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unamazing-sheep21 · 5 months

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What is this genre of character called. Byronic heroine. Byronic villainess. Some secret crazier third thing, we will never know.

What we do know is that they would get along great and make the most unhinged band ever.

Characters ( from left to right): Lucille Sharpe ( Crimson Peak), Catherine Earnshaw/Linton ( Wuthering Heights), Bertha Mason Rochester ( Jane Eyre), and Rebecca de Winter ( Rebecca)

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bubblytonks · 3 months

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we could have made it in a different world for different eyes 💔

#rebecca #rebecca das musical #rebecca vienna #daphne du maurier #rebecca de winter #mrs danvers #danbecca #art #fanart #myart #willemijn verkaik #✨lesbians✨#danny clinging to rebecca's nightgown will never not get me #i'm sorry

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cookiekitten91 · 2 months

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Her voice

#rebecca das musical #Rebecca #rebecca the musical #mrs danvers #danbecca #cookiekittenart #mrs. danvers #h…has this meme been done before for Rebecca?#willemijn verkaik #i forgot danny's brooch whoops #rebecca de winter

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bullywugprincess · 3 months

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Rebecca and Danny coded

#rebecca de winter #rebecca daphne du maurier #mrs danvers #danny Rebecca #mrs de winter #danbecca #rebecca das musical

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trshtffc · 6 months

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Read the whole of Rebecca thinking that Maxim guy was such an asshole and poor girl was so young and eager for his approval I wish (SPOILERS) the ghost was real and they teamed up to finish him.

The whole book was a "girl, stop trying to please these idiots" but when the plot twist is revealed it turned into a real horror story for me because I found out how dangerous Maxim was and he thought he was justified??

I bet "the revelation" Rebecca had for him when they first got married was that she wasn't a virgin and the asshole found it impossible to love her knowing that so she throws herself at mindless hedonism to fill a life with a man who despises her.

This is a Maxim de Winter hate account.

#maxim de winter #rebecca de winter #maxim bashing #rebecca deserved better #mrs danvers #daphne du maurier

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hauntthenarrative · 9 months

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Haunting the Narrative Round 2 Side B

Haunting the narrative means that the character’s absence heavily impacts the plot. They’re not present or active in the story when their influence is most strongly felt, whether they’re alive or dead!

#polls #round 2 #side b #haunting the narrative tournament #a series of unfortunate events #asoue #rebecca #rebecca daphne du maurier #beatrice baudelaire #rebecca de winter

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callmekamel · 2 months

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Morning, Rebecca ☀️

(so @jon-withnoh gave me a prompt last week - something about all of them in bed and Danny is reading - and they are one of my favourite people)

#rebecca das musical #mrs danvers #beatrice lacy #rebecca de winter #what is this ship called #I don't know #but I love them they deserve some fluff #I can feel a headache coming but hey aren't they lovely #it's hard to draw romantic thruple fluff they always end up looking like bestie #camel art

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eleancrvances · 24 days

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their little dynamic is sooo fascinating to me actually. "she doesn't dare bully me" as if he doesn't walk the halls in fear of her figuring him out because she's the only one who can. "what do i care for his sufferings, he's never cared about mine". resenting him because she thinks he hides the grief he could show when she has to restrain hers. nobody could hate or harm rebecca in her mind, so she ran his home and never guessed what he'd done. she's his social inferior and can never harm him directly, but she's also the keeper of the house he did everything for, that's what she can use as her ultimate vengeance in the end, and he knows

#also look at dame judith and sir larry doing their thing in pretty much the only interaction they have #rebecca #rrr #mrs danvers #maxim de winter #rebecca de winter #rebecca 1940 #books #daphne du maurier #by me

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conquerthenight · 10 months

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I’ve been thinking nonstop about the time someone on ao3 mentioned that Maxim took on some of Rebecca’s worst traits as a way to cope with (or that some of his own worst traits were exacerbated by) the abuse he endured by Rebecca’s hand. And that honestly makes so much sense.

None of this an excuse for how he behaves, but I think it could be an explanation.

I mean, think about it. We know he has quite the horrible temper. In the musical Beatrice states that he was “the same way as a child” meaning that his anger issues have always existed in some way. Of course that is most likely true, but take that and add in years of emotional abuse and it’s certainly a recipe for disaster. What used to be an ordinary bad temper became something border lining on volatile over the years. We see that in those moments Maxim snaps at his second wife. In the musical, during the first boathouse scene, Maxim rushes after his wife who had run offstage in terror, as if he was about to hit her before ultimately realizing what he was about to do and stopping himself in his tracks.

We know that Maxim can be quite cold and distant when he wants to be. At times he is also super patronizing and mocking. In the musical it’s a bit less so (but even that has the “you react like a child” line) but in the book he’s constantly talking down to his wife. Perhaps he does so because Rebecca did the same to him? Of course, Rebecca definitely didn’t compare him to a child as Maxim did to his second wife, but she could have mocked him with his insecurities (his obsession with holding up his family’s reputation, his intense desire to be seen as a strong figure and the toxic level of pressure he puts on himself as a result).

And of course, we can’t talk about Maxim or Rebecca’s worst traits without mentioning manipulation and the abuse of power dynamics. And what’s more is that both of them are fully aware that they are manipulating the situation. Rebecca sought to control Maxim by holding her affairs, Manderley’s standing, etc. over his head knowing full well he either wouldn’t or couldn’t (or a combination of the two) divorce her. See the lyric in “Kein Lächeln war je so Kalt”: “Divorce was taboo for the de Winter family. The family honor was worth more to me than my pride, and she relished in her triumph”.

Likewise, Maxim knows full well that his second wife came from basically nothing. He knows she’s financially dependent on him and that should their marriage fail in some way, she would have nowhere to go and no one to turn to. He even outright admits to her that he “did a selfish thing” marrying his second wife and that he “should have waited and let [his wife] marry a boy of [her] own age”. He knows that he has (and arguably still is) manipulating the dynamics in his own favor until the very moment he confesses to Rebecca’s murder and the power shifts from Maxim to his young wife.

Both Maxim and Rebecca know that they are absolute monsters. But it’s important to also note where they differ. While Rebecca revels in her absolute assholery and abusiveness, Maxim’s situation is the opposite. He hates himself for his own assholery and has basically condemned himself to a suffering of his own making.

Ironically, Mrs. Danvers said it best: “He’s made his own hell, and he has no one but himself to thank for it”. Was Mrs. Danvers just trying to get under the new Mrs. de Winter’s skin and hit her where it would hurt most? Yes. Was it said out of bitterness over Rebecca being replaced? Yes. But was she correct in her assumption? Also yes.

And of course, the key difference between Rebecca and Maxim is that all important shift in power. Rebecca held the power for almost the entirety of their relationship, and Maxim sought to take that power back through any means necessary resulting in Rebecca’s murder. When Maxim eventually confesses to said murder, it serves as an act of giving up that power he had claimed by killing Rebecca. He can no longer hold the weight of it because he knows he is damned and thus power transferred itself to his second wife. Where he was previously codependent on Rebecca, his second wife became codependent on him upon their marriage, and ultimately he became codependent on his wife upon his confession.

This is where the adaptation of Rebecca’s traits begins to fade. Maxim becomes basically a shell of himself, barely keeping it together through the rest of the story if not for the influence of his wife. He becomes as reliant on her as she had previously been reliant on him. This toxic cycle is only truly broken with the burning of Manderley. Only then are they equals. Only then do they begin to truly grow.

Rebecca, on the other hand, never got that chance. It was taken from her by the very man she had ill used. She knew that her “pregnancy” was a lie. She knew that her cancer diagnoses would damn her to a slow and painful death. Did that stop her from perpetuating the cycle of abuse? No. Instead she continued with it until her last breath, passing the torch to Maxim in the process.

Maxim certainly was no innocent. He perpetuated this toxic cycle as well. The only difference was that the person he passed it onto ended up not only breaking the cycle, but also gave him the opportunity to heal from it. He knows he isn’t worthy of it. We as the reader/viewer somewhat know that too. And yet the second Mrs. de Winter unknowingly grants him this post Manderley fire. Maxim has the opportunity to redeem himself where Rebecca did not.

Whether he takes the opportunity or ultimately succumbs to his inner demons (figuratively or literally) is completely up to the one consuming the story.

Personally my opinion is ever changing. While the optimistic part of me believes that he does work to better himself and ultimately succeeds in doing so, the realistic part of me wonders whether that’s the case. Of course, when I am of the realistic opinion I don’t think he reverts back to the traits he took on from Rebecca and those that were made worse during his relationship with Rebecca, but rather he wallows in a state of being that is just numb to it all. He is stagnant in his recovery because he believes, he knows, that he is beyond help. Things don’t get worse, but they certainly don’t get better either.

Ultimately Maxim de Winter is a character that foretells the tragedy of abuse and how the cycle of abuse can continue in ways that those trapped within it don’t comprehend until it’s too late. He is and isn’t a victim. He is and isn’t a perpetrator. We root for his relationship with his second wife on our most hopeful days and yet we don’t on our most cynical. He is an asshole. He is a dick. He isn’t exactly the best of men. And yet he is also broken. He is lonely. He is lost.

He finds what he is looking for in the end to an extent. A love that, while not exactly the healthiest, sets him on a path to becoming a better person. The relationship between Maxim and his second wife is in a way just like the drive leading to Manderley itself. Constant twisting and turning, plenty of bumps in the road, obstacles that temporarily prevent them from moving forward. And the beauty of it is that they do, in their own twisted way. They move on from the cycle of abuse they started in, however irreparably damaged and emotionally numb Maxim may be by the end.

“Love that liberates”. I’ve seen plenty of debate over whether that signature line from the musical is applicable to the story of Rebecca and the journey the de Winters take. My two cents is that it is, although the love itself isn’t what liberates the de Winters, Maxim in particular. Maxim may delude himself into believe that the love his second wife shows him despite his crimes is what liberates him, but while it certainly sets the foundation for their liberation from the cycle, in the end it is he who must crawl out of the hell he created for himself. No one can pull him out of it but himself.

#in defense of maxim de winter #in defense of rebecca de winter #wow i never thought i’d say that #this got away from me #it’s nearly 3am #and here i am writing a whole essay on rebecca and how its characters contribute to a toxic environment #rebecca das musical #maxim de winter #rebecca de winter #mrs de winter #ileana de winter #this post got away from me #and so did the tags #daphne du maurier #meta #rebecca meta

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alicesbread · 5 months

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Love how this is cannon in the book.

Rebecca: omw to live an incredibly wild adventure!

*5 mins later*

Rebecca: Danny said no :(((

#rebecca #daphne du maurier #rebecca das musical #mrs danvers #mrs de winter #rebecca de winter

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christabelthevampire · 6 months

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The 2020 movie is bad but we can all agree that Danny throwing herself in the sea was something that probably went through her mind at least once in all versions, right?

#rebecca and mrs danvers #mrs danvers #rebecca de winter #Daphne Du Maurier #rebecca #danbecca #rebecca das musical

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winterrosewriter · 9 months

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One more thing from tonight on Rebecca...the character this time, not the book.

So many of the things Mrs. Danvers relates in Chapter 18 about Rebecca just make her sound like an absolute fucking sociopath, and it's honestly kind of awful to reread. At the age of 11 or 12, she already knows she's going to be beautiful, and she knows exactly what she can do with that beauty. Danvers even calls her a "little devil". She's wrapped her father around her finger, and knows men will fall at her feet. We know later from Danvers that she never loved any of them, and that it was all for fun. None of her relationships were serious. She can insert herself easily into adult conversations and there's no hesitation or uncertainty about her at all. At 16, she dominates a horse to the point of making it bleed heavily, and then just walks away. Hell, she cracks a horse-whip over her cousin's head at the age of 14.

But then it also just makes it sad that she never found something she really loved, the way Maxim loves Manderley. She married him because it was expected of her, but never really wanted to try to make it a decent marriage, according to Maxim. She made Manderley famous because of their bargain, but the only thing she seems to take seriously is her relationship with Mrs. Danvers. Even that comes into question because the reader only learns about it from Mrs. Danvers, because Rebecca is, after all, dead. And even then, Rebecca didn't tell her about her visits with Dr. Baker. Did she have anything she really cared about? That's a really sad way to live your life, honestly, if she didn't.

Still don't like her as a character but I've thought of some things lately that have made me empathize a bit. Just a bit.

(then again this book is open to a lot of interpretation, which is part of why I love it)

#rebecca das musical #writing #fiction #rebecca de winter #daphne du maurier #mrs danvers #maxim de winter #mrs de winter

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gayvillainera · 1 year

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gaslight (Mrs. Danvers) / gatekeep (Mrs. van Hopper) / girlboss (Rebecca de Winter)

malewife (Frank Crawley) / mansplain (Jack Favell) / manipulate & manslaughter (Maxim de Winter)

#rebecca das musical #daphne du maurier #rebecca de winter #@ the internet please know that the girlboss is used in the ironic/critical way that the full saying implies #feel free to add more if you can think of more of these sayings #i thought of this like a month ago and just remembered it

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flock-of-cassowaries · 1 month

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The First Mrs. DeWinter walked so that Amy Dunne could run.

#rebecca daphne du maurier spoilers #rebecca daphne du maurier #rebecca de winter #the first mrs de winter #gone girl #amy dunne #parallels

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neednottoneed · 9 months

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This is sassmill on my main account because I can’t change which url asks come from and I am humbly BEGGING for an angsty danbecca oneshot based on "everytime i look at you, i feel more alone."

Rebecca is slipping away from her.

It started with the haircut, or maybe before, Danny isn't sure. Maybe the haircut was simply the first time she really admitted to herself that Rebecca had grown distant. Rebecca's moods have always been as capricious as the English weather, but Danny has known her long enough to tell when something is off.

And something is off now.

"I'm going up to London next week," Rebecca is saying, though she won't meet Danny's eyes in the mirror. "I shan't spend the night, but I'll be arriving back late, so no need to wait up for me."

"I always wait up for you," Danny says, pulling the brush again through Rebecca's hair. She keeps forgetting how short it is; it stops much more suddenly than she expects.

"You shouldn't," Rebecca says tiredly.

"And what else am I going to do with my time?"

"I don't know, Danny; go play cards with Mrs Rutherford and the rest of the staff."

"The staff don't want me interfering in their fun, Madam," Danny says. "And Robert lets the brandy go to his head."

"Well, I can't be the only one you spend time with," Rebecca says, and it's the first time a cross note has entered her voice. Danny blinks at this. She's never heard Rebecca express such a sentiment before; normally Rebecca's all too happy to monopolize Danny's time and attention.

"I'm perfectly happy spending my time with you," Danny says.

"Oh, I wish you wouldn't," Rebecca says tiredly. "What are you going to do when I'm gone?"

"I don't plan to outlive you, Madam, so such a question is entirely foolish."

"You're only five years older than me, Danny, stop acting like that's such a large difference," Rebecca snaps. She takes the brush from Danny's hands then and stands.

"Why are you being like this?" Danny asks. Her voice does not shake when she does, as badly as she wants to let it. She does not confront Rebecca, not ever. That's Maxim's job. Maxim is the one whose temper matches Rebecca's own. Danny's job is to be a balm for Rebecca, to provide comfort and stability, not to question.

"I'm the same I'm always been."

"No you aren't," Danny says. "I--these past few weeks you've grown more distant, you've--I feel like you're leaving me. Every time I look at you I feel more alone."

God, how desperately she wants Rebecca to comfort her, to take her into her arms and tell her she's sorry, that she's stressed, that she doesn't mean it.

Instead, Rebecca just turns to face her, her expression something like pity mixed with a feeling Danny can't quite decipher.

"I'm not going anywhere, Danny," she says softly. "I promise."

Danny doesn't know whether to feel comforted or hurt at the obvious lie.

#danbecca #rebecca das musical #daphne du maurier #rebecca #mrs danvers #rebecca de winter #my fic #i hope you enjoy!!

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ladymelisande · 7 months

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I wanna find whoever was the actually sane soul that edited the Rebeca TV Tropes page and kiss them in mouth. It was so full pro-Rebecca rubbish before.

Bonus, I can't believe people never noticed this part:

#rebecca das musical #rebecca #rebecca de winter #maxim de winter #the fandom legit scares me tbh #the way they hate the narrator and Maxim and worship Rebecca's abusive arse #and Danvers too for some reason

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