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#i just like. ok i dont wanna call this a case of shipping goggles its not THAT bad. but i wish that people wouldnt HAVE to ship things to
snailfen · 1 year
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(regarding the five pebbles and seven red suns ship) i feel like when it comes to the iterators either interpretation could be valid?? like some people interpret them as friends, some interpret them as family
like, lttm says "one of [pebble's] friends" when talking about suns, and then suns themselves says (paraphrasing a bit) "as a long time friend" on the pearl they send to him
in regards to the ancients calling themselves the iterators parents, i always felt like it was akin to the way some religious people say that everyone is a children of [insert god here] or something, like a metaphor
sorry for the anon jumpscare i'm a bit nervous, the last thing i want is to be called a pr/shitter- i just personally have always interpreted them as friends
no no youre good cus im not looking to cause shit myself! im just confused. if anything i was nervous to ask anything cus ive heard some people in the rw discord are quick to dispute this whenever its brought up about shipping the two and as someone whos been around fandom for a long time thats a preeeetty bad sign.
also same here abt seeing suns and pebs as just friends, its just that now that ive returned to rw a few years later and looked into the lore pearls again that i think its implied that iterators would see eachother as somewhat related perhaps?
i didnt think about the iterators being considered like "children of (godlike figure)" but in hindsight, thats also a possibility. In the lore pearl that this is brought up they also say that five pebbles is "their gift to the world" or something like that, and that seems to fit with that theme as well...
and yeah, when it comes to all forms of art, no interpretation is truly wrong. i think the main point that bothers me aside from the possibly siblings stuff is i feel like this isnt what people should be getting out of the iterators plotline? like shipping is fun. it is for fun. im not gonna go after people for that! but i also feel like people should be taking a step back and appreciating the characters for what they are and not for what they could be. if that makes sense?
about your second point, i have something to say about that but its MAJOR downpour spoilers, specifically for the rivulet and the spearmaster campaigns so im just gonna put it under a readmore
in the rivulets campaign, when asking the rivulet to do one last thing for him, pebbles calls moon "an old friend" himself (in fact thats what the achievement for finishing rivulet is called). moon very explicitly sees pebbles as a younger brother and expresses this at the end of the campaign. and in the spearmasters campaign theres those satellite things that show iterator logs when touched, and we get to see 2 iterators (from what i assume to be a neighboring group) gossiping about pebs, one of them brings up the fact that pebs was built near moon and the other asks "Isn't she his senior enough to the point where she calls herself 'Big Sis Moon'?". Its much more explicit that moon views her group as her younger siblings but pebs still calls her an old friend of his regardless!
last of all, someone said this in the tags of my post but looking at the lore pearl convo between pebbles and suns as well as the one between suns and wind really gives suns the impression of an older sibling, at least it does to me. also, back to those satellites in the spearmasters campaign, suns says that pebbles always looked up to them and they never took that lightly. srs is someone pebbles considers close because he looks up to him!
Their dynamic is something interesting to me now bc of downpour and im all about bullshitting and reading into things a little bit more for ships, but looking at SRS and FP.... how do i describe it. i dont really feel like theres SPACE for shipping in this case? like it wouldnt be necessarily invalid but its kinda missing the Point of the spearmasters campaign i feel. infact i feel like this is the only reason people see seven red suns as male despite none of the other iterators having specified genders (unless the dlc confirmed a gender for suns, then i missed that). anyways this last paragraph is just me rambling oops
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arttrampbelle · 10 months
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Controversial opinion on mks ships ahead and venting
Cageblade is a boring white couple and is a white dudes fantasy and you know it.
Sonya don't need dick. She needs friends.
Yet you eat it up for hashtag girlboss instead of seeing how gross and forced it was. (Because y'all love to call out a dude who be like johnny cage,forcing himself and trying to hard to impress a woman that clearly aint interested. Oh but cuz johnny is funny,cute,and you like a ship. Suddenly its ok for him to be cringe and low key creepy? Sonya didn't love him. The writers wanted sonya to love him. Know the fucking difference!!! Because they couldn't stand to see sonya with a man of color. Which was pretty much anyone else on the roster BUT johnny. Or heaven forbid make her gay. Oh but johnny can be bi because you think its cute not for actual bi representation. No for shipping. You dont wanna look at yourself doing this shit. But you guys are. When people call you out. You get mad. Well then stay mad. Im sick of this shit from this shit fandom.)
(I swear people praising cageblade and then go and shit on jade and kotal. When both were handled terribly. No honey. Both were trash. But kotal is new and neve rgot character development. And clearly the game devs hate him. You never gave him a chance. I've seen some people write him pretty decent. So maybe look there)
(Also i get tired of fans praising ships and not seeing the bigger picture on WHY i hate it)
Johnny don't need pussy. He needs to find himself as a warrior.
Mortal kombat isn't about fucking dating.
Its about kombat and war. Period.
Not saying you cant find romance and love but if you want that go play a dating sim game.
This is a fighting game. Ment for fighting.
Throwing hands. Rage. Etc.
Sure the characters have complex stories.
But i feel people need to take their shipping goggles off for five seconds. And actually pay attention to the genre of media they are fans of.
Like look i get it. You want your blorbos to be happy. I do too. Some ships are cool.
But at the end of the damn day they all gonna get wrecked. Thats how this particular game works?!
Hello?!
Like some ships never made any sense. Ever. Even in best case scenarios.
But its not just the writing team. Its wb. Its higher ups.
Boon letting this shit slide. Yeah ive been fucking telling y'all where to actually put blame.
The writers are shit. Yes. But boon is in charge. He's not doing a good job. Wb is the parent company. So anyone in charge of nrs thru wb. Is where you should be angry at and with more.
If we are gonna get mad. Get mad at shit worth it.
My personal gripes with ships aside. Im more mad at corporate.
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