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I just picked up an old paperback copy of a Vietnam War book called SEALs: UDT/SEAL Operations in Vietnam by Tim Bosiljevac. The book chronicles the early history of the Sea, Air and Land Teams, from their founding under President Kennedy through the end of the Vietnam War. The SEALs were created to be the Navy’s superhuman version of the Green Berets: “a naval guerrilla/counterguerrilla [force] with an emphasis on direct action raids and missions on targets in close proximity to bodies of water.” I love that line, “in close proximity to bodies of water.” That could mean a puddle…or hell, when you consider that human beings are about 70% water–“bodies of water” could mean just about anything.
There are a lot of great Vietnam War books out there, mostly memoirs, as Dr. Dolan explained:
Virtually anyone who saw combat and has a decent memory can write a decent book about it — and Vietnam, a war characterized by thousands of small skirmishes, was richer in incident and gore than an inner-city basketball tournament. When next you hear that rough voice asking, “War — what is it good for?”, you tell it: “First-person memoirs, that’s what!”
…This high literary output was a delayed gift of the utter lack of strategy which doomed the American enterprise in Vietnam: a war which consisted largely of sending small contingents of infantry out into the jungle to find the enemy, usually by getting ambushed, is bound to be a military disaster — but equally bound to produce an extraordinary number of fantastic combat tales.
Unfortunately SEALs lacks this first-person immediacy–it’s a third-person history, Bosiljevic’s Navy College master’s thesis turned into a book, and unfortunately it sometimes reads like a thesis.
Still, this is Nam, Dude–and we’re talking about the SEALs here. That means page after page of ambushes and skirmishes, some of which make for some pretty amazing reading, even in the third dry person.
One such ambush stuck out–one of those rarely reported, long-rumored showdowns between our guys and the hated, invisible “Russian advisors” who were never officially supposed to be there in South Vietnam.
ou kids out there who were born too late to remember the Cold War grudges probably won’t grasp the profound satisfaction that a scene like this offers your average armchair Cold Warrior. See, one thing our side could never get over was griping about how the Soviets were somehow cheating. This scene is the sort of “This is what happens when the SEALs catch you cheating” fantasy that all the armchair Cold Warriors dreamed about. It takes place in 1967–a big year for the SEALs in ‘Nam–in a province in the southwest corner of South Vietnam. Meaning, Russian advisors were operating in our own backyard, the bastuds!:
One particular SEAL ambush in 1967 in Kien Giang Province provided a surprise to a frogman force. The SEALs had been watching a reported supply route used by enemy forces on a remote canal. Late in the afternoon of the second day of their surveillance, a VC sampan floated into the kill zone. Besides the two indigenous guerrillas onboard, a tall, heavy Caucasian with a beard rode in the bow. He was dressed in what looked like a khaki uniform and was holding a communist assault rifle. Just as the craft pulled into the area, the communists became leery, as if sensing the danger nearby. Although initially startled at seeing the white man, the SEALs immediately let the law of the barroom prevail–when a fight is unavoidable, strike first, and strike hard. The frogmen unleashed a hail of fire into the enemy force. The Caucasian was hit in the chest in the initial burst of fire and went overboard. The VC attempted to jump in and assist him. Just then, a superior Vietcong force appeared and counterattacked. Outnumbered and outgunned, the SEALs fought a running gun battle to an area where they could extract. Later, they were debriefed about the incident by an intelligence officer. They were told to remain silent about the action. South Vietnamese intelligence had reported that the white man had been a Russian. It would remain a little-known fact that the guerrillas and North Vietnamese were assisted in their Third World brushfire war by a host of foreign advisers and technicians, including Soviets, Chinese, Eastern Bloc, Cuban, Korean, and other communist nationals.
There’s a serious ethical contradiction that seems lost on the author here, a contradiction that’s built into our DNA: On the one hand, the SEALs (very wisely) attack and kill without warning on the barroom theory about striking first and striking hard. Which makes sense, but goes against the suburban middle-class rules of fighting. Real middle-class American bar fights go something like this: a lot of shouting, a lot of loud long well-telegraphed empty threats, even formal declarations marking the combatant’s geographical location (“I’m here! I’m here, mutherfucker!”), dramatic tearing off of one’s shirt, verbal commands expressed in the Imperative Mood (“Come on! Come on, mutherfucker!”)… All that pre-game shouting in American bar-fights establishes the combatant’s sense of “fair play” that suburbanites tend to vastly overrate. It’s as though everyone’s worrying about what the post-game highlights will look like, what they’ll say after  the fight–about securing your place in history, or in the homecoming king vote. I dunno. I remember in Moscow in the mid-90s watching a Russian and an American go at it, and there couldn’t have been a bigger fight-culture clash: The American, some ripped red-head, went through the whole tearing his shirt off schtick, screaming and yelling about his geographical location, calling his Russian opponent all sorts of names implying that the Russian was a cheater whereas he wasn’t…It seemed ridiculous to everyone watching, especially the Russian guy, who tagged the redhead a few more times, messing up his Tony Award-winning act.
American Cold Warriors, armchair and otherwise, always carried around this grudge about the “rules” and about how Americans are just too damn decent for this corrupt awful world. And at the top of the grievance list was the fact that Russian advisors operated with the Vietnamese. Somehow, that just…wasn’t fair. Those damn Russkies–always cheating!
For anyone interested, I found a Russian site set up by Russian veterans of the Vietnam War, which features plenty of old war photos, as well as articles and short memoirs from the Russians who served. (Click here.)
About a decade ago, I was in Vietnam with a bunch of Russian friends from my old Moscow newspaper The eXile. One day, I peeled off from the group and took a tour of the Cu Chi Tunnels, the setting for one of the best of all the Vietnam War books. None of the Russians gave a shit about Cu Chi and all the stories I forced them to listen to out on the beaches–they found anything military boring, they’d heard too many war stories already from the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, stories that were hard to top.
So off I went on an official Cu Chi Tunnels tour. There were 10 of us in my group, all but two Americans, including a retired couple from Texas: the wife was nervous, thin, harried; the husband one of those squat military retirees who infest the American southwest, tight shirt, large gut hanging over his belt, big fat forearms and fingers. Almost as soon as our tour started, the husband let us know that he was a Vietnam War veteran. He was a real loud-mouthed asshole–it was as though he’d practiced for this moment ever since Saigon fell. He did everything imaginable that day to reignite the Vietnam War. But our guide, a respectful young Vietnamese man, kept calm, letting the sore old loser blow off his steam. It added another layer of tension and entertainment to the whole Cu Chi Tunnels tour. Actually, just  walking around the cheap victory museum dedicated to my own country’s defeat made me feel like some neutered German tourist–isn’t that what post-war German tourists do, respectfully visit monuments to their defeat?
But the real action was the toothless rematch going on right here in Cu Chi: Old Veteran Guy  versus Young Wiry Vietnamese Guide. It went something like this: Our guide would show us some half-cheesy, half-horrifying commie exhibit on, say, Agent Orange, and our guide would say something like, “Agent Orange cause many death, many deformity for Vietnamese children, American government not recognize effects of illegal chemical war, refuse to pay reparations”…and the Texan would snarl, “Nope! Nope, nope, nope! Not true! No evidence! It’s all a crock, people, I know all about this, I was there. Agent Orange never hurt anyone–they’re just trying to get money from our government, that’s all.”
Or our guide would proudly relate how underdog Vietnamese, wearing shoes made out of torn tire treads, managed to defeat and outlast the mighty American imperial army. To which the veteran would bark, “Not true! You had the Russians backing you the whole time. You had an endless supply line of Russian weapons, Russian advisors, Russian and Chinese material. Don’t whitewash this little propaganda tour of yours, I know what happened! You cheated–you had all the help in the world!”
Or our guide would show us some of the clever ways that the Viet Cong concealed the entrances to their tunnels, and how they fooled the Americans with their earthy ingenuity; our veteran from Texas would literally walk over and stand between us and our skinny Vietnamese guide, and shout, “We could have pumped in poison gas into the tunnels, and it’d’ve all been over. I asked for poison gas, other commanders asked for poison gas too, believe me. The problem was that our side played fair–we were signatories to the Geneva Conventions. The jerks in Washington cared more about the Geneva Conventions than they cared about winning this war.”
The Americans winced and cowered. But our guide didn’t seem bothered–he seemed more worried that we would be dissatisfied tour customers. I realize now, his main goal was to make sure that the old veteran didn’t lodge a complaint.
“Our hands were tied because we couldn’t use poison gas–and let me tell you, if we were allowed to use chemical weapons or poison gas on those tunnels, we’d’ve saved a lot of lives, something the do-gooders in Washington couldn’t understand. So what could we do? We used fire hoses to pump in river water into the tunnel entrances that we found. That, or tear gas. But that was a waste of time. If we could have used poison gas on the communists in these tunnels here, it would have saved a lot of lives. A lot of lives.”
That was stunning–even this jerk had to couch his little fascist plans under the guise of “saving lives.” It crossed the line from asshole Ugly American to something almost downright impressive.
I kept waiting for our Vietnamese guide to blow a fuse or shout the old Texan down, or rip the vet’s cholesterol-hardened heart out with some Bruce Lee move and chomp it down while it was still beating, Jim Carrey-style. But our guide seemed genuinely empathetic, and genuinely worried that the tour would end badly. Maybe the guide had seen a lot of these types on his tour. Whatever the case, comparing the old loud-mouthed vet with this zen Vietnamese guide, you could see, in some small way, why and how we lost that war.
At the end of the tour, ol’ Texas veteran softened up, shook our guide’s hand, and congratulated him and the Vietnamese on their victory–a victory which, he now magnanimously conceded, they’d earned.
It was like witnessing the “25-years-later” scene of what happened to the Robert Duvall character decades after he wistfully declared, “Some day, this war’s gonna end…” Which is to say, there’s a reason why Coppola never filmed the 25-years-later scene.
- Mark Ames, “PHANTOM MILITARY ADVISORS AND “FAIR” FIGHTING.” The eXiled Online. June 21, 2011.
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Hiring hoodlums to be soldiers and providing absolute minimum training to anyone sent to a war zone are very desperate measures. I think we all can agree on this. But, when in history have desperate measures in wartime ever helped? I can’t think of any. Furthermore, as the ISW says, using these scumbag convicts and greenhorns makes it easier for Ukrainian partisans to carry out their strikes. Certainly, the interests of the convicts will lie elsewhere besides the job at hand, like in stealing, raping and other criminal activities. The civilian population will hate mafia land even more, being pushed around by such thugs. The cockroaches are once again hurting themselves with such badly thought out measures. But, does it matter? Such things only help Ukraine.
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Israel's Long War with Hezbollah: Military Innovation and Adaptation Under Fire by Raphael D. Marcus
Israel’s Long War with Hezbollah: Military Innovation and Adaptation Under Fire by Raphael D. Marcus
The ongoing conflict between Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah is now in its fourth decade and shows no signs of ending. Raphael D. Marcus examines this conflict since the formation of Hezbollah during Israel’s occupation of Lebanon in the early 1980s. He critically evaluates events including Israel’s long counterguerrilla campaign throughout the 1990s, the Israeli withdrawal in…
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The ongoing conflict between Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah is now in its fourth decade and shows no signs of ending. Raphael D. Marcus examines this conflict since the formation of Hezbollah during Israel's occupation of Lebanon in the early 1980s. He critically evaluates events including Israel's long counterguerrilla campaign throughout the 1990s, the Israeli withdrawal in 2000, the 2006 summer war, and concludes with an assessment of current tensions on the border between Israel and Lebanon related to the Syrian civil war. Israel's Long War with Hezbollah is both the first complete military history of this decades-long conflict and an analysis of military innovation and adaptation. The book is based on unique fieldwork in Israel and Lebanon, extensive research into Hebrew and Arabic primary sources, and dozens of interviews Marcus conducted with Israeli defense officials, high-ranking military officers of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), United Nations personnel, a Hezbollah official, and Western diplomats. As an expert on organizational learning, Marcus analyzes ongoing processes of strategic and operational innovation and adaptation by both the IDF and Hezbollah throughout the long guerrilla conflict. His conclusions illuminate the dynamics of the ongoing conflict and illustrate the complexity of military adaptation under fire. With Hezbollah playing an ongoing role in the civil war in Syria and the simmering hostilities on the Israel-Lebanon border, students, scholars, diplomats, and military practitioners with an interest in Middle Eastern security issues, Israeli military history, and military innovation and adaptation can ill afford to neglect this book.
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Why Russia's Massive Zapad Navy Sporting events Scare the arena
A Military exercise with origins within the former Soviet Union is now exacerbating tensions with NATO, especially the ones individuals dealing with the Baltic Sea. Carried out 4 years ago, Zapad (“West”) 2013 turned into deeply illustrative now not most effective of Russia’s strategic dreams, but of how it planned to fight destiny wars, in particular, the annexation of Crimea. The biennial workout is scheduled once more for this year, prompting the Baltic countries to invite NATO and the USA for expanded Army assistance.
The Zapad ’eighty-one Military Sports were the largest ever held with the aid of the Soviet Union. Strategic/operational in scope, Zapad 1981 was held over a length of 8 days and worried among one hundred,000 and one hundred fifty,000 Soviet and other Warsaw P.C. Military employees. The Sports examined more than a few of latest weapons structures, which includes the SS-20 intermediate-variety ballistic missile (later banned via the INF Treaty). Planners anticipated a scheming NATO making ready to invade the Warsaw P.C., but preparations by means of Brussels had been detected and effectively countered by way of Moscow. The exercise also saw a counterattack into Germany and a preemptive use of tactical nuclear weapons in opposition to the “Western forces,” which resulted in the lack of a quarter million NATO employees. Zapad ’81 become wonderful for introducing new ideas to offset new developments within NATO, specifically technological advances inclusive of the Abrams and Leopard II tanks. One particular idea, the Operational Maneuver Group, sought to inject a robust armored pressure deep in the back of NATO’s front line to sever deliver traces and break tactical nuclear weapons.
The decline of the Soviet Union and the tough years experienced by the former republics supposed huge-scale Physical activities have been infrequent at first-class. Zapad Physical activities have been held a handful of instances from 1981 to 2013, however, 2013 noticed the largest exercise in decades. Just like the unique exercising, Zapad 2013 examined the new system and new ideas and proved that the Russian Military had eventually popped out of the decrepit, underfunded country in which it found itself inside the 1990s and early 2000s.
Zapad 2013 turned into supplied as a confined exercise of approximately twelve thousand troops, taking location both in Belarus and Russia. The Exercises, performed with the aid of Russia’s Western Military District from September 20–26, had been in part orientated across the Baltic location, with factors taking area inside the Kaliningrad Oblast and the adjoining Baltic Sea. Russian and Belarusian forces could, among different things, exercise joint operations between the extraordinary fingers of the armed forces, take a look at the new idea of the navy brigade as an impartial unit of movement, and check the Air pressure and Air Protection force’s ability to at ease pleasant airspace.
The Jamestown Foundation defined the conflict situation for Zapata 2013, an uncommon one wherein “Baltic terrorists” with amphibious craft, attack helicopters, and Su-25 and Su-30 assault and strike aircraft attacked Belarus and then fled into the towns, forcing the defenders to engage in urban conflict. The “Baltic terrorists” have been a thinly veiled connection with NATO.
In fact, outside observers believe greater than seven instances as many troops, in the long run, took component, up to 90 thousand. This covered 530 armored vehicles, fifty artillery portions, and ninety planes. additionally taking element have been twenty thousand Indoors Ministry troops focusing on internal protection operations.
The exercising becomes mainly unsettling to Russia’s acquaintances. Using Zubr delivery hovercraft to land Russian and Belarusian Marines was in particular ominous to NATO’s Baltic individuals, such as Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania, all of which had joined NATO against Russia’s opposition and that have periodically been the victim of Russian Military intimidation. The Zubr hovercraft can deliver as much as a company’s well worth of Russian armored automobiles—ten in all, or up to 366 troops—and land them on coastlines up to 3 hundred miles away.
At the same time as Zapata 2013 become framed as a Defense-orientated exercise, various tactical elements lent themselves to Russia’s next interventions both in Crimea and Syria. It turned into all through the workout that Western observers mentioned Russia’s use of unmanned aerial motors to locate targets for artillery and conduct bomb-damage evaluation—something that would be seen the subsequent 12 months inside the conflict in Ukraine. The Sports additionally saw the use tactical missiles in the deep-strike role, which Russia has practiced in Syria and counterguerrilla operations in urban environments.
Further to strategies, some Russian navy devices that participated in Zapad 2013 went directly to fight within the Crimea and Donbass, inclusive of Seventy-6th Guards Air Assault Division and the Thirty-First Guards Air Attack Brigade. Russian Spetsnaz unique forces worried in the Sporting activities may additionally have additionally long past directly to combat in eastern Ukraine and Syria.
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