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kseniayahz · 1 month
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miss fraser 🤲💍
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bisexualdawnsummers · 9 months
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Benton Fraser & Ray Vecchio + Closets
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gayvecchio · 5 months
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You said that you don't have to choose a Ray in Due South, because both Rays are wonderful for different reasons. Can you talk about those reasons? I love RayV, but I've had a hard time liking Kowalski. There's something about his personality that irritates me.
Sure! 
Remember, that all of this is my opinion, and one that has been shaped and polished by 20 years of fanfic. This is also long, hence it’s under the cut :D
I wanna begin by saying that I loved Ray V first. When I started watching Due South (because I read a .rtf fic names XDS - a crossover between X-Files, Due South, and Star Wars that I came to though Star Wars and read because I knew X-Files and figured I could learn enough about Due South to make it work), the show was playing on TNT in the afternoons, and may have actually been *before* Ray Kowalski made an appearance. 
I watched the first two seasons, I started reading Due South fic alongside Star Wars fic. I discovered Slash, and read a few Ray V/Fraser stories with my Luke/Wedge and Luke/Biggs fic, but at the time I was mostly reading Fraser/Frannie or Fraser/Thatcher. 
I didn’t dislike Fraser/Ray V, but I was young -- young enough that I worried about my parents finding the one slash fic that I dared print out (my dad had the internet, my mom didn’t. So, I’d print out stories on the weekend and read them over the week). 
Then I found out about Ray K and I stopped watching Due South. I was pissed! You can’t just replace one half of the duo! It doesn’t work like that! But, eventually, I came back. I missed Fraser, and figured I’d give Ray K a shot - and I loved him. They knew not to make him try and fill the same niche - and, when they finally met, the clash between them was perfectly done to highlight the different roles they filled. I dived headfirst into Fraser/Ray K fic (partially because I was older and had lost my hesitation around slash fic, and partially because my mom had finally gotten the internet). 
And that, I think, is the crux of the issue. Ray V and Ray K offer Fraser a different relationship because they’re different people and satisfy different needs - thus telling a different story. 
Let’s begin with Ray V. 
When you look at the beginning of the series, Fraser, like the protagonist of any fantasy story, is orphaned (literally, the first scene is Bob Fraser’s death) and alone- he’s the odd duck, the isolated character to facilitate his travel. it’s hard to go off and be a hero when you have responsibilities at home (hence why in Star Wars Luke doesn’t leave Tatooine until Owen and Beru are killed, or why Harry Potter is hated by the Dursleys). With no siblings (yet), and his mother and grandparents dead before the series, Fraser has no family. 
The driving force of the series is thus born, Fraser is looking for the killers of his father - the last of his family (even if he was a terrible father). The family relationships in the show are all very important, and are highlighted in different ways, thus giving us the theme of the Ray V seasons - the importance of family. 
Because, Ray V is *lousy* with family in a way that most Italian-American families are - you don’t always like your family, but you *all* gather for dinner when Ma makes her Sunday Gravy. And, in the *pilot* when he’s known this crazy mountie for less than 12 hours, he invites Ben HOME to his FAMILY for FOOD. (Ben is clearly uncomfortable, and it’s played for comedy, but it’s also heartbreaking. Ben is not used to effusive emotion --or any emotion-- and he is certainly not used to so many people acting like such a family.) Ray, in a sense, adopts Fraser. 
Now, you can say that taking Fraser home could be a “meeting the family” moment, like bringing home a new girlfriend. Ray is defensive of Fraser’s honor when Frannie hits on him, after all. 
But, there’s something about it that smacks more of *family* to me - he brought Ben home to be his *brother* and give Ben the surrogate family he has missed. (hence why Frannie throws herself at him - and also why Fraser keeps turning her down. Textually it’s because she’s his best friend’s sister, but thematically, she’s his new sister as well) 
Further, Ray V doesn’t react with jealousy when Victoria blows into down on her ill wind - he’s proud, and supportive, and then defensive when he realizes how terrible she is for Ben. 
I mean, yeah, Mrs. Fraser does dance with Ray V, but it’s because Ray V is the “safe” option. Now, if you want to say that’s because Ray V and Fraser are lovers? I can see why! It was certainly important in the few fics I have read, and I see it.
I think, ultimately, Ray V as Fraser’s New Family was the intent of the writers, and the writing on this show is *tight*. It makes sense that, with a plot focused on finding what ended your old family, you find new family. 
But then came the brief hiatus, Paul Gross taking over more creative control, and Collum Keith Rennie. PG said in an interview that they’d taking Ray K in a new direction, “very homoerotic, the fans will love it”
And...they did. Ray V’s telephone call - the ache in his voice because he knows that he’s not gonna be able to say goodbye (like Bob) is palpable, and feels almost like a breakup, signaling a shift in tone. This is no longer a show about the search for family - Ben found his family. Even with Ray V off screen, there’s no doubt that Fraser is a Vecchio -- but about finding a *parter* 
There’s red ships and green ships but no ships like partnerships. 
This half of the show gives us not only this line, but highlights the relationship between Buck and Bob (that was began in Ray V’s season), and focuses more than ever on pairing Fraser off (with more female love interests than Victoria, even though none of them pan out) and on Ray K’s divorce. 
Textually, they are two bachelors lonely for love. Thematically, the focus is on romantic parings, not brotherhood. 
“A partnership is like a marriage, son” 
Ray K comes in, and he doesn’t try to be Fraser’s brother. Fraser has a brother, and wouldn’t welcome Ray K to try and fill Ray V’s shoes. They spend an entire episode showing all the way Ray K would never wear Ray V’s shoes (and not just because Ray K wears boots like Steve McQueen and Ray V wears Italian Leather), and also showing us that Ray K *is there for Fraser anyway*, symbolically taking a bullet the way Ray V did. 
(We also see Ray K fall hard for Fraser’s sister in a way that’s dropped, showing the audience, thematically and sub-textually, what they can’t textually because of the censors)
This new Ray, he’s sharp, he’s prickly, he’s “d-u-m, dumb” the way Vecchio was slick, as a way to disarm and play off of the straight forward image of Fraser’s serge. He’s a paradox - a crack shot who wears glasses, a vulnerable tough guy, a romantic punk. He gets under Fraser’s skin in such a way that Fraser begins to relax around him as well. I admit, I have an existing fondness for the tough-guy-with-a-heart-of-gold, and Ray K is that to a T. He’s not perfect (stalking his X, hello), but he tries to be better, and that I appreciate. It makes him a dynamic character. He has a temper, but he flashes quickly and then cools - it’s a good foil to Fraser’s simmering anger. 
Remember, Fraser told Ray V about Victoria, and Ray V was sleeping. 
Fraser tells Ray K about Gerrard. and Muldoon. and Bob. 
Ray K tells Fraser about Stella. and the Bank. and Beth Botrelle. 
The audience gets more of Fraser underneath his serge as a result of his relationship with Ray K - who is, himself, an “orphan” (estranged and living at a distance, his closest “family” is his ex-wife) can connect with Fraser on that level because he gets it in a way that Ray V, who has never not had his family, can’t fully. 
All of this comes to a head in the finale, when the Rays meet, and we see them clash - this is the “bringing the boyfriend home” moment. Ray K, the “boyfriend” meets Ray V, the “brother”, and the Brother wants to know if the boyfriend is good enough. They tense, and then they both go after Fraser because Fraser draws people in his wake like he walked through a line of streamers. 
They go north, and Ray K steps up as Fraser’s parter, taking an interest in the North in a way that Ray V never did (Ray K goes on the quest, Ray V tried to install modern plumbing). An that quest? The closest to “ride off together into the sunset” that I’ve seen outside of Disney. 
Ultimately, Ray V sees Fraser like his family: He doesn’t need to understand him, because he loves him and that’s what families do. 
Ray K sees Fraser like his spouse: What he doesn’t already understand, he tries to because it’s important to Fraser to be understood. 
Both are amazing partners for Fraser to have. Both fill different niches. Both are telling different stories. 
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kseniayahz · 5 days
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kseniayahz · 26 days
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just watched the first two seasons of due south and already miss this duo
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bisexualdawnsummers · 8 months
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Benton Fraser and Ray Vecchio in due South 2.18 "Flashback"
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gayvecchio · 2 months
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Short, one-shots under 5k
Stained by Jenn
mornings most of all by ifreet
were no crime by sionnain
Four A.M. in Chicago by mireille
Somewhere Else by Azar
Our Dancing Days by sdwolfpup
On Golden Pond by Belle_Evans
You're just my type by deathbyOTPin123
Repeat by SLWalker
Untitled by Jenn
On a map the gap's three fingers by belmanoir
Medium length, 5k-10k
Acharnement by pqlaertes
Reconstruction by brynnmck
Ray Vecchio, Sixty-Four, in Canada in the Summertime by Scribe
Long, Slow Drift by belmanoir
Red Ruse by Cherilyn (Ankh)
Heart Held Out Like A Tin Cup  by brynnmck, sdwolfpup
This Error by Laura Shapiro (laurashapiro), Pares (kormantic)
No Son of His by m. fae glasgow
Come In From the Cold by Nos4a2no9
Longer stories, 10k+
Disposable Teens (teachers au) by Jenn
Cold Heart (Twin Peaks Crossover, ft. Fraser/Cooper) by Dorthy Marley
Through the Night, Behind the Wheel, the Mileage Clicking West by neverfaraway
I Miss You, etc. by portlandwithyou
Bye Bye, Bookman by Muriel_Perun
Long Way Home by Justine Bennett, Morgan Dawn
Double or Nothing by brynnmck
The Diner by rose_malmaison
Power Out by NewEyes
The Poker Night Series (four stories in total) by Ruth_Devero
Shooting Star by Lazuli_Kat
Burn this Town to the Ground by vailkagami
Prodigal Mountie by amaruuk
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gayvecchio · 7 months
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Ray Vecchio & Benton Fraser in "due South: The Pilot"
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gayvecchio · 8 months
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gayvecchio · 9 months
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gayvecchio · 8 months
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gayvecchio · 9 months
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Does anyone happen to have some good Fraser/RayV fic recs?
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I'm so glad I finally got around to watching this silly 90s gay Canadian TV show
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gayvecchio · 7 months
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Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: due South Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Relationships: Benton Fraser/Ray Vecchio Characters: Ray Vecchio, Benton Fraser Additional Tags: Sexuality Crisis, Internalized Homophobia, Romance, Mild Hurt/Comfort, No Beta We Die Like Louis Gardino, Angst with a Happy Ending Summary:
Despite the heat, Ray had felt a shiver run down his spine and settle in his bones; a persistent chill that he just couldn't shake.
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