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Hey, can we talk about the fact that one of kdj's biggest traumas is indisputably the way the publishing of his mother's book affected his life. He felt powerless and on display, and it severely hurt his ability to connect with other people.
But honestly, if I saw that book at a bookstore, I would have picked it up and read it and thought wow im so glad she was able to tell her story. I would have fallen into the trap lsk sets, and never thought deeper about how it happened. And this book was said to be really inspiring and the way the other prison women stands up for lsk you can see they sympathize with her story and maybe there were plenty of women who felt seen and heard from that story.
Its popularity meant a decent amount of money was made off of it that went straight to kdj's cousins pocket. Everyone profited from this novel in some way, everyone but kdj. (That's why he's the fool that has never dreamed of his own happiness, he can't picture it, it's always been everyone except him.)
So tell me why, kimcom + everyone writing orv and collecting the pieces they knew of him and spreading them out, not to one universe like his mother, but the eternal ever-multiplying universes and that is what saves him.
The exact same action, both born out of love and despair. One ruined him, and the other brought him home.
#orv#orv thoughts#omniscient reader's viewpoint#kim dokja#joongdok#kimcom#yoo joonghyuk#lee sookyung#han sooyoung#orv spoilers#One was a lie the other is trying to find the truth
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Actually I am not rotating the blorbos in my head. The emotional weight of the story and the characters have a hold on me and are rotating me in the vastness of reality
#thinking about orv#orv thoughts#orv#but this is how I am with all my blorbos#all my blorbos#and all the stories I read
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Omniscient Reader's Viewpoint Thoughts, Chapters 101-150
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“–She isn’t the person I remember. I knew it. Still, I wanted to believe for a moment that the woman in my memories was still alive. I wanted to be with her again.”
- Yoo Joonghyuk about Lee Seolhwa, Chapter 82
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The establishment of Yoo Joonghyuk’s belief in his companions (41st regression Shin Yoosung) and difficulty ignoring the past rounds. Yoo Joonghyuk feels tired as a character, and I think questioning whether he will actually improve if he regresses enough connects with going through the motions and giving up too soon.
It’s also shown how quickly he trusts those he shouldn’t - Lee Seolhwa and Disaster Shin Yoosung - due to his past regressions. He isn’t seeing things as they are now, which almost killed him, and regression isn’t always useful.
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The way ORV has set up the invasion of privacy - selling one’s story like how Lee Sookyung sold her/Kim Dokja’s story - as almost an act of violence or a betrayal. I think it was a brilliant decision to reveal this part right before the Peace Land arc, especially how we see the desperation of the constellation from a small planet as not only desperation but being rebuked by Kim Dokja for the monetization of people’s lives, if only for 10 coins. It also ties in to how Asuka Ren’s story was used as an act of violence itself, going directly against her own ideas of Peace Land.
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Speaking of…The Peace Land arc!!! Kyrgios Rodgaim is a fascinating character that I want to study under a microscope, but ORV managed to really show how ordinary people & victims become the victimizers. A lot of drama revolving around “having to make a hard decision” usually involves someone important to the person making the decision, but the people of Peace Land are complete strangers! They’re literally small and insignificant, and it would be pitifully easy to defeat them. The constellation from a small planet themself can only donate a measly 10 coins compared to the 200,000 coin compensation for [Main Scenario #6 - Abandoned World]. They have no emotional connection to the main characters. There isn’t a character or plotline highlighted to show their humanity: it’s just immediately assumed.
It would be so easy for a lesser story to show the main character’s brutality or self-righteousness when they first appear, but Kim Dokja’s narration focuses on the people of Peace Land themselves. Chapter 121 focuses on the lives of the people of Peace Land and the brutality of the Japanese incarnations almost equally, and we see how a small person managing to inflict the smallest wound on one of the Japanese incarnations brings hope, only to be crushed by the dokkaebi Ganul almost immediately. And it’s not just Ganul being a villain - the constellations themselves are enjoying and encouraging the bloodshed. Ganul is simply giving them a story they want, similarly to how Paul forcibly turned the 41st regression Shin Yoosung “evil” to continue the scenario.
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I do appreciate the instant willingness to kill a colonizer, btw. Zero justification needed; it very much felt like a “while we’re on the way to kill the snake” type thing, and I think we need more of that. I don’t even agree with punitive justice, but some stories are way to comfortable focusing on oppressors over the oppressed, and I respect ORV for not fucking with that
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Han Sooyoung practically getting stereotypically isekaied to Peace Land via getting hit by a bus & Gong Pildu falling into a river. Convenient? Yes, probably. Funny? Most definitely.
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Kim Dokja genuinely apologizing to Gong Pildu. It’s a small thing, but I’m personally just not a fan of stories that almost seem to justify treating certain people like shit just because they’re ALSO terrible people (which. I mean. ORV isn’t free of this sin so far, but it isn’t as bad as other similar action/genre stories I’ve read 💀 & I think it actually feeds into Kim Dokja’s characterization)
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The way the Salvation Church preached itself as “freedom from the scenarios” via the same ideas of power & “salvation” as the scenarios/constellations (stories & living in the “now”).
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Aughhh…. The way Kim Dokja being the strongest incarnation isn’t even a consideration for the rest of the cast despite being the truth… him going to Han Sooyoung of all people to kill him…
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Nirvana in general was a pretty interesting character that I want to know more about, especially with the way they were compared with Kim Dokja. I think so far the swallowing of Nirvana, albeit abrupt, makes sense narratively with Kim Dokja’s own suicidal self-loathing regarding himself, but I do want to see more of Nirvana as a symbol of Kim Dokja’s own desire to live within his desire to die. Getting real sick of Kim Dokja killing off people who remind him of himself- I’m trying to learn about you, boy /joking
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Rebirthing the 41st regression Shin Yoosung as a dokkaebi.
I know others have brought it up, but I hated the way Jung Heewon being forced to relive her trauma was framed almost solely as a method of “awakening” Lee Hyunsung. Lee Hyunsung’s awakening itself was very interesting and compelling by itself - the line about reaching another heart originally being difficult (Chapter 139) & Kim Dokja offering to carry part of LHS’s burden - but it was undercut by the complete lack of agency or emotional connection with Jung Heewon. He didn’t reach her “heart” as much as just give her a hug under extremely non-optimal conditions
The weird Iris (from Russia) hate with no explanation… I don’t think it’s necessarily out-of-character, but why… let her be a brat… what does KDJ have against mean children…
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Oldest Dream: arguably could be considered the “end all be all” of TWSA world lines
Han Sooyoung: also arguably the “end all be all” of TWSA world lines
Yoo Joonghyuk: not the “be all” of any of it, he’s just him every time, but without him the other two wouldn’t have been able to be the “be all” that they are, since he is technically the “end all” that came before they could become the “be all”, technically making him the “end all first one”. Do you get me?
#orv#orv thoughts#HSY wouldn’t have known shit what to write if she hadn’t lived 1863 and been tragic besties with YJH first#KDJ also couldn’t have known shit what to dream about if he hadn’t been drawn to 0th YJH’s world line first by his existence there#(as either OD or as new!OD#depending on which loop theory you agree came first)#so even though he isn’t technically ever ‘all’ like the other two#the ‘all’ parts of them who dreamt and wrote up everything everywhere in those world lines couldn’t have spawned without him first existing#although that’s kind of what the entire ‘whodunnit’ square circle thing is about but like#to me YJH never had the ‘being everyone’ feeling that the other two might have had to deal with upon discovery of their time loop roles#because while they are all the ones who could theoretically be blamed for ‘setting the wheel in motion’#it is only YJH who remained only himself without feeling responsible for potentially ‘creating’ everyone else through their own imagination#or like#this is yet another interpretation and I may be square circling wrong again#I’m sure it will happen again in a new way!#orv spoilers
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no but the way yjh becomes protective of kdj pretty quickly in the 3rd round comes off as a little weird, but weirder things have happened in the story so you let it slide.
then you read the epilogue and the 0th turn, and you think about how the 1864th yjh relearned his sword skills a lot faster even when he couldn't remember the previous 1863 rounds, and it makes sense. you think about the obvious fondness 0th yjh had for his greatest supporter and it makes sense why yjh would be a little predisposed to liking kdj.
#orv#orv spoilers#orv thoughts#if someone kept giving me ways to achieve the impossible and save all my loved ones and never asked for anything in response and#lets me call them an idiot no consequences i too would also fall in love with them a little#joongdok
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thinking abt orv and the shift from the main part to epilogues and the hope that maybe a tragedy can become a comedy and maybe we can all achieve a comedy in the end
#orv#it's just so#ough#yeah#listening to sparks by coldplay and thinking abt orv#had been thinking mostly of kdj and yjh recently but then just now a few minutes ago today it struck me#how much it's lsk abt kdj#and ough#yeah that's#yeah.#omniscient reader#omniscient reader’s viewpoint#orv thoughts#rq's rambles
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Sometimes I do think that ORV actually helps me quite a lot with my mental state, especially when KDJ told YJH to think of all the good memories and tried to console him so YJH could continue to live.
Even though KDJ is a suicidal idiot and YJH is depressed af, they and their interaction give me more will to go on.
P/s: Can’t forget to mention HSY. She is also sacrificial as heck when she literally spent years of her life saving one person.
They three are just too precious.
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my favorite orv character is 4th wall btw
i am on chapter 484 and every time the 4th wall speaks to dojka i get so soft its doing so much for him and being so sweet
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demon king of salvation
#omniscient reader's viewpoint#orv#kim dokja#orv ruined my fucking life like two years ago#stupid fucking webnovel rewired my brain changed me as a person etc#and i cant come back from it so we're trying belated fan art as coping now#my art#fan art#art#oh this is gonna be another stupid fun reverse isekai i thought#this is gonna be so bad its good i thought#i cant fill these fucking CLOWN SHOES man
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reading ways of survival at 4am ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#orv#omniscient reader's viewpoint#kim dokja#take a break draws#i saw that meme and immediately thought of him hahahah
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we talk a lot about that one quote where kim dokja describes yoo jonghyuk poetically and gay as hell but what we dont talk about enough is how han sooyoung was the one who wrote that. i fully believe he did think something along those lines but also that description is han sooyoungs. what a funny thing for yoo jonghyuk to read. 'yeah our dead friend thought you were SO hot in this moment, let me intricately describe it' there is no way either han sooyoung or kim dokja are coming out of that situation with ANY dignity
#yoohankim#orv#fuck it im just posting my orv thoughts on my main and then reblogging them here#ive accepted my tls12lessthan3 blog isnt getting unshadowbanned any time soon#so different blog it is
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Old concept sketches for an AU of mine
#Remember how a few weeks ago I was like hey does anyone wanna hear my au idea and then never brought it up again#Yeah basically#this#my art#orv#omniscient readers viewpoint#orv au#idk if thats a tag#whatever#kim dokja#orv kdj#han sooyoung#orv hsy#yoo joonghyuk#orv yjh#yoohankim#yhk#Basically the thought behind the AU was like#I want a no scenario AU where I can basically write heaps of character study while also putting them in mundane ass situations#Like. What would motivate HSY's writing if she didnt have the scenarios#What would kdj be if he was introduced as part of the story rather than his own person (this sentence doesnt make sense ik)#What would yjh be if he started off knowing hes a character and landing in a world where he is the only one whos NOT real/alive#(Inspired by the line where yjh went sth like im the only one alive here)
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i did the cover for @jdlogbook ! POs opened today so please check it out...! ^^
#omniscient reader#omniscient reader's viewpoint#orv#kim dokja#yoo joonghyuk#joongdok#dokjoong#dokhyuk#man thats a lot of tags#anyways..... it's a really good project#the theme is AUs so i included a lot of little items to symbolize the different ones we have in this zine!#the logbook concept was that yjh traveling world lines would see and record a lot of different versions of himself and kdj :0#which i thought was really cool....
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idk how i want to draw him yet and not ready to make a srs attempt but here's a bad kdj phone doodle lol🚶🏻
#orv#kim dokja#omniscient reader's viewpoint#my art#oh yeah i didnt have ref for this fkdnfn was going off memory of the last (first) time i drew him#i cant do a serious attempt tho bc i havent read the novel so i dont have a clear image of him in my head yet...#(dont want to just copy the webtoon design hastily... if it matches my image thats fine but... idk yet)#my main opinion on the webtoon design is he's too hot/ikemen tho KFJDKDJ (this is what i thought since the beginning)#its like BONES mp100 anime reigen.... kdj is like manga reigen to me /j#but who knows maybe if i catch kdj brainrot i too will start drawing him like a kpop idol out of affection...🤷🏻♂️#like the webtoon artist prob draws kdj pretty bc they love him sm#just like how i draw jys pretty bc of my brainrot...#so who knows maybe that will happen to me too🤷🏻♂️ time will tell#my main opinion on webtoon yjh (no one asked): CUTE BUT WHERES THE T1TTY BEL- *voice muffled as i get dragged away*#(copied most of these tags from twit too lazy to retype the commentary)#EDIT: i call him reigen jokingly bc theyre abt the same age but#kdj is also mob core to me....#in that theyre both protags that dont look flashy and look more like extras/'mob charas'#yet r irrevocably unequivocably the protags of their respective stories#(just as everyone is the protag of your own life! sieze ur narrative! etcetc🖤)#also. both black haired bowlcut havers KJDJS#kdj is reigen coded (derogatory) and mob coded (POS)#hes also a 'con man like reigen..... yep hes def still reigen coded
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useless child
#ACK. i miss gilyoung. lee gilyounggg.. i missed him. so i drew him. next time i'll draw him happy.#i have a lot of thoughts about him#i love him dearly#orv#omniscient readers viewpoint#omniscient reader#omniscient reader fanart#orv fanart#kim dokja#kdj#lee gilyoung#lgy#crit's art: orv
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do you think part of the reason why dokja’s face is so unclear/censored throughout most of the story is because his self as the oldest dream (ie 15 year old him) cant imagine himself surviving to adulthood
#i was inspired to write this because of a reddit post im reading rn#sighs#ohhh kim dokja#if i think too hard about little dokja i start crying#this thought came to me suddenly in study hall and#it took me out back and shot me in the head#seriously i feel sick im so so sad for kid kim dokja#i cant go too far into analysis i know sys and ljh can see his face#and kdjc slowly are able to see his face more and more over the story#but still#thinking so hard#orv#omniscient reader's viewpoint#orv spoilers#kim dokja
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