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#look its fine its okay but all im saying is the jasprose and kanaya tag has like one singular fic
triptychgardener · 1 year
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I've always been kinda curious about what the precise origin point was for June Egbert. Like I know it was a largely collective thing birthed from the source material, but nontheless I remain curious at the exact inflection point at which June Egbert, more specifically June as a transfem interpretation of John Egbert, became "a thing" so to speak. So I did a little digging, though I am not a researcher, I am a woman with limited patience. This mostly started when I was scrolling to the back of the (new!) June Egbert tag, and found something odd! Previously, all the earliest fics were from 2019, but lo and behold, there was a SINGLE fic from back in 2017!
It's actually just a very well done, short, bittersweet work about June being alone on Christmas! Now this was notable, as I would (historically, as a modern person with limited experience in the fandom pre uhhhhh this year) consider the big Inflection point to be the Toblerone Discovery! Obviously for that tweet to become a thing, the concept was obviously floating around beforehand, but that's the moment when it started get floated into pseudo-canon spaces. But I was curious if I could find anything before that time! Sadly, my results came up relatively sparse. The most I could find was some pages that were clearly NOT from before then, and a couple of curiosities! First off was this very cute art by CallMeYukari on Deviantart! But, it's supposed to be Egbert's descendent. Nontheless, very cute.
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Also, this was just a fun little tangent, I got a couple of bandcamp pages which showed up, which turned out to just be a reviewer who had June Egbert Is Valid as a blog title.
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But I knew that the best place to search would be Tumblr. Fortunately/Unfortunately, the June Egbert tag is Fucking Enormous, and I do not have the patience nor the nohow to journey back to the beginning. But you know what isn't quite as large of a tag? Joan Egbert, which appears to have been (afaik again) a pretty commonly used name for a fem version of John! I scrolled back as far as I could, which was abouuuut 2013! Now obviously, here we come back to a bit of a conflict! Which is that, there is actually a lot of girlbert content! Buuuut most of it tends towards Genderbend and Rule 63 stuff rather than trans stuff specifically, which ain't really what we're looking for! Though I was finding transfem John stuff as far back as 2015, and likely earlier if I was more thorough, most if not all of it went under Joan! There's still a few more recent posts that use Joan, which is quite fun to see!
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Here's an example of a trans Joan post by the way.
But! Lo and behold as I scrolled to the bottom of the tag:
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A mention of June! Granted, it is again specifying a genderbent, not transfem version, but this is the earliest I was able to find on a cursory glance. So that was my little shallow dive into history! If you have more detailed information or wanna do your own digging, feel free to share more!
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seriaph · 4 years
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valentine fandom asks. do ‘em all for homey stuck
oh dang... ALL of them? here we go!
Your favourite non-canon ship?
probably junedave!
Is there a ship you didn’t like at first but ultimately started shipping?
roxygen def
What is the rarest rare pair (that you ship)?
davepeta/karkat purrhaps? or most of my wlw ship tbh lol. vrisrose, jadevris, jadekan, others...
Name a popular ship you don’t get the appeal of.
g4mk4t. is that still popular actually? i dont rly know tbh
What is your most fluffy + happy ship?
pale davenep maybe? i like da angst factor of my ships
What is your most angsty ship?
rosemary & vrisrezi are both so angsty and i love them so much but rosemary gets the crown for “has caused me to shed the most tears”. dirkjake is also angsty but they can go in their dang corner its rosemary time
A non-canon ship that should be canon?
janeroxycallie make it happen
Your oldest ship; the one you’ve shipped for the longest time?
my very FIRST ship was karezi but i dont ship it as much anymore, but i still do get the Nostalgia Pangs. as for a ship that i currently ship v hard that would be davekat, ive shipped them for 8ish years? and counting! :D junedave would also be up there but i wasnt to wild about it back then, junedave was def v weird in fandom in 2012-2013 lol. i mean so was davekat but june was just so...... meh u kno? like she was not even june anymore, fanon june was horrid
What ship represents the kind of relationship you’d love to have?
i cant think of one! :)
Is there a ship that makes your skin crawl?
*looks at the clown* *forces a smile* but as for a ship i have to see a lot that makes me absolutely uncomfortable? it starts with a stri and ends with an est, i have to filter soooo many tags just to get *most* of it outta my sight haha
What is a character you can only imagine in one particular ship?
this is a tough one! i woulda answered with dirkjake if dirkkat wasnt a thing that i ship now. i’d say jane i guess? with roxycallie. i dont really ship her with anyone else, sorry jasprose
What is your favourite canon ship?
rosemary and davekat
Name a ship that deserved more content.
roxycallie
Is there a ship you feel gets undeserved hate in fandom?
davejadekat got undeserved hate in *canon*. also give eridan ships a chance they dont have to be Like That, keep her away from women tho and im fine
What is the first ship you had?
karezi! i saw someone mention homestuck once and i looked it up and saw some karezi pictures & immediately fell in love with terezi t-the ship yes definitely (i was a repressed gay aksdljgakdslg)
Is there a ship that made you realise something about yourself?
no :)
Is there a type of ship you always go for?
rivals to lovers, or just people who bicker lovingly
Is there a ship the writers have ruined for you?
hey writers? whats up with rosemary? hey writers? hey? okay real talk davejadekat
Is there a ship the fandom has ruined for you?
tavros. just in general. oh and junekat but ive been coming back around to that one recently
Have you ever created fan created content for a ship?
yeah obvs
Favourite thing you’ve ever created for a ship?
one time i drew a picture of rose sleeping in kanayas arms but she was not a pretty sleeper let me tell you
Is there a ship you’ll never admit you have?
i uh... still like karkats shipping chart & the patron ships. junerose, davejade, jadekat, junevris, rosemary(this ones good tho lol), and kinda daverezi but tbh i dont rly ship it that much
Have you ever started shipping a ship because of the fans?
yeah def i depend on fans to see like 99% of ships tbh
What is one scene you want to see happen for all your ships?
kissy
I there a ship you wish you didn’t know existed?
i could live the rest of my life comfortably without ever having seen gamjane
Name a ship that ended like you wanted it to.
:( i guess davekat? they WERE together in homestuck proper, but the epilogues retconned that? and then they got back together in hs2 so i guess thats fine...
Name a ship that deserved better in the end.
rosevriskanrezi
Is there a character you have several ships for?
yes absolutely, im a multishipper at heart. june & karkat are my biggest targets
What is the ship you ignore 98% of canon for?
any ship that involves a dancestor, but leb8ifins definitely. i have to ignore a lot of canon to even like a dancestor tbh. i also like to ignore the epilogues because i still havent read them :)
Is there a ship you like but you dislike the fandom?
i guess gamtav has rights... i just dont like to see what fandom hands me in regards to gamzee and tavros tbh. idk i dont like when theyre baby-ified like theyre assholes let them be assholes lol. two jerks in love bonding over their traumas u kno. plus whenever gamzee dates a person it always ends up bad so its like tavros u ok there buddy... u gonna be good there... i guess gamzee fans ignore a lot of canon tho to like him haha. can relate, i like jane. (oh i didnt mention but sometimes i see really gross stuff? and its usually tied to that ship, so i guess its like a red flag or something even when i see a normal picture because i Remember)
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