Hi again! Thanks for the heads-up for this chapter! I don't usually use AO3 logged in (I get shy over commenting without posting fics of my own), so it's great knowing when to go for updates. I checked it early, but writing this took a bit. (ETA: I'm so sorry for how much of a mess this review is, I write as I read and then I get sidetracked and… well, this happens. ETA 2: This is freaking long, even by my own standards. Get yourself a drink before starting it?)
Warning given, this chapter starts with Yunmeng trio and going by the fact I already want to hug JYL and strangle WWX, I'd say you're writing them great! I love WWX in theory, but I also hate how easily and carelessly he insults JC every single time they're together. I know WWX doesn't mean to really belittle JC, but damn it, it's a form of affection I do not compute at all. You have an anti-LQR bias, I have an anti-WWX bias, if I knew him I'd punch his face within the hour. But getting back on track (wow, sidetracked within the first paragraph, this is going great), to make up for WWX being WWX, I love JYL pulling him back and calling JC sect leader! That is real material help to JC! She is, if not not worried about his choices, at least respectful enough to not question them directly. Or in front of the disciples. So bless her and her willingness to use her ability to order around WWX, who even when he's leaving I still want to slap because his reasoning is so annoying (he cares enough to bother and push JC emotionally, but not to not stray at the promise of fun? This man, I just can't with him. He'll probably get back on track eventually, but his logic is just so alien to me.)
Going ahead, JYL making sure to show concern without doubt is why she's the MVP, love that of her. JC has always been doubted, always been judged and found wanting, he needs more of this. I love how JYL asks for if JC is sure, if this is what he wants. She doesn't allow him to sidestep the question, she doesn't ask if he loves LXC because JC would say something like as sect leader he cannot wait to marry for love, but it does matter to her that JC wants this marriage, that he's not selling himself for the good of the sect, because they both know what a horrible weight to carry an unwanted marriage is, they both know how much it hurts everyone, and that's not what she wants for him.
And JC's answer! I love his answer! It's a direct parallel to LXC's to LWJ's same question! LXC wants to have a place where he's his own person, respected and listened to regardless of his gender, and because that place cannot be Cloud Recesses, then he does want to marry the one person who promises that at his own home. Similarly, JC wants his sect and himself to flourish politically so he can give his family the opportunity to have what they want, so yes he does want to marry LXC because it's a path to achieve his true desires and he trusts LXC to not undermine his goals in his search of his own. In that sense it is wanting, and yet it's not what JYL wants for JC.
Oh, so this is CQL-verse, I didn't even notice that, okay, the WQ mention makes sense then, and though in CQL I am a ChengQing believer, I think JYL is being extremely unfair bringing it up now. Like, girl, I believe you have more brain than to even suggest the idea, no matter how much JC may have wanted it, if he did. Even if he cared for WQ in that way (which here he never got to find out!), there's the whole "you're part of my trauma" issue even without considering the political suicide (which is the reason doomed romance CQL ChengQing is so cool!). Also, the trust issue that JC mentions, WHICH IS SO VALID OF HIM. NOT WANTING TO MARRY SOMEONE WHO WOULD DO NON-CON SURGERY ON YOU IS THE MOST NORMAL THING HE COULD DO. (Hey, I'm back on my "JC has the most normal —I said normal, not reasonable or healthy— reactions to trauma in this whole damn book" agenda. Because literally everyone else is insane, beginning with WWX.)
The good thing about JYL's little mention of WQ, besides the assurance that for all she's willing to enforce JC's place as sect leader, JYL still cares for him as her brother ("[I] don't want you to give too much of yourself" is literally the point I said about JYL worrying about JC selling himself for the sect, which is her acknowledgment of how devoted JC is to what he loves, something that JC needs because neither his parents nor WWX were ever good at letting him know his love was received, let alone accepted or even wanted), is the revelation that JC does trust LXC. It's a funny thing, because JC is only just figuring it out, but even before he was acting on that trust already. I love when the narration shows stuff before the character finds about it.
And back to JC and his wholehearted devotion to his family and sect, I love and hate how he tells JYL that nothing is too much for him to give. It's heartening how much he loves, it's also hurtful that JC holds nothing of himself as sacred as WWX, JYL and the Jiang sect. Something, something, you exist for this, owe yourself to it, have no worth aside from it, something, something. A mentality that JYL contradicts when she asks about his happiness. I think that question, and JC's answer, are worth much more than whatever "could have been" is there with WQ.
I also like that JC tells JYL about how this helps LXC too. Partly because that point is what gives coherence to the marriage (it already makes sense politically for the Jiang sect, but it's how it helps LXC that makes sense for JC as a person, and what would probably resonate to WWX, I think), partly because it brings the topic of omegas and their treatment. As one herself, I'd think it'd be something of a well acquitted sting for JYL, and she does mention some of it. YZY as an atypical omega is a great point! I love the comparison between them, the way it touches on how one is punished for straying out of the mold, but the other is constrained for staying inside it. I'm not sure if there's a name for this, there must be, but the point is how there's no winning route for an omega and JYL knows it from her mother's and her own experience. Even if the Jiang sect has a history of not leaning so much into omega oppression, it still have shaped all three Jiang siblings, especially JYL despite everyone's attempt to shield her. I do wonder what she's expecting of a future marriage, what with the contradiction of YZY's personality and expectations for her with JZX's attitude and the understanding that at the Jin sect omegas fear the sect leader. No wonder she's saddened to find even ZWJ would suffer for his gender, that not even the "righteous" Lan are above hurting someone simply for being an omega. Of course JC tries to reassure her after that. I'm glad JC is willing to threaten JZX again, though being real there's only so much that, as sect leader of a still recovering sect, he can actually do. If something did happen, I think they would depend on JZX himself admitting he deserved (a bit of) what the Yunmeng bros do to him to avoid getting into real trouble (which he probably would, since post-war JZX already went through the most of his character development and he's a mostly decent person).
I love how easily JC and JYL share "I love you"s. It's not that the other's brand of love doesn't sometimes rub them the wrong way (JC doesn't like JYL sending him to rest! he hates acknowledging he's not as capable as before! especially because he felt no one ever thought much of him before and he thinks himself even less now!), but they can say it and they do feel it form each other and it's very significant for how it opposes JC and WWX's love for each other, which neither feels they can say they love the other but also can't be sure that their acts of love can be understood (half the time they are not, but at least for now it's only half, since there's been no non-con surgeries nor years of lies. which makes me wonder exactly how did JC find out about the almost transplant, because I don't trust WWX to have told him. that moment must have altered their relationship and I want to see both the point of inflection and exactly where they are standing with each other now). Speaking of JC and WWX, the whole JC grimacing at WWX's antics is so part of the whole "cannot be sincere with each other" thing they have going. JC would hate anything grandiose and wasteful (mostly because the sect's coffers aren't exactly brimming with gold at the moment), but he wouldn't genuinely dislike WWX showing enthusiasm for his wedding, and JYL knows it, but still JC cannot just take WWX's exuberance in stride, it's not part of their (messed up by their parents) dynamic.
My heart aches for how JC considers his marriage under the lens of his parents', but I'm also so relieved by the fact he can feel confidence in his choice. On an unrelated note, I'm enjoying the whole JC doing introspection and considering the future while submerged in his private pond that repeats from the first chapter (may even come back in the future?). It makes it feel like that's his place, which, duh, it's private for a reason, but I mean it in the "I feel safe here" kind of sense.
Wow, I've barely finished the first section, I should move on. Let's tackle LXC's side now! I roll my eyes at the Lan elders because whether they want the wedding or not, it is happening, and it's politically unwise to not show unity as a sect. (I mean, they could intentionally be trying to say they disavow the union and won't treasure LXC once he marries out, but let me laugh at the idea of LWJ ever allowing the Lan sect as a whole turning their back at LXC with him as sect leader.) I like the mention of the awkward greetings between Lan and Jiang, a reminder of how out of the blue this wedding is, they never got time to grow closer! Also, I giggle at the image of LXC being spirited away by the Jiang servants to prepare himself to get married. Then there's how the whole wedding is a blur except for the vows! There's something there about the couple's synchronicity and what has significance in one's heart (or maybe just what a writer can dedicate time detailing).
More significantly, there's who has attended the wedding and oh! I love the detail of the Jiang having some disciples, not just the family. In part it's because the wedding is at Lotus Pier, but I think it also says something about how much the Jiang values them, despite none of them being the ones JC grew up with. They are described as "prominent disciples", but just how prominent can they have become in the short time since they joined the sect? What kind of prominent are they? I think these must be the ones that either first joined JC's recruitment, when he literally had nothing and no one except WWX and JYL, or the ones that must have proved themselves in the reconstruction, because I don't think any of them could have compared to WWX, NMJ, LWJ or LXC (or even JZX) in battle, but they sure could have made themselves known for being the firsts to obey JC's commands or putting the most effort into helping the sect, doing more than they were asked to. So, yeah, I want to know which Jiang disciples were invited to the wedding proper (I mean, if you are up to it, I know you said you want to focus on XiCheng).
For the Lan I already said my piece, which leads us to the Nie and now I want to strangle NMJ! THE FUCK IS WITH HIM SNUBBING JC AND LXC LIKE THIS?! HE THINKS HE'S TOO GOOD TO ATTEND THE JIANG-LAN WEDDING? HE'S PUBLICLY DISAPPROVING OF THEM? HOW DARE HE! *angry bunny noises* If it wasn't bad enough that this hurts LXC politically, he also makes him sad! Unacceptable. *bunny hides evidence of murder plotting* At least NHS had the decency to attend accompanied, it would have been too big an insult if he had to go by himself, it would look like only he (the unskilled omega brother) cared for this wedding, not the Nie sect. At least like this it's unconfirmed if the disciples are there because NMJ sent NHS as representative of his sect, or if they are only there because NHS insisted on going despite NMJ not wanting to acknowledge the marriage.
Then there's the Jin. I have no idea what the Jin sending so many people means. Is it an (at least on surface) signal of their interest in having a close relationship with the Jiang (and Lan?) sect? Is it a dare for the Jiang to serve so many people with their diminished wealth? Bunny doesn't know. But! I do know I hate JGS and his smarmy toast, fuck that guy! And bless NHS! A true friend of JC and LXC! LOVE how he used his "clumsiness" to his advantage. ALSO really liked JZX (and JGY, but that's more suspect) hurrying to manage JGS, I like JZX's little shows of being a decent person despite his family.
As mad as it made me, the whole scene with the toast was excellent. I love LXC hidding his displeasure while remarking on LWJ not doing so, as well as LXC noting JC shaking with rage but also signaling WWX to keep his mouth shut. It really says it all about the differences between the siblings that were raised to be sect leaders and the ones who were not. WWX and LWJ do not care for politics, they are very "this is how it should be" (mostly morally, but also to their own interests, as when LWJ is going "poor Wei Ying" over the guy that literally killed his brother-in-law —well, technically not in CQL, but he still did kill all those cultivators in Nightless city— even if there were circumstances, and because WWX is all "I do what I want and do not give a fuck about your opinion about it" even after that attitude literally kills him) and very little "this is how it can realistically be, because people in power are self-serving bitches and you cannot change that by simply thinking it's wrong", which is a huge headache for JC on a daily basis because WWX is a hundred time louder about it than LWJ. I like how the story points out that LXC does wish he could allow WWX to say what he wants to say, it's important to me that it shows LXC doesn't wish there was some polite way to handle this, he desires WWX could say what he's ready to say, even when he knows better than to act on it. Oh! Extra point here! I love LXC pointing out the condescension in JGS using JC's birth name! It's something important to me because it reminds me of the whole issue of how one addresses another person, the level of respect, and how JYL and WWX do or do not help JC by calling him sect leader when he needs them to reinforce his position. Like when JC referred to LXC as ZWJ to that one elder the other time! Titles can show distance, but they also show respect and using or not using them has meaning!
Getting back on track, after NHS saves the day, the Jiangs smooth it all over with a perfect combo: WWX clowns his way into relaxing the atmosphere and JYL politely ends the event, gold star for them! Then, on their way out, XiCheng meet NHS. I'm really happy to see him so accepting of the match, even eager for it to go well. Whether he really doesn't see where it comes from (possibly true, possibly not), he's already shown his favor by handling JGS for them. It does help that these are two of his favorite people (the way he's so playful with each of them! not quite hiding his smile at LXC and swatting JC with his fan!) who are getting together, but I think part of it is that NHS knows that JC is, if not exactly eager to start an "omega liberation" campaign, a decent person who doesn't judge his sister or NHS himself for being omegas (he probably judges NHS for neglecting his cultivation and his duties as his brother's heir —if he still is here—, but not his gender), so he will treat LXC fairly and with respect, which is more than he can say of his own brother. He had things to care of? Really? Whatever could be more important than his best friend's wedding to the sect leader of a major sect? Really, JGS, Mr. "I get off to politically oppressing barely-in-their-twenties adults" went, shouldn't that say something about how big an event this is? I feel for NHS having to tell such blatant lie. I also hurt for LXC having a front row seat to the easy friendship between JC and NHS despite their genders, while having to force himself to not think about his friendship with NMJ and what will happen to it. They don't mean to, but it really rubs salt on that wound.
Oh god, now it's time for JGY. I— fuck. Okay, here we go. It's very, uhm, say suspicious how he words his congratulations and hopes for their marriage. However, what I most take notice of is his taking LXC away from his new husband to talk to him. You… don't do that? At least say something like "if I may have a word with er-ge"! Besides being suspicious as hell, more so with that shoulder touch, even if no one thinks something inappropriate, there's how it doesn't look good for LXC to walk away from JC right after marrying him. JGY knows what he's doing and it's not nice of him, bad JGY! I can so see this being a play at making this marriage start with rumors of JC forcing the marriage and/or LXC resenting that he couldn't marry JGY (because he's a beta and there's his mother's profession), something about having XiCheng at odds with each other from the start, perhaps. Maybe putting NMJ against JC if he thinks that NMJ may come around to LXC's side despite his prejudices?
Then there's JGY's play at not having anything to do with JGS knowing LXC's secret. Ugh. I'm not even going to comment on how shitty that is (or how uncharacteristic, he does love LXC in canon —your pick on whether romantically or platonically but the man did care for LXC in his own way, he shoves him away so LXC doesn't die!), I just hate bad acting and he's not being at all convincing here (again, rare, man is an excellent liar usually, but then this is LXC, no need for his best performance with someone who wants to believe the lie). Wait, is that some jealousy I'm smelling from JGY? Is he upset that LXC only sees him as a friend? Uhm! That would be an interesting development. A particularly curious one considering he sold LXC's secret (and once again I find that so weird, JGY must have the greatest understanding of what happens to omegas, because I don't doubt for a second that there's plenty of them at the brothel, what was the logic behind selling LXC's secret? there must be something I'm missing).
Regardless of the details of JGY's machinations, I want to shake LXC. Boy, don't trust whoever tells you "I didn't do it!" just because they're your friend! Please, listen to common sense and logic a little bit more! Both you and JC suffer a lot in canon for trusting liars just because you love them and that's a great part of the overall tragedy.
Moving on, we're back to JC POV! OMG, they're so nervous and awkward, it's so freaking cute!! *squeal* And then ouch. I cringe at the landmine LXC stepped on when questioning their living arrangement. It's valid, because he was told he wouldn't have to perform those duties so obviously he'd have reservations to being lead to his husbands chambers, but damn it, he stepped on a touchy nerve. And oh! I love how hard JC is trying to not offend LXC. His situation is reasonable, it's only practical not to waste money on suits that are expected to remain empty, he has nothing to be ashamed of. But he loses face not having the money, and he values LXC so much, it matters to him so much that LXC be at ease at Lotus Pier, that he wants to make it better somehow. YZY was caged in a marriage to a man that never spoke up for her, JC wants to, at all cost, do the opposite for LXC. He wants to defend LXC and give him all the freedom possible, including his own space, even if it means giving him JYL's rooms when she marries (which would undoubtedly be painful for him, since he'd most definitely want to keep them for her).
I love that, in response to JC'd willingness to part with something precious for the sake of LXC's comfort, he sincerely says he wishes to remain by JC's side. It is so cute of him! I love his blushing ears! Of course JC melts at LXC's nervousness, the crack in his facade of the perfect jade. I'm so glad JC is finally taking LXC out of the pedestal of idolatry, and doing so to find the real human underneath no less, but rather more compelling. I'm sure I've mentioned my worries about how thinking someone is perfect can go horribly wrong, this scene is so reassuring regarding those.
Then we're back to the awkwardness. I love these two cuties, they are almost unmade just dressing. Domesticity is definitely going to kill them. JC is already crushing so bad, and between that and his "I must not be a creep" about said crush (I'm laughing so much at him, he's a good boy who drinks his "respect omegas" juice)… It's going to be awesome.
What is not awesome is JC's thoughts about himself. It never doesn't pain me when he's so critical of himself, when he sees LXC marrying him as settling for less than he deserves ("the lackluster quality of the man he’d bound his life to"). I hate this because, even when he means to be critical of only himself, he's insulting everyone else too: LXC who still chose to marry him, WWX and JYL who still stand behind him, his disciples who still chose to follow him. It's really condescending of him to think so little of himself when he's the person everyone else place their trust into! Hum!
Oh! JC finally recognizes his longing for LXC. It saddens me that this is when he acknowledges how much not even getting the chance at love hurts him. Once again I'm mad at him thinking so little of himself, as if under any other circumstance LXC really would never have even considered him, and yet I have to acknowledge that JC would need a spouse who would marry into the Jiang, which sect leader Lan would not have realistically been able to do. *sigh* It still pains me that he needs to force down and away his own feelings. I said something once about LXC deserving to have his negative emotions heard, I say the same about JC's tender feelings.
JC… My dear baby, you're not the same as other alphas. Desire is one thing, but what matters is the fact that you care for LXC's happiness above it, even as out of your depth as you feel about how to give it to him. *pats JC's head* Aw! I love how JC straightens himself as soon as LXC has a request for him. His love language clearly is acts of service, he feels good being able to do something for his important people. Even as embarrassing as wearing a symbol of their marriage (and the affection it implies) is for someone so emotionally closed as JC, he still would not consider not wearing it. I smile at how he doesn't recognize the reason the ribbon affects him more than the wedding is that a single ceremony and banquet could be anything, and it was greatly understood as a political move, but this is without a doubt a romantic gesture. It's not a universal tradition, so the fact that he's willing to participate in it means something, and everyone will be able to see it. Still, pushing past his own comfort to show LXC that his customs matter to him is so sweet! The ribbon, the fact that LXC will never get another one, means so much, and he's being so open telling JC all this and still continuing to follow the tradition with all the romantic meaning out in the air. *squeal* Of course he's delighted that JC would accept his ribbon, would protect it, would thank him for sharing it with him! God, JC really is so smooth at the most unexpected moments and poor LXC is never ready for it.
Oh, next scene is LXC's POV! I love the fact that he almost didn't mention the ribbon tradition! The insecurity and fear make so much sense. Of course he was afraid that it would be brushed off, or taken as if he wasn't leaving behind the Lan despite having already taken his vows to belong to the Jiang, which is why besides the gratitude and happiness I'd already recognized, there's the relief he mentions. *bunny cuddles for the big buff bunny that is LXC* I'm so glad he could find something a sense of security and home right after marrying. And I love him for trying to give it back when he notices JC's tension when trying to bring up whatever he came up with to match the ribbon.
Even after the ribbon, they are so cute in how careful they are about touching! Oh! And I love the fact that JC says they have enough of apologizing. This LXC definitely is the kind to say "I'm sorry" for literally anything, I'm delighted at JC being the one who guides him to break the habit. Holly fucking shit! I didn't expect that! And yet it makes all the sense! He's giving him Zidian, holly cow! Zidian has so much meaning, it's a legacy, and JC is giving it to LXC! I'm— *screeches* *stops* *breathes slowly* I need a new paragraph.
Okay, here we go. First, because later I won't have the place to mention it (I tried, didn't find a good place to do it): I see the whole thing about JC having spiritual power still, enough to transfer Zidian's mastery at least, and I want to scream because what does that mean? Does JC have the capacity to recover his golden core somehow? Is it a byproduct of Zidian's ownership and he won't be able to access to it again now that LXC is the new master? Would dual cultivation help JC in gaining more spiritual power? WHERE DOES THIS DETAIL INTEND TO TAKE US?! IS IT ABOUT JC OR ZIDIAN? ABOUT THE PAST OR THE FUTURE? DOES JC EVEN KNOW?! *crazed bunny makes conspiracy theory board about this*
*breathes again* Right, there's that, but I won't go anywhere asking those questions, so let's continue with everything else this "little" moment says. JC giving Zidian to LXC makes him family in ways that go beyond their marriage. It's how JL is Jin yet JC still made sure to be his guardian and made him able to use Zidian because he's family despite to what sect he owes himself to. Here, LXC still observes Lan traditions, but he's now Jiang, the same way YZY was Madam Yu, but still the mistress of Lotus Pier. And speaking of YZY! She was an omega! A fierce omega that chaffed against her gender's restrictions! Who was powerful and intimidating and disliked for it, yet never changed! She had a personal title, something her husband didn't, and she never stopped being the Purple Spider. And LXC now will carry her weapon, her legacy. If that's not a symbol of LXC following her path, leaving behind the restraints he'd been shackled by while under the thumbs of the Lan elders, and moving on to be as openly himself (such a Jiang thing!) as YZY was, intentionally becoming just as much an image of his married sect's power as she was, I don't know what a symbol is.
All that and I haven't even touched how much it means to JC. Zidian is his mother's legacy in every way: power, protection, pride, family. He's giving away the (incredibly loaded) last reminder he has of her! Because he can no longer wield it. It's a horrible situation for him to be, and it's a heartbreaking choice for him to make, and still he's sure of doing it, even as he grieves. She gave it to him to protect him when she could no longer do it. YZY mean to arm him so he could be his own guardian, but he gave away that chance because of his love to WWX. WWX who she resented. There's the pain of the loss and the pain of the why, the knowledge that she would never have approved of what he did and how losing Zidian is the physical evidence of her rejection of his greatest act of love. And yet, now JC is handing Zidian to the man he's asking to protect him in her stead. Physically, because JC can no longer be on par with any cultivator with a golden core when it comes to fighting. Politically, as that's the very nature of their marriage, bringing the backing of the Lan to the Jiang sect's reconstruction. Emotionally, since JC being coreless has to deal with a particular sort of ableism that's hard to argue against when JC himself believes much of it and which therefor LXC will have to shield him from. JC, always his mother's son, a matter of pride and pain for both of them, is handing so much of his own identity with this move. With it, he's trusting LXC by choosing to move from family protector (as is his place as sect leader) to the one being protected (by LXC). (As an aside: I half wonder if WWX will have something to say about LXC taking that place, considering WWX sees himself as JC's protector —see golden core issue—, except that JC is the one that disagrees with WWX on that.)
This decision is so incredibly meaningful, I'm not surprised that LXC almost feels like protesting it, and yet he's right in thinking that would be a slap in the face to the multiple gestures JC is doing with his single gift (or is it multiple gifts in a single gesture?). It's, among everything else I've already said, a most pointed acknowledgement of JC's lack of golden core. Still, JC and Zidian herself agree to this. I love that! It proves that, as little time as JC spent as her master before loosing his core, without him even getting the chance to use Zidian before it happens, the weapon is united with JC in her understanding of LXC's character, his worthiness of taking the baton as the family's (physical) protector, and will help him fulfill that role. The whole concept of weapons having unique spirits, especially Zidian, and how a cultivator can feel them, it's amazing. I love it, more so with how LXC points out that it means the special connection with Zidian (and Sandu) is another thing that JC lost, another way that he's lonely, separated from everyone (and now everything) else by his unique disability. The understanding is humbling enough for LXC to apologize, but it really is something that words cannot make better, so JC just entrusts him with taking care of Zidian and I think there's some disability motive there, but I'm not sure what exactly it says.
Then there's what to do after accepting this gift and I love that LXC's first choice is to ask JC to teach him how to wield Zidian, it's sort of him asking JC how to be his family. The answer, appropriately, answers both questions: just feel it. "Zidian listens to the heart" is absolutely beautiful both in the sense that empathic weapons are awesome and because all I said about what Zidian represents, how she's a weapon that protects, so of course she needs to be wielded by someone who at heart wants to protect. (One can notice that even when using it on WWX, YZY wanted to protect her own marriage and children. The attack is misplaced, the purpose is honest.) I'm so glad for JC that LXC is appropriately reverent of Zidian and all she entails, otherwise it would have hurt him deeply, but then it wouldn't be LXC, the man JC could trust enough to marry.
Moving on from the heavy loaded symbolism, we're back to these two cuties being awkward. *gigles* I'm never tiring of it. Oh! They fumble through it and it's adorable, but also still really erotic, which… *bunny blushes* ໒꒰ྀི ๑>///<๑ ꒱ྀིა (I had been so interested in the sociopolitics that I forgot the smut tags were there. I'll readjust my expectations.) Ahem. So, the biting was sexy, but the best part for me is how JC apologizes for licking. I love how hard he tries to not pressure LXC, even when he's yanked around by literal instinct. The second-best part is JC asking why people don't complain about the biting. Yes JC, it's a mystery (/s). sdasd My man is so ace-spec. Probably grey-ace since there's both WQ and LXC, but he's not allo and it shows. What he is, is adorable, stammering and running away after LXC's illuminating answer. Poor LXC, abandoned by his husband on his wedding night.
Oh, okay, time for LXC's introspection. Cool. I hurt because LXC feels sad and alone, but in a way I also love that he feels JC's absence. He's moved out of the life he knew because JC made him an offer, his husband is all he really has in this new home at this time, of course he worries when the two of them are so awkward with each other. What kind of home can they make if they are both so uneasy with each other? Rationality has no place for the emptiness his heart feels. The distance between the two of them even after JC finally joins him in bed is natural between two people who never got to get close in the first place, yet no less hurtful for it. In a way, it's the same as the scene when they're changing and JC wishes their marriage wasn't like it is. There's less emphasis in the physical attraction, but the longing is the same. The way LXC forces himself to be satisfied with what was given already is exactly the same as JC pushing his own emotions and desires aside as meaningless. These two are so used to compromising for the sake of something bigger, learning to choose what they want is going to be a journey for both of them. (On an unrelated note: the image of LXC first looking at JC's back, as faraway as it can be while in the same bed, and then turning around to suppress his longing is just beautiful.)
Time for the next scene. Oh! *giggles* I love "we slept at our own sides of the bed, but woke up facing each other in the middle" scenarios (not bonus tangled limbs, but still counts!). I know I say it over and over again, but it's just that I'm never not touched by JC's awareness of the social power he has over LXC. He wishes to be tender, but he's all too aware how that can be misconstrued, how even good intentions can hurt, and so he restrains himself. I'm almost positive that's going to be a whole thing between them: LXC hoping JC would get closer, JC wanting to, and yet nothing happening because JC is afraid his affection will hurt rather than heal. JC is going to need invitation, but LXC will fear asking in case it's mistaken as a demand for something that was never promised. Ah~ The woes and pleasures of arranged marriages. Then there's the classic JC running away from his feelings (half of me giggles, half of me cringes at the licking thing, because it's funny to read, but JC's fear of taking advantage of LXC is very real, and yeah, that was a sexual-coded act that he had not asked permission to do, it could have actually bothered LXC) by burying them under a mountain of work. At least he's honest about his coping mechanism?
The wedding night (and morning after) is over. I sigh at XiCheng still being awkward and keeping distance, but also am so happy LXC can find himself welcomed at his new home despite it. I love that LXC can see how the lack of strict structure doesn't mean less work, but willingness to take the tasks as they come. The Jiang are the adapting river to the Lan's unmoving mountain after all, it's good he's starting to learn to go with the flow. Ah! I LOVE that LXC attributes the effectiveness to JC, the effort he puts into being a good leader, the devotion he inspires and the fact that his disciples know when he's pleased with them, even if he's not expressing it in honeyed words. I'm so happy at LXC falling a little more in love over that, it means he recognizes the sign of JC's love (for his sect) and values it.
OH! I ADORE that LXC notices that JC is doing too much and worries. JC is not alone here, he has WWX (I love that this WWX is still in tune with JC! he knows how not to upstage him! he can and will give effective support! the wonders not having to constantly lie to his brother does to their teamwork!) and JYL (best girl always forever, her managing of Lotus Pier's servants and guests really makes obvious that she's been trained to be mistress of a great sect from the cradle), he has LXC himself (I love him doing manual labor! of course the Jiang, with their experience at money and manpower shortage, couldn't care less for his gender as long as he's working! I am surprised at him doing the accounting, though, I think that's something JC would be quite annoying about doing himself, he's a micromanager), and yet he's still pushing himself too hard. I love how LXC can see it, how he stops and watches JC, enough to notice exactly when he's gone too far during training.
Then comes their real first obstacle: LXC reaches out in concern and JC bristles defensively. His need to pretend he's not incapable of doing things his disabled body physically cannot do without hurting itself is… a problem. I get it, he has a point about needing to keep appearances for his disciples, but it does not help that he pushes his insecurities into LXC's mouth. As is often the case, JC is using his words as a barbed shield that both defends from and attacks against those that come close enough to harm him. Except that LXC bears him not ill will and all this will do his make him doubt trying to offer comfort again. *sigh* Walking away is also not a good choice. *double sigh* LXC was being so sweet, wanting to care for JC as a husband should. Bad JC. *bonk him in the head*
Oh, JC feels bad about his words? Good! He should! He has his reasons, of course he does, so did his mother. They did not change what she did or how it affected every member of her family, it won't be any different with him. Still, the real problem is confronting his internalized ableism. I love the complexity of his feelings regarding the circumstances, though. The point he makes about how he's glad and yet upset at WWX and LXC painstakingly not outshining him is delicious. I love it because WWX outshining JC has always been a problem that JC has had to deal with, he's always been jealous yet proud of WWX, and WWX never made himself less for JC. Until now. And for once WWX is doing the political thing! And it pains JC. It hurts him because he loves WWX, he wants WWX to be free to be his most amazing self, he hates being WWX's shackle. And the same goes for LXC! Having people he looks up to restrain themselves for him offends him, what's the worth of looking better when one isn't the better? JC is a jealous person, but only the kind that wishes he himself had something, not the kind that wants to take the thing out of the other person's hand (he wanted his father to hold him more often! never did he say he wanted JFM to hold WWX less!). And yet, despite all this, he acknowledges his insecurities are so great that he really would react that badly if they did not act as carefully as they do. Ah, the wonders of childhood trauma he's not yet ready to tackle.
Back to LXC, now ft JYL! Yay! I'd been looking forward to a scene with these two since the beginning! Of course JYL does the "how are you settling" thing, but with her it's not just politeness, she's very much a family person, so the questions are also genuine, as is her invitation for informality and every tibbit about herself and JC he offers. I cringe at how he quickly moves from feeling welcomed, to worried about her motives, to sympathizing with her pain. Even when wanting to be comfortable with his new family, he's so ready to be criticized. And yet he reaches for JYL regardless. Boy is starved for more relationships, especially given the distance between him and JC. JYL is a good choice for that. He's not ready to bare himself to her wholly, but let's build this relationship block by block. Starting by talking about his feelings about Lotus Pier. They take a detour after that, but when they come back, I love how JYL takes such pride in her sect's treatment of omegas thanks to her family, as well as pride in her brother for being capable of inspiring the disciples' loyalty. Her love for JC is so sweet, I love family devotion and the way she approves of LXC's acknowledgement of JC's value regardless of his core.
And then we get to the touchy subjects! First, humorously: I cackled at LXC's nervousness when JYL asked about how XiCheng are getting along as a married couple. I wish I could say he was imagining her sly expression, but as much of a proper lady as she is, she's also a Jiang (aka at least 50% gremlin), so he may very well have not (one day it will most definitively not be his imagination and I'll cackle again at him actually having to go through such conversation). Regardless, LXC's mind went to the gutter, which is all that matters, really. Then, more seriously: Despite LXC's first thoughts, he gives her a very honest emotional answer. Like I said before, he's starved for company, for someone he can be open to, and JYL did place herself right there for him to lean on, so it's only natural for him to share with her. Despite his immediate fear of having said too much or sounding inappropriate, him talking is a good thing, because it pertains JC and few know him as well as JYL.
You did mention how JYL would have her place as XiCheng's guide around marriage, here she's doing just that. I love all the points she emphasizes: 1. JC being BIG on responsibility has always been there, but it has gotten worse with his disability, so it's a significant factor. 2. It's not just LXC, he distances himself from WWX and JYL too, so he shouldn't think that he's singling him out. 3. JC still cares. Each of those things is important for LXC to figure out the complexity of who JC is and understand both how he works and how to work with him. It makes me a little sad that despite JYL being so clear, LXC is still reluctant to accept how much he means for JC. But then, it's not like JC himself is helping his case. At least I can find the humor on LXC sucking at sounding reassuring while stating that he's okay with his and JC's marriage being and staying nothing but convenience.
After that, I love that JYL plainly states that she hopes LXC would be good for JC. For the sake of bringing him around, of having him join her cause of looking after her brother, JYL makes a point of talking about how much JC loves and why he's so reluctant at accepting love back. I love that she explicitly tells LXC not think JC's suffering as merely the product of the torture (horrible in a generic sort of way, hard for anyone), because that itself is not what haunts JC, it's how it interacts with every other trauma he carries what matters. Talking about her parents and admitting the things they did wrong is socially inappropriate, and yet she's willing to spell it out to ensure JC's husband understands him, got to love that of her. Her dedication to give JC the love he deserves, both by herself and by asking LXC to do it too, is heartening. I love familial devotion.
Of course, LXC can feel for JC, and for how JYL wants to help him, but for all of JYL's trust in them, his and JC's relationship is still very underdeveloped, they are not going anywhere near her goals anytime close. He's reluctant to try and unsure of how he can help, but even without touching on the potential for romance, I say that just having one more person supporting him unconditionally would mean the world to JC and that's something I think LXC should be able to figure out, what with how much of a difference JC's support meant to himself compared to LQR and LWJ. Regardless, I am not surprised that LXC continues lingering on JC's rejection, though I am happy that he's perceptive enough to notice JC's attempt at softening the blow, as much as turning to cold politeness can be called softer. What is, if not exactly soft, definitely open, is the memory of their wedding night, I'm glad that it can serve as an anchor for LXC to still reach for JC despite his blunder! I think that this can set a precedent for Zidian being their link. The transfer being a memory they can go back to again and again, a promise, in a way, to continue giving and trusting as much as they did that night (both for Zidian and the ribbon). (Speaking of Zidian, I wonder, does LXC wear it openly or hides it under his sleeves? I have questions about what people think about it, both at Lotus Pier and eventually outside. I especially wonder about WWX, since I think JYL would accept it more easily and WWX still has the whole "I would have cut myself open to give you back the power to wield Zidian yourself" going on for him, along with "that's the very same whip that I've felt lashing on my back at the hands of your mother", which is, of course, complicated.)
Oh! I almost forgot, I skipped on it to have the emotional core of the JYL-LXC conversation all together, but I absolutely loved the part when they talk about omegas! I knew there would be interesting bits to come from this, and it totally delivered! The contrast to their perspectives is so fascinating! JYL having her sight placed on the generations to come is wonderful! LXC's thoughts about gender have always been a little self-centered, being an omega is a matter that affects him, the structural issues are significant in how they relate to him. He's passed as an alpha for a long time, and while I don't think I'd call that privilege exactly, it certainly means he hasn't had the same kind of first-hand experience with several omega problems so much as an absolute understanding of several things that could be (and eventually were) taken away from him because of his gender. Meanwhile, JYL has always lived under the lights and restrictions of her gender in a more traditional way, the things that mattered enough for LXC to fear losing are things that she never had and could only hope to gain. Considering so, of course LXC sees the backlash to him being found as an omega, the revelation personally took him away from his position of power. On the other hand, what JYL sees is the bigger picture, how the future, when no one who felt personally lied to remains, people will be forced to admit how capable he was, that being an omega didn't stop him from achieving feats of glory, didn't keep him from becoming ZWJ, regardless of what society did to him after. I'm glad that as painful as the experience was, with JYL's reassurance of the meaning it will eventually have, he can endure the consequences more easily.
OMG, I'm finally done! Days after I started and an absolute incoherent mess towards the end, but this review is finished! It didn't fit in my note app (x2), but the length is brimming with love! Now that it's over, I can go tackle what remains of our last conversation and then finally close this ask. Regarding the last ask I send, about the gender demographics: hehe, sorry for the question you had not thought about before. I get excited over world building/politics, but it's totally okay that your focus is elsewhere, it's a shipping fic after all! Thanks for considering it enough to reply to me! Also, ahdhahs congratulations on getting new readers via overenthusiastic bunny rambling, I think that's achievement unlocked for both of us! (Also, a medal to whoever read a 2.5k review + your answer without even reading the fic first. Curiosity is a good thing!)
And that's it! Bunny is done! No more writing or editing this ask, or I'll never send it! Sending lots of love, bunny cuddles and carrot cake for you to eat after finishing reading this monster! Bye-bye! 🐰💛
*looks at length of the comment* Yes. Yeeeesssssss. *cracks knuckles*
Yeah…. I love WWX as a character, but I don’t think I’d like him as much if I knew him in real life. I’ve known people whose favored humor style was fairly sarcastic and/or biting, and yeah, it doesn’t sit well with me either, nor does excessive silliness (not because I don’t like people to have fun, but because I’m an introvert and lord have mercy but highly extroverted people like WWX are exhausting in large doses, lol). But yeah, I love JYL in all forms, and you’re correct that her referring to JC there as their sect leader rather than brother was deliberate.
Your assessment of the entirety of JYL and JC’s conversation about his choice to marry LXC is beautiful. JYL is masterful at taking great care with her words and approach to ensure exactly what she means comes across. And, importantly, in a way that doesn’t make it seem like it’s a frustration or chore to, like, care about how her words and attitude will impact another person, you know? While I can’t say that it’ll be spelled out in the text, I can say that LXC, who is by no means bad at talking to people, will definitely be taking notes as he studies her, especially as he learns how to most effectively communicate with his new husband. Wonderful notes pointing out the parallels between JC’s and LXC’s answers too! I feel like that just points even more to how good a match they really are for one another.
lol. You’re the second person thrown off by the CQL mention. I always tag both “The Untamed” and “MDZS” as the fandoms for every story I write because I figure both are relevant, but I rarely leave notes beyond that. But yeah, I’ve watched the live action drama several times through, watched the donghua once, and have read part of the book but not all (though I’ve read several posts talking about the various differences). I do not really ship ChengQing, lol, though I rarely ship het pairs (a whole long-ass discourse I could go into about why I rarely enjoy het romance compared with queer romance, primarily m/m). I think they’re cute, and I think they could make for an interesting pair in a fic where they married for political reasons, but as far as general attraction, the vibe I get is more that JC is having his first crush, and who knows how serious it really is, and WQ isn’t really all that interested in return, though how much is a lack of interest and how much is her just being too overwhelmed with all WRH’s bullshit is up for debate.
I dunno. JYL asking about WQ now might be a bit of a low blow, but I do also understand the big sister instinct to ask about it since she knows that JC crushed on her, even if she doesn’t have any way of knowing how deep that affection may have gone. I could see her trying to come up with some way for him to be with WQ if she knew he really wanted that; lord knows she would sacrifice her chance to marry JZX if she knew it could give JC what he wants (all three of them are self-sacrificing to a fault, after all). As far as the “part of his trauma,” she never knew about that canonically, and whether she knows about it here in this fic is yet to be seen. But yeah, I agree that it makes sense to be leery of marrying someone who you know was willing to alter your body without your consent.
So fun fact, JC’s sudden and/or accidental realization about how much he trusts LXC was also shared by me, lol. It was in writing out that scene that it occurred to me too. But yeah, out of pretty much anyone, LXC is one of few people who has never given JC any reason to mistrust him. Granted, partially because so far they aren’t that close, but still, for someone like JC, that means a whole lot. Really the only other person who fits that category is his sister, which is off-limits here because I’m not writing that kind of story at the moment, lmao.
And yep, back to the self-sacrificing to an upsetting degree tendency of all three of the Yunmeng siblings. WWX’s is by far the loudest and most noticeable (partially because he’s the main character of the canon), but JYL quietly gives up a lot for her brothers and family up until the opportunity to marry JZX finally truly presents itself, and JC’s sacrifices tend to get lost in secrecy or clouded by the prideful temper he displays at all times as a defense mechanism.
Yeah, the omega commentary here is very parallel to issues of feminism and femininity in the real world. Not being “woman” enough, whatever that might mean, gets negative reception, but playing by the rules keeps you stuck and all the further away from any progressive change you might like. Oh, and on your comment about wondering what JYL is expecting for when she marries JZX, I will say that one reason for her putting off marrying him (in addition to staying beside JC to be the support he needs) that I didn’t explicitly comment on is that she’s waiting for proof that he is a good enough man and strong enough man to protect her from anything his father might do to her. I won’t be dwelling on it much at all since they’re not the focus of the story, but that’s what’s running in my head; similar to how I feel like, canonically, given all that we know about how disgusting JGS is, I’ve no doubt that JYL most likely needed a watchful eye from both her husband and her mother-in-law to ensure that JGS didn’t try to prey on her too.
Yeah, we don’t really see any uttered “I love you’s” in canon, but I don’t doubt for a moment that they would come easy between JYL and JC. She would know how much he needed to hear them, and JC, who loves so much and, as you’ve addressed, has so few opportunities to really express or share that, would be beside himself to always vocalize it to the one person for whom it would always be welcomed, cherished, and believed. For him and WWX, the two of them definitely do love one another fiercely, but there’s a whole lot there that makes it difficult to share, not the least WWX’s very precarious and uncomfortable position as the foundling ward caught between all the family’s drama as well as JC’s inability to really see how that affects him (not that I blame him, because he’s also just a kid, so how could he even be expected to recognize something so nuanced?). Regarding how JC found out and how things drastically shifted course, that’ll come up in more detail in a later chapter.
Yeah, it’s only natural that JC would consider his marriage in comparison to the only solid example he has. But, he at least is capable enough of learning from others’ mistakes, so witnessing all that drama at least comes as a benefit in the big ol’ warning it is to not do literally any of that, lol. And yass, I’m glad you appreciate JC’s safe space too. It definitely will make more appearances.
I definitely wanted there to be significance to the synchronicity in their bows. Partially as a tell that they well and truly are soulmates. But yeah, another reason to focus on only one thing from the wedding is because of saving space and also because I really don’t know anything about Chinese wedding ceremonies, traditional or otherwise, and I didn’t want to devote the time to researching it just for my written-for-fun-despite-how-exhausted-I-always-am fanfic. 🙃
I honestly didn’t give a lot of thought to what made those specific Jiang disciples prominent; unless my plans change, right now I don’t have any intention to focus on any of them because narratively there’s no need to, and I tend to shy away from introducing OCs for anything more than the smallest side roles that I need them for. I like your idea of them being some of the first to join JC despite everything that happened to him and his sect. It could also be people who very noticeably threw themselves into their training or the restoration of Lotus Pier more than anyone else. Solid heads for strategy, good leadership skills, unique prowess on the few night hunts they’ve tried; who knows. But yeah, something about them is standout in particular.
lolol. For NMJ, we’ll just say he’s having some feelings and didn’t feel like he could go. Lord knows the man doesn’t really know how to keep the calmest or most level-headed approach when he’s all riled up with emotions. *tries to calm angry bunny with snackies* But yeah, as much of a goober as he present himself as, NHS is pretty savvy regarding social norms and appearances and all that; he knew better than to go alone (and besides, can you really imagine someone like him traveling without a few buddies along?).
The Jins had so many people because that’s how they do. Just like JZX traveling to Cloud Recesses early on in the canon with a big ol’ group of people, most of whom wouldn’t be studying, because they’re big ol’ fancy pants people who just gotta flaunt their wealth, status, and numbers. Not to mention, for JZX, it’s an excuse to see JYL and for JGY, it’s an excuse to see LXC. JGS is just a hateful jerk who lives for drama and to look for any way to be socially acceptably rude…not expecting a done-with-this-shit NHS to “accidentally” stumble to the rescue. 🤣 Kid’s a hero, and I stand by that.
You’re exactly right about the names and titles! I’m using all of those, especially names, very intentionally in this story (and each time I talk about that with a reader, my anxiety for editing the chapters goes up 10-fold because of course now that I’ve got people’s attention on that, I just know I’m going to fuck up and use the wrong name somewhere 😭). But YES! The use of a title in certain circumstances can force a reminder of respect when needed, just as use of birth name can either be a dick move or a sweet indication of intimate closeness.
I love NHS. He’s not my favorite character, because that’s JC (followed by LXC by virtue of shipping him so hard with JC), but he’s, like, my sneaky almost favorite that I don’t think about much but always shows up in my fics being awesome because he’s just great and I think he’s fun. Back to JGS’s motivation to come, I will say, if he wasn’t so much of a douchebag and if the scenario were slightly different, he definitely wouldn’t have bothered to come to what is, as he would dismissively say, such a low-stakes wedding. But he smells the opportunity to publicly humiliate people that he already disdains, so there he goes; plus, he’s still irritated that JC found a way around having to kowtow to him and marry JYL to him, thus giving up his sect to the Jin’s control.
Yeah, JGY definitely knows what he’s doing by pulling LXC aside alone with him, even if LXC clearly doesn’t. But it’s so easy to get away with too! This society expects everyone to be polite, including being polite about social missteps (to a degree and depending on who all is involved, of course). But yeah, because of that, JGY can get away with what could be considered a move in poor taste, especially given his beta status, his status as LXC’s friend, and his status as a person of “lower” birth who could play the card of not knowing better or the “I’m not really a threat anyway so you have to forgive me” card. Regarding what he’s saying to LXC, you are correct that JGY doesn’t have to try very hard with anything he says, whether true or not. There’s a user here on Tumblr named nuexue who did an episode-by-episode analysis of almost all of the Untamed drama episodes that was phenomenally insightful and engaging (seriously, I think you’d really dig it since you are so analytical with your assessment of even my stories), and she points out how understandable in the source material it is that LXC doesn’t see any hints of what JGY is up to, partially because he’s his friend so he doesn’t want to see any bad in him and partially because, very likely, JGY probably avoided being deceitful with LXC as much as possibly purely because LXC was so accepting of him. As for what JGY did here in this story and any motivation he may or may not have had? Only time will tell.
The awkwardness between JC and LXC was absolutely delicious to write. The tentative beginnings to a relationship are so endearing and fraught with moments you can’t help but sympathize even as you also cringe. You are right that both are going to struggle with figuring out all this “close but not too close” stuff, lol. Especially poor JC. Poor boy just wants so badly to be good.
Also, very good assessment that JC putting himself down internally is, in fact, an insult to everyone who cares about him. Just as a character so quick to be willing to throw their own life away is a direct disregard of the love or care anyone around them has for them. (There’s an anime/manga/something I’ve seen where learning this is a pivotal moment for a character, and I cannot for the life of me remember what it was or who the character was, and it’s going to drive me crazy.) But, given all that’s happened to him and treatment from his parents as well as publicly-known opinion about him, I also can’t really blame him for having such low self-esteem. He and LXC both experience this, albeit for separate reasons, but it will eventually be something that helps bring them closer together.
I LOVE your enthusiasm for everything revolving around LXC giving his ribbon to JC. Because yes, it is so very significant for so many reasons. LXC definitely wasn’t originally planning to disclose all those details, but JC’s presence, the fact that LXC well and truly does trust him so much already and his oath at how their relationship will be, that the words came easy for him after all. And then behind all that, awkward careful touching, haha! Once again, back to JC oh so desperately not wanting to be a creeper, lol.
Regarding your question about JC having a smidgen of spiritual power to briefly activate Zidian…I’ll just leave you to that conspiracy board for now, lol. There definitely will be more going on with this later, but I can’t say anything without revealing spoilers. You are correct that it is significant any not just a one-off thing. But back to the transfer itself, yes! JC giving up Zidian to LXC is so significant!
(Also, I really gotta say, as someone who’s focus both when writing and also when consuming content is always focused particularly on the emotion or feeling of a thing or moment rather than specific logical or analytical approaches, I am absolutely delighted to read your assessments of what I’ve written. The imposter syndrome wielding bitch in my mind tries to convince me that you’re giving me too much credit, but really, I think a lot of what you’ve laid out here is very intuitive to me as I write, but not in a way that I could ever articulate it so well as you do. So thank you for sharing all these beautiful thoughts and analyses with me! 💜)
It's very interesting that you’re commenting specifically on part of JC’s decision to hand Zidian over to LXC being specifically because he’s looking to LXC for protection. Because he absolutely is in a position now where he needs that from LXC, but he’s not consciously acknowledging that at all yet. Right now, all he’s focused on is just political shit, the fact that he needs LXC’s and his sect’s support to keep his sect afloat as well as the fact that his status as a sect leader can provide LXC with the social protection that he needs. The other side of things…definitely hasn’t set in just yet. I also love that you focused on the ableism too and on how JC needs to be protected from that, including from his own self. That is a fairly significant focus in this story, JC’s process coming to terms with the changes in his life and LXC learning the best ways to help his husband with such a burden. (Note: I haven’t commented on each aspect you commented on here, not because I don’t care of disagree, but because most of it is so thorough and spot-on that there’s nothing left for me to do but flail and squee excitedly, lol, so my apologies for just breezing through much of that, but my hat off to you once more!)
The concept of the spirits having their unique spirits has intrigued me so much since getting involved in this fandom. I’ve seen it range significantly across fics from being barely touched on at all to one I read very early on in my journey into this fandom where WWX’s soul had gotten sealed along with Suibian after his death and they could talk to one another (which was such a cool concept). Also, I know that per the book, the final confrontation is NMJ’s corpse coming after JGY in Guanyin Temple, but I really like the idea of it being Baxia in the live action drama, both in seeking vengeance for it’s wielder, but also in how it kills SS after NHS fakes being attacked by him, implying a loyalty of the sword spirit to NMJ that even it would also feel the drive to protect his little brother. It also reminds me just a bit of the manga/anime Noragami, where the Shinto gods use the spirits of dead people as their regalia (typically weapons and armor) and the relationships they establish with them. All that to say, that’s partially why I leaned on it a bit more here, as well as to twist the knife regarding what more JC lost with his core. But yes, the revelation/consideration of that from LXC does lend him an even greater amount of sympathy than he already had.
Heh. I had to chuckle so much that you’d forgotten that this fic is rated E. It’s very slow burn for the *ahem* truly explicit scenes, but yeah, even the exchanging of the mating bites is an intensely intimate moment, especially for two people who’ve barely had the chance to connect in much of any way. I also LOVE your comment about JC being ace coded! I, like many others, think it’s very easy to read him canonically as ace coded for a number of reasons, and I’ve written him as heavily ace in a couple of my fics. Here, I didn’t approach it necessarily with that mindset, but there are still arguably some remnants of that. But yeah, I am on both the ace and aro spectrums, so that’s yet another reason I’m so very endeared to JC, because the potential ace-ness is another way that I feel connected to him. Also, random aside, but it’s also interesting that you mention his crush on WQ here, because there is another way we can interpret that crush to support the “JC is ace” theory, which is that it’s him choosing a socially appropriate person to have a crush on like he’s supposed to, but one he knows is out of his league, so there’s no risk of it coming to fruition; that is something that some ace/aro people do when growing up to avoid having to have awkward conversations before they’re ready about not having crushes and all that. But yeah, JC idly asking about why the bites are a thing is partially inspired by me, lol. While I do have the ability to understand, enjoy, and get invested in romance/sex in a fantasy setting, both of them truly stymie me in real life, and I’ve had so many moments of questioning things, only to get askance looks from my allo companions, lol.
Ah yes, the longing. There will be so much of that, lol. But yeah, it is only natural to want closeness with a spouse, regardless of the situation, or maybe even because of it. And the physical representation of that internal distance that he’s feeling just makes it all the harder. Thank goodness their subconsciouses will instinctively fight that all the way! 😁 I just had to have them quite close in the morning, and they’ll only be getting closer the longer they’re together. It is an inevitability! Even if it’ll be slow, like JC’s overwhelming urge to be as hands-off as possible with LXC in order to protect him. (You are so so correct that this will be a continued issue between them: you’ve got one who’s sworn up and down to be respectful, and you’ve got the other interpreting that as a lack of interest and so something that can’t be asked for.)
I had to laugh at your comment about JC being a micromanager and your surprise that he’d let LXC do the accounting. Honestly, I can see that assessment of him a bit, but I do also think, depending on the other individual’s experience or level of importance (and truly, is anyone more splendid than LXC?), I think JC would be able to make the smart decision to delegate as needed. And so that small tidbit was also inspired by myself, because numbers and math can go die in a fucking fire, haha! I am the kind of person who has had to call her mother in tears multiple times to beg for help figuring out why her damn checkbook won’t balance correctly. I was an English major, dammit! There’s a reason I didn’t choose math. 🤣 So yeah, I guess a little self-insert characterization there.
But yeah, LXC is truly invested not only in his new home but also his new husband. And he’s so experienced a cultivator as well! So of course he takes note of JC’s actions, and of course he notices how he’s struggling. There’s no way he ever wouldn’t have on either account. And, sadly, it must devolve into their first fight. As well as they fit together, there are several ways that they don’t yet—like JC’s temper compared with LXC’s temperance—and it will be a learning curve for both to navigate, both to learn how to understand one another better as well as how to take care of one another.
But of course JC immediately feels bad! He’s not a dick or a bad guy, and I will die on that hill. He’s an overwhelmed, very stressed-out young man who is probably scared out of his wits more than half of the time who has terribly stunted emotional intelligence, largely caused by his upbringing. Honestly, it’s not all that different from, speaking broadly, many men (particularly in American culture). There’s such a pervasive amount of pressure to be “manly” and all that, that men are conditioned to never express any emotion apart from anger. It’s sad and upsetting, and something that needs to change…and just maybe something that eventually will change for JC here.
Once again, another excellent point from you, that JC’s jealousy is only the type in that he wants better/more for himself but never ever less for others. He doesn’t want to take, but rather only to grow.
The conversation between LXC and JYL was another that I was super excited to get to because they’re really a couple of my favorites as far as how soft and gentle they can be. Like you said, LXC is still a skittish man right now who still frets about and expects to be found lacking: he’s heard it his whole adolescence and young-adulthood, after all! So who better than JYL to gently ease him into truly feeling a part of the family? I also like when JYL talks so proudly about JC. I think she would anyway, but I think you can also learn a lot about a person based on how other people who know them talk about them when they aren’t around to hear what they’re saying. (You can also learn a lot about the person speaking if they’re a two-faced jerk, lol, but that’s another story.)
Oh yes, the sly look absolutely was there. The moment JYL heard about the upcoming nuptials, she made it her mission to do everything she could to steer this ship into genuine romantic waters, lol. As you note, she’s laying all the groundwork by giving LXC the inside scoop of what his husband is like and why he is the way he is. But it makes sense that LXC hesitates to believe that he’s important. His low self-esteem is slightly warping JC’s “I won’t ever take advantage of you pledge” to actually be “I won’t do that and it’s at least in part because I don’t want to,” and the longer their distance lingers, the worse that fear will likely become.
I like that you point out that the wedding night is a solid example/reminder for LXC of the softness and care that is within JC because it was such an odd night compared to the “normal” wedding night experience, but it’s true! LXC, even if he’s worried that this marriage will flounder or that he won’t be able to do what JYL is pushing hard for him to do, is perceptive enough to understand that the JC he saw that night who accepted his ribbon, who gave up his spiritual weapon, who licked his neck and then awkwardly apologized for it (lol) is real. So too might be the grumpy “I’ll bite your head off if I so much as get a whiff of you feeling pity for me” Jiang Cheng, but the softness is there, so there’s hope to bring that out more.
Regarding Zidian, LXC wears it openly! Just as JC wears his ribbon openly. The disciples at Lotus Pier may have some thoughts about it, but they haven’t got the history with the weapon that the rest do, and their loyalty to JC is such that they’d never gossip about it anyway. No telling what people outside the sect will think when they see or if we’ll even delve into it. JYL appreciates it—both on LXC in the first place and LXC wearing it openly—for the sign of acceptance and trust from JC that it is. As for WWX…his feelings are a bit more complicated than that, but not to any extreme degree.
lolol. Funnily enough, it took you multiple days to write out all your thoughts here, and it took me two days to get this reply to you composed as well. 😆 Nothing wrong with having a lot to say about a passionate topic, though. Thanks a bunch for your continued excitement and enthusiasm! 💜
(To anyone who’s read through this and now wants to check out this fic I’m writing, here’s a link: https://href.li/?https://archiveofourown.org/works/48148945)
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1. Hey Mojo! I hope you had a good New Year! I was wondering if you could help me find a fic. Basically instead of Wen Chao throwing Wei Ying in the Burial Mounds he has him killed and hung from his ribbon in Nightless City. Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji find him, but Wei Ying is a resentful spirit and ends of possessing Jiang Cheng (with his permission I think) in order to finally get his revenge on Wen Chao. I've been looking everywhere and its like the fic just disappeared. Thank you for your time!
FOUND? Missing Pieces by LixyStrange (T, 10k, WangXian, ghost, Death, Revenge, biggest fear, Dogs, hounds, Gore, Dismemberment, revenge is a dish best served searing hot, Heartbreak, Hurt No Comfort, Bittersweet Ending)
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2. Hi. I'm searching for a fic which may or may not be a part of a series. What I remember is that LQR is teaching WWX and is irritated by him. WWX has also adopted A-Yuan. LQR is teaching because his core has some problem. It is a modern AU. IIRC LQR convinces WWX to write a thesis. That is all I can remember. Thank you for your time and help.
FOUND!....LQR fic anon here, I found the fic I was looking for it's CSI: Gusu Edition by Stratisphyre (M, 39k, wangxian, lan qiren & wei wuxian, 3 works, series in progress)
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3. Hii, id like to ask abt a fic wherein there's a problem with the whole mxy resurrecting wwx thing and because of that the ghost mxy kept on trying to kill wwx so that he can prevent a painful death. And it turns out that Wen Qing is alive and have saved WWX by transferring JC's core to WWX. huhu just cant remember the titleeee.
FOUND! Twelve Moons and a Fortnight Verse by stiltonbasket (M, 470k, wangxian, my post)
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4. Hi! Hope you're having a lovely day and all is going well in the new year. I haven't really sent an ask (well ever) so I hope I'm not offending you but I've been looking for a fic for ages. It's set post canon and I remember a major plot point was that wei ying had a collection of (very sad!) letters he kept in a box addressed to lan zhan that he never sent. The box I believe was cursed, and I think ghosts were following him around, or at least lingering in the places he had frequented. Juniors were there as well, and Sizhui reads the letters which causes a sort of blow up, where he asks that if Wei Ying feels so awful on his own why couldnt he come to live with his family (this outburst and intrusion into his privacy I think is explored in a second part of a series?) If you can help I would be super grateful!!!
FOUND! dock of the bay by Haysel (T, 21k, wangxian, here, have the wayback machine link to it since it’s been taken down)
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5. Do you help with finding fics? If not, no pressure, please ignore this! 🥰 I'm looking for a fic I read abt 1 Yr ago, I think it was a famous fic at the time. It had Nie Mingjue also brought back to life, and I think it was from his pov. But noone recognised him and he was going round learning what has changed in his absence. It was a multi chapter fic.
FOUND! ... Hello this is the anon who asked about a NMJ fic before, don't worry about it. I found it! Once Upon A Time in Qinghe by paranoid_fridge (T, 22k, nie mingjue & nie huaisang, wangxian, my post)
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6. Hi! I am looking for a specific fic that I know I bookmarked but can’t seem to find. Its post-canon. It had a/b/o, lwj was alpha and wwx was omega because of mxy. wwx original body was alpha. past!wwx from the war arrives in the future and i think future!wwx, pst!wwx and lwj has threesome. past!wwx was kinda annoyed at the beginning because he thought lwj dragged him to gusu. I have tried to use simple tags like time travel and abo, but i didn’t find it. Hope I didn’t explain it too bad😅
FOUND! How to Deal with the Conundrum of Your Past Self: A Case Study by anatheme (E, 17k, wangxian) - “Wangxian now have an extra wwx! Such fun abo dynamics, eager bottom lwj, toppy/dommy omega wy, sweet wwx, and shennaningans”
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7. There are two fics I am looking for. (7a) Modern au where Wwx paints a picture of lwj's hand and they date about it, then take off onto an adventure when Lqr tears it into pieces. (7b) Wwx realizes that pieces of his body are changing, like his hands are bigger and then his hair is longer, stuff like that. He slowly gets his body back piece by piece and wangxian thinks he's dying.
7a FOUND! Hangover by TriviasFolly (T, 83k, wangxian)
7b FOUND! Saw My Life in a Stranger's Face by timetoboldlygo (T, 27k, wangxian)
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8. Hello Ive been trying to find this fanfic for ages now i cant seem to find it. This fanfic is about how the JinSect captured wei wuxian just before he died and kept him as some sort of sex slave and constantly rapes him (Im pretty sure it starts with JiangCheng trying to have a conference with JinGuangyao while JinZixun is fucking wei wuxian infront of him but cant tell its him cause his wearing a blindfold)huaisang end up saving him with others, he also secretly save JinLings parents and WenQing ~ @emily22006
FOUND! Find Someone to Carry You by Aquadrazi (E, 77k, wangxian)
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9. Looking for a fic! It’s a fic where WangXian get cursed to be unable to touch each other and there is a scene where they’re staying in lotus pier and they find out that they can touch while in water. For some reason I didn’t bookmark it even though I love it! ~ @waitingfortheoncomingstormpilot
FOUND! ❤️爱不释手; never let me go by yiqie (E, 69k, wangxian, my post)
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10. hi mojo, thanks for your blog! I found some good fics thanks to you and so many reminders of great fics to re-read! If you have time, I'm looking for a WX fic that I read some time ago on AO3. Somebody (JC?) erased WWX from existence. The sunshot campaign happens, does not go well. Then WWX is summoned back, and teams up with NHS to fix the war. I think at some point JYL and babyJL are saved by WWX from being held hostage by the Wens. LWJ has missed WWX and joins the team. Hope you can find it! ~ @vasterthanempires
FOUND! The Way It Wasn't by KouriArashi (T, 72k, wangxian, xiyao, my post)
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11. Hey!! Thank you for working so hard, i am sad that you are receiving such terrible messages. I was trying to find a fic (probs post canon) where lwj was dying bcoz oh his love for wwx so wwx curses lwj to forget him. But the story starts when wwx comes back to cr to research the curse and spends time with lwj. Lwj falls for him over again but believes that wwx already has a spouse. Thank you sm hope you have a nice day!!
FOUND! Unavoidable by diamondbruise (T, 19k, wangxian)
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12. Hiii! So glad you're back, hoping you have an incredible new year full of health and happiness! I was wondering if you or anyone might recognise this fic? It's a Canon AU, where Jiang Yanli and JGY become friends and he gets to hold Jin Ling, and I'm pretty sure it's a nobody-you-care-about-dies fic. I know there's a scene where JGY thinks about how powerful WWX is, but he knows WWX doesnt trust him so he plans to stick close to Yanli as like a "If i die, she'll be sad, so Wei Wuxian will protect me as long as I don't hurt anyone he cares about" deal. It's wangxian but i dont think the romance was the focus, more a bamf!WWX. Unfortunately thats all i can remember so any help would be really appreciated! ~ @warriorwerewolfheart
FOUND! at the end of a storm (is a golden sky) by KouriArashi (M, 106k, wangxian, jiang cheng & wei wuxian, chengqing, yunmeng siblings)
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13. Hello, I don't really remember much from the fic other than its a wangxian romance and I remember a scene when the two are in the library (as teens) and wwx asked lwj to read to him. The chapter (or maybe the whole fic) was from lwj's pov as he thought something along the lines of "nobody liked his voice and the other kids wouldn't listen when he read in class." Thank youuuu, if you can find it or just for looking anyway.
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14. I’m looking for this fix where Mo xuanyu was the Yiling Patriachs disciple and they were called to help the sects take care of the Wens. I don’t remember. Whole lot it was a long fic the main ship was wangxian
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15. Hello! I’m going in circles trying to find something I am very sure I read and did not imagine..Wangxian as members of a mountaineering club. A misunderstanding happens, one gets jealous and rushes out into the snow. It ends with Wei Ying being picked up on the road and rescued by Lan Xichen and Lan Qiren, and wangxian reunites. Does that sound remotely familiar or did my brain somehow combined a few fics into one…
FOUND! green the ground below by azurewaxwing (t, 4k, wangxian)
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16. Hi! I am looking for a specific fic. It takes place during the cloud recess study arc. All I can really remember is that Wei Ying and Lan Zhan start meditating together to merge their spiritual energy and eventually they are able to actually merge together into one being. I do remember that they merged together during the Wen attack and Wei Ying used talismans on both Jin Zixuan an Lan Qiren. I hope I'm not combining fics together LOL. Thank you!
FOUND! ❤️Gentians in bloom by teawater (M, 251k, wangxian, my bookmark)
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17. Hi! I was recently told there is a time travel fic where LWJ travels back in time by possessing the body of his younger self and each time he time-travels he has to sacrifice a part of the next timeline LWJ's golden core. Does this ring any bells? Do you happen to know it? ~ @vikreads
FOUND! Looking at You Always, All Ways by Keysmashed (T, 29k, wangxian, my post)
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18. hi i’m looking for a canon divergence fic; the nie sect ends up helping wwx and the wen remnants, wq found a way to help wwx restore his core and i specifically remember wq, maybe wn and another nie sect doctor having to heal wwx’s past wounds first and so when he stopped using the resentful energy they all opened up, both lz and jc were there
FOUND! ❤️ everyone has a braincell of their very own by MarbleGlove (T, 18k, wangxian, 2 works, series in progress, my post)
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19. Hi! I’m new to your blog (it’s been a god send by the way I’ve been stuck rereading my favorites) but I was hoping you could help me find a fic I forgot to bookmark? Basically it’s a pseudo time travel fix it but Adult LWG goes to the past meeting up with young WWX while young LWJ goes to the future meeting up with Adult WWX. Then the pairings switch places, then both pairings end up in future where they give advice and do the obligatory teasing! However it’s a bit different in the young Wangxian universe is a divergent universe. Something to do with the Nie family tree? I really hope you can find it! Thank you so much for your help and all your wonderful fic recs!
FOUND! Back to the Seasons of My Youth by justdoityoufucker, MeliorismMint, Potatoes_Radishes, Vrishchika (T, 14k, wangxian, lan sect & wei wuxian)
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20. Could you help me find a fic? It goes something like - JC performs the summoning ritual instead of MXY . When wwx opens his eyes he sees himself in JC's body with him gone.Thank you for your help! ~ @lostsoul234
FOUND! might be this Saddest Timeline prompt/ficlet by @tanoraqui or something written in response to it like The Worse Tomorrow by donutsweeper (T, <1k, wangxian).
FOUND! A Worse Timeline by donutsweeper (T, 2k, wangxian, series in progress)
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