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taliskermortem · 7 months

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i have lots to say about this episode appartently so we're gonna stick it in one post under the cut

okay five minutes into episode 8 and i already want to cry; 'you might even be happier' like you both know thats a lie right, look at their faces; 'let me go already' sand why do you have to hurt me

no no no jennie must be happy at all times what is this take it back i dont want it

straight up not the first time mew has tried a cigarette i dont care what he wants everyone else to believe; its quite nice my ass

is this fucker really trying to get sand to do his community service; wow really you're gonna pull out the orphan card what is wrong with you; sand for the love of all that is holy please grow a backbone if ray says naaaa one more time im gonna flip a table

cheum my girl, firstly fascinated by the fact that at the beginning she was only worried about mew, like does anyone actually like anyone else in that friend group, because if i knew one of my friends had been in love with another one for years and then they got together because the other one was very obviously having a bit of a spiral i would sure as hell be worried about both of them - like it's so obvious that ray is being used and is going to have his heart crushed and just straight up no one seems to care

okay now she's shitting on her other supposed friend; i love her girlfriend but she was definitely lying when she said people were lucky to have cheum as their friend i see very little evidence of that

GUMPA

wow we're really talking about licking ass

but glad to see nick hasn't totally fallen apart and is going after opportunities yadda yadda even if the trailer shows us that this will probably also get messy, at least my boy's trying

boston what the fuck dont make me cry my poor lonley boy why is no one, literally no one in his corner i know he's a shit but being that alone breaks my heart, everyone else is a shit too and they all at least got someone

quite frankly mew, i am also bored of you

im sorry but why would you invite boston and top? okay maybe boston i get because he's part of the hostel they're hosting it at maybe but top? that's just asking for trouble. unless it's like an open invite? but then why did they get notifications? (edit: so apparently cheum invited him but still, what the hell)

i feel like this was a missed opportunity to put mew in some sluttier clothing tbh

alrighty we're doing coke off the table lads

he didn't pick you ray, you idiot, you are literally the definition of a rebound; someone i should love wow what a dick

i love you mew... awkward silence

there are too many lights on at this party

the drink in the face i did not see that coming im cackling, top if i were you i would run from this train wreck

oh wow you really rejected his attempt at a kiss in private but you're literally straight up using him in front of top boy i dont care how broken your heart is dont use other people that way; ray you're an idiot if you dont pick up on this

cheum there is a time and a place and this probably aint it; my mother is dead - jerk, wow what a lovely friendship they have

oh dear i hope this isn't going to turn into a controlling situation for nick but i wont hold my breath, just give the kid nice things for once

didnt we agree to moving on together why is this a conversation i didnt witness, i need this you dont understand

moving on in a circle why is he so funny

boston my guy you have some serious balls turning up to this party but i kinda love you for it

who are you to judge me you know what this is a very valid point, boston being the voice of reason on this show they've all done shitty things to each other and i really cant blame him for being cold to nick, that shit was pretty fucked up

freddie's bi, you're bi, i'm bi, let's make out - honestly most iconic part of the whole episode i think

why didnt you come to me ray im gonna hit you, he's not your property, he's not accountable to you

I WANT TO SLEEP WITH YOU RAY YOU WERE LITERALLY JUST SUCKING FACE WITH THE SUPPOSED LOVE OF YOUR LIFE WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL

ray threesome agenda continues i see

fake freddie the only one with any brains what so ever

thank you sand. finally.

ray that was fucked up. like manipulative, controlling, red flag fucked up.

oh shit its cheum's little brother so my god boston you absolutely wrecking ball of a human being

top buddy why dont you just go home, you are clearly not having a good time

honestly boston, walking away is most definitely the right option

how is it that top has pouty eyebrows

oh shit police

top going for the bribery route i see, this will either make him look like a right idiot or make him look like the hero

cheum what the fuck is wrong with you; you're right they dont care about you but quite frankly do you actually care about them? mew yes but the other two you have always treated a bit like shit tbh

this groups needs to fall apart

okay the taking care of the passed out guy is nice but the stroking of the pass out guy is getting a little weird top

so the bribe worked? alright top there to save the day that's going to make things nice and awkward isnt it, at least ray can pay him back so he doesn't have a financial hold over him i guess

sand going through all that shit and he's still the one doing the comforting for nick, their friendship is so good, even after what sand did they're still there for each other

boston my boy, my lonely boy

too much drama he says so i'll sleep with my friends little brother he thinks, god i love this absolute disaster of a human, he tried for a split second there, he really did

PREVIEW

DADDY DAD WHAT THE FUCK

slutty boston is back im so glad he didn't get any dick in this episode and that just seemed wrong tbh

mew flirting with randomer in a bar? what about ray? for real - yeah he's taken top, but not currently by you

ooh involving the family (or at least i assume those are mew's mums), personally not a fan, leave families alone dont use them for manipulation

again ray, he's not your property fuck off

i've never been so yielding to anyone in my life well at least you're self aware i guess

yaaa that shot of boston at the end there? lonley and leaning on the bar? breaking my heart right now

#only friends #ofts #only friends the series

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doodlebloo · 2 years

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As a c!Tubbo expert, thoughts on him and techno going on a ‘bonding’ trip? Bc ngl I’m kinda worried about what it would do to his character

Okay these are my thoughts, they may be a bit negative but I want to clarify beforehand that just because I don't personally agree with writing decisions on the SMP does not mean that I think the ccs shouldn't have done it or that other people can't enjoy the plot ! So, if you're someone who's super excited for the possible c!fireworksduo journey and don't want to read anything negative abt it, I would stop reading here <3

I wanna start off by saying that these are Minecraft streamers, not professional writers or roleplayers, and while they do get payed to stream they don't specifically get payed to flawlessly write an epic and complex character arc or anything. The SMP is supposed to be just for fun, and so if the ccs dont want to do a bunch of heavy/dark/serious rp they shouldn't have to! Me being a bit critical of writing decisions doesnt mean I'm upset with the ccs or that I'm gonna stop watching or anything! It's all in good fun and if you DO enjoy bits of writing that I dislike that's completely valid <3

With that out of the way: How am I feeling about it well anon I am Terrified for it.

I'm worried that because Technoblade loves his meta jokes and Tubbo has made dozens of them just today, it will be literally no substance at all. I'm worried that after we all raved about how lovely it was for cTubbo to announce that he has constant night terrors from the festival, all we'll get as a payoff is Tubbo and Techno boating across the smp going "Wow I guess we ARENT so different after all... I feel like we're kind of friends now wow that's so crazy everyone like and subscribe for lore!"

Honestly anon I've got a lot of thoughts I won't share about the ccs being weird with like, Actively Participating in dsmp lore and then turning right around and acting like fans are Cringe for discussing lore or wanting to see it (like obvi not talking abt ppl that spam chats begging for lore and shit) but I digress. I think your concerns are completely valid and that goes twofold for this duo specifically, because most of Tubbo's lore is very reactive and based on other people and if the majority of things that Techno gives him to react to are meta jokes then it's likely neither of them will be in character.

It isn't really the end of the world, like it would be super unsatisfying and negative character development for sure but it wouldnt be the worst thing ever for cTubbo to find common ground with cTechno esp bc he already sort of reached out and reconnected with cPhil. And maybe (hopefully) we're wrong! Maybe it'll be really well done and satisfying and we'll feel super silly. But as far as I've seen Tubbo and Techno both do better with genuine character work lore where they're like being at least semi-serious when someone like Ranboo Wilbur Tommy etc is around them and is so fully in character that they kind of can't afford to be completely ooc yk?

What I'm MORE worried about is my prediction for the plot. Keep in mind this is mostly speculation on my part, it could so easily go in a completely different direction and I recognize that but this is my best guess w the info we have now.

What I'm worried about is that c!Techno may go "help" c!Tubbo rescue Michael_B (which is kind of unnecessary bc afaik cTubbo just has to. Go get Michael and then boat him home) and THEN cTechno will call in a favor to revive cRanboo. And I'm sure that sounds great for cTechno and cRanboo enjoyers! But for cTubbo enjoyers, not so much.

The fact of the matter is that cTechno won't be doing these things FOR cTubbo. In fact, it has nothing to do with him. Admittedly cTechno's interaction w cTubbo in Snowchester wasn't the most serious of lore so this may just have been a minor detail I'm latching onto, but cTechno always referred to Michael as RANBOO'S son, not Ranboo AND TUBBO'S son. Again, maybe that's minor, but it doesn't bode well for the future because it's further proof that cTechno isnt doing anything for cTubbo.

If I'm right abt what happens, it won't be cTechno saving cTubbo's child and cTubbo's husband, it'll be cTechno saving his friend cRanboo's child and then reviving his friend cRanboo. And ofc that's fine, he and cRanboo are friends of course he'd wanna help out.

But I worry that this will be what forces cTubbo to forgive him. I worry we're going to end up in a situation where cTechnoblade rescues Michael and cRanboo and cTubbo is supposed to forgive him for all the trauma he's caused solely because of that, with cTechno not having to apologize or like recognize that even though he believes destroying L'Manberg was important, he can still feel sympathy for the people whose homes and lives got destroyed. I'm worried cTubbo will forgive him because that's what everyone expects him to do. That all of that character development about his constant night terrors and flashbacks of the festival will get flushed down the drain because "Oh well Techno saved Ranboo so now we can be friends again" without the slightest bit of nuance there.

TlDr I'm worried abt where the plot is going, I'm worried about cTubbo's incredible character development being undone, and I'm worried about Techno and Tubbo making a very weak attempt at roleplay that's frustrating to watch and a disservice to both of their characters.

And I'm also worked because it feels like cTubbo is going to get sidelined again!!! Why is it that cTechno is going to be the one to save cTubbo's family? Like again we've barely seen anything from cTubbo regarding the recent lore so hopefully I'm wrong but I'm so confused about where his character is going... Because he's characterized himself as this paranoid family man who builds walls to protect his loved ones and that's like his THING. So why is it narratively a good idea for cTechno to get to help him rescue Michael and maybe revive cRanboo? Excuse me for being biased here, but I just want cTubbo to be able to be the hero and the star of the show for once. If cTubbo doesnt get to be front and center for the plot about bringing HIS FAMILY home then when the hell will he EVER be front and center???

I could be so wrong though!!! We have barely seen ANYTHING from them during this arc, and when they did talk there were Tech issues and they were off script and a billion other things. I'm well aware that I'm likely jumping to the worst possible conclusion about all of this, and I'm very much hoping I'm dead wrong and that everything goes super well!

If it doesn't, though, that's totally alright. This is NOT /NEG of either cc, neither of them should be obligated to have a heavy conversation about Minecraft Trauma or to provide an in depth character changing revelation if they don't want to. Its supposed to be fun, and if they have fun joking around, so be it! But this is just what I think about it :)

I'm not trying to start any discourse about this, if I miss any tags please let me know and if you disagree you're perfectly valid. I'm well aware that I could be wrong about all of this and I'm not saying anyone has to agree with me! Ok sorry this was so long anon lol <3

#asks #anon #ok now the tags here we go:#dsmp critical #dsmp crit #/neg #/negativity #neg #negativity #crit #??? am i missing anything #lore neg #lore critical #are those even tags ???#pls lmk if i missed something im trying to cover all my bases sjfjsjfjjsnd #not tagging as cc neg bc it isnt neg of them at all i love them both !!!!!#also thank u for considering me a cTubbo expert awh :'( /pos

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cawcawpeasants · 4 years

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Hi it's me I'm new but can you do one we're asta joins the Dark triad and how whould they treat him I know it's stupid but I couldn't think of any thing else

Hey there love. Thank you for all your kind messages, they really made me happym so I wanted to return your kindness by getting my butt out of this slump!! And sorry for the wait, I was on an excavation, but now I have Internet again and I had a long time to think about this.

So, this could be a relly great Idea for a kickass AU work. Like, what if Asta met the dark triad early on in the story, lets say even before the magic knights entrance exam. Canonically he met Fanzel around that time, too, so we’re even going to place this happening before all that.

It starts with the big What If the Spade people had their Informationnetwork better under control and had way better spies than they appear to have right now (cause yall, how coukd they have missed Asta. He was in the Newspaper for gods sake. How bad a spy do you have to be to miss that? And for a warmongering nation, they really are way too uninformed about strenghts and their enemies. Little pet peeve of mine.)

BUT! Now, they hear of this kid who got a great and strong grimoire in a place where that doesnt happen. First they hear all about Yuno and are like, yeah, okay, new blimp on the radar, we gotta calculate this new potentially powerful enemy in, and then they get the news of Asta and how he came to have a weird and shady 5 leaf clover grimoire. And now at least Dantes interest is piqued.

So, they decide to check it out, cause who might that be? Which Demon has found a new host? And how did it happen without them hearing about a big catastrophic event in Clover, which is usually Zagreds, the word demons, preferred method of getting what he wants,

Things are so interesting that the Zogratis siblings go on a road trip together, to find out more and maybe cause some menace on the way, in case they get bored. Its gonna be prime family bonding time!

They meet Asta under the skull, where he always trains, and they see him basically just lugging this big sword around but...not using either magic or the devils power. Something is weird here. Vanica also comments that the kid is kinda hunky with some nice features, but kinda veery very tiny, and she loses a bit of interest already. Zenon appreciates a dude who knows his workout, but the no magic factor makes him think of Asta as kinda weak, way too weak to be a Devil host, and he tells Dante that it might be a fluke, that their information was wrong, and that they should just go and find the responsible spy and torture him, for having them come out all this way just to see a kid play at being a knight and yell a lot.

Dante still has an uneasy feeling, that it might be a little more than just that, but he also has to agree that Asta has not shown any sign of devil powers, so he cant even ask lucifero which Demon slipped past their Network and got stranded in Clover, and this part of clover of all places too. Really, no self respecting lord of hell would do this to themselves, not even Zagred who maybe got a little desperate over the millenia.

Just as they are about to turn and leave, a voice comes up to them, asking them what they are doing. and yes, it comes up to them, cause they are in their usual and very very stealthy and absolutely not suspicious manner flying half a kilometre over the ground, maybe a little to the left, so they are guarded by the shades of the columns, and bickering with each other about first going to torture the spies, or getting something to eat before that. Just ye normal roadtrip talks.

Anyways, Asta heard them or sensed them (my boys instincts are crazy, like damn), and his gut feeling tells him something is off wht the weirdly fancy dressed floating strangers with seemingly cold eyes and spade-symbols and regalia all on them. He might not be the smartest noodle in the pot, but even he knows when he sees people in a place they dont belong.

Yeah, so, from here on out things can go a great many ways, Zenon would probably suggest they get rid of him and also that would make at least for a little amusement for now. Vanica would probably agree, cause at least they would be doing ANYTHing but staying there and doing nothing but watch a little boy. Or they could get some snacks, shes kinda hungry, for the 300th time today.

Dante tho, he still wants his questions answered. So why not ask? He floats down towards Asta, and is all like, Hello there young man, that is a fine sword youre having there, pray tell where did you get that?

And Asta is like, wow, someone likes my sword? And this little angel boy just happily wants to help people, especially those 3 nobles who seem like they got hella damn lost (and not like they are a nightmare for many captains and Julius, I mean, can you imagine all the work thats gonna have to happen, when they find out that the dark triad can just enter Clover all willy nilly?? Oh, Marx is gonna haunt them with papers for months! And Augustus voice is gonna shriek through all the castle in that unbeliievable high octave about how useless they all are, and yeah, things just aint gonna be great, but Asta doesnt know, this blessed summer child is not the brightest light at times)

Cause sister lily and father Orsi raised him right he shows Dante all about his sword and his grimoire, and Dante sees it and probably goes like !!!. And then he knows that Asta really is a demons host, but he doesnt seem to have realized it himself. How strange. He tries to ask Asta a few questions, but the kiddo just really doesnt know a thing and after a while of talking around the topic, he tries the more direct route

“Say Boy, have you ever heard a Voice inside your head? Telling you things about your magic and what to do?”

“Yeah, Yuno says thats called thinking and that people should do that more often.”

“...right. But was there one besides the regular Voice you hear when you think?”

“No? Was there supposed to be one before I got the grimoire?”

“...Nevermind”

Asta also couldnt remember ever seeing a weird figure, well not specifically because “not before you guys showed up. I think the weirdest figure is probably Yuno, way too damn handsome that jerk!”

Or sensing another Magic mingle with his, “What do you mean this isnt my magic?”

Finally, Dante asks Asta if he ever heard about the Devil, and “Yeah of course, I was raised in a church, and Sister Lily tells us all the best good night stories! Im gonna mary one day and then we tell each other all those every night!!” And then Asta got stuck thinking about his sister Lily,and Dante had to realize that its no use.

He could now either kidnap Asta and train him under the dark triad, or he could leave him be and keep his tabs on the strange kid with big dreams. Yeah, well, kidnapping Asta is, if the conversation with him was any clue, not gonna be an easy and quiet thing, and its gonna be a political mess, a headache to boot too. Also Zenon and Vanica are probably going to try kill Asta if he gets too much for them anyways, so i would be useless. He sighed, and shook his head, and shot Asta a fake smile

“Thank you for answering all my questions, boy, have a nice training session for whatever it is youre trying o achieve here.”

“Oh, Im training to become a Magic knight in a few months!”

“Ah”

“Im gonna become the Wizard king! (✧ ∇ ✧)”

“...Well, good luck with that, Im going home now”

“Thank you, also your friends left like 20 minutes ago”

Cue unhappy Dante. But at least they learned something...I think? And they went and cleaned up that Information pipe line real quick and then got something to eat.

Yeah so, I tried. Im still not back to peak form, but this was fun! Poor Dante was probably hella frustrated afterwards, but Asta really jsut doesnt know xD and later on, Asta is constantly wih people who are pretty sure to recognize the Spade royalty. I mean, they dont make it particulary hard. And Asta has his goal set, and he takes the most direct route to get there.

im pretty sure, as things are now, Zenon and Vanica are going to be way more interested too, but I really need to know a lot more about Vanica.

Anyways, hope you enjoyed, and thank you again for sending me those words of encouragement! Have a lovely day!!

#caw caw #man its been ages #im sorry folks for disappearing of the grid #and ya know what #thanks to corona #i dont have uni #so maybe if anyone wants some easy headcannons hit me up #im kinda feeling this again :)#black clover #The dark triad #Asta #Dante Zogratis #Zenon Zogratis #Vanica Zogratis #beware: no plot just weird musings and ramblings

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