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jaypilled · 1 year
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hey girlypop! just wanted to let you know i hid a pipe bomb in your mailbox and its set to go off within seconds! have fun xoxo ^_^
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chicoriii · 3 years
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Is Luka really truthful?
I've been thinking about Luka recently a bit and I think there's a small chance to fix his character to some extend. I've seen someone saying that Luka just got personality this season, but I can't agree with it. Luka isn't still a proper character, but more like a cardboard thing. In Truth he is a bit more human, but only a bit. Having daddy issues is not enough. In my opinion, characters can't have a personality if they don't have even one big flaw and they are very "pure". I see some bad in Luka's character, but that's not something for which he could be really criticised as a human being. He is still too pure to be even a little more believable character. And it alone makes him very annoying to me, especially along with his cringy "poetic" lines, so I really can't like him. Still. Also notice that he was "a little more human" only in Truth, in the next episodes with him, he's as much "perfect" as he has been in previous seasons, especially in Wishmaker. More, they only has shown him as more talented guy than before, that's not what his character needs. However, that episode has given a little hint that Luka could not be as much "perfect" human being like we think and I play on that idea in this post.
I will call it more wishful thinking than a theory, because I don't have enough faith in the writing team to believe there's a high chance they could write Luka like that (especially not after seeing half of season 4, since I lost almost all my faith in the writers), that's rather abysmal, but I can't not think about it for a bit.
Also if you don't know my blog much: I don't read/watch any spoiler material. I know there are already two post-Wishmaker episodes with release dates, so there could be any that says something about what will happen with Luka since he knows. Even if there's something in spoilers, please don't tell me. Also post it after Hack-san release (though I started writing before), and I haven't seen the episode yet, but it takes place before Wishmaker, so no matter what happened there, it has nothing to do with this post.
I've seen only those post-Wishmaker fanfics in which Luka is helpful (I haven't ready any, but authors made in clear in their fics synopsis\tags), but I think it's too early to claim that that's a logical route for his character. The show made an effort to convince us that Luka doesn't mind if Marinette will be with Adrien at all and he is very truthful. But what if it was a big lie from the beginning? What if Luka has been saying that he will be fine only because he wanted to be seen as a good and selfless guy, as before discovering who the Parisian superheroes are, he was sure that Adrien has no romantic feeling towards Marinette. Maybe in Crocoduel and Wishmaker he was trying to convince Marinette to confess to Adrien even more than before, but not because he wanted Adrienette to happen, but because he wanted his loved one to be rejected by his rival, so then their relationship could finally get another chance. Maybe he really believes in Second Chance(s)?
I imagine that Luka believes in destiny and he thinks Marinette is destined to him. He could think that her being obsessed with Adrien is just a childish phase from which she is going grow out of sooner or later. Sooner when she gets rejected by him.
But his hope that Adrien doesn't care about Marinette romantically has been disproved once he discovered that they are Ladybug and Chat Noir. As if Marinette loves Adrien and Chat Noir loves Ladybug, they love is mutual, they just don't know it yet (awful S4 writing made me started highly doubting Marinette love towards Adrien, because of how shitty he treats Chat, but that's another story). One thing is clear: Luka isn't happy with the truth. His reactions when he discovering their identities say more than million words.
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Discovering that Marinette is Ladybug made him shocked, which is natural reaction for everyone who knows her.
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Seeing that Adrien is Chat Noir is shocking for him as well for sure, but his main emotion is sadness. I see no other reason why he could react like that than realising that Adrien is in love with Marinette. Luka isn't malicious, so he isn't angry, only sad, but that says everything.
The common thing in the fandom is claiming that while Marinette, Adrien and Kagami can be seen as obsessive with their crusher, Luka is not. After all, he said he would be all happy if Marinette is with Adrien. All his words are always the truth, right? For me that never made sense. If Luka doesn't care if Marinette is with him or another boy, he can't be in love with her truly. Romantic love doesn't work like that. No matter how selfless you are, unrequited love always hurts. No matter how much you want to be happy seeing your loved one is with someone they love, that would be hurtful for you. So I have always seen Luka's feelings for Marinette as completely unbelievable. BUT if Luka has always believed that Marinette is destined to him, it would explain everything, there's no reason to be really upset when she's babbling about Adrien all the time like crazy. It's just a phase anyway. She'll realise who is her real love eventually, it's just a matter of time.
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Many people think that Luka's love is mature, but I have never agreed with it. It can't be mature if he lets her to treats him like a shit. He should have given up on her in Desperada if he was really mature and rational. And I don't mean the whole guitar bullshit, but that she has completely forgotten about him once Adrien appeared on the boat. It's extremely disrespectful towards him. It would be awful even if he wants only friendship from her. Friends don't treat each other like that. Besides, nothing has changed when they were dating. Marinette has been babbling nonsense about Adrien and forgetting about their dates. It's disrespectful and if Luka doesn't see that, it means his attitude is not healthy.
Take a note that all Marinette, Adrien and Kagami were trying to move on from their crushes at least. Especially Kagami, her disappointment in him and events in Mr. Pigeon 72 made her given up on him completely and a real Adrienette shipper, as she's noticed love to each other in them even without knowing they are ying-yang superheroes. Kagami who has been attacked for being brutally honest that she wants to try her chance with Adrien and she thought they could be made for each other. Their failed relationship has shown her, she wasn't right and she has accepted it. But what about Luka? Has he learnt anything? Is he really accepted that Marinette isn't made for him and is his support for Adrienette really honest? At the end of Truth he is saying that when she was ready, he'll here for her. I'm not sure if translation is correct (I'm taking the line from the French version), but if yes, it's quite interesting choice of words. It's like Luka thinks Marinette just needs some time to get ready to realise he's her loved one, not Adrien.
So maybe Luka is the one who is really obsessive with his crush, not Kagami, like people usually think, and he isn't going to accept that Marinette and Adrien are going to get together that easily?
So is Luka able to do something questionable now when he knows more than anyone else in the show? I hope he will.
Look at how another person who knows secret identity of one of the superheroes is dealing with it. Not everyone would agree with me, but I'm sure Alya has done some wrong things this season and her motivation is often completely selfish. She's keeping saying she just wants to help and while I don't think she's lying, not all her actions are noble. Sorry, but it's true. She hasn't taken the turtle Miraculous because she thought Carapace is essential for the battle, she just wanted to fight along with her boyfriend. She has almost posted pictures of Rena Furtive on her blog, because she wants to have hot material for Ladyblog. She has trouble accepting that she needs to hide when she's Rena now, because she wants to have full fun at being a superheroine. And finally, she has told she's still Rena to her boyfriend not because she thinks Marinette is wrong, she just doesn't want to have secrets from Nino (though she still has, that's only inconsistent S4 writing, in which Alya can't keep secrets those will be needed the plot, while there's no problem with those that won't impact the story). Alya is not a bad person, but that doesn't change the fact that she isn't able to sacrifice everything for greater good, what's Marinette and Adrien are doing from the beginning. And while I'm still worried that there won't be serious and long lasting consequences of wrong Alya's actions (I don't want another Optigami scenario, in which everything is okay at the end of the episode and she's rewarded for being selfish), it's been hinted that there are going to be some repercussions.
I don't like the idea of identity reveals for Alya and Luka at all, but maybe it's not like everything is going to be ideal. Alya is not doing completely fine with her knowledge and power (she knows all the Miraculous secrets and has access to the Miracle Box, it's extremely big responsibility, but she's disrespectful), so it would be unfair if Luka will be nothing but helpful. He has to do something wrong as well.
What could he do?
I can imagine a scenario in which he's in the battle in which reveal between Ladybug and Chat Noir happens and he is using Second Chance not because he thinks it's not a good thing now, but because he can't accept that it will kill his chance with Marinette definitely. He may want them to never discover their identities.
Also Luka has lied on Ladybug. We can argue if that was right decision or not, but it made me suspicious. It could be a sign that Luka isn't really as much truthful person as he's trying to make an impression.
If there wont be any problematic Luka's actions due to him knowing superheroes identities and it happened only to make him even more special and "angely", I will dislike season 4 even stronger. I already barely enjoy it.
#LetLukaBeSelfishForOnce
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bipirate · 6 years
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I found you through a mutual of mine and saw some Black Sails and uh 👀👀 That's some good shit. I haven't seen season 4 yet since I haven't bought it, but I just absolutely love this show. Mr. Scott's actor is actually a voice over artist for one of my favorite games too!
Ooh nice!!! I actually only just finished black sails lmao and please watch s4!!! It's so good. I will tag everything with black sails so you can avoid spoilers!
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