Me listening to magp 8: What a fascinating spin on a Lonely statement that asks what if it was the Place that was lonely, so hungry that it desires to quite literally ea- WHAT THE FUCK WHAT THE FUCKKKKKK WHAT WHAT WHAT THE FUCKKK WHATTTTTT FUCKING WHAT WHAT COME AGAIN HUH WHAT FUCKING WH

[ID: Cartoony art of people who look comically shocked, terrified, and overwhelmed, with their eyes bugging out and their mouth open, sweating in shock and trembling. End ID]

[Plain text: Multiple variations of "What the fuck" and "come again" written in caps lock. End PT]

[Thank you to @princess-of-purple-prose and @ryutarotakedown for the id's :] I hope it's ok to merge the two!]

We're so back

Edit: I made this post before finishing the episode, so I find it interesting to note that these episodes also share the parallel of... a certain someone

"if the dice roll poorly right now then that means the next rolls will be good i swear i swear"

Happy Gerry! I love how much fan service we got until now in Protocol. But today's episode has been my favorite in this regards so far! So, here's how I picture Gerry in The Magnus Protocl! I don't think he'd totally abandon his metalhead persona. Some things are just hardwired to a personality no matter their past experiences. But I think Gerry sounds less edgy in this one. So I made him a bit more... round^^ No dyed hair, no Eye tattos, no black finger nails. Still piercings. Also he has an undercut now. For now a gray muscle shirt, black army trousers and the most important thing! Cute socks! Also a grandma recliner chair to have a bit of Gee Gee's influence in this!

inside me there are two wolves: one doesn't want to go meta, the other doesn't want to fall for any yummy yummy bait. there's also a third wolf who thinks the actual bait was the meta we did along the way.

the wolf who wins is a fourth one who's carrying 3km of red thread.

Okay, so here's my working theory for The Magnus Protocol as it relates to The Magnus Archives, as of MAGP 8:

Nothing physical came through the Crack, only mental/spiritual/informational/eldritch. Specifically, this included the Fears, our boys and their third wheel (probably because, while his body was dead, his eyeballs were still viable so he wasn't dead dead yet), and everything on the tapes.

This resulted in the Protocol versions of people who were on the tapes acquiring some amount of memories/knowledge of what happened to their Archives selves.

I suspect this to be the whole deal for Celia and Georgie, although I don't have much to go on yet. It seems more likely that Gertrude (and possibly Gerry) might have had Stuff going on prior to this, but, again, unclear as yet.

Gerry definitely seems to have had a better life here and to be genuinely much happier, but I have to wonder whether he knows more than he's saying... and whether he was in Camden when the memories struck.

We'll see how this holds up!

the 'statement' from magp 8 was very extinction-y

Also… GERRY AND GRANNY GERTRUDE ??????????

And celia is trying to look into TIME TRAVEL, OTHER DIMENSIONS and TELEPORTATION ???????? And she’s doing a podcast with GEORGIE ?????

bro is yearning for the analog

more tma

mixing my imagery mixing my metaphors idgaf here tha speedpaint😽💚

magp friends how we feeling with the hiatus🥲

The Grand Spiral Theory pt1, a Magnus Protocol theory

Let’s start with the timeline, coz this is interesting, considering where TMA left off:

Mag 1; both statements happened in 2022, Mag 2; 2022. Doesn’t say in the statement but you can find it in the ep description, Mag 3; 2009, Mag 4; 1831, Mag 5; 2023, Mag 6; 2023, Mag 7; 2016, Mag 8; 2023, Mag 9; 1998, Mag 10; 2021 (9th of March), Mag 11; 2020 (6th of January), Mag 12; 2024, Mag 13; 2023

TMA ended on the 25th of March, 2021 with the release of mag 200, which is the best estimate we have for when it happened, although it’s on shaky grounds. Based on the TMP dates, episodes are set a bit before they come out, though varying amounts. (Mag 1 came out 11 days after it was set, Mag 13 is the same, only a month later. It’d be interesting to go through and cross ref all of the dates of all of the episodes but for now I’m gonna leave that coz I doubt it will answer any of my questions)

I don’t have all of the answers, but it’s interesting that a close majority of these happened after March of 2021, isn’t it? March of 2021, being about the time when Martin ‘pulled the lever on the trolley problem’, if you will, and by Jon’s fear, let all of the dread powers through into other universes. I think Jon was right, but it’s complicated.

Let’s go through all the ‘anomaly’ episodes, set before mag 200, the bolded ones:

Mag 3; 2009, this one’s interesting, and I had a lot of loose theories about it that I’ve kinda dejected now. But it’s worth noting that this happened specifically on the 3rd of April. Anya Villette’s statement (Mag 114) is from 2009, 20 days after Magp 3 is set. Anya Villette also said essentially that she is 2 weeks and a day behind her previous universe, which may have been an estimate at a number (she said TMA universe tomorrow happened 2 weeks ago, could have been give or take). I thought she might have come from the Protocol universe, given that she came through hilltop road, and could have something to do with Mag 3, but I don’t think so. Not sure, interesting connection anyway.

The way I would describe this episode, dread power wise (with this theory in mind), is the Spiral piggybacking off the Corruption. That would require the Spiral and to some extent the Corruption to be in the TMP universe in 2009. I’ll get to the Spiral in a bit, coz I’ve got a million things to say about that, but think about the nature of the Corruption. It crawls. It crawls into every little crack it finds. If there’s an uncorrupted space, all the Corruption does is corrupt it. If there were, hypothetically, a crack. In reality. Hypothetically. And there were a manipulative malignant entity to guide it, and use it and it and piggyback off it to feed itself, and it were say, guided, to a crack in reality, well…

Mag 4; 1831. This one’s fun. I went a little insane thinking about this but I’ve come to a pretty neat answer for it. I think this statement is from the TMA universe, and was uploaded onto Freddy through weird computery shit. I’ll also talk about the weird computery shit in a bit, but—Jon and Martin where at the place where the London Magnus Institute was before the whole lever sitchu. They, as best as anyone can tell, are in Freddy. Who’s to say that can’t happen with statements? Physical information taken into the unreality of the digital world, where no im getting ahead of myself we’ll get to that

I think that this guy is the origin of Grifter’s Bone. It just makes sense, and the statement is I BELIEVE the only one that doesn’t follow a technology theme, instead being a physical letter, much like a handful of statements from TMA. It’s the only one that goes back this far, so far, and Alice said she doesn’t know why they get statements that old, its just a fucked up little computer that does that. That statement is not supposed to be there, because it belongs in a different universe. There’s also the connection to the fucked up dice from Mag 9, I’ll get to that when I get to Mag 9.

Also, and this is less evidence more vibes, but vibes that may later become evidence, the reaction. This seems natural to this world, I guess. The horrors feel less disconnected than every other episode. It’s almost as if, almost, as if the dread powers developed alongside this society. Instead of being flung in or crawling their way through. Anyway.

Mag 7; This one annoys me because I purely have to go on theories. BUT this one happened in 2016. An important year for TMA; that’s when the first statement was recorded. Jon became head archivist in 2015. Gertrude died 15th of May 2015, Jon becoming head archivist is unspecified but yk, probably very soon after. The only theory I really have for this is that the Stranger was hiding stuff from Gertrude to stop it getting C4’d, and they were hiding it in the TMP universe, which would have required the stranger to know about it and be able to access HTR (or HTC, going with the assumption that it isn’t a red herring for this theory). When Jon became head archivist and very clearly did not know what he was doing, the Strangers brought their stuff back. In a ritual, which is what happened in Mag 7. I’m not sure its a shakey theory, but it’s got some merit in that someone, I can’t remember who but someone cool shout out to you cool person went through and looked at the entire TMA timeline, and saw that the statements came much more frequently after Jon became archivist. The evils weren’t afraid of him like they were of Gertrude which is really funny thats my boy thats my pathetic wet cat get it queen. That’s all I’ve got tbh

Mag 9; 1998. Quite simply, this is the web. The web knew about and had access to HTR since Geoffrey Neckham started doing research into it. He was a little too theistic to actually understand everything. Geoffrey Neckham is notable for being ‘a scholar from the University’. ‘(tf is ‘the university’)’ it says in my notes which yk fair question. The point being the mother of puppets knew about HTR long before Mr Fielding took residence there, so… I don’t know how specifically the evil web dice got through, but they must’ve. Possibly a test by the mother of puppets. In Mag 4, though, the guy who sold the Grifter’s Bone violin too our dear protagonist also was mentioned to have two bone dice things. HM

HTR, as possessed by Fielding, burned down in 1974. As Annabelle describes while monologuing through Martin, that was when the ‘crack’ turned into a ‘gap’. BEFORE 1998. If the dice were originally from the TMA universe, as they would have to be if they’re the same ones as in Mag 4 and if Mag 4 is from the TMA universe, the web may have sent them within the decades that followed. Why? Idk, but it’s possible, and thats enough for me right now.

Mag 10; 2021, 9th March. TECHNICALLY no magical stuff happened. The Bonzo killer may have been a real and normal guy that just killed people. That’s what I think, anyway. And then he turned into the nightmare flesh demon that he is at some point after March of 2021. When the flesh reached TMP’s universe, it just saw this and latched onto it.

Oh and also, with the aforementioned latent flexibility of the dates episodes are set to when they release (alongside the apparent inter-reality time zones that exist as evidenced by Anya Villette), Mag 200 could have happened before this anyway. Maybe the… Technology, caught interest in Bonzo when the flesh started to take him over.

Mag 11; 2020. This is rather conceptual, but the vast also feels like one that would make it through. A reality is quite big I’m sure, but being confined to one… I doubt the Vast would like being confined to anything. Regardless, not many severely spooky happenings. I don’t know, perhaps the Vast just made it through. Maybe it is another type of god. I don’t know.

But, but but but, The Magnus Institute, I hear ye say. I’m not caught up on the ARG just yet, but BOY do I have my theories about that. First of all, the location. This is going into a bit of a history rabbit hole, but bare with me. In the year 1640, a London merchant called William Dockwra created the first private postal service in the UK, called penny post. 200 years later, the penny post was established throughout Great Britain and Ireland. And I mean 200 years later—10th of January, 1840. This was the first real form of surveillance in the UK (and Ireland), see, and its original form was created in London. London, the most surveilled city in the UK. The most surveilled city in all of Europe (yes brexit ik im ignoring it sorry).

Why is this important? Well, moving an entire archive is no easy task, I’m sure. Why might someone, say, some bloke, say, Jonah Magnus, decide to move his entire institute and archives all the way from up in Edinburgh, Scotland where he had established it in 1818, all the way down to London, England, a whole 13 years later? In 1841? Conveniently, the most surveilled city in the Uk, conveniently, a year after the first form of surveillance in the UK was introduced?

There are plenty of reasons to move an institute. Maybe, for whatever reason you want to go to a more economically promising city. Or maybe you want to feed the eye god you’ve dedicated your life to, because if it were the former you would likely be more inclined to go to the most thriving city you can find. The center of trade in the UK, around that time in the early 1800’s, maybe, maybe a city that is far closer to where you are in Edinburgh than London is. A city like fucking Manchester. That’s what you would choose to do, of course, if there weren’t an eye god in your universe that has latched onto your institute that you have dedicated your life to feeding. Just saying.

I'll rb this with next part once I've written it into coherence good day

The Magnus Protocol tag: does not trend on tumblr for several consecutive magnus thursdays

MAGP 08:

The Magnus Protocol tag:

[ID: Image one: A screenshot from The Magnus Protocol episode 8 transcript. It reads:

GERRY

Pleasure to meet you both. I’m Gerry!

Image two: The tumblr trending page. “the magnus protocol” is trending at number one. End ID]

Also, LOVE Episode 8 for bringing back one of my favorite Lonely Statement Things: the "It was a crowd with no people in it." trope. There's bodies and faces and voices but no people. You are surrounded and still so terrifyingly alone

Magp 8 literally has me combing through the transcript. There’s too many details. Gerry??? Other dimensions?? GEE GEE??? Also I’m convinced that “Camden Epiphany” will become plot relevant. Mr. Newall you’ve done it again

MAGP 8 thoughts: i could genuinely feel the color drain from my face when i heard "gigi" speak what the actual shit is happening

decided to look up the names and dates in the citations in MAGP 8. each corresponds to relevant works on brutalism and liminality. doubt there's any theory cracking secrets to be found in them, but here's the links if you're curious anyway

https://www.scirp.org/reference/referencespapers?referenceid=2611352

https://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~jread2/Auge%20Non%20places.pdf

https://sites.evergreen.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/88/2015/05/Gaston-Bachelard-the-Poetics-of-Space.pdf

https://www.academia.edu/355785/The_Memory_of_Place_a_Phenomenology_of_the_Uncanny_2012_

Finished MAGP episode 8 about an hour ago and am still recovering

Database Additions for MAGP 05: Personal Screening

Released 8 Feb 2024 Episode written by Alexander J Newall & Jamie Petronis Edited by Jonathan Sims & Alexander J Newall

Episode summary from The Magnus Database

SPOILERS BELOW CUT

CASE

CAT2RB2377-10012023-05022024 Disappearance (undetermined) -/- invitation [internet blog] Read by Chester

Parties mentioned: Cinema Employee Cinephobia12220 Tom

Locations mentioned: Voyeur cinema

Misc objects mentioned: Tom's Terrors blog Voyeur film

Other Parties Introduced

Amelia Former IT Manager (unnamed)

Other Locations Introduced

None

Other Misc Objects Introduced

None

Connections/Item Relationships Found (New)

None

Voiced Characters

Lena Kelley Samama Khalid Alice Dyer Gwendolyn Bouchard Chester

Database

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