Do you think there will be a love story between Chat and Khem?

I think so, but to what extent? First, the movie is PG-13, it’s not KP la forte, level for sure, good. Also, one can tell a beautiful and great love story without the characters kissing or barely touching in the whole movie. It can be subtle and implied, in the looks, in their actions, etc. It would be such a waste to have MileApo chemistry at one’s disposal and not use it. There will be times for them to play friends, brothers (lol) etc.

I mean the cast and crew are being so tight-lipped about that aspect that it can only be on purpose. They’re promoting it first as a historical movie which shows Thai culture, the love story should be seen just as part of the story and not THE STORY. I think they could even be a sort of love/friendship triangle between Khem, Wan and Chatra.

 I think talking about a love story between the two would have people too quickly categorised it as a BL. And people could wish not to watch it because of negative aspects attached to BLs. I mean Thailand was the first to really invest in BLs and it’s very lucrative. I think they found a great recipe which made a lot of money and the industry became a bit lazy, sacrificing art for a quick gain. Therefore, so many BLs lack substance. Meanwhile Japanese, Korean BLs are being more interesting and they look for a good story even if it’s not perfect. I think they gained from people’s Thai BLs fatigue from some viewers. But BL is also as they said Thailand soft power, it should be used.

Pond had been clear for so long about his desire to depict boys love not as a genre but just love between two individuals. He wants a love story where people would just root for two beings falling in love and don’t care about their gender, as it should be. I believe it’s the way to go. This is a good formula, history, culture, intrigue, drama and romance. In my humble opinion in this movie it’s about layers, by the time you get to the romance one, you don’t really care if it’s between two men, two racoons, you just want to find out what’s happening and how it will end for the characters you are so invested in.

Hi can I rant here a sec? I see Apo has won Most Favourite Thai Actor of 2022 which is fair enough but in the article it says Apo was the lead in KP. Apo has been retweeting the article but not correcting it. I've always thought of him and Mile as joint leads. I just think its a tad unfair on Mile to not be known as a joint lead. His performance was just as incredible?

Hi,

Good for Apo for winning Favourite Thai actor of 2022, I'm glad it made him happy. Why Apo should correct it? He is a lead, his character’s name is in the title. And stating otherwise would be a lie. There are two main leads in KinnPorsche the series, Mile and then Apo. Mile is known and treated as the lead. There isn't such thing as "joint leads". They don't have to be associated with the other all the times. Fans had to vote for ONE actor and they chose Apo.

The award wasn't about the best actors in KP, but in 2022 what actor pleased the Thai people, do you see the difference? There are many layers in that. It's not just a matter of how they acted but also how the character made the fans feel? How the actor expressed themselves in public, who the fans related to the most? Who they want to baby? How they have endeared themselves to the public? Etc. Also people tend to forget that Apo had fans before KP, young fans, but many uncles and aunties who still follow him to this day, who have seen him evolve.

Unfair? It's the entertainment industry, I'm sorry but what do you expect? They know about the main leads and separating them means more votes, more engagement.

Even if Mile's performance in KP was amazing as his first experience, it's still is his first "real" performance and acting is a work in progress. It's hard to beat experience, and Apo has great experience, like 8 or 9 years ahead of Mile. As talented as Mile is, hard working and studying like crazy, talent needs experience. It's important to look at this also without emotions but reason. There isn't any professional actor, acting coach or director who will put right now Apo and Mile on the same level, acting wise. I'm being realistic and Mile himself knows it and has talk about it.

They're just awards and Mile will win some, Apo others, they would also win together. But no they won't always win together. At the end of the day, one of them win then for me it's MileApo win.

Do you think with Mile being thanked first above family, its about hes thanking him for his friendship and goung through the KP journey together? Also I'm curious with seeing all the deep adorable moments from Mile Apo, has anything made you surprised and think actually they could be moving into romantic territory each other?

Hi,

I think Mile made a great impact in Apo’s life to an extent we will never know. He has seen him at his best and at his worst. And as I stated before, they went through a war together. Indeed, he’s thanking him for his love and support. They love each other, and for me romance is love, friendship is love.

MileApo could be in an established romantic relationship it’s a possibility and in a deep friendship, with some attraction, hence the handsome this, handsome that, another possibility. But then come all the variables, I talked about here. Then labelling their relationship doesn’t make any sense.

I haven’t seen anything yet which makes me go, “OK, that’s it, they’re in a romantic relationship.” With men that close, it’s complicated, skinship doesn’t indicate much, looks can be deceiving, showing attraction, fondness and not necessarily love. The answer would be in the details, and a pattern of behaviour. I have seen one or two details which made me frown and think that’s partners behaviour but not much. But as long as they don’t confirm it themselves, it’s all conjectures.

But I would say this, for me they are clearly infatuated with each other. Infatuation doesn’t only apply to romantic feelings. It’s a feeling of admiration for/or interest in someone or something. One of the dimensions of infatuation is a strong and unreasoning attachment. There is some foolishness linked to it.

And that’s true, most of the time, they look like infatuated fools lol. It’s in the way Mile stares at Apo, how Apo fuss all over Mile about his outfits. Let’s not forget the looks exchanged, soft voices, the smiles, tenderness, the need to reach to the other, to see if the other got the joke. And just the raw pleasure they have to be in each other’s presence.

Anyways, they are adorable together.

Hugs,

Peony

Hi, I totally get if you’re tired of this topic and don’t want to get into it! I value your opinion, so I’m asking you, and you can reply if you want to. Regarding Apo and Pond, those rumours have taken off so much, and it seems they originate from people that don’t wish Apo well. So I’m wondering, if it’s nothing to them, would it be a good idea to adress them? Apo never comments on this, and that’s okay, but when a CEO sees rumours painting himself and an employee in this light? One of them sleeping their way to the top and the other taking advantage of a younger beautiful man (as the rumours imply). They’re clearly aware of the rumours, and some of Pond’s ig replies and igs do nothing to make the rumours go away. I’m just curious as to why he doesn’t somehow say it’s not true? Is it an uncommon thing to do in the industry? Do they (Apo) dig their heel in about anyone telling them what to do? (Or is it actually true?) Anyway, your blog is both entertaining and enlightening, so thank you for that! Have a nice day!

Hi,

From a PR point of view commenting on dating rumours even if they are stupid, baseless and vile is a trap and a nightmare. If one comments, one put the spotlights on them, meaning if other people weren’t paying attention to them, they will once you do.

Suddenly something which was in bored people and haters’ sphere becomes mainstream. It’s like one waving a red cloth in front of a bull, one is looking for trouble.

And if they comment on ONE dating rumour, they have to comment on ALL of them, because the moment they don’t, they imply since they commented once then that particular one is true.

It also means that one has to explain themselves, justify, open the door and discuss their love life, which is no one business but their own.

Today it’s Apo and Pond tomorrow it could be Apo and the vogue editor, because those people hate him and imply that he doesn’t have enough talent or charisma to succeed on his own. And what do you think will happen if they address it, haters will stop? They will go, ‘They deny it, so let’s stop spreading those rumours’.

No, they will continue and even if Pond gets married next summer, they will still keep saying it, they will create another narrative. It’s the only thing they have against Apo and they will keep using it, he knows it.

Indeed, those rumours have taken off in certain areas of this fandom, but the majority in the fandom don’t see it in their TL, simply because they choose carefully with whom they interact. Haters are loud, it doesn’t mean there are many of them.

People are so easily manipulated, they’re repeating the most outrageous lies coming from people who are laughing their ass off for making them believe that crap. People should be very cautious, they behave like there are no haters on the Thai side.

If one day they comment on it, it's only because it's jeopardizing the work, the brand etc. But, thankfully people, fans, etc., see it for what it is utter nonsense and also none of our business.

I wasn’t going to respond at first, but I thought it could be a good opportunity to discuss dating rumours in the entertainment industry because as you said I’m tired of this subject. And every time I talk about it I get asks trying to prove how real Apo and Pond are because they have seen it on Twitter's slums.

Thank you for your kind words.

LP.

PS: Dear anon, don’t worry, didn’t think, you believed they were an item.

No matter what has happened their perception on his character based on a filter shows how little faith they had on him. Idk a filter being his undoing for a man with a clean record and very vocal on his beliefs never uttered B name all this time like you have to realize that whatever their feeling it is based on poor judgment with no proof. If anything his whole character, way of living, AND people around shows only goodness so to say am not mad over the lashings he got is an understatement.

Anon 2: I think one thing no is considering is you can't tell how he feels or thinks based on a filter. You can't say where he stands because of a filter. He has said nothing but everyones is saying everything based on a filter. Everyone is just making assumption with no proof beyond what they think. The only proofs we do have is that he is a genuine person filled with kindness. I wish he didn't get these strong reactions so he could just have an option if it's a misunderstanding but it will worsen inst

Anon 3 : If I was crucified for everything I do. If I knew that am damned no matter what decision I make. Am just going to straight up not give a fk lol. Like he can't control how people feel but how he reacts is up to him. He won't make anyone happy whether he deletes or not because its not about him anymore but them. His cornered regardless so at this point it's just either you leave or stay as a fan. Stick to those who love him and wish well to those who leave is apo motto because it is what it is :/

Anon 4: No one wants to acknowledge apos feelings or rights to express himself unless it fits their agenda. How his put on a pedestal because he is a good person but don't see his human. How he keeps being misunderstood yet only buries his hurt and puts on a smile. His mint interview showed his fears and how he walks on eggshells while trying not to lose himself in the process in order to not hurt others yet here we are proving that fear. His been transparent with who he is.

Anon 5: No matter what has happened their perception on his character based on a filter shows how little faith they had on him. Idk a filter being his undoing for a man with a clean record and very vocal on his beliefs never uttered B name all this time like you have to realize that whatever their feeling it is based on poor judgment with no proof. If anything his whole character, way of living, AND people around shows only goodness so to say am not mad over the lashings he got is an understatement.

Anon 6: 100% agree on everything. Pohas gone through shit that we only know half of yet remained consistent in his beliefs and kindness to the point he left what he loved most. Bitterness and resentment has been residing in this fandom they will through hate without thinking. To be blunt their egos and feelings has been prioritiz over MA because you can't valid your feelings and not theirs. You can't hurt A and expect him to just take it for a claim you made without backing. This fandom needs a cleanse.

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You all made valid points. What angers me the most is that Apo’s haters were waiting for a “Got you” moment, salivating at the idea of throwing hate at him. And they didn’t have to do much his own fandom turned on him over a stupid filter, no words uttered, a filter. That’s why celebrities can NEVER trust some fans or assume they are on their side, their “I love you” mean NOTHING.

But it was also beautiful to see how so many fans rallied around him, because of who he is and has been for so many years. 

Do you think BOC will survive as a company? They have a lot of stuff going on from the fan info leak to the abuse scandal. Also, I’m sure this situation is turning off sponsors. What’s your opinion…

I think they will survive because as I also stated here, they have what fans want, Mile, Apo, Bible, Jeff, etc. As long as those men stay with them, fans will stick with them. And the fans are the fuel they need. Never underestimate a fan’s ‘love’ for their idol, actor, etc. Some are ready to compromise their morals, beliefs, principles as long as BOC has under their wing their ‘faves’. Trust could be diminished but not entirely lost. Some will forgive BOC anything. It’s the ugly truth. It will take more than what they have been through.

The sponsors are probably annoyed but they can see the potential, so I think for now they will stay, they will be appeased, promises will be made, other actors will step in, etc. Also as long as there isn’t any inertia and BOC seems in control of the narrative, sponsors won’t panic yet. They know how managing individuals isn’t an easy task. The live conference shows that, ‘see we managed to have both parties agreed to talk and make statements, etc.’  

For me the only possible outcome for the live conference, is both parties apologising for the stress, pain they caused the company, fans and co-workers, etc. And for both of them to resign him as a BOC actor and her from any attachments, role she has within the company and affiliates, and settle the rest of their dispute in court or not.

His fans are hoping that she comes out and says she lied about everything, etc. Let’s speculate for a second, it’s the case. Still, him staying will be untenable for too many, because he was (as he himself confirmed in his post), in a relationship with her (an unhealthy and unethical one). And no one would believe for one second, he didn’t take advantage of that position or she didn’t favour him above others, knowing her role with BOC and before. It’s a great stain on his reputation and the company’s. For everyone’s sake, he needs to go and BOC needs a thorough investigation within their walls. These kinds of messes can’t keep happening.  

There are also variables we don’t know and it’s BOC, anything could happen. But to go back to your question, BOC still stands, and it seems will keep doing so. And I feel for the cast and also too often forgotten, the employees like Gift and others working their ass off to make things work having to deal with that kind of mess.

Do you think there was a shift in their relationship after Phuket? I don’t know if it’s just me but Apo’s behavior(?) around or concerning Mile has changed a lot. Right now, they’re apart from one another again and Apo just posted how he misses New York. He may just be reminiscent of his time there where he was free to be who he wants without anyone analyzing his every moment (kinda like what I’m doing atm 😭😭😭 bye I hate myself) but would you consider this as “acting up” like what Mile used to do?

 Hello,

In my opinion, the real and meaningful shift happened already, the earthquake occurred and now we may see little aftershocks, now and then. Is Phuket one? Perhaps, but I don’t find it any different than the ten-day camp. They will get even closer thanks to the world tour.

The thing is, Apo will always miss New York. That city will forever hold a precious place in his heart. People tend to forget that he didn’t get the chance to experience it fully, it was cut short by the pandemic. I understand why he’s nostalgic. There will always be a part of him who will wonder, what if? And when he says he misses New York, it’s probably a reference to the people he met there, his experiences, his studies, etc. Anyone who has been to NYC would understand him.

I loved NY, my friends and family thought it was not a safe city, but I felt so safe there, I never felt in any danger, and New Yorkers were so welcoming. Apo was made to live in NY, for a while, forever, who knows? It suits his personality, his artistry, he probably felt at home, etc. We often find how strong we are, what we are capable of, away from home, I did. It’s normal for him to miss it, and miss the changes within himself he would have experienced there, if he had remained one more year. I think he intends to go back, one day. And it’s not like he can just go there right now, and that’s why he’s nostalgic. He has movies, series to film, brands to represent, and there is no way, Pond and Mile would just let him take a plane to NY, lol. And the most important part, he’s back to his first love, acting, and he can’t just let it go.

I got messages about that post being linked to the fact Mile was busy. Mile and Apo have a great bond but not everything is linked to the other. IMHO Apo wouldn’t use NY to act up, it’s too personal, it’s probably still a sore spot since he didn’t get to do everything he wanted. It was a time of insouciance for him and when he could be at peace away from the chaos and cruelties of the entertainment industry.

Apo doesn’t act up the same way Mile does, he would use KinnPorsche, be a tattletale. If he mentions hiking somewhere for instance, you know he’s acting up because he knows within the next 30mn, Mile will probably stop what he’s doing and call/message/twit/Instagram to tell him to be safe and the cast and crew would probably as well because they don’t trust him not to get lost or adopt wild animals. I believe Apo handles loneliness and missing someone better than Mile does. Mile is chaotic, Apo is methodical, when he acts up, he plans it well lol. It wouldn’t be ONE post but a well-ordered mess.

Hugs,

P.

Ps: Don’t hate yourself, you are far too cute.

Why do you think daemi- kinnporsche's writers- seem to be problematic?

Where do I even start? It’s all out there. They appear too drunk in their own self-importance. They’re always trying to get attention, by revealing things, they know nothing about when they aren’t involved in BOC/KPTS and their decisions. They’re always saying irresponsible statements, for instance, that writing/talking about rape, drug rape and torture shouldn’t come with a warning, etc.

But the big red flag for me came from Mile himself, in a live in the presence of the authors he said that they behaved inappropriately with him (the male one). You can see that moment here you can also find it on YT. The translation said molestation. Many in the fandom said he was joking because he was smiling and laughing. Who the heck would joke about something like that? Sadly, men above all young men in that industry don’t talk about being taken advantage of, objectified or sexually harassed, when they do, please pay attention. And it’s sad it was just discarded by some people. And even at some point Mile became serious to say that it seems like he’s joking but he isn’t, when it’s a joke he would say it and that’s the truth. Laughing when talking about a bad experience can be a coping mechanism. And he’s very assertive in what he’s saying. He’s calling them out, in their face and in front of a camera while fans were watching. Mile wanted it out there.

Why do I know they’re problematic? The way cast and crew talk about them….. EXACTLY. Look at the leads, except to say that he inspired the character of Kinn and he was encouraged to go to the casting, Mile doesn’t say anything about them. Apo loves Porsche but Porsche from the series. No big thanks, no mention of them. Those authors should be praised all the time by the leads but aren’t, guess why?

Hello! I hope you’re doing well. Is it okay to share my thoughts on Apo from yesterday? People say ‘let him do what he wants.’ And of course! He can and should do what he thinks is best, absolutely. I’m sure he has his reasons and I applaud him for doing what he wants. (I could learn from him there.) What he did yesterday wasn’t just using the company tag. He used it 40+ times to an extent he’s never been close to any other time. It feels hard not to see that as a quite pointed thing to do. And it made me feel sad and guilty that I don’t have it in me to support the other man there yesterday. I love Apo so much but being a fan doesn’t mean that I have to love everything he does? I’m a little confused and lonely and see that having these feelings aren’t seen as valid. I don’t have your way with words. But I struggle with what happened yesterday and I hope I can get past it soon. Have a lovely day and thank you for your time.

Hello,

I’m fine thank you, I hope you are fine as well. I think these past weeks have been challenging for many in the MA fandom. There was a lot of toxicity, anger and bottled up feelings. The thing is so many fans are projecting things onto Apo. By posting so many times he isn’t chastising you or trying to control, HE IS NOT. It’s not an attempt of manipulation or to make you feel guilty.

One anon sent me this which is very true:

‘The main issue with fans is thinking apo is trying to force/control fans when it’s the opposite. How many times has fans disobeyed him and yet he leaves them be and calls us cute and just spreads love. All apo does is show support like he always had since boc started even Filmania era. He does his thing then the next day is like it never happened he treats fans sweetly despite the outrage/resentment they throw at him.’

Your feelings are valid, you love him and you want to please him but it contradicts with your beliefs. But what you believe in comes first, always. You have your own free will and Apo has his own. And he knows that every time he supports BOC in any way he gets hate, yet he still does it more than any other artist out there to my knowledge.

You need to support whom you want to support. If Apo comes to me personally asking me to trend for the other person, I would tell him you are cute but no, because I’m my own person. I won’t betray myself for one person not even for Apo Nattawin that I admire. Supporting an artist doesn’t mean you have to agree with them 100% and be what you think, they want you to be. A fandom isn’t a cult, be you, do you and support who you want.

Try not to be too invested in all this, Apo will be fine, but what about you? If you feel that way, it means that perhaps you need a break, step away from social media and take a deep breath, take care of yourself.

Have a great day,

LP.

Haha I must say even more recently, you sound convinced that MA are dating. I assumed you were a shipper anyway but good for you. Unfortunately I'm stuck on my thinking they're mostly co workers but that's okay too :)

I'm convinced that MA are Mileapoing. Being convinced means proof of what we believe in and being sure beyond reasonable doubt. I DON'T KNOW. I'm comfortable and fine in my ignorance. Whatever they are won't affect my life in any way. They're what they show me when they show me, cool bro, flirty, family, lovey-dovey, bickering etc. I will laugh, speculate and have fun within the boundaries I possess. 

Unlike you I'm not stuck in any thinking. I have explained it HERE. I’m sorry but, you didn't crack a case, if I was a shipper I would say it. There is nothing shameful being a healthy shipper. I’m not here to try and convince anyone, don’t have the time. This blog is FOR ME, to talk about talented actors I enjoy with a beautiful bond and a tendency to create soap operas, that's it.

You do you and I do me, and it will be nice to have the liberty of "doing me" without people making assumptions or projecting anything into ME. You have no idea how many asks of this nature I receive, like my position, being neutral offends people and make them suspicious, what the heck? How????

Isn't mile so amusing? He is so unhinged and unpredictable sometimes I always wonder what his thinking when he does things. I admire his dedication to apo. He never lets you forget he LOVES apo lol. He my not care for now how you interpret their relationship but he wouldn't allow you to forget that apo is precious to him. Its very cute of him. He maybe a reserve and shy guy but his bold about his feelings for him. Mile is just such a cool guy to me. I adore his chaotic self.

2nd anon said:

One thing that I just love about MA is how soft they are for each other. You can see how tenderly they treat their bond. The cast always say how mileapo tend to run off together and I find that sweet because it shows the depth of their bond that they find joy and comfort within each other having each other is enough to light up their world. MA are just so fond of each other it warms my heart and their bond is still growing because you can see the shift within months and their just getting softer

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Hello,

I completely agree with everything you both said. These days Mile really is chaotic and cute lol. I was trying to make sense of it all, but I think it's pointless, he is unpredictable. Apo is precious to him, he's only two years younger than him but they way Mile behaves one will think it's so much more. He's so gentle and kind with him, so patient and attentive, it's SO cute. Mile is also responsible for this whole fandom babying Apo because he does it all the time.

They’re very soft for each other and it’s so refreshing to see this kind of relationship between two men. Tenderness doesn’t make a man less masculine on the contrary. Apo made me emotional when he was worried about his P’Mile when he got covid, encouraging fans to send support, adorable.

I talked about the shift here, and it’s like they realised what they had, how rare it was and decided it was something which needed to be nurtured and cherished.

I have never witnessed something quite like this, from people I will keep repeating it who have known each other for less than two years.

Hugs,

P.

There is a strong rumor in the market that Apo is dating Pond ?? What do you think about this , could this be true ?? It is obvious that they do spend a lot of off time together and also are extremely close on a personal level. But could this be romantic love. Both are single , at least officially and Apo is fiercely protective and possessive of Pond.

2nd anon asked: I was reading about your bias your think Pond has for Apo. I've never really thought about it before. Someone said maybe Pond fancies Apo but idk if that's just ridiculous rumours?

3rd anon asked: Hello.Can I ask what your thoughts are of P-Pond? He certainly surrounds Apo a lot at events, plus seeing Jeffs play and when they went to Phuket. I don't know if some see that Pond has an obsession with Apo maybe romantically although I don't even know the age of Pond or if he's a decent guy personally although professionally amazing re: KP. Do you get a not great feeling about Pond and if Apo is blinded by hero worship about him? :(

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Hello,

“Strong rumour in the market,” love this expression. 

When one watches someone, you notice all the people watching them as well. That’s how I noticed Pond’s bias. The way he talks to Apo, the way he films him (In the series and KP memo for instance) it’s from an admiring outlook. I believe they are very close and it took time. Apo’s message for fans to support BOC is also a clue of their closeness. He also wanted fans to give a chance to Pond, CEO of BOC, his friend. Pond listens to Apo’s ideas and give him his full attention. At some point I did wonder if he was Mile or Apo’s friend, lol.

I don’t think they spend a lot of time together, certainly not MileApo level. When they do, there are usually other people with them. As for Apo being protective and possessive of Pond, I don’t recall any examples of such thing. I really don’t know what is Pond status, some said he’s married with children, others that he’s single. Does it really matter? Apo doesn’t seem to trust easily, listening to Apo talk during the concert, it feels like it took Pond some time to break his walls and he was determined to do so. After actors’ romances, director-actor romances are the most common in that bubble.

Pond behaves more like an indulgent father towards Apo, he observes him, looks protective and caring. I think it was first a ‘professional romance’, which turned into friendship. Apo would love to direct in the future and write scenarios. I believe he has found someone who let him express his ideas and listen to them. Mile joked that Apo was writing the script with Pond. And he even let Apo insert words from his own life (pier scene). Not all directors are like that. For actor Apo, Pond is probably a dream director.

I believe they admire each other’s skills in their respective field. They share the same passion for their art, and enjoy working with each other. The best clue of their professional romance and closeness is probably the fact that the idea for the movie, came from a conversation they had in a temple. Pond basically built a whole movie around Apo. A lot of directors have a favourite actor or one who inspires them. Is Apo, Pond’s muse? Maybe, time will tell.  

There is also an element of jealousy from fans of other actors to say that about Apo and Pond. Meaning that if Apo gets more attention, brand deals, roles, from the CEO, Pond, it’s because there is something between them. “He does Pond favours.” It’s as old as the world. So it’s important to be careful, and check who sometimes push this pairing, ship and why. It can be completely innocent or hide hate towards Apo.

I get why people are wondering if there is more between them. If there was no Mile, I would perhaps consider it, speculate. But Khun Mile exists, MileApo as they stand now don’t leave a lot of room for a third party.

P.  

I must ask with Mile sending that tweet with clapping emoji about in response to he is so in love with Apo, does that make you think further they could be a couple in real life? But they don't spend time together on evenings which confuses me like. If they are just friends, why would he likes these or tweet these things? If to make fans happy? You can't live your life like that esp when you eventually have to date others and fans feel led on? I hope you can answer this with your opinion x

Hello,

I got several of those asks and chose to answer yours since it was the less abrasive towards Mile. *Sigh*. As for him liking that tweet and the clapping emoji, it doesn’t necessarily make me believe they could be a couple in real life. Likes and emoji are cute, but they aren’t as tangible as words. Also, if Mile had done the same with a tweet in his mother’s tongue, I would perhaps wonder, but still variables remain.*

I would still be cautious, though, because heteronormativity blinds us when it comes to relationships. Let’s speculate ONLY for this conversation’s sake that they’re gay. Love is love, but two gay men wouldn’t necessarily be in a relationship the way heterosexuals would. They have the liberty to choose the relationship they want without societal constraints and norms. Hence, they could spend evenings separately, live in different apartments for 20 years while still together, etc. Of course, I’m not talking about ALL gay men.

‘If they are just friends, why would he likes these or tweet these things.’ We don’t know if they’re JUST friends. They could be friends with benefits, in an open relationship, several possibilities. Even I wouldn’t call MileApo, just friends or simple friends, too simplistic.

Mile isn’t playing with fans, he isn’t doing it to make fans happy, for fanservice, he’s doing it for himself. He’s acknowledging what he feels, the moment he feels it because he’s free to do so. That’s the beauty of likes and emojis, it conveys a sentiment at a certain time. Yes, he can say he’s in love with Apo without dating him. He can also imply that he loves him so much that it feels like he’s in love with him. He may just be telling us that he’s in love with Apo, and so what? It will be interesting to see how wild he would go in his declarations.

I’m so proud of Mile, because he got it. He needs to be true to himself first. He loves his fans, he wants to be a good example for them, but he can’t be burdened with their expectations, demands, etc. His fans should know what kind of human being he is. If ‘fans’ feel lead on by mere likes and emojis, it’s their business, to deal with it and they clearly don’t know him.

And do you know who taught him that lesson? This fandom, with GF gate, when they rip him into pieces for a crime he didn’t commit and the timing of it all? *Sigh*

At the end of the day, if he loses fans because he dates someone else, good riddance. If people are really their fans, they will love them, as close friends, together, separated, married to X or Y or if they go back together and they elope to Italy. Real fans’ love is unconditional if it’s conditional they aren’t fans but mere stalkers.

I’m sorry I went beyond what you asked, but it gave me also the opportunity to answer to those asks.

P.

*If you have been reading this blog, you know, of course, I'm not saying he doesn't understand English, that would be ridiculous. He has studied in the US. I think, he's bolder when it comes to interacting with English posts. If he does the same with Thai posts it would be very interesting.

Some shippers views on relationships is co-dependency the worst and unhealthy form between 2 people. Also, the need to see them together 24/7 comes from them wanting to live through them like they own and are apart of that relationship among others being their own insecurities. Its also the doubt that what they believe is true is a lie hence want consist proof when they don't owe anyone an explanation of what their status is they don't want to believe they could be wrong ruining that fantasy.

Hi!

You're perfectly right. I'm curious to know since when codependency became the norm. It's surreal how what they define as a loving relationship is actually an addiction. Each individual in the couple lose their identity and only exist as part of a pair. Their only purpose is to take care of the other, give again and again, no matter if there is something in return and stay no matter what. It doesn't even matter how what they describe could be considered an abusive relationship.

"Them wanting to live through them like they own and are apart of that relationship." What is the point to live through others when they are complete strangers? It's saner to imagine, dream on being in the perfect relationship with anyone in the planet but be part of the dream and not an observer. Is loneliness to blame? Are we so lonely that we use others to fill the void and no matter if it dehumanised them in the process? I don't have it, so your story becomes mine or what I imagine your story to be, what I want your story to be IS MINE. And you better please me and give me what I want.

It shouldn't be called shipping. Shipping is fun, unserious, tongue in cheek etc. If it causes suspicion, anger, frustration or pain, then it's something else, far darker.

This type of shipping can be compared to an addiction as well, chasing that fantasy, those good feelings over and over again. Does the satisfaction last? I can imagine the sadness and hurt when one can't get their fix. Will it ever be enough, will MileApo, give you enough?  When will it stop? Will you start hating them or blaming others because you don't get what you want? Do you really care about them or what you gain from them?

The saddest part is that we just brush this behaviour, thinking it's the way it is, it's normal. Can we imagine in real life what that behaviour will create? How and with whom a shipper choose to share their lives in real life? With this mentality, can one make healthy choices?

LP.

About this.

A little strange question..😂

But I want to ask.

It must be hard to love Apo..

He's so handsome and a little flirtatious..

Isn't it difficult for a loving person?

Hello,

Mile described Apo by saying he was like a (wild) horse. One needed to understand him if one wanted to get closer. And if you understand him, he will take you to great adventures otherwise he will kick you. Lol. That says everything.

Apo is a free spirit and he will do what the hell he wants. He makes his own rules but he respects other’s and their boundaries. I think he needs time before trusting someone. He’s a kind of person you spend the day with, laugh, talk and when they leave, you’re unsure if you really learned anything about them.

He can be flirtatious, but I don’t even think, it’s something he realises, it’s part of his language. He can be such a tease. I’m glad he’s not much of a flirt, his power would be lethal, lol.

Apo is handsome, he has so many facets. He’s handsome, pretty and adorable, but he isn’t pretentious, far from it, look at some of his profile pictures he picked. He’s goofy, funny. He doesn’t recognise how handsome he is.

During Filmania era in an interview, Apo said it was something new for him, Kinn hitting on him because nobody hits on him in real life. And who would? He’s so handsome people would naturally assume he’s already taken or has thousands of proposals. And I found it cute that he didn’t connect it to his appearance because for him it’s not the most important. Also he looks guarded, perhaps that prevents people from approaching him. And when he has a partner, he must appear very guarded indeed. Apo’s partner wouldn’t fear anyone hitting on him. I also believe Apo’s is fiercely loyal to those he loves and as he would be to a partner.

I don’t think it’s difficult for a loving person, it requires patience, for sure, to learn to know and understand him, kindness and what is essential LOVE.

If someone wants Apo, one has to earn him but as Mile said once you do, he will take you to great adventures, why not a lifetime of adventures. He will love you like you have never been loved before because he doesn’t do anything halfway, he’s always all in with what or whom he loves.

Apo is worth it.

P.

Hello. Hope you had a nice break :) I wondered your opinion on this. Some people who think MA are dating but say MA will never admit it out loud because Thailand isn't very accepting to gay relationships. Is that true about Thailand for you think? I mean I would like to think they're dating too but can't admit but is it not sounding delusional and more likely they're not dating? I know that we don't know them personally by the way.

Hello,

I had a nice break thank you. I hope you are well.

Every country has its share of shame and pride and evolves at their own pace. Thailand is a conservative country, and it shouldn’t be forgotten. But I would say it’s rather progressive compared to other Asian countries, East our Southeast. It’s for instance more progressive than let’s say South Korea. However, there is still this societal pressure to conform, even if younger people are less inclined to comply with those norms. The youth is redefining masculinity and women are increasingly trying to break free from traditional roles. As for LGBTQ+ Thailand is for instance tolerant of transgender women and Thailand’s 2015 Gender Equality Act protects them. But it doesn’t mean it’s easy and they aren’t targeted or don’t suffer discrimination and abuse.

I consider Thailand a very gay friendly country for LGBTQ+ visitors, above all in important cities. Bangkok possess a gay scene, one would find in Europe or US. But when it comes to LGBTQ+ Thais it’s different, there is a stigma and they face homophobia. Gay marriage is still not allowed in Thailand. Same sex couples don’t have the same legal rights as heterosexuals and progress is slow, too slow.

It’s paradoxical since Thailand is basically the centre of so many BL shows. However, visibility doesn’t equal acceptance, far from it. There are even BL actors who have been caught being homophobic. There is homophobia in the entertainment industry which is ridiculous since many working in that industry belong to the LGBTQ+ community. In Korea regarding homosexuality the motto is, don’t ask, don’t tell. In Thailand it’s Ask, but don’t you dare tell. Journalists can ask you but don’t you dare say yes or imply anything. In the entertainment industry, they like their illusions. Actors can flirt, even kiss in public but they can’t destroy the fourth wall, keep the illusion going. One may be gay but as long as they don’t say anything fans can keep dreaming, etc. There are openly gay actors but if they don’t have power, they are pushed in the background and play the same roles. I’m sure very rare exceptions exist.

I’m sorry it was long but the context I believe is important. Now, let’s imagine Mile and Apo are dating and decide to come out. Because they are public figures, they will certainly face all of the following or part of it, ostracism, losing job opportunities, endorsements and brand deals. Let’s not forget the hate, oppression, etc. So why go through hell when they could just keep it quiet and wait until they are less visible and work behind the scenes for instance? Wait until they have control and power. 

P.