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That feeling when you temporarily turn into a ghost so you can be on the same temporal plain as your Ghost Girl Friend but then your Ghost GF is actually working for the Big Bad Guy because she thinks its the only way she can get to the otherside to be with her family (they all died, she accidentally burnt down their house) and she tricked you into becoming a ghost (temporarily) so the Big Bad Guy could control you and make you release him from his trap. He then sets out to end the world and almost kills your entire family but then Ghost GF has a change of heart and actually helps save you and your family (using the same thing that killed her family, this is her unfinished business and so she can now move on) and like you didn't even get to have your first kiss.
#ghostbusters#ghostbusters frozen empire#ghostbusters spoilers#ghostbusters frozen empire spoilers#phoebe spengler#melody ghostbusters frozen empire#man i really wanted more of them and more of what happened to melody
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“I’ll see you in the fabric of the universe.” Is such a gay way to say I love you. Like. Melody’s last words were basically I’ll wait for you to join me in the stars. LIKEEEEE
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Is it gay to temporarily remove your soul from your body to make out with be on the same dimensional plane as a ghost?
#Ghostbusters#Ghostbusters Frozen Empire#Ghostbusters Spoilers#Phoebe Spengler#McKenna Grace#Is it gay#Meme#Joke#But seriously why did Phoebe and Melody NOT make out?#I 100% thought they were going to kiss a few times#It def felt like they were into each other#They even had a meet cute for god's sake!#The chemistry between them was insane#Movie#Mine
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in the aftermath
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Sometimes your first gay breakup really is the end of the world
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Just saying if Ray slept with a ghost in the 1st GB and Egon slept with Ghost slime in the 2nd Ghostbusters Phoebe could have totally kissed Melody in Ghostbusters Frozen Empire
#ghostbusters frozen empire#ghostbusters frozen empire spoilers#ghostbusters spoilers#ghostbusters#ghostbusters ii#phoebe spengler#cowards#its tradition#at this point that someone hooks up with a ghost
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i know in my heart that phoebe punched walter peck in the face but i just wish it happened on screen. she deserves to deck him i decided
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So, the three main fandom takeaways from Frozen Empire are:
First crushes can literally be the end of the world.
Peck is still dickless.
Lars pretty.
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Okay but if a big icy demon lord wanted me to willingly separate my body from my consciousness for two minutes then sending a pretty ghost girl to convince me to do it would be a really effective way to go about it so
#I am a little obsessed with them atm#Phoebe and melody... Obsessed#my lord#I wasn't at all expecting this plot. But it's here and I am now obsessed#I was so fucking happy seeing it happen while I was watching it omg#ghostbusters#ghostbusters frozen empire#phoebe spengler#cass thinks ab stuff#Ghostbusters spoilers
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Ghostbusters Frozen Empire spoilers ahead
I've seen some criticism over Phoebe's actions in Frozen Empire, more specifically over the point when she separates her spirit from her body, calling it "a dumb decision", that "she's smarter than that", that it's "out of character for her", and just like.
First of all, remember she's 15??? She's a teenager??
But also I want to argue that it does make sense for her character, especially after everything that happened in Frozen Empire leading up to that moment.
Before we talk about Frozen Empire, we have to remember her story arc from Afterlife.
In Afterlife, Phoebe is uprooted from where they were previously living, and we know she has trouble making friends. Trevor tells her to tell him some of the jokes she's been practicing, her mom tells her to "not be herself" (jokingly/affectionately, but it's still said), and we know that Phoebe struggles to make friends. She struggles to connect with people.
Then she finds out her grandfather was a scientist, like her. He was a Ghostbuster, something that she connects to. She compares herself to Egon and is upset when she finds out her mom didn't tell her that her grandfather was a scientist like her. Then, most importantly here, her mom says that Phoebe "found herself" at the farm.
During Afterlife, Phoebe's story is about finding herself and connecting to who her grandfather was, a scientist, a Ghostbuster.
Flashforward to Frozen Empire.
Now they're in New York, and from what we see even though it's been 3 years since the events of Afterlife, it doesn't seem like Phoebe has really made any new friends in New York, she's still friends with Podcast, but he still lives in Summerville and is only there for the summer. She has her family, but she doesn't have any friends there. Her focus seems to be on being a Ghostbuster because that's where she found herself, that's what she wants to do.
And then it's being taken away from her.
She's suddenly told that she can't be a Ghostbuster because she's too young, and all the while the rest of her family is continuing to go out on busts and leaving her behind. There's things going on, and she's told she can't help, which just throws the fact that the thing she loves, the thing she wants to do, has been taken away from her.
And then, while upset from this, she makes a friend, Melody. It's someone she can talk to, that she seems to enjoy being around. She doesn't know that Melody has an agenda, that Melody is going to use her (not hating on Melody, that's just literally what happens). To her, Melody is a friend and someone she can talk to that distracts her from how another part of her life has been taken away.
Now I don't know if anything has been confirmed, but Phoebe comes off as neurodivergent (honestly I would not be surprised if she was intentionally written that way). One thing when you're neurodivergent and struggle to make friends is like, when someone acts like they want to be around you, to be your friend, you might not catch any signs that something's up.
So with that in mind, remember that Phoebe had no reason to suspect anything was going on with Melody. Before separating her soul from her body, Phoebe just thought she was finding a way to exist on the same plane as her friend. It was a way to just be with her friend for just a couple of minutes. Remember, it was just for two minutes.
So, during a time when Phoebe had something important to her taken away, a part of her identity taken away, she made a connection with someone she trusted and believed to be her friend. Of course she'd trust her, of course she'd try to essentially hang out with her friend for just a couple minutes.
She didn't know what was going to happen next.
#Ghostbusters#Ghostbusters Afterlife#Ghostbusters Frozen Empire#Ghostbusters Melody#Phoebe Spengler#Ghostbusters spoilers#Sorry if this got rambly#It's just something I've been thinking about a lot#Because seriously#Shes just a kid that had something important to her taken away from her#So she was Going Through It#And then she made a friend she trusted and wanted to hang out with#How is using science to hang out with her ghost friend out of character for her???#“Ghost friend” I say as if there wasn't Something going on between those two lol#Fellas is it gay to tear your soul out of your body just to exist on the same plane of existence as your friend?
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I’m sorry but her face after she turned herself into a ghost screams “I’m going to kiss you”
#phoebe spengler#ghostbusters frozen empire#Melody the ghost#ghostbusters spoilers#ghostbusters#they are lesbians your honor
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Who wants an AU where Phoebe is trying to cling onto the memory of Melody but can’t because when she took her soul out of her body she quite literally lost a piece of herself??
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Frozen empire was really good, love it being a bit more character centric. Love that again, like afterlife it keeps essential elements like the music, the logo font etc
⚠️ spoilers
Some particulars -
Ghostbusters extended lore. This franchise is for the lore and legend fans fr. Everyone’s a magic nerd and I love that but particularly the ghost research facility.
GHOSTBUSTERS LORE- specifically how they implemented old merch of the franchise and toys as stuff IN UNIVERSE. (Is the cartoon a canon cartoon just like how the movie is a movie in the cartoon?)
Opening with the Robert frost poem. Iconic.
The possessor in his little cell is so cute actually. Little guys got enrichment in his enclosure!
Lucky is iconic actually. Her comments about the grandma’s apartment absolutely kill me
Trevor.
Callie and Gary too. Their dynamic
Gary’s semi poetry reading of the ghostbusters theme song lyrics (sobbed. Similar to the reading of purple people eater in NOPE)
Phoebe basically (briefly) ending herself to try and kiss a ghost girl
Firebender vape
Peck- but specifically at the end where someone in the crowd shouts “HEY DICKLESS” or something along the lines of
Their implementation of new charecters. They did not feel forced in and didn’t overstay their welcome but also all got a little of their own development. (Would’ve liked more of Lars though)
Same with the use of legacy characters. (Winston and Janine my beloveds)
Extended time in Ray’s shop. Please let me loose in there I’ll be so normal.
#ghostbusters spoilers#ghostbusters frozen empire#ghostbusters#ghostbusters fandom#ghostbusters 1984#ghostbusters afterlife#the real ghostbusters#lore#ghost hunting#Walter peck#trevor spengler#callie spengler#gary grooberson#lucky domingo#ray stantz#winston zeddemore#janine melnitz
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Melody had Ghostbusters called so that Phoebe'd show up for their date at the diner. I cannot believe.
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Egon in the afterlife at Peck in Frozen Empire: I'll GET YOU AND I'LL MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AN ACCIDENT
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Just saw Ghostbusters: Frozen Empire! (spoilers below)
Okay so Phoebe was gay, right? Like that's what that was... Right? Phoebe and Melody were definitely into each other.
Cause if so then we finally have a worthy equivalent of the live action Casper movie for lesbians!!
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