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Two amazing photo edits by Tim Buckle for proposed pre-Hartnell "Morbius Doctors."
The first is based on Doctor Who's original producer, Verity Lambert:
The second is based on the series' first director, Waris Hussein:
I am very tempted to write some fanfic for these incarnations!
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It'll never not amaze me the depths and vast expansive-ness of Doctor Who spin-off content. Can any other fandom or show truly say that they have a 'universe' in the same way that Doctor Who does? You have decades of audio dramas, licensed, partially licensed, and unlicensed. Books about the main character, books about the main characters friends, books about timelines that never were or might have been! Movies with villains from the show and promotional shorts that occupy a secret third special place between plain fun and actual canon. Is all of it canon? Is none of it canon besides the show? Are only the bits we like canon? YOU decide, because you have decades and mountains and worlds to choose from.
Not to mention that this all gives fans the easiest in to make fan-content, fan doctors, etc and they do, hundreds of them! They have been for decades!
The Whoniverse is ever expanding, vast in a way that few can truly grasp onto, and you'll never be done discovering it. I'll never not be in awe of it.
#doctor who#doctor who eu#the whoniverse#torchwood#faction paradox#gallifrey audios#bernice summerfield#the Sarah Jane adventures#Forgotten lives#morbius doctors#iris wildthyme#jago and litefoot#doctor who vnas#virgin new adventures
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The two aspects of the Graeme Harper Doctor, with and without "psychic beard."
(Again, based on Paul Hanley's character designs and the Forgotten Lives books.)
Also: this incarnation was ginger! I think the Doctor has since really missed the ginger hair. 😁
#doctor who fan art#sketchbook stuff#morbius doctors#forgotten lives#graeme harper doctor#brain of morbius
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My list of incarnations for the Doctors
Please note this list does not include any post-Ncuti doctors as I couldn't fit them lol
#doctor who#classic who#new who#nuwho#eighth doctor#the other#the infinity doctors#thirteenth doctor#the curse of fatal death#the timeless children#the timeless child#morbius doctors#ulysses#doctor who timeline
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Fugitive Doctor 🤝 Season 6b Second Doctor 🤝 Holmes Doctor
Working for the Time Lords and being angsty about it
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Forgotten Lives 3
A third and final set of FORGOTTEN LIVES tales…
A person is the sum of their memories. A Time Lord even more so.
But some people live so long that there is no longer room for all the memories; they find themselves diminished, whittled away piece by piece…
For many years, Doctor Who has implied that William Hartnell played the Doctor’s first incarnation — but in The Brain of Morbius, we were given glimpses of eight stern-faced men in assorted historical costumes — Doctors before the one we know as the first.
What were they like, these forgotten Doctors? What worlds did they visit, and what adventures did they have there? Who were their companions, and who were their enemies?
And perhaps just as interesting — what sort of stories would this forgotten prehistory of Doctor Who have told?
‘The Lungs of the Birastrop’ by Paul Driscoll
‘Who Needs Enemies’ by Jay Eales
‘Admission to the Unknown’ by Ian McIntire
‘Hope Springs’ by Chris Wing
‘The Swan and the Flame’ by Kara Dennison
‘Scientific Advisor’ by Daniel Tessier
‘The Country of the Young’ by Philip Purser-Hallard
The Seven Scholars and the Storyteller’ by Simon Bucher-Jones
Edited by Philip Purser-Hallard.
Cover art by Jon Huff.
Cover design by Cody Schell.
PRE-ORDER ONLY. PUBLICATION EARLY DECEMBER.
ALL PROFITS FROM THIS BOOK WILL BE DONATED TO ALZHEIMER’S CHARITIES.
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a random headcanon for each of the Morbius Doctors because why not:
Barry Doctor: He's the Doctor who first beat Fenric and carved chess pieces out of bone
Banks Stewart Doctor: He met Jack Harkness during the Blitz once and they shared a bottle of wine. neither knew who the other really was nor will they ever know.
Baker Doctor: he used to sing the Zagreus rhyme to Cedric and Jilly when they were little. Jilly loved it, Cedric found it scary and unsettling
Hinchcliffe: he changes the colour scheme of his outfit and TARDIS interior whenever he gets a new companion. He wore blue with Rue (because it rhymes, you see) but with Swan he changes to red or green
Camfield: functioning alcoholic
Harper: she only wears the psychic beard to fuck with people and judge their personal prejudices, anyone who actually gets to know her will quickly discover that she vastly prefers feminine terminology
Holmes: he has a special interest in botany so his TARDIS has a lot of potted plants in it
Gallaccio: he loves indian food and always smells of spices. also Chuckaboo's remains were used to build the Sonic Cane in Let's Kill Hitler (this will sound horrific out of context)
#this post is the result of an incredibly boring bus journey#forgotten lives#morbius doctors#doctor who
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FORGOTTEN LIVES: A Modern Morbius Doctor
So since Forgotten Lives is available digitally for the month of February, it gives me more opportunity to discuss Doctors that are a little more forgotten. Or, in the case we're all fans of, PNGs that look like staff working on the show that self inserted themselves as the Doctor. We're all familiar, by now, with the eight members of production staff that wore period clothes in the place of all those famous actors that... didn't line up to be pre-Hartnell. It's funny, but it doesn't it feel more like the show? The faces before the Doctor being those that really came before them, the people that kept the wheels spinning through an era of the show, multiple eras in some of their cases!
But who's to say that "The Brain of Morbius" is the only time we saw production crew turned Timeless Children? Who's to say they even played the titular hero of the show?
If anybody was going to add themselves to the peculiar line-up... it would be Steven Moffat, wouldn't it?
If you were growing up in 2010, then you were there for Doctor Who Series 5, starring Matt Smith (obvious Morbius Doctor joke) and Karen Gillan, the first series showrun by Steven Moffat. It was far from his first time working on the show, having notably written "The Curse of Fatal Death" for Red Nose Day 1999 along with a handful of iconic episodes littered throughout the RTD1 era of NuWho. What also debuted in 2010 following "Vincent and the Doctor" was a trailer for Doctor Who's latest attempt in the video game market - Doctor Who: The Adventure Games.
This episodic PC game covered five episodes encountering Daleks, Cybermen, Sontarans and Vashta Nerada, before production was ceased a year later. What is most important for this discussion is episode 3 of the Adventure games, "TARDIS".
In a bottle episode set entirely on the TARDIS, you traverse through two different locations. The first is the console room but the second is more exciting, as we saw the Eleventh Doctor's Drawing Room. We were encouraged to rummage around and learn about some of the Doctor's collection, seeing different items from throughout space and time. Dozens of items were littered around the room that could be interacted, but we're only going to talk about the portrait.
On the left is the Portait of Adriaan van der Hoop, a banker and politician from 19th century Netherlands. On the right is the redesigned portrait in the Drawing Room. The intention with giving this portrait longer darker hair holding Time Lord tech was to make the appearance closer to Steven Moffat, which then raises the question of this post. Unlike "The Brain of Morbius", this is a simple Easter Egg that had no intention to reimagine the history of the Doctor. But in the wake of "The Timeless Children", there are new possibilities.
The issue is figuring out WHO this portrait is. Luckily, we have options.
Option 1.) The Doctor
It's the option that, as a Forgotten Lives fan, is more fun to imagine. The Doctor having an anachronistic portrait of himself with a new face? It's a mystery that'd grab them! The issue is that there isn't much else there - the only reason this grabs as being the Doctor is the same reason that the Morbius Doctors belong to them, because the face is based on the crew behind the camera and the eight previous examples belong to our lead. However, there's a more compelling option...
Option 2.) The Master
This one has a lot more ground and isn't too difficult to presume, especially with this video by Captainjimipie covering the theory. The Master almost has a whole unseen regeneration cycle, meaning there's a lot of space for this portrait to be a previous incarnation. The portrait also, importantly, appears to be holding a Laser Screwdriver which was used by the War and Saxon Masters. While it would be strange for the Doctor to have a portrait of the Master, the Doctor is using his Drawing Room as a storage room so would make sense to be kept.
But there's a specific option that's much more fun and really needs discussing...
Option 3.) Both
There is no evidence, this would just be fun. We've yet to have the Doctor and the Master share a face at the same time (we were so close with Dhawan!Doctor) but what if they did? A portrait of a forgotten Doctor with the iconography of an unseen Master, the two closest friends and enemies sharing a face.
It's fun to debate and consider who these people were and, if you're a fan of Forgotten Lives, then you're already well aware of it! The biggest appeal to Forgotten Lives is getting eight brand-new original takes on the Doctor, and the biggest benefit is raising money to fight Alzheimers.
You can get a PDF copy from the link below until the end of February.
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Forgotten Lives 3 Lore Dump
Just a bunch of lore related observations from FL3
Framing Narration (Fourth Doctor/T Baker POV)
Mindbending was not invented by the Time Lords but by an arthropod species with ‘umpteen’ lives.
The Master was better at it than the Doctor at the Academy
George Gallaccio
The Lungs of the Birastrop is two years after Doctor Crocus and the Pages of Fear on Earth
The TARDIS is still a police box
The Birastrop are part of the Cult of Morbius, they do not believe in the Elixir of Life
The Doctor claims he used to be a friend of Morbius, but he seems to be bluffing
Varne can fly the TARDIS
The Doctor believes he made the firecrackers that caused the events of this story
Varne departs and a new companion, Agnes, joins in this story.
The Time Lords have been directing this incarnations efforts from the shadows, he is already considered a renegade by this point.
The firecrackers were actually made by a group of Time Lords on their final incarnations (Led by Sorianius) who had swallowed Deathworm Morphants to merge with the gunpowder.
The Doctor believes he may have killed Morbius
Framing Narration cont.
The Morbius Monster’s lungs are that of a Birastrop
The Doctor was unaware of these lives by this point, though they didn’t seem to be “erased”, merely forgotten.
Robert Holmes
The Doctor put in a healing tank frequently
He seems unfamiliar with this incarnation, and the clothes, but he also clearly has amnesia from being pulled out of the tank. (This is due to him coming out of his infiltrator persona)
By the time he reaches the hall, he’s settled in to his persona again.
His most recent mission prevented ‘a big old civil war’ and dismantled the war machine of ‘a recently deposed President’ (Morbius).
The Morbius civil war occurred during this Doctor’s era
He infiltrated the enemy side as “Bretor Ohm”, this was a new body but not a new incarnation. (Chameleon Arch?)
His failure in his final mission is responsible for Morbius’s escape (In actuality, Sellin used a vocal command to halt him)
Morbius was of House Aurora
Sellin had also given the real Bretor Ohm the Doctor’s biodata as a backup plan, but he escaped and captured Morbius whilst the real Doctor distracted Sellin.
Ohm and the Doctor ended up escaping in a TARDIS (But he was presumably later recaptured)
Framing Narration cont.
Upon reaching Holmes, Morbius realises that the Doctor is an active enemy of his, he redoubles his efforts to push the Doctor back after this point.
Graeme Harper
This Doctor has not been home in a very long time.
Morbius’s was in power during this Doctor’s era. That is why they ran away.
This Doctor has ‘raised families’
Alexandra Justine Collins is travelling with the Doctor
This incarnation disappeared into the Portal of Transformation after contemplating returning to Gallifrey. It is unclear if this is intended to be the cause of this incarnation’s rejuvenation.
Framing Narration cont.
This incarnation was secretive enough that the echo of their persona was still deflecting secrets from Morbius’s intrusion during the mindbending battle years earlier.
The Camfield incarnation horrifically lost his family (Cold Fusion) and the Fourth Doctor is still able to feel the pain even with centuries of distance.
Douglas Camfield
Another companion, Carol Williams. Stowed away on the TARDIS.
After the Loomborn revolt, the Camfield Doctor was forced into hiding.
He has left Dattany for a little while so he could heal from his family’s deaths.
The Doctor and Tallis (Someone who worked for him back on Gallifrey) believe some of his family has escaped the massacre. They go to investigate.
Morbius’s rise to power was occurring during this Doctor’s era.
Cedric and Jilly are still alive on Earth so were not related to the children killed in the Loomborn revolt.
Phillip Hinchcliffe
This Doctor parted ways with Rue eventually and settled down on Earth (Paris 1792).
It had been either 4 or -156 years since then depending on the perspective.
The Order of the Spheres and Time Lords eventually fell out, the Doctor’s handlers and the Unity were different groups.
After settling down on Earth, the Time Lords are still trying to find him. The Sisterhood of Karn uses this to blackmail him to take Françoise to Karn.
Françoise (Swan) becomes a new companion in a stripped down timeship (The Exedra) headed for Karn.
He is being pursued by another renegade called ‘The Citizen’, he wants the Elixir of Life from Karn. The Doctor leaves him to the mercy of the locals on Durcrow
The leader of the sisterhood is O’Hercha.
The Sisterhood has seen the Doctor prior to this.
The Time Lords regain contact with him in this story and intend to bring him ‘back into the fold’.
Framing Narration cont.
Four figures out the Sisterhood owes him a favour after recalling the Hinchcliffe Doctor’s life.
Christopher Baker
Cedric and Jilly’s mother is no longer ‘here’ anymore
She was Joan Smith (Miss Weston). Joan Weston is the “Joan Redfern” that Baker fell in love with. He want by ‘John Smith’ for this time period.
They first landed in early 1938 after Banks-Stewart’s renewal.
The Advisor is working alongside the Unity to disrupt Earth history. He is currently operating as a scientific advisor for the ‘Radio Men’ (Cybermen?)
The Doctor has been ‘playing with his biology’
Jill Smith (Jilly) was born in 1939
Joan Smith eventually died
Robert Banks Stewart
Joan and The Doctor have been associated for four years, it is now 1944, this means he has been on Earth for six years (1938-1944).
The Doctor’s talking owl has no name because ‘birds don’t use names’
The Magus is working with the Nazis.
The Magus had two twins working for him but one perished at the Temple of Gog and Magog.
A sample of the Elixir of Life found its way to a safe in Ireland.
The Magus claims he wants the Elixir of Life to ensure Hitler stands trial for his actions. This is a lie, as he was wounded and is dying.
Maggie O’Hecha stole the Elixir before the Doctor or Magus could get to it, she would later become leader of the sisterhood.
The Sisterhood sent the Doctor to 1945 and he saw and crystallised the end of the War.
Joan Weston’s real name isn’t Joan Weston (Joan Redfern??). In 1944 she and the Doctor left Earth to travel.
Christopher Barry
Morbius was friends with the Doctor according to ‘the story’.
His wife will slap him next time she sees him and hole up in a ‘Tower in Avalon’.
Framing Narration conc.
Morbius had known Christopher Barry’s Doctor, he’d attempted to harness the living story in order to fulfil his future dreams.
The living story had indeed raised Morbius to greatness only to bring him low in the end. He only learns this upon hitting Barry’s memories in the mindbending match, and this is why he goes full rage afterwards.
Four is unsure how many of these reawakened memories he’d retain, but doesn’t care as he embraces being an ever evolving story.
#dweu#doctor who#doctor who eu#forgotten lives#pre-hartnell#morbius doctors#obverse books#fl3#the brain of morbius#fourth doctor
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I’ve used Tumblr to lurk in the background and simply read other people’s posts to get my Doctor Who EU fix. But the Forgotten Lives Doctors are my obsession. I’m going feral here looking for as much content as possible! Where is my deep discussion and reviews of stories? Where is the ranking of them? Where is the speculative timelines? Where is the fan art? WHAT DO YOU MEAN FL3 IS THE FINAL ONE?!??
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The final @forgottenlivesobverse anthology is on its way, including a new Hinchcliffe Doctor story from me, "The Swan and the Flame." Today on the blog, I'm talking a bit about the experience, as well as dropping a few out-of-context teasers.
Pre-order Forgotten Lives 3
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Thanks to the TARDIS wiki, we have hi-res scans of Clive's Doctor photos from Robert Hack's illustrated edition of RTD's novelisation of "Rose." We can see that there are more incarnations illustrated than there included in the text. As well as the first thirteen (numbered) Doctors, the wiki lists the Fourteenth and Fugitive Doctors, but I can't see them there (there's the hair of one who could be either Ten or Fourteen, but it's not clear).
Clearly visible, though, are the Fifteenth Doctor, and the two Doctors RTD invented for the novelisation - a black woman with a flaming sword and a child in a wheelchair with K9. At the time the book originally came out it was generally assumed these were future incarnations, but they could be past lives before the First Doctor.
Most excitingly, though, are the two Morbius Doctors included. On the first selection, there's a sideways-sitting picture of the George Gallaccio Doctor (aka Doctor Crocus) and an upside-down picture of the Douglas Camfield Doctor.
I'm also intrigued by the picture beneath the snaps of the Third Doctor and the Whomobile and the Eighth Doctor. It's probably supposed to be the Third Doctor and the Brigadier, judging by the filly cuffs and 'tache respectively. It doesn't really look like either of them, though. (The soldier looks more like Captain Mainwaring from "Dad's Army!")
#doctor who#doctor who novelisations#doctor who: rose#every version of the doctor#morbius doctors#forgotten lives
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A solid year and a half after I posted the last chapter, I have now posted the 3rd of 4 chapters of my Robert Banks Stewart Morbius Doctor fanfic!
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Sketches for the first two "Morbius Doctors": the Christopher Barry Doctor and the Robert Banks Stewart Doctor. (With inspiration from Paul Hanley's character designs and the Forgotten Lives books.)
Patreon post about these:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/sketchbook-first-97306596?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link
#Doctor Who#doctor who fan art#Forgotten Lives Doctors#Morbius Doctors#Christopher Barry Doctor#Robert Banks Stewart#sketchbook stuff
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Biowhography (n.): mapping the doctor's incarnations
Since my last post, I've added Lady Aesculapius, The Master of Baker's End, added some more curator-adjacenet incarnations, corrected a key error (the colour for comics was wrong in the key), and probably added some incarnations I've forgotten about.
Here's the link (pls tell me if it doesn't work)
Tagging people who were interested in my last post: @qqaba @familyparadox
#biowhography#the doctor's timeline#the doctor's Incarnations#the doctor's life#classic who#new who#nuwho#doctor mapping#morbius doctors#faction paradox#the timeless child
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The Baker doctor saying that all children listen to music their parents hate, and then going "well, when I was- wait nevermind" will never be not funny, especially when you start imagining a very young doctor trying to piss Tecteun off by listening to earth music
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