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idleglowingpixels · 8 months

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I was rewatching Monster High: The Movie (2022) cause the sequel's coming out next week and upon rewatch, the fucking signs that Komos was actually Hyde's son not from the writing but from the COSTUME DESIGN for him was so striking to me that I'm pissed I didn't realize sooner.

Not only does he have the glasses, sideswept bangs and general human appearance of Jackson (minus the horns, I think in this universe Komos's mom was like a centaur or something, would explain why he's still so human-looking besides the horns), but there's nods to Jackson and Holt specifically all throughout his outfits in the movie.

(Also for the sake of ease I'm referring to the teacher as Komos cause typing Hyde Jr. or something constantly is gonna drive me nuts)

First, there's his main outfit which we see across the film as well as in promotional images, and YOU CANNOT FUCKING TELL ME the posing for his promo pic wasn't an intentional nod to Jackson LIKE LOOK AT THIS SHIT!!

The main thing that strikes me is the inversion of the yellow/gold and blue with Komos's tie and shirt, also the fact the colors are significantly desaturated in comparison to Jackson's flashy yellow and blue. My interpretation of this is that it's representative of the bad-guy/villainous interpretation Komos represents, in comparison to Jackson/Holt which seem to be a rare good-guy/positive interpretation of Jekyll and Hyde. It's like, yes this is the Jekyll/Hyde guy of this gen, his outfits are nods to G1 but is otherwise an entirely different character than Jackson/Holt. Which I mean, I do respect the writers for not having Komos be this gen's Holt Hyde and just as "Hyde's son," I feel like separating the two (three??) characters is and was the best decision. Just two different interpretations of the "descendant of Jekyll and Hyde" thing.

Another part of the decision to go with Jackson's more traditionally nerdy or professional type of fashion style is interesting to me. Komos does not want to be perceived as his Jekyll half, he wants to just be Hyde, hence why he refers to himself as Hyde's son not Jekyll and Hyde's son. And yet, it's like he can't deny his human Jekyll side. To be honest Jekyll's only referenced a few times in the movie (which okay, Hyde's the monster half, I get that, but you'd think he'd be a little more important yeah??) so it makes sense they're focusing on Hyde more but I did find it an interesting decision.

Next there's THIS OUTFIT which on rewatch made me audibly point like that soyjak meme like "THAT'S A REFERENCE TO JACKSON AND HOLT CAUSE OF THE YIN YANG DUAL COLOR SHIT"

Red and blue are mainly Holt's colors, but Holt's signature outfit's shirt is also dual-toned, split through the middle.

It's just with Komos, there's less of an emphasis on the yin-yang thing Jackson & Holt had in their interpretation of Jekyll & Hyde -- he's unbalanced in comparison to them -- hence it's not a black and white cardigan. Also, THE BOWTIE! Can't get more obvious with the Jackson nods than that.

There's also this outfit I wanted to mention, the one he wears during the Founders' dinner toward the end of the movie. Notice It's fully red-toned, where his initial outfit was mainly blue-toned, and the cardigan showed the transition between. It's like at first, he's studious and mellow-natured with a bit of flare but nothing too crazy -- Jekyll. Then when he's wearing the cardigan, he asks Clawdeen about her research, almost insisting she provide him the information she's gathered because of his desperation to lose the duality going on with him. And finally, at the end, he takes the potion his father made, fully embracing Hyde and abandoning Jekyll once and for all.

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That's pretty much all I wanted to mention regarding the outfits, but I remember when I first watched the movie, I was severely disappointed that Jackson/Holt were basically confirmed to not be making a return in this generation (or at least in the live-action films but I imagine it'd be pretty confusing to have two characters represent the same specific monster character in the same gen). They were a really underutilized character concept outside of Ghouls Rule, and I feel like especially with Clawdeen being half human in this version that they could've been friends or something!

Maybe Jackson/Holt could've served as the antagonist of the film in Komos's position, but not out of malice, moreso misguidance. Holt was kinda hinted at in his diaries to have depressive symptoms, it would've been interesting to explore that with how he might have low self-esteem because of his half-human-ness. Also, apparently Deuce in G1/G2 was half human too? Why did they get rid of that this gen??? I don't know why they keep shifting representation around at times.

Questionable decision making aside, I actually did enjoy this movie a lot. From an objective standpoint it's a DCOM-quality movie with average writing (except Frankie bro they were funny as hell in this movie), slightly more fashionable outfits than DCOMs, and a basic self-acceptance plot. There's several movies, including one or two in G1, with similar but better-executed writing and storytelling and similar themes. But DAMMIT I can't get enough of this movie when I see it. It's a comfort movie. :'D

I could go ON about the Jackson/Holt erasure all throughout this movie, especially with the rumors it was based off an abandoned movie concept for the two back in G1, but this post is too long already and I've distracted myself from my work enough. :'D If anyone on this side of Tumblr wants to hear that ramble, I shall ramble about it another day.

Also, HAPPY SPOOKY MONTH!!! My Monster High AU is beginning this month with the main 5 ghouls' designs as well as a one-shot I've written. Maybe stick around for that if you want to idk! :D

#linposts #monster high #monster high g3 #monster high: the movie #Mr. Komos #jackson jekyll #holt hyde #random ramblings #I promise I'm mentally well and healthy when it comes to Jackson/Holt :D I'm TOTALLY okay with them not being in G3 and being replaced :'D #I'm lying through my teeth LMAO #I do like Komos/Hyde Jr tho he slays #Just not in the same way as the OGs #He could never replace them qHq

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eliebee · 2 years

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i made some monster high gen 3 memes while sleep deprived

I did add alt text btw!

#monster high #monster high gen 3 #monster high 2022 #monster high the movie #monster high the movie spoilers #monster high live action #monster high live action spoilers #monster high memes #clawdeen wolf #draculuara #frankie stein #heath burns #mr. komos

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sparklyaxolotlstudent · 2 years

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So Kyle Selig, A.K.A. Mr Komos is 30, so if I want to shoehorn Jackson and Holt in G3, I’m gonna assume Mr. Komos is around the same age, as it would be relatively easy to give him an older sister, or a bit more complicated, but make him the older brother of Jackson Holt.

The Older sister way makes it a bit easier, as it is heavily implied that Komos grew up without his father, so it would be harder to justify a younger sibling more than a decade younger, specially when it’s specifically stated that the original Hyde was pretty much lynched by humans...

But with an older sister, it could be that, just like Komos was born as a “Hyde” without a “Jekyll” side, his sister was born as a “Jekyll” without a “Hyde” side. Since Komos says he’s “Eddy Hyde Jr.”, I’m gonna call this older sister Henrietta Jekyll... because I can.

So, yeah, she somehow meets a Fire elemental dude, she gets pregnant and Jackson and Holt are born.

In a reversal of roles, Holt starts attending Monster High, hiding his Jackson side, since they’re aware of the hate between humans and monsters.

Ironically, he gets targeted when people realize he’s the nephew of Mr. Komos, who previously tried to destroy the school. Deuce decides to give him a chance and befriends him explaining the whole thing, as he realizes Holt didn’t even know he had an uncle.

He later meets Clawdeen and decides to come out as half human too, introducing Jackson to them.

Shenannigans ensue (Jackson takes an interest in Draculaura’s witchcraft, as he thinks that would make him a monster too), and accidentaly free Mr. Komos, who tries to rampage again, but learning he has a nepehew (who restored him to life), Clawdeen manages to convince him of let go of his anger

#Monster High #Jackson Jekyll #Holt Hyde #Mr. Komos

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askjacksonandholt · 2 years

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My immediate thoughts after watching the live action mh movie

Holt: *hears a knock at the door and opens it* ….JAAAAAAACK! THERE’S SOME BITCH AT THE DOOOOOOR….HE LOOKS LIKE YOU BUT WITH HORNS!

Jackson: 🧍…Holt…Eddy sit down…we need to talk.

#jackson jekyll #holt hyde #mr. komos #monster high #y’all when I tell you I was confused almost the entire movie like 😭#so…here we are now…😭😭😭

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imjustavenuxwithaboomerang · 5 months

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i fall in love with komos. he makes me smile. he (with frankie) makes me want to finish this godforsaken movie in one sitting just for them to put him in krampus cosplay and throw a plot twist at me????

#this is why we can't have nice things!!!#THIS is why we can't have nice things #THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS #give me a man with messy hair and glasses and i lose all will to act like i don't even like men #they knew this about me #and they used it against me #okay so i finally watched the live action monster high #this is has been my most repeated thought ever since the plot twist #i just feel so....so ashamed #so angry at myself for not seeing it sooner #*sigh* welp off to watch the sequel when i wake up #monster high #monster high the movie #mr komos #monster high komos #monster high hyde jr #is there even a komos following???#komos #mr. komos

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beetlesanbutterflies · 2 years

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Yes, I’m still talking about Komos

Potential Monster high live action spoilers (i have not seen the movie so please don’t add any info about details in the movie that might relate to this)

Now that it’s been confirmed that Komos is the villain, i’ve started to think about how MH actually expects me to see him as a villain. Yes i know i’m the ghoul who keeps saying that she wants Komos to be evil cause she thinks its funny and will make a good story but now that I know his motivation, ive really started to think about it .

So Komos’ motivation is that his father, Hyde, was shunned by everyone in the monster world and human world, the monsters wrongfully accused him of crimes and kicked him out of the school and the humans hunted him down in hopes of killing him. Komos’ plan is to take revenge on the monster realm, specifically it seems, Monster high, by destroying the school.

And i’m supposed to hope they defeat this guy?

No I don’t want to see Monster high go up in flames, but Hyde should get some justice.

Jekly and Hyde and Komos are clearly a parallel to Clawdeen’s story. showing what could have happend to her. But what i really don’t want this movie to do is slap Komos with the evil label and defeat him. Monster high did something wrong. The monsters hold blame here, they treated Hyde like crap and that transferred to his son. what I want this movie to do I address that, both parties are in the wrong here. Komos should not destroy the school and take revenge on all monster and human kind, But Monster high shouldn’t have treated his father like that.

I saw someone talking about how this movie seems like its trying to do this big metaphor on what its like being a mixed person and how hard it is being stuck between two worlds but that they’re going about it in such a weird way and missed the mark (Mixed person speaking here) and I have to say that I agree. Making the son of a guy who was ostracized his whole life and is just trying to get some justice for his father the villain is really weird. And i’m not even going to get into the Clawdeen stuff

I also hope that maybe they don’t slap the one and done sticker on him. maybe he can come back in the animated series have a sort of redemption arch where he gets a cool nephew(s) and gets to see his family finally be accepted.

#monster high #monster high reboot #monster high live action #im kind of team komos #hopefully that doesn't age too poorly #i don't think they would have him harm students #mr. komos #jackson jekyll #Holt Hyde #frankie stien #clawdeen wolf #draculaura #i will get jackson and holt into this somehow

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wernevergrowingup · 1 year

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Komos? More like KomNO I want JACKSON BACK!

#monster high #mr. komos #jackson jekyll #holt hyde

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mistasangel · 2 years

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Mr.Komos

I think he's cute just needed a swift kick in the ass for what he did,lol really do not want to spoil the movie for those who have yet to see it but uh Komos had a major brain fart on what a Gorgon's glare did and well paid for it,lol

#monster high #mr. komos

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sherylmeyer · 2 years

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anyone else think mr. komos could be jekyll/hyde undercover? like he got shunned or whatever by monster high and he came back as a teacher preaching the same message that hurt him in hopes that it'll keep other monster-human hybrids from repeating history?

#monster high the movie #monster high #monster high theory #mr. komos

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zolarianstarman · 2 years

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Spoilers for Monster High: The Movie!!!

HOLY SHIT?????? MR. KOMOS??????? HE'S THE VILLAIN HOKY SHIT I KNEW IT WAS RIGHT TO LIKE HIM OMGGGGG I LITERALLY SCREAMED SO LOUD HE'S GONNA DESTROY THE SCHOOL <33333

#monster high the movie #spoilers #mr. komos #monster high

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nae-vis33 · 2 months

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Mr. Komos x Oc

Fanfiction:

#monster high #monster high live action #mr. komos #komos #hyde #bloom #bloom peters #kyle selig

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idleglowingpixels · 7 months

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I kinda realised that Mr Komos' song, True Monster Heart follows the same beat as the Monster High Fright song, but the lyrics are like the corrupted version of the original.

Monster High Fright is about accepting

True Monster Heart is about rejecting

Kinda interesting when you think about it

AHHHHHH WHEN I SAW I GOT AN ASK RELATED TO THIS I FREAKED OUT DFGHNBGVFDSF TY FOR GIVING ME SOMETHING TO RAMBLE SOME MORE ABOUT ANON FOR REAL! (Also sorry for the late response, this post has been developing in my drafts for like at least a week now dfgfhng)

I absolutely agree with the conflicting messages between the two songs! I know the song focuses on the story of this universe's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde in the main verses, but the main focus of the song is that message of rejection of anything and everything human.

Also, because of the Jekyll/Hyde bits, it could represent the duality of where the story starts and ends in its interpretation of a "true monster heart." Instead of Mr. Hyde's human-ness making his heart "untrue," it was his utter rejection of & research into ridding himself of his Jekyll, as well as his hiding of the truth in the first place that caused him to be found out and exiled.

His heart being "untrue" had nothing to do with the fact he was half-human, because if it were, then Clawdeen and Komos's presence in and of itself within the school would've triggered its self-destruction. That was proven as a false interpretation by the story in the movie, so it's self-explanatory. A true monster heart is one of self-acceptance, despite one's flaws or differences. That's what Mr. Hyde, and Mr. Komos thereafter, had neglected to realize before Clawdeen proved the point.

Though, I've listened to both True Monster Heart and Fright Song a few times back-to-back, to try and get where you're thinking as far as the beat, but I don't hear it unfortunately (unless you meant the tempo of the song, then yes they do follow the same 120 beats per minute!).

The closest thing I can think of as far as melodic parallels between the songs is the chanting sections. The Fright Song chant is much quicker in the way it's sung compared to the chant in True Monster Heart, however. The whole of Fright Song's chant goes in 16 beats/4 measures, whereas True Monster Heart's chant takes twice as long at 32 beats/8 measures (I was a band/choir kid lol). It's mainly due to how the song kinda drags out the point, and it definitely feels like a nod to Fright Song for sure. Fright Song's chant is only there because 4/5 of the main ghouls were fearleaders, so it was sort of characterizing the cast before actually showing their characters in the webisodes.

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Fun little headcanon/ramble that I forget if I ever mentioned about Fright Song, but with Holt Hyde being released in the 1st Signature wave with the rest of the the main ghouls and all, I think it was because he's intended to be the singer of the rap section before any subsequent content with the character was released (No offense but I don't think Holt DJs because he's a good singer sdfgbfds). This would line up with his current crush in canon with Frankie, as well as his former crush on Draculaura from either the diaries or books, maybe both? I forget. :'D Also I feel like Holt wouldn't hesitate to call Cleo vile immediately after saying she's charming either, he's very direct with his words. (I also interpret Jackson/Holt as bisexual because Deuce is included in the rap I DON'T CARE Y'ALL IT MAKES SENSE!)

Also I always interpreted the howl-like sound at the end of the rap as "Holt ran outta time/battery power for his music and transforms back to Jackson as it transitions to the rest of the song." It kinda works with how the beat kinda drops down with the howl, like a TV being shut off or something idk.

Ghoulia also debuted with Signature Wave 1 but she's only in like a second of the music video in the background, I figure it could've been budgetary reasons for the animation, to save on animating an extra character. Also I imagine flame-y hair wouldn't be very fun to animate in 2D, and Deuce's snakes moving on their own were bad enough I imagine to animate, so it begrudgingly checks out as to why Holt isn't in the animated bits with everyone else.

BUT I JUST WATCHED THE MUSIC VIDEO BECAUSE I WANTED TO FOR THE SAKE OF THIS POST AND THE GUY SINGING THE RAPPING BIT HAS, YOU GUESSED IT, A BRIGHT FRICKIN NEON RED LEATHER JACKET. He doesn't have the dual-toned shirt BUT IT'S WHITE AND THIS IS CLOSE ENOUGH FOR ME Y'ALL! XD

If any straws for these dumbasses can be found I SHALL GRASP THEM fr they're my blorbos :'D

#linposts #monster high: the movie #monster high #true monster heart #fright song #mr. komos #clawdeen wolf #g3 clawdeen #featuring a headcanon ramble for #jackson jekyll #holt hyde

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luminori-of-the-stars · 1 year

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The Uncle Komos concept still keeps the J/H boys and him in the lore, so I like it.

Komos is that weird uncle who is oddly cheerful and randomly breaks into musical songs. He always has his guitar with him (THAT HE PULLS OUT OF NO WHERE) and loves to infodump about history.

I'm pretty sure he was a one-off character who we're never gonna see again, but I just wanted a reason for the boys and him to coexist.

Also, he looks scarily similar to Jackson (especially in style and appearance) but he has the same musical interest as Holt.

#mr komos #eddie hyde jr #holt hyde #jackson jekyll #monster high #monster high gen 3 #monster high g3 #mh g3 #they both can coexist #uncle komos au #Are we keeping the “destroying the school” plot or no?

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dinersaturn · 2 years

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