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dongslinger--420 · 2 months

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Just realised the subtle genius of lampshading how insane it is that sitcom parents know as much as they do about their kids friends by having BoJack, someone who knows the relationships and personalities of all of Penny's friends, v Charlotte, a mother who knows a realistic amount, and then has the added bonus of being weird on first watch and then Extremely uncomfortable on all subsequent watches

#what a genius episode #escape from la #bojack horseman #bojack the horse #bjhm #penny carson #charlotte carson #bjhm s2

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lakesparkles · 11 months

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how do feel about Penny Carson?

Penny's plot broke my heart in so many ways, but I love her… So much. Ever since Charlotte appeared in season one, she became one of my favorite characters. (Maybe because she's a deer and it's my favorite animal, but her design is so beautiful anyway.) So, the moment I realized we were gonna see more of her, I knew it would be something big. But nothing in the universe would've made me ready for that episode. I was already surprised that Charlotte was married and had kids, but even more with how… Nice everything was? I was loving the interactions the family was having with Bojack. And, already knowing how the show was, I knew that moment of happiness wasn't a good sign. In the meanwhile, I thought Penny was a fun and interesting character. The way she talked and acted was so real in a way, it reminded me of my teen years. During the prom, part of me predicted what would happen and I hated it already. I was very shocked. After that moment, her story was surprisingly slow but I liked it a lot. I hate when fans blame her for what happened, and she's one of the characters who I hope is living a good life now.

It's always great to draw deer :>

#ask tag #penny carson #bojack horseman #bjhm #I'm loving how these questions are making me draw characters I never did before

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wife-of-halloween · 1 month

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If I had a nickel for every time Will Arnett played a middle-aged guy who took a teenage girl to her high school dance, I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

#bojack horseman #arrested development #gob bluth #penny carson #escape from la #bonus points for the teal balloons lol

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bojackhorsemanobviously · 1 month

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Obviously Bojack is the bad guy in the Penny situation. No doubt about it. She's 17, he's old enough to be her dad. He left those other 2 kids at the ER and told them to lie for him. He clearly views her as a replacement for Charlotte and that's why he almost does it. Bad guy in every way. He was wrong.

That being said I do have one thing I wanna add that no one else seems to be bothered by:

I don't understand *why* Penny wants to sleep with him in the first place. I feel like the kiss comes out of nowhere. I don't understand *why* she's attracted to him.

(again, this isn't a critique of Penny, the obvious victim, as a person. I guess it's a critique of the writing. The story didn't do enough to sell me on why this girl wants to have her first time with the ugliest guy ever)

haha well i gotta disagree with the last part I think bojack is very attractive. maybe i just got bad taste but im such a sap for that horseface. shrugs

Story wise i do think it makes sense while we don't see it its two months apparently of bojack worming his way into the family as a second dad/uncle type figure. if he was a smarter guy he could have had something good alovingfamily butheselfishdeludedidiot

Young girls crushing on older celebs happens all the time.. what confused me was how Charlotte was so trusting of bojack despite not seeing him in a near 30 years i could def feel her still having lingering feelinngs , trying to have her cake and eat it too by keeping him around until realizing it was going to far. the whole thing is so dang sad and tragic to think about.

#i hated bojack for 2 days then decided to power through and finish the show i rem being so mad at him #bojack horseman #penny carson #god this whole thing gives me the squicks as celebs have been caught grooming others and my fav character is an awful guydangit

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necro-acid · 2 years

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I really love the style of his thoughts

#bojack #bojack horseman #bojack fanart #bjhm #sarah lynn #herb kazzaz #penny carson #art #fanart

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televisionbug · 8 months

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good damage

#art #love penny hope shes thriving #bojack horseman #bojack horseman fanart #penny carson

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bojackhorsemanblogobvilously · 5 months

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#problamatic fav #bojack horseman #penny carson #did nothing wrong

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bojackandherb · 1 year

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Purposely not thinking about anything that happened at the end of the episode.

Look at his face here😂

#FACE SQUISHY #squish him #bojack horseman #bojack the horse #penny carson #Bojack why’d u have to do what u did ugh

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xanny-zuko · 1 year

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so obviously we all know that the penny situation is probably one of bojack’s worst actions. but something to consider is his motive. not to justify his actions, they are inexcusable. but it is important to consider when analyzing his character.

now, the most popular consensus i’ve seen is that bojack did it because he couldn’t get with charlotte, so he went with the next best option. but another option to consider is...what if it was out of revenge? what if he wanted charlotte to find out, because he knew how much it would hurt her? charlotte wouldnt sleep with him, so he sleeps with her 17-year-old daughter. sa isnt a crime of attraction, it’s a crime of power, and bojack has been known to exploit power dynamics in his relationships. just something i’ve been thinking about, sorry if this was incomprehensible.

#bojack horseman #bojack spoilers #penny carson #charlotte carson #bojack #bjhm #bojack horsman s2 #bjhm s2 #escape from la #tw sa

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iminaworldofpureimagination · 1 year

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i thought these lyrics from halestorm: innocence fit rather well

#the song is about drugs but i cant be the only one having different thoughts on those lyrics #bojack horseman #penny carson #csa warning #maybe???

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cowboy-cowboy · 10 months

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my friend is watching bojack horseman

#bojack horseman #bojack #penny carson

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dongslinger--420 · 26 days

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🔥 Two in one Charlotte and Penny

Charlotte: the fact that she and Penny look so similar is genius.

Penny saying that she was just a kid and didn't know what she was doing one year later isn't realistic at all.

#charlotte carson #penny carson #bojack horseman #bjhm #bjhm s2 #escape from la #bjhm s3 #that's too much man #amelia's hot takes

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dizzybojack · 1 year

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on penny and bojack

Recently replied to a reddit post about penny and bojack that was basically trying to pin most (if not all) of the blame on Penny for what happened after her prom. This was basically my reply (edited for tumblr). Also if you find my reddit, no you didn't!

Spoilers below.

The first time I watched this episode, I also thought that Penny was being stupid during this part and was partially to blame for what happened. She definitely needs a little lesson on taking a "no" and consent, but I came to realize that Bojack was also, once again, being selfish and wrong during this storyline. Remember, Penny is JUST over the line for sex with a major to not be considered statutory rape. Bojack at the time is in his 50's. That's pretty disgusting. I concede, Penny definitely shouldn't have kept pushing and accepted Bojack's no. Her behaviour isn't excusable either and shouldn't be simply written off, but we have to keep in mind that Penny is only 17. She isn't aware of the implications of this sexual encounter. She clearly needs to relearn a bit about consent and accepting rejection, but she is a TEENAGER and the fact is that she shouldn't be in this position in the first place.

Bojack isn't stupid. When he dances with her on the top of the water tower and tells her she looks like her mom, he knows he still has feelings for Charlotte. He knows his history of sleeping with younger girls that he is a father figure to (ie: Sarah Lynn) and making terrible shitty decisions. [OP said] it was common sense for Penny to know where this would go, because Bojack has a crush on her mom, but Penny didn't know that at the time. In fact, I would flip it around and say that it's common sense for BOJACK to know where this is going to go. Bojack knows that he still wants Charlotte, he knows that Penny is young and vulnerable and willing. And very similar to her mother, as he says on the water tower. He knows his history, his feelings, his recklessness better than anyone.

I also don't believe Penny was ever "playing the victim" or trying to ruin Bojack's life. We see when Bojack goes on the bender with Sarah Lynn that Penny almost has a panic attack when she sees Bojack. One of her first questions is, "Did you come to find me?" It's heavily implied that Bojack literally gave her a panic disorder. And this is all without even being able to see how Bojack has affected her relationships and ability to trust people! Bojack was a father figure or at least an older man that Penny looked up to and trusted. I'm sure him wanting to have sex with her has affected her future relationships and caused her to be deeply mistrustful of anyone who shows interest in her.

Although he refused the first two times, that's just proof that he knows how fucked up it is when he eventually accepts. He knows he shouldn't and he knows exactly how wrong it is, and yet he does it anyways. There is no excuse for this. If Bojack weren't so self-centred he would have gone straight to Charlotte to tell her what Penny had done immediately to make sure it doesn't happen again. But he doesn't, because he's selfish and a coward. He wants to stay here longer, please, just a bit longer, away from LA and from the mistakes he's made and the people he's hurt and the consequences of his actions.

If anyone disagrees or wants to discuss anything I said, please do. I've lately come to realize more that Bojack is actually just a really shit person as a whole (not to say he can't be redeemed or he isn't deserving of love) so this post is more Bojack-negative. Will tag Bojack neg with #bojack neg so anyone can mute if they don't want to see it.

#bojack neg #bojack horseman #bjhm #penny carson #bjhm spoilers #<- ish i guess.

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peelingitwithpeels · 2 years

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I think media had wretched a lot of people’s minds when it comes to age gaps in relationships because for some reason people can watch Bojack almost hook up with his old friend’s minor daughter and still also blame Penny for what happened despite Bojack being grown enough to be her literal dad and being the adult in the situation who could’ve easily rejected her.

#bojack horseman #penny carson #charlotte carson #I literally seen so many bad tales about that episode #it’s odd how people try to make it seem like charlotte was in the wrong for how she acted when she found them #like do you think Bojack wouldn’t have went there if she didn’t walk in?

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bojackhorsemanobviously · 1 year

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