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icarusallusion · 2 months
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Gray Fox's last words in both games will always be so important to me in understanding him as a character in whole. Especially his relationships with war and people and how he views them
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Starting with this dialogue about Big Boss.
These are Frank's dying words and he uses them to praise Big Boss. These lines and their relationship shows Frank's devotion and loyalty on it's own. Countless times he has left friends, family, and lover behind to pursue Big Boss and his goals. This, while not a very healthy attachment, does speak greatly about what kind of a man Frank is and how devoted he can be.
Because he is not just devoted to Big Boss, he is also devoted to Solid Snake, he doesn't want Snake to die, he feels bad about betraying FOXHOUND, and he feels bad about lying to him in general. He pretended to be "#1 Fan" just so he didn't have to fully betray Snake. Not to mention Metal Gear Solid, but he's practically overjoyed at the chance to die in front of Snake and for him to be his means of death, while sickening in context with the experimentations it's incredibly showing how much they mean to each other. Also his clear devotion to Gustava, He risks getting arrested or killed just to be with the woman he loved. Frank is a character that is immensely devoted to people, but it does tend to rule out to Big Boss being the most important it still says a lot. It is also something that ruins him in the process, he dies for Big Boss and he destroys the relationships he has outside of Big Boss, which is also why I think he's so attached to David as well but I'll save that for some other post.
These lines also show Frank's values towards morality and loyalty, before this he says along the line of "I am in an awkward position [unlike snake]" he is pretty much saying that he's in-between peace and Big Boss. These, combined with the dialouge after it, imply that Frank fully understands Snake's amnesty towards Big Boss. He does see that Big Boss is bad, and why people do not like him. This shows off his devotion can cloud his morality, he still fully believes in a what's right and what's wrong but that dependency on Big Boss stumps it.
Scooting away from his last words to talk about his second last moments in Metal Gear Solid.
Fox : Snake, we're not tools of the government or anyone else! Fighting was the only thing... the only thing I was good at, but... At least I always fought for what I believed in.
This is almost a clearcut show of his morale, he fought because he was desperate to cling to war but he never lost sight of his values. While his values aren't very expanded on in themselves, the fact he clings to them as much as he does, does stand out to me. A clear show of determination that's been muddied by violence. He sides with both FOXHOUND and Zanzibar in his own way, as he understands the good purpose of FOXHOUND but sees Big Boss in Zanzibar and ultimately that loyalty makes his morality hazy and destroys the relationship he had with FOXHOUND.
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Frank shows a very heartbreaking attitude towards war and also furthers the last point.
that he fully knows war is bad, Big Boss is not good, etc. I am always so glad when bad guys aren't written blind to the good in the world 🙌
Frank outright says he despises war, he shows this attitude a lot throughout his life. Even as a teen, he expressed his disgust at the death caused by war. He takes in a young Naomi to prevent the war from making an influx on her. He is incredibly caring to those suffering from battle filled places, yet due to the constant conditioning he has faced he's forced to constantly bring himself back into battlefield.
To Frank, war is an addiction. As a baby, he's in wartorn Vietnam kept in a camp, as a child he's in wartorn Africa trafficked as a soldier, and as a teenager he's in wartorn San Hieronymo memory wiped. When he is saved by Big Boss all these times, he ends up scooped back up into war anyway. When he's an adult and with Big Boss, he still chooses war. It's an incredibly saddening cycle that his character goes through.
However, to Frank, conflict and battle acts as a comfort to him. It's all that he knows and all he's grown up with that he cannot bring himself to separate from it.
When he's happy with Gustava, he still finds a way to break the law and accidentally ruin Gustava, still thinking like a soldier. I think this behavior also stems to Big Boss as well, Frank is happy with Big Boss, views him as his hero, but when describing him, he's just his CO that saved him a few times when there's so much more to their relationship. It makes me think Frank, as a soldier, already regards CO as an important role because he's stuck with thinking like a soldier that he can't see Big Boss past military ranking. Same with Solid Snake, Snake regards Frank as his best friend, while Frank always sticks to calling him Snake or rookie. It's always codenames or ranks for Frank.
Comparing himself to the children of Zanzibar also stuck out to me. While, Gray Fox is certainly not childish, he does have some child wonder and impulsivity that undoubtedly stem from the fact he'd never had a chance to grow up properly. He makes several impulsive decisions where he doesn't think about the consequences of what he does, this could also come from that same exact soldier mentality.
Also on the topic of the kids in Zanzibarland, the small dialogues they have about Big Boss is something that reminds me of how Gray Fox himself speaks about Big Boss, albeit he says it in a more jaded way but I feel that's really only because we see him as a teen and the Zanzibarland kids are like five.
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Into the suicidal behaviors of Frank. In his life, he's on autopilot for most of it and when he's not, he's hurting others or he's hurting himself. He shows a deeply depressive attitude in life.
Within Portable Ops, he says: "You help me fill the void inside" towards Big Boss, describing his own self as a void showed how he felt his life had no meaning, including the whole null motifs, literally calling himself nothing always stuck with me. His impulsive behavior also stands out. While his impulsivity probably comes from the instinct of a soldier, sometimes it comes across as just suicidal. Piloting and fighting with a metal gear when he's never done so in his life, trying to elope with a woman in an authoritarian Czechoslovakia, killing Gene's staff, etc etc. Some actions he takes could end up killing him, having him tortured and he doesn't care about consequences.
Scooting away again to mgs1..
Liquid says this: "Foolish man! He prayed for death and it found him." While Liquids words can't express Frank's feelings it is a generally accurate statement, throughout his life Frank finds death and destruction and it follows him everywhere. This leads him down his own path of wanting to die, not actively but a passive auto pilot thought of knowing one day he will die and hoping it's in battle. While not a typical suicidal thought, hoping for death in whatever way definitely counts.
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Onto more with his relationship with David, because it's always the moments when Frank is the realist. David is highly impressionable when he first meets Frank, probably one of his first few real friends after foster care and green berets. Frank himself regards their friendship highly. The last few words exchanged between them before they talk about Gustava: "I will never be like you" it always struck me and the way Frank just accepts that, he knows he's not a good role model anymore, not to anyone by how he talks about Naomi in MGS1.
David looked up to Frank, that much is evidenced by Kasler saying how everyone loved and looked up to Frank in FOXHOUND and how every opportunity he can Snake brings up Frank's advice. Metal Gear 2 shows the final crumbling of Frank, he's tries his hardest to have that moral compass, to be a sense of good to the war orphans he comes across, to his peers, and to his subordinates in FOXHOUND, but then in 1999 it fizzles away and he's fully accepted the fate laid out for him.
It's incredibly depressing but accurate. Frank is a veteran, he's fought enough wars and solemnly accepts his death. I think killing Gustava, and fighting Snake were turning points for him. Especially realizing Big Boss was most likely going to die in Zanzibar. He forces himself away from all parts of his life that made him whole so that he can accept death.
All in and all, Frank's last words in both Metal Gear 2 and Metal Gear Solid crack open a lot of depth into his character that so many people I've found ignore. The original Metal Gears tend to get overlooked but dive so deep into the characters that it's so shocking when so many fans haven't played or watched it. MG is the baseline for understanding Gray Fox and I find so many people boiling him down to himself in Metal Gear Solid when he's so impactful in Portable Ops, in Metal Gear 2, like please show Frank love because he will always be one of the most impactful characters to me
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shiftwux · 5 months
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youre an all-american boy i guess i couldnt help trying to be your best american girl
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sporkberries · 7 months
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Cheers to the new millennium! ( I really like the mg2 portraits so i drew them)
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I love you david muah💋💋
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solidsnakecake · 2 months
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Leon S. Kennedy (RE4) and Solid Snake (MG2) are the same.
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Both are sent to a foreign place to save an important political hostage (Ashley Graham and D. Kio Marv)
Both face a mentor/friend of past as an enemy (Krauser and Gray Fox, Big Boss)
Both friendzone a blonde lady (Ashley and Holly)
Both are aided by an immoral complex ally/enemy with whom they have history and sexual tension (Ada Wong and Gray Fox)
Both become friends with someone with common goals as them (Luis and Gustava). Both of these new friends die.
Both say some stupid shit.
Both face some silly over-the-top enemies.
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astraeaqutie · 10 months
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reeaaaally big mgs art dump hai yall
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hydrogenb0mb · 2 months
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quiet + gustava for @heavenzdivide & senshi for @w0rm-king
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dhampiric-vantasei · 4 months
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theres something about her eyes...
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thisiseditsandstuff · 1 month
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going insane about metal gear 2 again because they really could have gone so much harder with the whole 'does being a soldier make you unable to do anything else?' thing like sure, we got Fox as Snake's foil in the story but what about Gustava who was pulled into becoming a spy for her country as a punishment because all other jobs were suddenly unavailable to her because she tried to flee to the West, what about Holly who saw the horrors of war as a war journalist and wanted to do more to help people and the CIA just. got her thrown into the middle of this without ever seemingly handing her any proper training for this kind of mission. They briefly touch upon this (with Gustava. kind of) but never truly commit to it and I am gonna start chewing glass about it
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vantasei · 3 months
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everything i learn abt the mgs fandom disappoints me more actually. i gotta get out of here.
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ao3feed-adaleon · 21 days
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I'll Still be Bloody Mary
read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/ZDSKaUk by PrincessLink AU where Ada and Leon are Gray Fox and Gustava Heffner from Metal Gear 2. For Aeon Angst Week. Words: 2294, Chapters: 1/3, Language: English Fandoms: Biohazard | Resident Evil (Gameverse) Rating: Mature Warnings: Major Character Death Categories: F/M Characters: Leon S. Kennedy, Ada Wong, Jack Krauser Relationships: Leon S. Kennedy/Ada Wong, Leon S. Kennedy & Ada Wong Additional Tags: figure skating, the olympics, Aeon Angst Week, Horny Teenagers read it on AO3 at https://ift.tt/ZDSKaUk
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solidsnakeoil · 11 months
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A Favor For Fox by solidsnakeoil on AO3 Rating: Explicit Source: Metal Gear Relationship: Gray Fox/Solid Snake Tags: Gray Fox/Gustava Heffner, Unrequited Love, Military, Deepthroating, Blow Jobs, Quickies Words: 2,029
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usagirusoft · 3 years
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Recent Metal Gear Solid sketches from twitter
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sporkberries · 5 months
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Blue gustava for @vantasei
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solidsnakecake · 2 months
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I unironically feel strongly attached to the entire cast of Metal Gear 2. From Solid Snake, Gray Fox, Holly White and Big Boss to Miller, Kasler, Campbell, Gustava Heffner, Dr. Madnar, and the goofy minions of Zanzibar, Running Man included. And all the nameless children Snake speaks to. Even Dr. Marv who is a corpse for all of his screentime but gets a personality and impact through his invention.
This game is so important.
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astraeaqutie · 10 months
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FUCKK I FORGOT TO POST THIS TOO..
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arya-jaeger · 4 years
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Gustava Heffner
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