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blockgamepirate · 1 year

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So there’s another one of those cool Hermitcraft trivia posts circulating again which I kinda wanna reblog but also I’m feeling a little bit hesitant because some of the points seem maybe a little bit inaccurate or exaggerated? Like I’d like to fact check them first at least.

(Particularly what stuck out to me was the point about season two only happening because Joe did a coup, because that’s not how I understood that story the way Joe and Xisuma have told it? Or at least as far as I can remember... the impression I had was that Xisuma was mainly the person who took the initiative to keep the server going but Joe was one who broke the gridlock on whether or not they should add new members by just straight up inviting Cleo without asking the others.)

(So maybe a more accurate way to phrase it is that without Xisuma season 2 wouldn’t have happened, but without Joe, season 2 might not have had any new members. And at this point the only still currently active Hermits who were already on the server were X, Hypno and Joe, so the lineup could have turned out very differently, if the server had even survived past season 2.)

(I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure this is how I remember hearing it?)

But what actually annoyed me was this comment from someone (not OP, to be clear) in the notes:

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#these people have been around for so long #compared to dsmp where its like new white guy who popped up in 2021 fully formed LMAO

(Don’t go looking for this please, and don’t harass this person, I’m just highlighting this because it’s an example of an attitude you see a lot. It’s not just this specific person who I don’t know at all and whose url I already forgot.)

I don’t wanna start counting diversity points on each server like it’s a fucking game, but I DO wanna point out that the “white guy“ comment is pretty rich coming from a Hermitcraft fan.

Both servers have a white guy problem.

But at least with Dream SMP I can actually think of more than one creator who isn’t white, and it didn’t take them until season 2 to add a second female member...

(I know Hermitcraft is more of a private and closed group and they have extremely strict qualifications they demand from new members, plus every current member has veto power, so it’s much harder to add new Hermits than it is to add new DSMP members where it’s all decided by One Guy, but I think some frustration about this is still justified due to how big Hermitcraft is in the MCYT community.)

It’s also extremely annoying when apparently there was a whole thing where Hermit fans were insisting that Quackity is white during the sexyman polls?? Presumably just to excuse their shitty behaviour??? idek. (And I also heard on the other hand that there were some straight up racist comments made about Quackity as well. He literally cannot win, apparently.)

What is this weird attitude towards new creators?? Yes, it’s cool that Hermitcraft has been around for over a decade and that the Hermits have all these cool histories in the community and even influenced the development of the game itself, but you can celebrate that without needing to put down new people, ffs.

I know it’s annoying when the new guys suddenly get more popular than your guys, but it happens, it’s the circle of YouTube. Please chill out. No need to be a hipster about it.

Besides, even if we don’t count people like Vikkstar who admittedly didn’t play on DSMP all that much, there were still people on the server who had long histories in the MCYT community:

Phil has been making Minecraft videos at least since 2012, when he started his first Hardcore Series, and holds the record for the longest running hardcore world to date. There’s a splash text in Minecraft referencing him (”Ph1lzA had a good run!”)

Techno started his channel in 2013 and was part of the Hypixel player council (or was it called the Elite Team back then? Not sure) since he was like 14 or 15, helping with testing and game design on many of the iconic Hypixel games before the server became the biggest Minecraft server in the world. He too has a splash text in the game (”Technoblade never dies!”)

BadBoyHalo has his own PVP server called MunchyMC which was launched in 2015 and before that he was part of the staff on a different PVP server.

Also while more recent, a whole bunch of DSMP members were also on SMP Live and SMP Earth back in 2019. In fact 2019 was when a lot of the DSMP members originally got their initial boost into popularity.

Honestly the only DSMP members who fit the description of “new white guy who popped up in 2021“ are like... probably Foolish and BoomerNA??

I think you probably meant 2020 anyway, because that’s when Dream, George, Sapnap, Tommy, Tubbo and Ranboo became popular. I assume so anyway because those are usually the white guys people actually seem to be talking about when they talk about DSMP white guys. (Obligatory note that Ranboo is in fact nonbinary though.)

tl;dr:

You can just hype up the Hermits and just not say anything about DSMP. That’s an option. Especially if you clearly don’t know that much about DSMP.

#rant #discourse #does it count as vagueblogging when you're being this specific?#idk

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thebreakfastgenie · 1 year

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I mean, you made a blanket statement about how men are misogynistic because they contribute passively to patriarchy, and yet you have such a problem with people pointing out that TERF ideology contains a lot of misogyny? I don't want to be like "not all men" on your post, but given that you're going to such lengths to defend TERFs, not to mention excluding men (even GNC men? gay men? trans men? pre-out trans women?) from feminism, and your vagueblogging about SWERF stuff... I see that stuff and I remember when you admitted that you almost got radicalised as a TERF, and I genuinely kind of wonder if you've ever stopped since then and looked at some of your views and critiqued whether they still come from a TERF place?

Men passively contribute to misogyny because they benefit from patriarchy, yes, because that is how structures of oppression work. I mean, come on now. I specifically said gay, trans, queer, and GNC men are also personally harmed by patriarchy even while passively benefiting from it because reality is complicated. Closeted trans women are women who are perceived by society as men but they count in this category.

I’m not really sure where I defended TERFs, considering I (a cis woman) said their ideology was regardless of whether it harmed cis women because it does harm trans people, mentioned that many of them gladly ally with right wing men, compared them to Republicans, indirectly called them stupid for working against their own interests as women, and made fun of them for hating each other.

I am cautious about excluding them from feminism because of the No True Scotsman fallacy. I think it’s possible to support and work for the liberation of women while being harmful in other ways, and in their own minds that’s what they’re doing (they define women as cis women).

I think it’s possible for transphobic feminists to help cis women. Plenty of people help one marginalized group while hurting another. I’ve witnessed right wing Republicans help people on a personal level. I’m not defending or complimenting them by pointing that out. They still don’t deserve our support. The world isn’t black and white. People are good or bad in an uncomplicated way.

I wasn’t vagueposting about SWERF really, it was more a note to myself for later. I have complicated thoughts about the term and the specific framing of if it as a parallel to TERF and the tl;dr is trans is an identity and sex work is work and I don’t necessarily like treating them as like… equal attributes of people. TERF (original definition) serves a clear purpose; it’s not clear to me that SWERF does.

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