouglasKMurray on second-generation terrorists pic.twitter.com/3yMHLjF2aj

— The Bolt Report (@theboltreport) May 29, 2017

“We could take in two asylum seekers, who might be the nicest most pro-British people ever, but their son might turn out to be a suicide bomber" - Douglas Murray

"But what levels, after all's said and done, do the celebrants of diversity want to get to? What is their ideal target figure? Is a ceiling of 25 per cent white Britons in London — or the country at large — optimal? Or would it be 10 per cent? Or none at all? A final, and perhaps harder, question: how — given the concatenation of claims against them — might "white Britons" ever acceptably argue, let alone complain, about such unspecified or unspecifiable odds?" - Also Doug Murray

You'll never believe who Doug is a big fan of:

He's consistently been an excellent judge of character though, so we should *totally* trust him on this one...his other judgements have been So. Spot. On... especially regarding Trump. -___-

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Anyway, aside from I-Iove-Jesus-atheism (which is still some form of atheism), Peterson is also having the effect of stirring the embers of religion...in the hearts of some 'atheists' (being anti-left is a powerful uniting force). Perhaps some lost lambs needed a father-figure like JBP in their lives, to yell basic shit at them, shit that my grandma gave away for free...like 'clean your room!' 'Sort yourself out!'...they needed someone to lead them toward god's warm and loving embrace. Yay!

screenshot via @classiclib3ral

After this recent Channel 4 interview, we've seen a flood of predictable 'contrarian' thinkpieces pouring out in defence of this newly emerged hero...one who dares to challenge 'leftist orthodoxy', by sharing ‘truths’ that no one else will tell you. 'Truths' like, how women just don’t WANT powerful positions, (no really, I've watched lectures of his where he, a top earner on Patreon making over 60K $ A MONTH, spends a lot of time deterring women from wanting power positions. He talks about how awful and complicated being rich is, how it can make you (women) unravel) about how the gender pay gap can be explained away because women are choosing lower paying careers, what they need in order to be happy is marriage and babies, ok? Also, there is no systemic discrimination, you silly emotional, brainwashed neo-marxist sjws!

"The more I see women in particular, they hit 35-40 …and they’re not married…and they don’t have kids…and they are not happy. Cuz what the hell are you gonna do from the time you’re 40 till the time you’re 80?! You got no family… you got no relationships? What are you gonna do?! Go run your company?!!! Yeah well… if you’re 1 in a 1000 that will satisfy you.” - an actual JBP quote.

“each sex has it’s own unfairness to deal with, but to think of that as a consequence of the social structure….come on really?!" - also an actual JBP quote (from the lecture linked above)

Anyway, amidst those thinkpieces...shared by the most popular anti-left (but still clinging to leftist status) figureheads, there is a wave of outraged culty fanbases coming together, speaking out in unison against this shrill harpy of a woman who dared to have an adversarial interview with Peterson.

The ones with a bit of self-awareness and self-respect will never admit to being sympathetic to Peterson’s views (kind of like they did with Milo)...and so will phrase their disgust at this interview more along the lines of, “I’m no Peterson fan BUT, all he did was say true things while she aggressively strawmanned him.”

How dare she assume *this man* could be saying sexist things????

I honestly had to watch the interview 3 times to see if maybe I had missed something the first two times, and no, I still don’t understand where the hate and rage towards Cathy are coming from.

Why are people SO upset that she didn’t perform to their liking (people who claim to be 'for equality & progress')? I don't get it...She was pretty standardly 'meh' I thought. Not great at grilling him, sure. But at least she tried to take on this shifty charlatan. I see it as I would if someone was imperfect in grilling someone like Mo Ansar, like sure they made some mistakes...but even attempting to expose someone like that is good (Though, I don't think Mo is remotely as rich, powerful or influential as Peterson...so not nearly as dangerous).

Why the full blown outrage? I mean, I understand where it’s coming from with people who are openly anti-left and anti-feminist, people who think diversity is a codeword for white genocide…people who think theres a leftist cultural marxist conspiracy to compel them to use non-binary pronouns, or some garbage like that - But I really don’t understand what so-called sophisticated thinkers & non far-right lunatics are doing lowering themselves to defend Peterson in any way whatsoever.

There could have been a perfectly fair and measured critique, where people kept in sight who Peterson actually is;

--An extremist thats radicalizing many young people every day, and making big bucks off it--

A man with ideas so regressive that they're sure to set us back a few decades, if they gain enough influence. His explanation here for accusations of sex assault is not to first find fault with the perpetrators of the assault, but to blame the idea that sex is no longer enshrined in marriage (not like marital rape ever happens or anything, never mind that many of the accused are MARRIED). I mean, I'm no stranger to hearing such garbage, I did grow up in Saudi Arabia, as a woman.

I just don't expect to hear this nonsense being embraced so gleefully by people outside of a blatantly misogynistic theocracy.

Like any Salafist preacher in Saudi, JBP doesn't like the idea of casual sex. Quelle Surprise.

In this now disproportionately notorious Channel 4 interview he remained cool and calm is all. That is not to be confused with performing well or having decent ideas...or speaking 'truths'.

He could have performed in any way and his sycophantic followers would have perceived it exactly how they do now. In their eyes he would have 'won' regardless.

The harassment Cathy received from this misogynistic fanbase was mentioned in several publications. At first, even causing Peterson to tell his fans:

If you're threatening her, stop. Try to be civilized in your criticism. It was words. Words, people, words. Remember those? "C4 calls in security experts after presenter suffers online abuse." https://t.co/z4UAVOSYuO

— Jordan B Peterson (@jordanbpeterson) January 19, 2018

Don't let it fool you though, Peterson often engages in this kind of performative condemnation, of the alt right, or of misogynistic harassment...when he feels the mainstream media are on to him. But it isn't long before he shows his hand.

He continued to post criticism of Cathy right after telling people to stop threatening her, which is not something you'd do if you were genuinely concerned about her being targeted.

He then soon went on to do another interview where he started off obsessively complaining about her...and the apparent 'spin' that was being created, that she was some kind of planned feminist martyr, because this was a sort of ...I dunno face saving tactic, because she had received so much criticism. He said the criticism was being spun as harassment.

So first he says stop threatening her, then he expresses regret for saying that and now is discrediting that it could be harassment or threats at all. That faux-concern didn't take long to unravel at all...

If that wasn't tasteless enough for you - he even dogwhistled to his followers through this other interview by saying,

29:30: "I was reviewing maybe 10-11 of these newspaper articles that had played this twisty game and accused me of like, siccing my internet trolls on poor hapless journalists and I thought --this was the dark part of me-- the shadow part thought, If I wanted to sic my internet trolls on channel 4 then there'd be nothing but broken windows and riots, and then there's a little part of me that thinks... wouldn't that be fun"

This man is dangerous, and he's clearly on some power trip.

If a future interviewer ever tried to press him on this statement and say something like 'wow what an irresponsible thing to say after a channel had to call in extra security because of your fanbase' - he'd most definitely hide behind semantics, as he always does...and say something like, "Oh I wasn't signalling that they should do that, I was saying that that's the dark part of my thoughts, something everyone experiences...everyone has dark thoughts...but obviously I believe we should control those. So I'm not sure why you are misrepresenting what I was saying there" - Meanwhile, his followers would get enraged again that someone dared 'misrepresent' him, and again he'd get away with putting out troubling statements.

The idea that media coverage of Cathy Newman's post-interview harassment is part of a leftist conspiracy to portray Peterson’s poor fanbase as misogynistic is ludicrous beyond belief. Not like his own ideas could set the tone for his fanbase, and how people perceive them. It's got to be a conspiracy.

Consider his chat with Camille Paglia which an article from Chatelaine puts as:

"Peterson said that men can’t control “crazy women” because men aren’t allowed to physically fight women. “I know how to stand up to a man who’s unfairly trespassed against me,” he said. “The parameters for my resistance are quite well-defined, which is: we talk, we argue, we push, and then it becomes physical. If we move beyond the boundaries of civil discourse, we know what the next step is."

"He adds that men unwilling to throw a punch are contemptible. “If you’re talking to a man who wouldn’t fight with you under any circumstances whatsoever, then you’re talking to someone for whom you have absolutely no respect.”"

"...talking to Paglia, he laments that his own socialization prevents him from taking a swing at a lady. Referring to a woman who accused him of being a Nazi, he said, “I’m defenceless against that kind of female insanity because the techniques that I would use against a man who was employing those tactics are forbidden to me.” It’s hard to decide which is creepier: Is it the suggestion, in Peterson’s rueful tone, that he’s kind of bummed out about the fact that he can’t hit women? Or is it the implication, if you were to follow his argument to its conclusion, that because women can’t be hit, they shouldn’t be allowed to participate in civil discourse with men at all?"

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Regarding the Cathy Newman interview though, let's not forget who the real victim in all of this was - Jordan B Peterson, of course.

Not only did Cathy treat Peterson unfairly (even though confrontational interviews like this are not uncommon in Britain, I hear), but it was actually HER Feminist fanbase that threatened and abused HIM.

And who was reporting on that, huh? Only one noble MRA blog (there might be another, but I haven't found it yet).

We mustn't laugh....they could be a reliable source, we shouldn't jump to conclusions....

Ok..I checked their twitter account and it's full of great stuff like Retweets of Breitbart's Raheem Kassam, Cernovich and Paul Joseph Watson. See? Perfectly reasonable account.

Daily mail, on the other hand, was reporting on how Cathy received extreme harassment and death threats. But we're all aware that the Daily Mail is known for it’s far left, radical feminist bias right? Everyone but the MRA blogs have been infected...it's why you've got to go straight to these sources for REAL information without a cultural marxist bias.

Speaking of cultural marxism and postmodernism corrupting things, here's Peterson the free speech activist calling for entire fields of study to be shut down because he deems them corrupt. Fields like 'English Literature'. Totally normal professor.

Well that escalated quickly. pic.twitter.com/6Y9qBhSco4

— CyberViolence [HC] (@CyberHarm) November 11, 2017

(clip via @cyberharm)

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In all seriousness though, not everyone who jumped into this social media debate knew the backstory of Jordan B Peterson. I’m not faulting them for being unfamiliar with his views - and there are some fair criticisms to be made of Cathy’s interview but it just wouldn’t be the hill I’d die on when a swarm of far-right MRA types are already descending upon her. It just seemed wrong to pile on in the middle of all that.

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In the past, many on the left became complacent with the progress we’d made. We never could have imagined that these stone-age ideas about traditional gender roles, race etc. would aggressively claw their way back into the public square like this.

These regressive ideas we thought we'd put to bed, come again in the form of various new-media far-right commentators like Milo, PJW, Molyneux, etc…who spend their time decrying victimhood culture on the left that portrays women, PoC as ‘victims’ of some systemic discrimination. Though this far rightwingery isn't all new...it's just that Fox News has more friends now - friends with influence among young people.

These uncucked heroes turn our attention to who the real victims are - White men (especially conservative) brave enough to take a stand against victimhood culture are the most victimized group of all.

Peterson actually *weeps* in this clip about how some poor men have it real hard. Not the first time I've seen him cry for his causes either.

Funny, because he certainly doesn't have that kind of compassion for women. Maybe, just maaaybe..Cathy Newman sensed something off about his views.

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However, now that there’s some distance I’d like to point out that Cathy was indeed a bit ill-prepared for the interview.

Exceptionally so? Nah, nothing outside of what I’d expect from mainstream journalists trying to grapple with the slippery tactics and sophistry of the new far right. That's how we get clueless 'Nazi next door' type articles. They aren’t in the trenches of youtube comments daily, hearing the arguments against every possible reasonable position that most of us took for granted. Unless they specifically research this or are personally targeted...they aren’t usually dealing with or studying crypto rightwingery, that hates more than anything to be called right-wing. Such free-speech warriors (who will sue you if you so much as suggest they are associated with the right or far right) cultivate a specific image, with a veneer of credibility that only thrives if the waters are murky on this…incredibly murky.

Could some mainstream journalists be better on this? Yes, absolutely... as the far-right updates it's tactics, they should too. Especially if they want to have conversations where these types are held accountable for their positions.

I cringed when I heard Cathy's point about Free Speech.

"Why should your right to freedom of speech trump a trans person's right not to be offended?"

That was really a gift to the Peterson trolls. I thought it was pretty basic understanding among journalists that the freedom to offend was an important one. I for one would love to hold on to my freedom to offend conservatives from around the world. As Peterson rightfully said, Cathy was benefitting from the freedom to offend Peterson at that very moment (hate to agree with Pete, but hey).

What I didn’t understand was the proportion of the anger. Yes that one bit was terrible...but say that and move on. Ultimately she attempted to do a good thing (at least to her best ability) by trying to expose Peterson for what a caveman he is.

Now I’m not a fan of Cathy Newman, I had no idea who she was before this whole thing. I have no emotional investment in her as a person. I just think the harassment and outraged articles calling her interview a 'catastrophe' are ridiculously out of proportion with how mediocre the interview seemed to me. It was nothing out of the ordinary - what they refer to her doing as 'strawmanning' Peterson, is her just trying to cut past his bullshit flowery language to make some sense of what his points actually are for her audience. Which he of course masterfully sidesteps because vagueness is his game, so he can’t actually be pinned to his vile positions if you don't have enough information on him. It reminded me of good ol' fashioned atheists trying to get a theist to acknowledge that a certain bit of scripture is violent or misogynistic. If you've played that game, you've seen the semantics dodges, you've seen the 'you're taking it out of context' accusations. This was just more of that. A pity many atheists fell for it though.

I will say that Cathy barely scratched the surface with the things she could have pinned him on. His sexist tradlife ideas are shit but there are better ways to expose him. Firstly, I’d have asked about his posing with a Pepe flag and a white nationalist…

Then about his friendly appearance on a neo-nazi podcast, with a host that has advocated violence towards people residing ‘illegally’ in her fantasy ethnostate.

He should have been asked this especially in the context of how he himself deplatformed (now) open ethnonationalist Faith Goldy from one of his Free Speech events, for going on a Daily Stormer (Nazi) associated podcast and not questioning them sufficiently about their beliefs. If that was something he judged Goldy on, surely he could see that he himself hasn't always met those standards.

Peterson who is also a staunch defender of people fired for their unpopular views can’t get others fired quick enough (those he doesn't align with ideologically, that is).

(As ridiculous & unhelpful as her tactics are, had this been blatant discrimination towards a PoC, Peterson's tune would be entirely different).

He who complains about the left not tolerating differing opinions, reacts this way when confronted with an opinion he disagrees with. When...Infowars...is criticized.

After holding him to account on his most blatant contradictions and hypocrisies, Cathy could have gone into his more absurd viewpoints where he considers Disney’s Frozen to be propaganda, simply because Elsa didn't need a man to succeed. How very dare she get by on her own.

Talk about fragility and snowflakery...being upset by Disney movies....tsk.

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Or she could have questioned him about a chat where he doesn't quite grasp the concept of consent, with 'race realist' and known misogynist Stefan Molyneux (who also has theories about movies like Star Wars being anti white, white genocide propaganda)

how the hell can you have free sexual expression and also not rape people pic.twitter.com/AWM0gu7rHR

— Tom Bloke (@21logician) February 13, 2017

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But then again, it wouldn’t really have mattered what she said to be honest…because his fans would have been furious with her regardless. She had the audacity to be combative with the great Peterson. This is a cult like following, no jokes.

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Had she made him look properly foolish with excellent points, they would have been twice as enraged and felt twice as victimized by the postmodern neo-marxists who are always out to get them. *sob*

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I have had many discussions with 'moderate' Petersonites, where they start fairly reasonably. It's almost as if they're reading from a script. First, they'll say they aren’t *at all* fans of Peterson (they just happen to agree with and defend everything he says and vehemently disagree with the critic). Then they jump to the fact that they are in disbelief that you could find anything particularly alarming about him at all...or that you could find him even remotely 'right wing' (there's that crypto rightwingery again). They demand that you back up your claims that he’s right wing… and from here on, it really doesn’t matter what you say.

You could show his friendly appearances with neo-nazis, his proud posing with pepe (hate symbol) flags & white nationalists, his naziesque conspiracy theories about cultural marxism being everywhere. His conservative views on sex and gender roles, his love of sharing far-right media, none of that matters. They can explain everything away with a "Oh he meant it metaphorically" or "You haven’t seen his *entire body of work* otherwise you’d know he isn’t right wing, he was doing that ironically to piss off leftist SJWs like you", the excuses are endless. And that is why this brand of right wingers enjoys vagueness so much, because it gives them plausible deniability.

Now, I’m sure there are some lectures by Peterson that aren’t far-right..but that doesn’t excuse him for times his views overlap with alt-right talking points, his alt-right associations and it certainly doesn’t excuse his free speech hypocrisies….when he is every bit a screaming, sniffling, unable to tolerate differing opinions, wanting to get people fired 'SJW' as the people he projects this stuff on to - except his idea of social justice is upholding the status quo…so SQW to be precise.

He is what he hates. And his dogpiling fans are exactly the intolerant bunch they claim the left are.

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