I may sound stupid but I hope this AI art trend will just be a really bad time just like NFTs were.
I don't get how AI bros can think of themselves as artists. I get the frustration of not being able to draw, I've been there, and I guess I had the "privilege" to have the time to learn but.
Please.
To any frustrated person out there
It's never too late to learn how to draw.
Pick a pencil, draw that cool action scene you have in mind, copy Hatsune Miku's box, imitate that fucking lime mouth drawing, anything. It won't look good, but I swear it will if you keep going. For god's sake use that frustration to fuel your motivation. It takes only passion and training to become an artist, talent is a fraud.
Idk, art is the thing that makes us human in my opinion. And I can't imagine a world where there's no comics, no novel to read, no movies to watch, no music to listen to... I'm so sad that artists are always always treated so poorly when they make life worth living. Can you imagine a world without them? Life would be so monotonous man... Artists deserve more respect and recognition.
Someone pulled many all nighters to make this manga you enjoy, someone took many hours of their free time to write that fanfic you're reading, someone bit their fucking finger and went crazy while making the fanart you look at for only 5 seconds (hi that's me sksksk)
Anyway, my fellow artists, writers, musician... In fact when I say artists I'm not only talking about people drawing, I'm really talking about anyone producing art in any form sksks
Anyway. You guys, I love you all so so much and everyday I'm thankful you were born and you make what you make. I'm so proud of you for that, you're all so strong and admirable. Please keep making art, I don't say this just as an encouragement, I say it as someone who really enjoy and admire what you make. You're making me happy, you put little stars in my eyes and my heart. I swear I tell the truth when I say that you make someone go wah with your art, you are shaking someone's world, you are changing an aspect of their life forever with what you make. I know the amount of effort and love you put in your art, I know the horrid pain you're going through while making it, I also know the joy you feel when you're done making it. We share all that together and I think that's wonderful. There is such beauty in our struggle and that's something AI and their users can't understand.
I love you all, deeply, and I'm so thankful for everything you do. π
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If you still do the flower ask thingys.. ππ πΌπ‘π‘ π€π π©πππ’ ππ€ :)
HoooH boY hEre we gO-
Alisons: Sexuality?
I sexually identify as a can of beans
Amaranth: Pronouns/Gender?
Cis female she/her
Amaryllis: Birthday?
27 September
Anemone: Favorite flower?
All flowers pretty,, but stargazer lily, rose, dahlia and cherry blossoms
Angelonia: Favorite t.v. show?
I don't watch tv but I'll list some other stuff i like to watch:mha, beastars and aggretsuko
Arum-Lily: Whatβs the farthest youβd go for a stranger?
Idk depends on scenario??
Aster: Whatβs one of your favorite quotes?
"Kanye West he likes, fingers in his ass."
Aubrieta: Favorite drink?
Any Milkshakes or smoothies (mostly banana and strawberry for milkshake and p much anything for smoothie)
Babyβs Breath: Would you kiss the last person you kissed again?
I've never had kith
Balsam Fir: Have you ever been in love?
Well you see yes but actually no
Baneberries: Favorite song?
I listen to a lot but to keep it short:baby in the kitchen, in my mouth and friends slowed (chase atlantic)
Basket of Gold: Describe your family.
We p chill fam
Beebalm: Do you have a best friend? Who is it?
Irl bestie,, shes not on tumblr lol
Begonia: Favorite color?
PinKKK
But i like most colours
Bellflower: Favorite animal?
Cats,,,,
FoxES,
ANYTHING CUDDLY AND CUTE
Bergenia: Are you a morning or night person?
Night
Black-Eyed Susan: If you could be any animal for a day, what would it be?
I'd be like a doggo bc it would be the most fun i think-
Bloodroots: When you were a kid, what did you want to be when you grew up?
I wanted to be a vet but then when my granny asked me "but whos gonna clean up the animal poop?" I was like "eWW pO0pP!" and then decided that mayb i shouldn't be a vet
Bluemink: What are your thoughts on children?
They're either really kind and sweet
Or literal demons from hell
Legit no inbetween
Blazing Stars: What are you afraid of? Is there a reason why?
I'm afraid of lot of things-
Borage: Give a random fact about your childhood.
I was one dumbass bitcg-
Bugleherb: How would you spend your last day on Earth?
Idk eat pizza and cry or smth ajakamkw
Buttercup: Relationship Status?
Single
Camelia: If you could visit anywhere, where would you want to go?
NEW YORKKK, CONCRETE JUNGLE WHERE DREAMS ARE MADE OFFF THERE'S NOTHING YOU CAN'T DO NOW YOU'RE IN NEW YOOORKKK
Candytufts: When do you feel most loved?
When someone hugs me or just generally spends time with me
Canna: Do you have any tattoos?
Nop
Canterbury Bells: Do you have any piercings?
I used to have piercings when i was a bab but eHh haven't worn them since and i dont think my ear holes are big enough now-
California Poppy: Height?
4'10 grrr I'm the omega midget and I'll devour ur ankles
Cardinal Flower: Do you believe in ghosts?
Nop
Carnation: What are you currently wearing?
Pant, pink top and black hoodie
Catnip: Have you ever slept with a nightlight?
I think i have??
Chives: Who was the last person you hugged?
My mom and my dad
Chrysanthemum: Whoβs the last person you kissed?
I never kith
Cockβs Comb: Favorite font?
I dont have one so imma say sans bc it always looks out of place and makes me laugh-
Columbine: Are you tired?
No
I feel like screaming and jumping around my room like a crackhead
Common Boneset: What are you looking forward to?
Nothing in particular ig
Coneflower: Dream job?
Smth kinda fun and art or design related hopefully,,,,
Craneβs-Bill: Introvert or extrovert?
Introvert but i also get lonley easily
Crocus: Have you ever been in love?
Nop,,,,
Crown Imperial: Whatβs the farthest you would go for someone you care about?
I would get run over by 5 monster trucks, jump off a plane, get mauled by 10 bears, get trampled on by a stampede, get brutally tortured for 12 hours straight, yeet myself into the Grand Canyon and then break all my bones with my bare hands if they weren't broken already
Ok basically i care a lot
Cyclamen: Did you have a favorite stuffed animal as a child? What was it?
I had this st bernard plush called Sparky and this lion named Sammy,,
Daffodil: Whatβs your zodiac sign?
Libra
Dahlia: Have you done anything worth remembering?
My memory is legit so bad it's probably concerning uHHH
Daisy: What do you feel is your greatest accomplishment?
Mayb art??
Daylily: What would you do if your parents didnβt like your partner(s)?
Ehhh i might reason with them and then if they still disagreed I'd just keep the relationship a secret
Dendrobium: Who is the last person that you said βI love youβ to?
My parents
False Goatβs Beard: What is something you are good at?
Ehhh arT
Foxgloves: Whatβs something youβre bad at?
EhhHh everything that isn't art-
Freesia: What are three good things that have happened in the past month?
Oh boy here comes my shitty memory-
Hmmm
Idk but I'm mostly happy that I've been more social and stuff and i feel like im kinda coming out of my shell a bit
Not sure what to say for other 2 bc nothing in particular has really happend?
Garden Cosmos: How was your day today?
Ehhh oK??
Gardenia: Are you happy with where youβre at in your life?
Mayhapsn't
Gladiolus: What is something you hope to do in the next year or two?
I hope to pass all my exams and get an okish job mayb
Glory-of-the-Snow: What are ten things that make you happy/youβre grateful to have in your life?
1.fRIENBS ILY MY HABIBIS
2. Fammm
3. eHhh yummy food,,
4. Drawing and uhhh art
5. EPIC MUTUALS
6. Ok idk what else aside from like serious stuff like house and etc.-
Heliotropium: What helps you calm down when you feel stressed?
Drawing, crying, venting to a friend/parent
Hellebore: How do you show affection?
Hugssss,kith,cuddle, *draws u stuff*
Hoary Stock: What are you proudest of?
MmmmmMy aRRt?
Hollyhock: Describe your ideal day.
Wake up
Don't go to school
Vibe with friends
Sleeb
Hyacinth: What do you like to do in your free time?
MmMmMM aRT-
Hydrangea: How long have you known your best friend? How did you meet them?
Ehh 8yrs? We met in hell school
Irises: Who can you talk to about (almost) everything?
Friendos
Mom
Laceleaf: How many friends do you have?
6..?? Aa idk theres some people that idk if they'd consider me a friend or not,,
Lantanas: Whatβs the best compliment youβve ever received?
Idk any compliment is best compliment for me,,
Larkspur: What do you think of yourself?
Ew yucky grΓΆss
Lavender: Whatβs your favorite thing about yourself?
m y a r t
Also my hair bc its soft and wavy,,
Leather Flower: Whatβs your least favorite thing about yourself?
Everything else-
Lilac: Whatβs something you liked to do as a child?
Climb trees and do dumb shit
Lily: Who was your best friend when you were a kid?
Same irl bestie i mentioned before
Lily of the Incas: What is something you still feel guilty for?
MmmmmmMMM,,,
Lily of the Nile: What is something you feel guilty for that you shouldnβt feel guilty about?
MMMmMMmMMMMmmmMMm,,,,,,
Lupine: What does your name mean? Why is that your name?
Well I chose Fae bc i thought it sounded pretty
Marigold: Where did you grow up? Tell us about it.
Idk what to rlly say lmao
Morning Glory: What was your bedroom like growing up?
Kinda the same but i had toys everywhere-
Also when i was like 5 i had this legit fucking cursed thomas the tank engine shaped bed that i actually found a pic of but it's FUCKING HORRIFYING SO I PROBS WONT SHOW HERE-
Mugworts: What was it like for you as a teenager? Did you enjoy your teenage years?
EW BEING A TEENAGER SUCKS ASS HOW DO I UNDO????
Norwegian Angelica: Tell us about your mom.
Hi mom ily ur epic
Onions: Tell about your dad.
Hi dad ily ur epic
Orchid: Tell about your grandparents.
Omg i miss my grannies sm bc i couldn't see em this year bc nasty pandemic
Pansy: What was your most memorable birthday? What made it be so memorable?
Haha shit memory gor brrRR-
I don't really remember too many specific parties but when i was like 7-10 i had these epic parties in those birthday places with the giant play areas
I kinda wish i wasn't too old to go to them sobs
Peony: What was your first job?
I haven't had a job yet
Petunia: If youβre in a relationship, how did you meet your partner(s)? If youβre not in a relationship, how did you meet your crush/how do you hope to meet your future partner(s), if you want any?
Hmmmm idk? I haven't really thought abt that but i don't really mind i just wanna find someone to vibe with,,
Pincushion: How do you deal with pain?
I cri
Pink: Where is home?
Home is home home
Plantain Lilies: If you could go back in time, what is one thing you would stop/change?
Now where do i start...
Prairie Gentian: Who is someone you look up to? Describe them.
I look up to people that are kind, caring, brave, funny, cool or stronger than me ig?
Primrose: Describe your ideal life.
Basically my current life minus school, stress,pandemic and responsibilities lmao
Rhodendron: What is something you used to believe in as a child?
I used to believe in ghosts after i thought i encountered one
Ricinus: Whoβs the most important in your life?
Hermmmst
Rose: Whatβs your favorite sound?
Peoples laughsss also music
Rosemallows: Whatβs your favorite memory?
Bro i dont have one,, my aphantasia makes it hard for me to remember stuff-
Sage: Whatβs your least favorite memory?
A
Snapdragon: At this moment, what do you want?
I wantttt better chargersss thattt donttt telll meee thatt myyy tablett will finishh chargingg innn 1 dayy andd 7 hoursss
St. Johnβs Wort: Is it easy or difficult for you to express how you feel about things?
Kinda difficult but im opening up more
Sunflower: What is something you donβt want to imagine life without?
fRIENDS,,,,,wAh
Sweet Pea: How much sleep did you get last night?
8 hrs
Tickseed: Whatβs your main reason to get up every morning?
Idk ig i kinda have to go to school and do stuff
Touch-Me-Not: How do you feel about your current job?
Non existant
Transvaal Daisy: Whatβs your favorite item of clothing?
My black and white stripy top, and all my hoodiess
Tropical White Morning Glory: Describe your aesthetic.
I don't think i have just one aesthetic bc im drawn to so many different aesthetics at the same time-
Like vintage, neon, dark, spoopy, pastel, cute, etc etc
Tulip: What would be the best present to get you?
OMG I LEGIT JUST SCREAM AT ANYTHING ANYONE GIVES ME-
IF SOMEONE GOES OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE ME SMTH I CRY,,
Vervain: Whatβs stressing you out most right now?
π€
Wisteria: How many books have you read in the past few months? What were they called?
I haven't been reading anythinggg
But i should really finish reading Percy Jackson bc it do be picking up dust-
Wolfβs Bane: Where do you want to be in life this time next year?
Everywhere
Yarrow: Do you know what vore is?
Mmm yummy π
Zinnia: Give a random fact about yourself.
I am currently living and breathing yes
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THE Otokoyaku: Cosmos Troupe Edition
THE Otokoyaku was a Kageki feature from 2016 featuring Top Stars talking to younger up-and-coming otokoyaku in their troupes. The Cosmos Troupe interview was published in October and features Asaka Manato and Sakuragi Minato.
This talk seems to have been recorded early in performances for the 2016 Cosmos Troupe production of Elisabeth, so there is considerable discussion of their roles in that show.
THE Otokoyaku: Cosmos Troupe Edition (Asaka Manato and Sakuragi Minato)
Asaka: I think that Zun-chan (Sakuragi) is the person I've had the deepest connection with since transferring to Cosmos Troupe.
Sakuragi: Same here. Maa-sama (Asaka) is the senior actress I'm closest to. (Making a deep bow)
Asaka: You're bowing so deeply! (laughs) You often had my roles in junior performances, so of course I would take an interest in you.
Sakuragi: I had [your] role of Kirchheiss in the first junior performance after you moved troupes, for Legend of the Galactic Heroes @ TAKARAZUKA, and ever since then you've done so much for me. I was ken-4 at the time, and it was my first time being given a large role, so it was all stuff I didn't understand at all. And then, even when Maa-sama would talk to me, I would get so nervous that I'd stutter. But even so you would listen to me so kindly, and also you went so far as to tell me about how you got into character so thoroughly.
Asaka: I remember that. It was my first time performing with Cosmos Troupe as well, so all kinds of things were really new to me, and I wasn't sure what everyone on Cosmos Troupe would think of me, so I was like "This is me!" and putting myself out there fearlessly. At that time, Zun-chan was the one closest to me and helping me out, too.
Sakuragi: Yes.
Asaka: My first impression of Zun-chan is that you were a really cute kid. You have a cute face, and you were so diligent and earnest...although you did stutter a little (laughs), I was sure you would have a lot of progress. And now it's a sort of strange feeling to think that I'm performing together with that kid as Der Tod and Rudolf in Elisabeth. But even though it's a bit strange, I had always been thinking that things would end up like this someday, so it doesn't feel uncomfortable at all. And when I see you and the senior actresses in the role switch* mutually encouraging each other to improve, it makes me feel like you've become a really reliable person, so that makes me very happy.
Sakuragi: Thank you so much. But it's also because Maa-sama taught me so much that I was able to come this far.
Asaka: You're saying such nice things... Is there something you're after? (laughs)
Sakuragi: No way, no way (laughs). While you always tell me such valuable things during each and every performance, and I have a lot of memories of that, the thing that sticks with me the most is from the rehearsals of Gone With the Wind. I was allowed to be in the Finale "Saint Louis Blues" number, but I couldn't manage to do the dance stylishly enough, so the director got angry and was calling me out by name. I stayed behind all by myself to rehearse afterwards, and Maa-sama told me "As long as you're doing your best, there's definitely someone who will see you," and totally boosted my spirits.
Asaka: I don't remember that! (laughs)
Sakuragi: (laughs) Ever since then, when you would reach out to me it would make me so happy, and it made me feel like I needed to meet those expectations, so I really wanted to grow and become someone who could be a support for the rest of the troupe.
Asaka: Wow, hearing that makes me so happy. I've had my eye on you since Galactic, and in junior performances you had my roles one after the other, like Ashley and Giroudelle.
Sakuragi: That's right.
Asaka: In Gustav III, you were able to experience a junior performance lead, and when you played Radames I thought "Oh! She's sparkling so much, this is great!" After that, in the Hakata-za performance of A Song For Kingdoms, I felt like you seemed a bit different. When you were given a Bow Hall lead**, I felt like you had really developed a sense of responsibility.
Sakuragi: I just dived into it heart and soul. In this show, that finale number where I can dance wearing a black tailcoat opposite Maasama, that number is like a dream come true, I always feel like I have to do it right so I always put more focus into it.
Asaka: Since the production has begun, it seems like you're putting out more and more in that number, so as we're dancing together I can really tell that you've absorbed a lot and gained more confidence. Even in the rehearsals, out of the three of you, you were the most junior but since you were in a central role, I felt like you needed a huge level of determination. And within that, you were able to take how you wanted to perform and make it happen. That level of expression and amount of energy...I feel like you came to understand that if you 100% fill yourself with that and then release it, even if you're not doing something gradiose you'll still be able to communicate to the audience.
Sakuragi: I still can't really tell whether or not I'm coming across to the audience, though... During the rehearsals as Rudolf, you told me that I couldn't just say the lines if I wasn't totally overflowing with emotion. You said "I thought you had a bigger range of emotions than that," and all kinds of things to make me improve myself. I think it's because you really understand me that there is that progress and reaction.
Asaka: Progress...reaction...it's like you're studying for the entrance exam (laughs).
Sakuragi: (laughs) In rehearsals, you weren't just playing Der Tod, but also Sisi and Franz.
Asaka: In order to help you create Rudolf's inner self, I had you do his role starting with child Rudolf***. In Elisabeth, the drama and the songs are fixed--it might not be 100% exact but in general it's the same. But if you don't do it with your own feelings, it starts to feel like you've borrowed what someone else is doing. Acting is lying, but it's how genuine you can make that lie look that's where the fun comes from.
Sakuragi: Yes.
Asaka: Day by day your performance has become deeper and more intense. It's fun to see and it's also helped to bring out new emotions in my performance as well. You smile so nicely in the 'Dance of death' scene. I wish I could show the audience.
Sakuragi: What!? I smiled?
Asaka: Yes. You know, I think that helped me understand that Rudolf had no regrets, and he had put everything he had into his life.
Sakuragi: Thank you so much. In this show, when I was playing Rudolf, his instability and other aspects were really different from me personally. This made putting the character together difficult and I really struggled with it. Maa-sama, how do you handle creating your character when you're playing someone really different from yourself?
Asaka: First of all, I don't focus on a role being different from me. I go from what is written in the script, and try to dig into what is between the scenes. Even if I think they're different from me, as I get closer to the role, I try to become more like that myself. In order to find those feelings, I try to go further in my imagination that even just finding things I can relate to in the character. Of course, it's important to find those points that I can relate to, but what is there to relate to in the god of death? (laughs) But, he loves, and even though she does't look back at him, he spends decades thinking "I want the living you to love me"; that, I feel that I can understand in a way. So I do it like that, I don't reject anything, I just accept everything and try to become the character, I suppose.
Sakuragi: I see...
Asaka: If you start out thinking it's different, it's hard to make up ground from there, right?
Sakuragi: It is. "I don't like this", "That's not it", "I don't get it"; that becomes a chokepoint and makes it take a long time to get things started.
Asaka: If you think about it like that you're going to waste a lot of time, don't you think. But it's okay! You really made Rudolf your own.
Sakuragi: Yes, thank you so much.
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Asaka: You're a big unusual, aren't you, Zun-chan. One would think you were a really naturally chipper person but you're actually a bit moody, aren't you?
Sakuragi: Wah~ you know everything (laughs).
Asaka: So you'll show your dark side when people would be expecting you to be sunny all the time. But then you can turn on your sunny side, like when you played Radames, or like in Sky Stage programs, there are times you show a silly side too.
Sakuragi: (laughs)
Asaka: Having Yin and Yang, possessing those two sides, is a really interesting thing for an actor to have, so I want you to make sure you don't lose that and learn to control it.
Sakuragi: Yes. I've always thought of Maa-sama as the sun, and when you were playing Radames I felt like you were a sun god. Everything around you had such a bright atmosphere, and everyone in the troupe was smiling too. And this time around you're playing Der Todβthe incongruity of that person I saw as the sun playing the darkness really made me think how amazing the breadth of your acting abilities must be. In Der Letzte Tanz, I was singing an off-stage solo****, so I was trying to become more attuned to how Der Tod felt, and I started to see so many new sides to Maa-sama, and felt like those things were part of your appeal too. I hope I can also come to control those dark and light elements like you do.
Asaka: Zun-chan's grown in the four years since I've come to Cosmos Troupe has been amazing. Not just your skill and abilities as a performer, but your inner self has grown as well, which is helping your onstage performances improve. As you carefully pile up all of these things, you find new barriers. Then you put in the effort that it takes to get over that barrier, which brings you to the next thing, and you engage with that just as carefully; I think that aspect of you is amazing.
Sakuragi: It's what I've been given to do, so...
Asaka: After you clear one thing nicely, then the next thing comes along. This might be taking liberties, but I think that in terms of personality you resemble me, Zun-chan. So I understand how you're feeling and I'll think "Do your best!"
Sakuragi: Thank you so much! Is it alright if I ask you a few things about your offstage life?
Asaka: Go ahead!
Sakuragi: What time each day do you feel the most relaxed?
Asaka: When I get in the bath after the last performance ends, maybe.
Sakuragi: Ah, I get that!
Asaka: Especially in the summer, it's still light outside so it feels really luxurious. You still haven't been in the Uni Baths*****, right?
Sakuragi: Yes. I'll do my best so I can make it into that world quickly!
Asaka: Well, in this one case you'll be stopped by your year level, and that's a barrier you can't get over (laughs).
Sakuragi: (laughs) Also, in your own residence, is there something you're focusing on in your interior decorating?
Asaka: Right now, I'm into a West coast beachy style, so I'm working on organizing my room so I can redecorate. I love this painting I bought recently based on a photo of the ocean, and I have it sitting on a white wood shelf. You can come over to hang out if you want.
Sakuragi: That would be great, I'd love to!
Asaka: Come over, come over~ (laughs).
Sakuragi: I'm so happy I could ask you so many different things today. Besides obviously everything you've said and taught me, I've stolen everything I can from you by watching and learning from you onstage. Although I'm on the smaller side, I came to want to have such a big presence, like you have, that I can change the atmosphere of the stage and make people not notice my size.
Asaka: That makes me really happy to hear. But, your physical size doesn't have anything to do with it. Thinking back on it now, when I was a junior actress I was just tall, I didn't have any substance. It was after learning from experience and accumulating that learning that I was able to perform confidently onstage, I think. I think it was watching the senior actresses onstage that I learned the most from, so hearing that you were studying that way makes me really happy. Of course if I notice something I'll say it, and I think there are things you can notice from people telling you, I think the very best thing is to watch on your own and learn from that. Zun-chan, you already have a good sense of that, so I look forward to see more from you. Please continue to grow more and more as someone who supports Cosmos Troupe.
Sakuragi: Yes, thank you so much!
* Sakuragi Minato was the youngest of three performers sharing the role of Rudolf. The other two performers were Sumiki Sayato and Sorahane Riku.
** The 2015 show Portrait of the Heir.
*** Rudolf is played by two separate actresses in Elisabeth.
**** There are a few lines in one section of Der Letzte Tanz that are from Der Todβs perspective, but performed by an off-stage singer.
***** There are multiple bathing areas for performers in the Takarazuka Grand Theatre complex. They are divided by seniority, with the Uni Baths being restricted to the most senior performers.
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Tell us about the 2p Allies!! If you dont!!!!! Mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! π€π€π€
ah shit here we go....
UNDER CUT BC THIS IS ACTUALLY REALLY LONG IM SORRY.,.,. IF U WANT THE DESIGNS FOR THE EXTRAS LIKE 2P ANCIENTS ILL SHOW JUST ASK AND STUFF,.,
I suppose ill start with FACE
mistew Louis aka 2p France is! depressed. obviously. lowkey like fanon but not AS bastard. His past was very unepic bc he used to be very abusive and had an awful ass alcohol addiction and he took out his repressed childhood abuse by his mom Dana (2p gaul) on matt which was not good fucking obviously but they tight now and like louis loves him a lot and him and his mom have made up and he loves her a lot and she loves him and in this house we really love healing!!! (hes married to oliver and oliver makes him smile so much wah...)Allen is a whoremonger BICEABVCIH hes pretty much kinda fanon but hes just chillin? His boyfriend is 2p Korea aka Yeong and hes a serious -_- businessman and Allen is a :P swut. Theyre married and love eachother very much and have a kid named Nari she is so so cute and they love her to death!! Allenβs best friends are Luciano, Tom (2p ireland), Kuro, and Matt (obviously). He used to have a weird rocky relationship with Oliver because man that revolution shit then seeing him again at like world meetings years later is likeΒ βaβ. but eventually they healed over it and now oliver is like wahh my SON!!! Hes had a rocky relationship with Dustin (2P Molosia which we basically have him as Allenβs son bc like cmon that makes sense idk how it wouldnt but guess what its free real estate fuck you!) and its just now getting sorta better but it hasnt quite reached mutual healing level yet in fact dustin is still very bitter over allen.
Matt.,.,. is very epic.. total 100% man.. he is lumberjack and heee HAS A FARM!! HE LOVES HIS ANIMALS SO MUCH.,.,., and and... HES MARRIED TO FLAVIOOOO!! They love eachother so so so much and Flavio is like yes I love my yee yee boy wow hes so amazing. And Matt is like wow love my gucci gang husband look at him go...
OLIVER,. AGH. OKAY SO HIS FAMILY IS VERY VAST!!! I LOVE OLIVERS FAMILY A LOT.... (AND ARTHURS I LOVE KIRKLANDS A LOT AHAH..) SO!! His mum is!! Brittania! aka GWENNNNN!!! I LOVE GWEN! SHES AMAZING. YOU KNOW WHO ELSE LOVES GWEN? HER HUSBAND BIORNA AKA 2P CELT!!! Oliver is the youngest of 5 (now 4..) BROTHERS. His brothers from oldest to youngest are Robert/Robbie (2p Scotland), Tom, (2p Ireland), REDACTED (who is tomβs twin aka 2p north ireland but hes very very bad and we killed him off for a good reason trust me), Owen (2p Wales), AND FINALLY OLLIEEEE!! Ollie has a good relationship with all of his alive brothers and his mum and dad love him unconditionally! Oliver is in a happy marriage with his childhood love of his live and he adores his kids to death! Oliver wasnt always super super peppy and some days he isnt because his depression can get to him but he always gets help from his family and friends!
now we in the rochu territory BOIZ
Viktor mistew 2p russia wow ugh love this man. He used to be a bottle of shit and abuse his sisters and a few other select people but hes not like tHAT anymore god wow that was such a shitty time for so many people ugh. But anyways now he is in a very happy marriage with Zao aka 2p china and he loves him a lot. He has an excellent relationship with his sisters now Bella (2p belarus) and Ivannka (2p ukraine). He has two epic parents Vlad(imir) (2p Keivan Rus) and then Cath(erine) and i forgot who she represented but like yes...... Cath and Vlad love eachother very much. Shy wife and big bad looking husband but goes soft for his wife........... Viktor is really epic he has a horse dog aka the please can i get some beets dog........... i stan him viktor is a god
ZAO IS THAT. BITCH.! He is a transman icon and is so so cool. He loves all of his kids SO SO much (aka like all the asian countries tbfh) and like WwaAHH!! He was actually... super tame like he doesnt really have an ~abusive~ esque past bc hes just chillin most the time and he has struggled with his own self worth but he figured it out and said fuck you to everyone who was in his way of being himself as a happy person and even as a trans person. hes a really powerful person and icon and he loves his kids and husband so much gn
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also think tank
a white lecturer using the n-word when quoting literature in a lecture?
I think she used it once outside of quotation as well
certainly not meant in a disrespectful way, just seems unnecessary
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better have a justification at least but if you just use it out of the blue it always seems like some attempt at provocation
'i can say this because my interests are purely academic'
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we're reading uncle tom's cabin, so it's hard to avoid
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should only be quoted verbatim if absolutely necessary, if there's no alternative
I think
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yeah seems like she could have avoided it pretty easily
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if she's making no acknowledgement of the word's relationship to her privilege, that's rly not good
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yeah she's older so there might just be an outdated perspective there
'I'm just quoting the text, it was anti-slavery so I'm fine' sort of mentality maybe?
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still
she would know about the contemporary attitude to the word
and she should at least mention that! ugh
like it doesn't sound malicious or super super racist, but eh
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Yeah I feel iffffy about it
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should mention it!
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Trying to work out if I should send email
and if so how to word it
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mm
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be interesting to actually properly discuss it
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yep
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heck Iβd be interested to know more of a history of the word
basically teach properly why its offensive
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Yeah, I might bring it up in the tutorial
different teacher, but maybe good discussion
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mm that seems appropriate
i'd love to hear how that goes
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uhhh there was someone who used it at Bar Oussou οΏΌ
the host reallllly shouldβve said something
and I normally would but just too tired for confrontation
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Yeah βββββ was telling me
Sounded very cringe
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v unfortunate
most disappointed in yhe host tbh
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he maybe had a old-worldy attitude to it and didn't mind
or was too cowardly lol
which do u think?
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I think he thought it was in the context of the poem
she didnβt use it to degrade someone directly, but the word itself is degrading
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ugh but the poem is in the context of fuckin oussou
yep
ppl need to have a think before using words
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I just think its great to have a stage to do emotional work, but it can cross a line into normalising shitty white behaviour
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I went to a coloured school so I canβt b racist wah wah wah
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and you have to consider your audience
if your rant is dehumanising or brushes aside/causes suffering u gotta reconsider
felt pretty ashamed on behalf of bartender/various black audience members
not saying that dumb white shit would be acceptable with a different audience, but her obliviousness was kinda astounding
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wow yeah cringefest
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lol spoken word scene as a whole can b so lame haha rings true to why I/we left
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so macho!
that's what I liked about talkbox
some sensitivity there, gentleness
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still, I just wish people read more lok
*lol
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yep
I wish I read more
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like the stylistic range is generally pretty lame
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I guess that's why anyone reads
mmm
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I wish I read more too
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hahahaha
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:')
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donβt mean to shit on everyon, I just think the scene as a whole and the conception of poetry is lacklustre - it doesnβt seem like the time for poetry, sometimes
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ppl too distracted by netflix uwu sounds like phones but too much
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doesn't seem like the time for art, sometimes!
hahhh
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its definitely a time for music
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I think there's a place for poetry
It's just raps and memes
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yeh but
I play dat long game
there might not b a place now but Iβmma fkn make one
whether you like it or not lol
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Oh yeah fair
go 4 it
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loll
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I just mean that I think 'poetry' has evolved into other forms, and now the traditional form is struggling to find a place
I mean does anyone pay attention to Victorian satirical cartoons? I donβt
I think itβs also tho that the low brow is more apparent in the moment, the high brow more apparent from a distance
the shit sinks, basically
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elaborate?
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time brings forward higher brow material while a lot of lower brow stuff falls back
or like
thereβs an art for getting through your days, and thereβs an art for elaborate long form spiritual liberation
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so u don't mind about a lack of audience now if your work has staying power?
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different works have different digestion time
and yes
that is what Iβm saying
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hmmmmmmm
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hmmmmmmmm?
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personally I don't know whether I'm prioritising the reception of my work or its value to me right now
i feel poetry/art in general are useful tools for thinking about the world
useful philosophical tools i guess
and idk whether i'm learning for the sake of my own knowledge/making 'better' art or learning so what I put out into the world is better received
I suppose the two aren't mutually exclusive
but yeah - feeling fairly indifferent to the idea of creating work that will persist right now
part of me feels more comfortable with being lost forever lol
or at least that I should become comfortable with that, bc that is what will happen inevitably
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I just think in this atmosphere of complete denial of the arts as an important component of society, as well as the stigmatisation of ritual and other mystical practices that used to house what we now might describe as an artist, its important that we follow our intuition rather than give in to a system that routinely prevents us having access to basic resources
like I want to be there for whoever is there when this period comes to end and those peoples are looking for anything to rudder them, whether or not Iβm alive
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you want to add to the cultural record?
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I want provide a map for future generations
is how I would put it
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how do you feel one can ensure the persistence of their own work? or are you just hoping it'll be around for others
I suppose whether or not anything lasts is out of ur control past a certain point
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for one I make an effort to give away a lot of work
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I also store it all and make sure that that stockpile is kept w care
but I also think thereβs something to be said that I try and operate within many pre-existing canons
I also itβs important to use the more meme-y, short stay work to bring attention to the slower works
yeah, re: canons, like tanka and before that wakka as poetic forms stem back as far as a thousand years - perhaps more
by putting myself in conversation with the ancients... idk it feels a bit like entering a cultural refrigerator haha
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mm
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sometimes I find it better to see my individual works as modules that make up a whole more prescient than its parts (Morton lolz)
soo... maybe my work wonβt carry the same weight until I finish, so to speak
who knowsss but this how I think about it lol
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best to try and contribute something I spose
rather than do nothing w ur resources
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Iβm weird with this shit
u donβt have to be
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mm it seems fairly simple to me and not that weird
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not everyone should spend their life tending their gravestone
itβs a job for a particular type of person, and I am it
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but in a sense everyone does anyway
everyone does things with the future in mind or without it in mind I suppose
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and i guess that influences what you leave when you die eheh, whether you do it consciously or unconsciously
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I just am particularly stubborn that I have something to offer - I think its partially a result of being denied that a lot in school, I found other ways to have social bonds that were more... non linear
bonds with past peoples, and inadvertently bonds with future people
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I find it frustrating that its seen as arrogant to suggest your work should be read after you die - if anything its remarkably humble as I'm acknowledging that I will never properly see the fruits of my labour
it's a ridiculously isolating position to find oneself in, where your best friends - books, music, content - have no form of human intimacy with you and completely defy all survivalistic, lizard-brain humanity
plus you're just on a total different dimension from most people you meet
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mm you're in a very specific position here
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lol goodluck catching up βΌβΌβΌβΌβΌ
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unrelated btw
(βΌβΌβΌβΌβΌ posts a meme in chat)
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see y'all @ da rally (in reference to the meme)
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where and when is this?
oh oops
thought you meant a real one
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hahaha
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xD
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structurally is the meme ok ?
took the photo the other day, and just added the text.
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yes are u going to weigh in on the conversation tho lol
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nah not really
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meme fine
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I have so little to add
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well hm
why make memes?
why not write novel?
do memes have staying power?
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it's a question of what timescale is important to you at any given time maybe
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oh absolutely - not trying to infer a hierarchy here, I just think there are different approaches for different problems
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sometimes I'll say something to someone so they'll remember it for tomorrow, sometimes I'll say something to someone and hope they'll remember forever lol
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I don't think I care about staying power that much
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memes have such a short lifetime, they're like cultural mayflies haha
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Yeah defs
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why tho lol
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Because the art itself can date while still inspiring change
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yeah so using it pragmatically like a single use tissue
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If you create something short lived, it (with the help of other artists producing similar work) is able to push art and society in a specific direction
The butterfly effect I guess
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it's true that you have more effect in the current conversation
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mm
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but that conversation draws intensively on a language formed by the ancients
so the two are dependent on each other, a back and forth
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and that's dependent on their work's longevity?
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not following ur question
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not following your point haha
hmm
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so you're suggesting a works longevity is crucial in that it helps reinforce and update the ancient language in which short term work of the future will be influenced by?
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mm
also - what if of all the work you make, it's only a meme that survives the passage of time?
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basically... like you're just reiterating points that have been made more in depth in 'higher' brow culture - that's definitely how I feel when writing raps
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like Roman graffiti surviving on the walls or whatever
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did you a hear copy of the I Ching, the Chinese numerology classic more than a thousand years old, was found in the 70s and had a heap more sections and a different order?
effectively completely changing the understanding of the I Ching
gotta get those nice lead storage chambers ayyyyy ahahaha
it was found buried in a coffin, obvs haha
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mm
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a lot of Chinese philosophers only exist in so much as someone else described them
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But what does that changing of contexts of that piece actually mean for us?
Is updated Ching from the coffin helping us in any way?
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I think for me finding the I Ching and looking over it is like a person in a thousand years finding a functional iPhone
it gives great insight into human impulses regardless of time
and offers a way of writing the past a new, which in turn presents a new future
(thinking of the cowboy article you sent me)
reconceptualizing the past IS the future
look at 'Make America Great Again' or calls to restore the caliphate
both are founded on histories that have more to do with our current state than the actual happenings of the past
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I do see where you're coming from
I like the idea that it's important to preserve our work for understand the past better
And I hope that someone in the future will have a clearer understanding of our time through your well preserved works
But what fucking future
is it
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haha but like
looking back
we see people been asking that for a veeery long time
I get it seems on a new scale
but we're on a new scale too
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It does seem that yes
Also if we do survive and keep on teching on
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I'm for an integration of the human/natural binary where we properly acknowledge our mutual codependency, the earth and humanity that is
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Are we even going to be translatable? Is the functioning iPhone found by the future person going to even be able to be translated?
Or will it be meaningless because everyone is already part of the grid
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where artificially effecting the climate for the benefit of 'nature' isn't seen as strange but completely akin to Aboriginal burn back practices
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i guess it's productive to hope that it will be translatable
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we've always interfered in the running of nature
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mm
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ehhh idk we translated fucking hieroglyphics
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Or future tech can look into the past and someone is watching our lives as we type this now, constantly being understood through our context in a way we can't comprehend through our recording processes
shrugs
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I mean yeah, imagine if the internet was even vaguely archived
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You probably have a better understanding of how the future will pan out than I do tho
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even if 0.1 % was kept, it would be a massive resource
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No sass intended there, I'm sincere
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lol idk I just try to see a bigger picture and it keeps me calm
remember me old saying?
we survived the plague
and nukes
lol
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I just don't see the issue with creating short term work, especially if it is preserved
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oh neither do I
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Like a meme may have more impact than a novel rn
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well it could be argued that we're yet to survive nukes but I see your point
impact on various timescales
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I've heard the plague make be thinking of making a comeback too haha
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mm
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oh duh peasantry is fully hip rn
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but like
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bring back the boils, they look great with my Balenciaga sneakers
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lol bubonic chic
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Pretty close to heroin chic tbh haha
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not jking that was tb
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but like, I don't find a huge amount of solace in the fact that we survived the plague
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"The Victorians romanticized the disease and the effects it caused in the gradual build to death. For decades, many beauty standards emulated or highlighted these effects. And as scientists gained greater understanding of the disease and how it was spread, the disease continued to keep its hold on fashion.
and the severity of the corsets was known to harm the lungs in such a way that would increase the likelihood of transmission LOOOL
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mm Balenciaga look out
idk it's a question of what capacity we survive in
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lollllll
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quite depressing to think about
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eating disorders have a pretense
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what if ecocide leaves a few insular eco fascist regimes who gradually diminish over centuries
always engaged in pointless wars of attrition with one another lol
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I mean you could probably say the same thing of colonial regimes now
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just because we can survive, doesn't mean my outlook should b at all rosy :((
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point is its a big ol' world that has plenty of room for pain AND love
any future pain you think is imminent probably already is happening, and nonetheless breakfast tasted good this morning
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'The hipster middle class would dress with raggedy beards and large jackets and refuse to use deodorant, perhaps to reflect the look of people suffering from homelessness at the time. It is suspected that this made them less likely to be hired, and therefore more likely to become homeless themselves.'
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ahahaha
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mm that's true hahhh
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Planning on making this into a full essay. Might not be popular now, but I think it has staying power?
Soz for shitposting haha
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I was talking with β²β²β²β²β² a while back, and something struck me - she said, "I never thought this age would have its own fleet of particular medical conditions."
(or something like that lol, translated via my nerd brain)
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Yeah that didn't quite sound like her
But that sentiment is great
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'fleet'
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In that ofc there is, but also wow yeah ofc!
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mmm
hahh these conversations should be recorded
so we can all think about em without scrolling up endlessly
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I do like the idea of people reading these works in the future tho
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and also so that they can be preserved for 10,000+ years of course
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In the same way we read the letters sent between dead artists now
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mm
very true
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mmm
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messenger is not a particularly stable storage medium
and also is more vulnerable to third party scrutiny
although the fact we're reading artists letters now means that medium is also pretty fucking vulnerable to scrutiny lol
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I fucking found the word! (sorry was searching for it so hard)
Neurasthenia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurasthenia
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Americanitis lol
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uhh the page doesn't rly talk about this, but its like a condition of over-working effectively, and people would try and get prescribed the pills to treat it as a way of signalling they were a dedicated worker
its total hokey
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wow
yeah you mentioned this a while back
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oh I've heard a similar thing
in Japan
were workers will pretend to fall asleep at their desks to show how hard they're working
No idea the trust behind it tho
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to this day, "In Japan, shinkei-suijaku is treated with Morita therapy involving mandatory rest and isolation, followed by progressively more difficult work, and a resumption of a previous social role. The diagnosis is sometimes used as a disguise for serious mental illnesses such as schizophrenia and mood disorders."
a dignified mental illness uwu
none of that lower class shit
I'm a classy fuck with money, I don't get the same mental conditions as the poor lolol
reminds me of now: I don't have shitty parents, I just have adhd
(not to deligitimise all uses of adhd, just over diagnosed)
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mmmmm i feel u yes
this has been a wild ride
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yes Iβm leaving to get late lunch
uwu have a good day in this cosmic spider web lololol
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:')
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Like the burning of this charcoal fire, our years too will soon expire Kobayashi Issa
listening to Krista Tippet talk with Maria Popova, this particular phrase resonated with our conversation: we live in a world where disruption over-fetishised; we need cultural stewardship to help along new waves of disruption
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How would u define cultural stewardship in a practical sense?
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caring for the legacy of those past as a means of refreshing their insight for a new age
a very straightforward example would b the importance of new translations, in this regard - as our understanding and depth of connection to Japanese society has deepened, so too have our translations
dusting off the books so to speak
in some sense I see that in our music too
or reappropriating to a new context
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Well remasters are a time terry literal example
Fuck
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time terry
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Pretty* not time terry lol
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lime berry
yeah exactly
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Slime Jerry
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I mean rereleasing is an obvs example mhm
but more abstract examples are how Iβve exported into both your brains Bridle/Steyerl/Haraway via conversation and art lolol
Iβm helping it move from one place to another
same w Zappa lol
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also - looking after artist friends
being generous
I feel these are acts of pre-emptive cultural stewardship
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haha yeah definitely different time scales it could function on
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looking after and maintain communities
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hosting open mics lol
helping teach ppl poetry
lollll
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not allowing hate speech to creep into open mics lol
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Truuuuu
Or anywhere for that matter
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not becoming so dusty that you actually have a detrimental impact on cultural progression
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I think religions only exist in so far as they have active practitioners
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Tru
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I think my sense is, in religion, this same argument plays out with orthodoxy versus mysticism
Maintenance of buildings is in there too for religion
People being assigned paid positions as the keepers and givers of religious knowledge
oh yeah thinking a lot here of Shanzai, βββββ, and the idea of an object as a lived practice
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when home I'm gonna do my best to archive this conversation
mmm
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youβre going to steward our conversation bout stewardship
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this is all going in
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...the tv where I am says βThe comedian getting behind βKnow Thy Nutsββ and there are big walnuts on the screen
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???????
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βI didnβt realise chemotherapy would be such great comedic material!β
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Huhhhh
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lol
highly recommend
https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000429408054https://itunes.apple.com/au/podcast/on-being-with-krista-tippett/id150892556?mt=2&i=1000429408054
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