RP WIP ZONE for when the WiFi mcfucking dies or is otherwise unreliable(same anon, had to retype this bcs tumblr ate it the first time. It’s not as good) It’s definitely a pretty complex topic to be sure. I do think people should be able to explore whatever topics in fiction that they want (with some erring on the side of caution to have some taste/respect and do research if it’s something they’re unfamiliar with) but it’s a massive gray zone with a really blurry line between ‘exploration’ (1/?)

and just being like “well I’m writing this bcs I can’t do it IRL so fiction it is hehehoo I wish I could tho” . I see your point abt wanting to put something online to be heard rather than venting in a private diary but my worry with that is like,, a retraumatization issue? Like they’ll accidentally open themselves up to be hurt again (like some bozo telling them that their vent fiction is hot/sexy/generally being gross at them) or something else unintended but unpleasant. And for the (2/?)

‘writing a bad character from their perspective where they’re Right’ thing that’s totally valid; it doesn’t/shouldn’t take a genius to figure out that just because THEY think they’re right doesn’t mean YOU do. It’s interesting to explore fucked up mindsets but it’s again a matter of knowing what you’re doing and getting into. I’m fairly sure I lost the point I wanted to make in this response but I hope something got across? Cheers, and good day!

oh and yeah Disc Horse = Discourse but like written differently (but same general intent tho)

Lol so Disc Horse is kinda like.  “I am here to discuss The Tea but not in a wild way,” like a sort of reassurance that we’re here for Civilized Discussion If Possible before we even get started by making it sound somewhat sillier/more gentle.  Or I guess that’s how I’m reading it haha.  Thank you for clarifying!!

ALSO RIP WIFI. . .god my wifi was acting a fucking mess like last week so I Know That Feel Bruh.  Akhursgb nonetheless, it’s good to me!!  I honestly do appreciate that we’re having a Talk this way haha maybe because rambling is something I do well.

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It is absolutely complex, yeah.  Like even I don’t wanna be too liberal with it because then people think they can get away with things, but I also feel like it shouldn’t be restrained. . .it’s more like ‘I don’t trust people,’ yeah lmao I.  Feel like there’s probably an element of ‘therapeutic escape’ even when it’s a matter of ‘I can’t do this IRL so I’ll write it instead’--outletting and all, but yeah at that point it’s like. . .the respect matter comes into play real hard with something like that.  The outlet is good, way better than actually going out and doing something, but.  The way you say it and handle that fact overall is.  Important.  It’s good to be honest but there are things you don’t yell from the high heavens.

And oh wow I didn’t even consider the retraumatization aspect. . .yeah that’d be. . .I’d love to say ‘they could say it’s a vent/trauma/recovery outlet type of writing and ask that people be careful in their commenting’ but, again, people cannot be trusted lmao. . . .harsh as it is to say, those’re kinda the risks one takes putting things online or being online in general. . .of course it’s not deserved or justified, but. . .that risk is there.  But lately it’s begun to occur to me that some people may not know about that risk/threat. . .like what’s simple internet knowledge and stuff to be aware of to me isn’t something everyone has in mind/considers. . .hhh that des complicate the idea yeah, the idea can definitely get questionable to bad when that’s an issue.

Yeah!!  I think that way but I’ve absolutely had people misinterpret that my character has this interest or mindset means I do too, and I know it happens now and then to others too. . .that’s why IC=/=OOC is like my #1 rule lol I SWEAR I AM NOT A CRIMINAL I JUST PLAY THEM ON THE INTERNET AND KNOW HOW TO USE GOOGLE.  But there’s also anxiety issues and like people with problems perceiving reality. . .so while it shouldn’t be an issue, now and then it is and now and then not entirely at the fault of the person having that issue.  ;w;;;  But I guess that’s why we have those disclaimers here and there I suppose. . . .

BUT YEAH I think I follow what you’re saying!!  Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me, friend!  /o/  It’s good to see/hear other people saying ‘it’s a gray issue’ when I often see other people saying “nope you just can’t do that” lmao then again. . .that happens on the internet, you’ll often see the loud and protestable content before other things. . .hopefully someday there can be some measures in place to make these things. . idk safer to do and portray, easier to obscure from those who need it hidden away, and so on.  Until then, publishing these things will definitely hold a risk factor but. . .it’s not usually anybody’s fault in particular as long as all measures have been taken.

You have a good day(or. . .have had a good past few days. . .and a good today and tomorrow just to be sure I cover that period of time.  And y’know what, have a good upcoming week too lol) too!!  o/

Why do you hate klance so much? like I get not shipping it and all but..... why the salt?

Loaded question, anon.  Hate is a strong word, especially because I’m a big supporter of platonic K/ance.  I would love to see them become good friends, to trust each other like friends would and have each other’s back – and not just because they were forced onto a team together.I do have a strong disliking for romantic K/ance, and there’s a few reasons why.And, look, anon, I really don’t want to start any discourse on my blog for this answer, but I feel it’s important to finally get my opinion out there since somebody felt the need to ask.  With the exception of the Battleships, I’ve tried my hardest to keep discourse off of my blog, but I won’t run away from answering an honest question.  I want to also state that my answers are, of course, based on my experience alone and no one else’s.  Sooo, here goes:1) @ntis.  That is, hands down, the #1 reason why my dislike for K/ance is so strong.  I’ve seen… just awful things being said to and about Sha//adin and She/th shippers because of the idea that these ships are immoral and liking these ships makes you a horrible person.  Sha//adin shippers have been dismissed as human freaking beings for liking and creating content for a fictional ship.  They have been harassed, threatened, and suicide-bated (I can provide a masterpost of receipts if need be).  This isn’t to say that our side is 100% innocent, but the toxicity I have seen coming from this side has been mostly out of retaliation against @nti-hate.  

You might be wondering what this has to do with K/ance.  Well, everything.  Not all K/ance shippers are @ntis; a lot of K/ance shippers I’ve talked to are pretty cool.  But the rhetoric that pushes so hard to convince VLD fans that She/th is immoral and disgusting is the same rhetoric that hails K/ance as the purest and only valid ship in the show.  K/ance is perfect while Sha//adin ships are trash.  K/ance is the definite end game while Sha//adin is dead.  K/ance is tender and sweet while Sha//adin is abusive (which, for the record, is downright incorrect which we’ll get into in a bit).  You can see the pattern here.  Unfortunately, most of my dislike for K/ance is due to the fact that is it so strongly associated with @ntis, and I know I am not the only one who feels that way.  EDIT: I forgot to mention something very important that others have pointed out.  There have also been instances of @ntis harassing the VAs and staff for their open support of Sha//adin ships, and that’s just.. beyond not okay.  And when it comes to really pushing a ship onto the writers/staff to make it canon, it’s almost always K/ance shippers (again, this is from what I’ve seen personally).  2)  I am not a fan of the K/ance dynamic.  I knew people shipped K/ance before I even started watching Voltron, so I started the show expecting to ship K/ance.  However, when I saw how Lance treated Keith, I was dumbfounded.  Lance seemed to take every chance he could to insult Keith – his hair, his skills, his judgement, etc.  Keith, for the most part, seemed to try and ignore Lance, wanting nothing to do with him unless it involved their “competition,” which is something that Lance had kind of forced onto him in the very beginning.  Keith didn’t even remember who Lance was in Episode One, let alone how they apparently were always “neck-and-neck.”  And then there are pieces of dialogue that I just can’t ignore.  Lance: “I actually don’t hate you right.”  Keith:  “You stay on one side of the pool, and I’ll stay on the other, and we’ll be far far away from each other. Very. Far. Away.”  

In short, these two just don’t seem to like each other.  They seem to work well enough together – and barely, at that – because they’re on a team.  Outside of being Paladins of Voltron, they aren’t even friends.  In Season 3, I believe that the only reason why Lance even confided in Keith is because he acknowledges him as a leader now.  He even expressly states that.  The only leg I can see that romantic K/ance has to stand on is the “the-only-reason-he’s-mean-to-you-is-because-he-likes-you” trope, and honestly, that’s very juvenile, in my opinion.  If someone bullied me like Lance bullies Keith, regardless of their intentions, I could never be involved with them.  I know a few people who have been on the receiving end of that situation, and they’ve basically said, “Hell no.”  3) In comes my last point, which will probably seem redundant.  What really grinds my gears is when K/ance shippers and @ntis alike insist on how perfect the ship is because of their canon moments.  You mean the canon moments that I mentioned above?  @ntis call Sha//adin ships abusive when the only abusive ship I see here thus far is K/ance because of the way that Lance treats Keith and how Keith responds to it.  K/ancers and @ntis call She/th a garbage ship when the writers have done nothing but show how supportive and caring and trusting Keith and Shiro are with each other.  Yet K/ance is the pure ship when Lance and Keith hardly get along?  I don’t understand it, anon.  I just don’t.Well, there’s my salt, I guess.  Hope I answered your question, or that you got what you wanted out of my answer.TL;DR – @ntis have ruined any chances of me ever remotely liking romantic K/ance, and I don’t see their dynamic as healthy or likable.I’m open to any civil discussion regarding anything I’ve talked about thus far, but if you are just looking to start discourse, please do not interact.  That was not the purpose of this answer.Anyways, sorry for unloading on you like that, anon, but I hope you have a nice day!

do you think Remus ever forgave Severus? i mean he said he did but how could he? (this is about the last post you reblogged)

I’m such a poor ask answerer that I’ve forgotten which post this was. I tried to go back and find it but I ran into Remus’ birthday marathon (90 posts, I think) and... I realized I tend to leave asks a little too long. Whoops. Sorry! So that just means you’ll be getting a broader post about a couple more Snape-Remus incidents, to really tackle the issues of Forgiveness.

To answer the question most openly and honestly, no, I don’t think Remus forgave Snape. There’s a lot of significant things happening between them over the years, and I think Remus tried to. I do genuinely believe that he tried, that he wanted to be the person that could and that perhaps he even told Harry that for more than just appearing to be the mature Adult. I think part of that is trying to also reaffirm to himself that it happened. But Remus is one of those people who has struggled in a particularly subtext way: I’m betting he’s had his fair share of “Get away from me werewolf”, (sorry Ron), but I’m willing to bet even more that on top of that is a layer of, “Yeah I don’t think we can hire people like... that.” It’s easier to be cruel behind the scenes. Remus suffers prejudice and poor reputation before he opens his mouth. And he tries to cement a few times that it hasn’t affected him, that the world can keep on pushing and that he’ll keep on chugging. But... let’s be honest: he’s a little bitter in his heart.

“Dumbledore wanted a spy, and here I was... ready-made.” HBP16.

“This time tomorrow the owls will start arriving. They will not want a werewolf teaching their children, Harry.” PoA22

These are little examples of the ways Remus doesn’t openly speak of his experiences, but they are hinted at nonetheless. Up top, he’s not mad at Dumbledore. He’s bitter that Dumbledore’s right--that he really is the man for the job that he really doesn’t want. That he’s already a werewolf, so why shouldn’t he be the one to go and face the others of his kind, something probably traumatic and triggering--or at least disturbing and uncomfortable for Remus, a man who straight up abhors anything wolfy let alone werewolfy. And the second? He just knows without having to think about it how mothers and fathers will react to him: the same way job makers do when he applies for a position, the same way landlords do when he applies for a lease. Hell, half his conversations in OotP are about how it’s impossible for him to find a job, and even the werewolf bitten in the ward is getting scared looks a full two weeks before his first transformation. Remus constantly pushes himself down, degrading his accomplishments and personal character, describing himself as a monster when we know he’s a kind, loving, brave, fiercely loyal and intelligent man. But nonetheless, he’s been beaten and brutalized mentally so much that he’s internalized it and he happily does it to himself, too. That’s not a happy man. That’s a bitter man. Remus says otherwise, but his words speak the truth for themselves.

To keep with that, Snape has never treated Remus particularly well.

He snapped his fingers, and the ends of the cords that bound Lupin flew into his hands. “I’ll drag the werewolf. Perhaps the dementors will have a Kiss for him too--”

“Don’t ask me to fathom the way a werewolf’s mind works,” hissed Snape.

These are minor quotes from right around the same part of PoA as the above. Look at the disdain Snape has for Remus--not even as a person, but as a creature. Snape doesn’t say, “I’ll drag the professor,” or, “I’ll drag Lupin,” no--it’s: “I’ll drag the werewolf.” “Don’t ask me to fathom how a werewolf’s mind works.” In other words, “Remus Lupin is not a man, he’s a savage beast who doesn’t even think like a human because he isn’t one.” And I’ve got several things to say about “drag the werewolf” too, but... I won’t. Not here.

Anyway.

Snape and Remus may have had their childhood quarrels, which explains Snape’s personal dislike. But during PoA Remus tries more than hard to maintain a civil relationship with his colleague, save the incident with Neville which I’m willing to write off was more to really deflate Snape in Neville’s mind than to straight up humiliate Snape, who by then had already spoken to Dumbledore about not hiring Remus at all and who was making wolfsbane potion for Remus anyway. Remus had had 12 years to distance himself from Snape, and he probably didn’t want to start stirring the pot on day 1.

At this point, it’s arguable whether Snape has done anything that really warrants forgiveness. Remus and Snape haven’t seen one another in 12 years, and I’m sure there are incidents we don’t know about. But the one we do know of is the most important one from that period: the Shack incident, in which Remus was seen by Snape and Snape was forced into secrecy. I sincerely doubt that Remus would actually hold this against Snape in any way. Remus knows Snape has it out for him. Remus expects the behavour our of Snape. And everything would have gone as normal if it weren’t for Sirius. Sirius is the one at fault here, not Snape, and I don’t think Remus felt any lasting resentment for that. Rather, I think he felt fear at having his greatest weakness handed to his worst enemy by a friend. I would argue that even knowing Dumbledore had bidden Snape into secrecy that Remus lay awake at night in terror of what Snape might do with that information. And I further argue that Snape probably made Remus’ life a living hell when he could, using that specific information. Just look at what he does 12 years later as a grown man: the infamous “turn to page 394″ business. It’s no secret that Snape was trying to get the students to figure it out, and quite actively. He was trying to get someone to shun Remus for him, because he was tied by some darn red tape into being a decent person and keeping his mouth shut.

But this doesn’t prevent Snape from spilling the beans by the end of the book, of course. And this is the first of the larger-scale things I would argue fall under the “forgiveness” umbrella, because while I think after having been loose on the grounds, arguably an understandable accident but dangerous nonetheless, that Remus would have resigned anyway. He knew that was an unforgivable error on his part, accident or no (not that he sees it that way, though) and that he didn’t want to allow the possibility to manifest ever again. Resigning was the right choice. Now, Dumbledore didn’t fire him, either. Formally, Remus quit. But Snape went ahead and told the entire school about his dirty laundry anyway. Snape outed him to the students, who outed him to their parents, who outed him to the larger wizarding world through gossip and outrage. I’m sure there was a Prophet article, and even a controversy about it. But the thing is, Dumbledore convinced the Minister of Magic himself that Remus was trying to save their lives that night. So Snape, outraged about the loss of his Order of Merlin, took it upon himself to “accidentally let slip” that Remus was a werewolf. At breakfast. In front of the entire school.

And Remus?

Lupin shrugged. “The news would have leaked out anyway. We both know he wanted my job, but he could have wreaked much worse damage on me by tampering with the potion. He kept me healthy. I must be grateful.”

Except that Snape was under orders to make the potion, obligated by potential murder charges and job loss to make it correctly, and Remus is essentially saying, “Sure, he cost me the best and most stable job I’ve ever had, but at least he didn’t poison me.” I mean, Snape did want to have Remus’ soul sucked out of his mouth and all, too. But Remus has to be grateful. What’s worse is that Remus believes that he has to be grateful, too. Sure, he says, he and Snape will never be bosom buddies. Too much history with Sirius and James and Severus. But at least he didn’t poison me.

I probably didn’t explain this in the best way, but think of it all like this: Remus thinks he deserves that kind of treatment, or he isn’t surprised by it. He expects it. But that doesn’t mean he’s not affected by it, doesn’t mean he doesn’t have to live with the realities of what Snape does to him. And that doesn’t mean that he isn’t privately bitter about it, because as we’ve seen he is affected profoundly by the life he’s lived. Whether he goes, “I hate Snape” or not, I don’t think Remus forgets that Snape has that part to play in the way his life has unfolded. I don’t think Remus is angry about it, but that doesn’t mean he forgives Snape even if he expects it. Remus trusts Snape because Dumbledore trusts Snape. That’s enough for him. But I don’t think they would actively work together without that tie to bind them together. I think Remus probably feels that Snape is a largely unchanged man, and I doubt he would honestly go to Snape for help unless he was going to die, and then he’d half expect to be laughed at, die, and have Snape kick his body off his doorstep like a man flicking something disgusting off his shoe. How can Remus not feel a level of resentment? Even if he wants to be the bigger man and say, “yes, I have forgiven him,” I don’t think that’s completely true. And I think that’s okay, that that’s human, and it’s especially so that Remus is trying to get himself to forgive. It’s astonishing, really. But I still think that there’s a pocket of underlying resentment that really stops it from becoming completely true, if that makes sense.

And I had more thoughts on this so I may edit or reblog and add more, but alas my free time has ended and now I have to cut it short here. So anyone else, feel free to add on to this or start a discourse or what have you.

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I wish I knew this when I ‘Woke Up’

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Published on Apr 5, 2014

Welcome to the Channel: http://youtu.be/Wo3prvrLInE Our Website: http://www.suspicious0bservers.org Major Warnings/Alerts: https://twitter.com/TheRealS0s

Please Read Before Commenting: If something in this video has upset you, I'll ask if you grasped that I am anti-geoengineering, favor the proving grounds rather than the fearmonger's think-tank, I recognize many potential cover-ups and conspiracies, current and former. I attempt only to help us lose the aspects of this community that stagnate our progress or harm our credibility. We have so much value here, and I see it wasted. Waking up truly takes away a significant logical filter of ours… everything we've trusted is 'broken' in a way, and it takes time to mend it. This is not easy.

Young men make wars but the wise strive for courage and seek towards securing a better future. I have a genuine doubt about the ability of our community to prevail in its current status - I am still trying to gain the patience to deal with the fact that repetition has become, and will forever be, a necessary element of my discourse and presentations. There will always be the 'newly awakened' and there will always be homework to do and some of the same questions to be repeated - such is our burden. This is not easy.

Dear BY, what can I say? We've discussed this so many times. How do you explain to someone that they have a fault, even just one, and not have their first reaction be anger? We're not operating in the most sensible environment… that much is clear after 3 minutes in any comment section. So much anger, not enough love. I don't know if people will even hear the logic here, but I did my best. I love this community, and let's face it- we both knew I'd have to try at some point. I don't mind being the bad guy here if a good number of people understand the message being conveyed. Either we will grow up, or we will fall.

Dear everyone worried about #chemtrails OR #Fukushima, I need you to put your 'big-boy' ears on now. Fukushima is not a new concern. The water may not be the best, and I'm avoiding fish from there, but the real danger came in dramatic fashion in the days following the initial disaster. Chemtrails have been sprayed for decades. The worst elements of both are already in every breath, every sip, and every bite. There is nothing you can do about it, and nobody who can hide from it. There is no vaccine against it, and no DNA that is invulnerable. I understand what it is like the get into the Fukushima or chemtrails aspect of this community… did ya see the video? For those of you most interested in the Fukushima topic, we need to all get together on how cosmic rays affect uranium. It is one of the most important things in our world today.

Dear AJ, what can I say? I will condemn the anti-Semitic attacks you have received, those have no place in civil discourse - but then again, sometimes that can be said for you. I count 51 times I requested your audience, once per every 1000 subscribers to my channel, then after 51 attempts I tried to gain your attention through harsh comments… I was finally blocked. I checked on my status weekly and since I spent months being blocked, and recently became able to post again, I know you are paying attention. The question is, since you have hit click 'read more' to see this much of the comment, will you even have the diligence to see my message? I showed you approximately as much respect as you showed for Piers and CNN and for each of us, that you acted so childish as our representative. You had a forum on national TV, that was our chance to make a statement and you did indeed - the wrong one. That was our shot to show everyone we are not raving lunatics… or perhaps it was the goal to make up appear that way? I don't expect an answer, as usual.

Dear DI, you know exactly what you are doing. My only point of interest is whether your stories are a product of your own creativity or a script handed to you by someone else.

Dear MJ/JL, what can I say? How can I expect you not to be mad. I hope you are the type that can take an honest and deserved jab in the mouth, look back at me in the eyes and seriously consider what I said in this video. You have never given it a chance before, or if you did, you are fools. My logic is undeniable when it comes to our focus in weather modification and at some point we must decide once and for all- whether our goal is merely 'awareness' and a historical context, or actual change. I have ignored accusation after accusation about you two, that you know full well what you are doing and perhaps that you are even paid by the current operation to push focus away from them- away from the current truth. I have refused to believe it because I woke up on your backs, you have spent time in my hall of heroes but you now appear as pillars of hypocrisy, contempt, and confusion. You have lost the true purpose that binds us together in the first place - to stop that which is not righteous among us. You have become content in your level of current progress and are unwilling to take the next step. Let's face it, I could have chosen to do this another way, but I didn't. I have no interest in starting any issues with you; my inspiration is merely the continued progress of the community we share. If you feel like I took a shot at you… you merely got in the way of that noble goal. If you are not fools, you must recognize my purpose, my intent, and the merit of my logic. I implore you to see reason, and see that this video is a hesitant outstretched hand - but we'll need to discuss where you stand on the logic presented here, first. Your current path leads to a barren wasteland; there is nothing in the desert, and no man needs nothing.

Dear BP, what the hell else can I call you? I have no idea what your real name is, and given that your current channel is not the first of your joke-channels to bear the BP label so I'll just go with that. Do you remember the compliment paid to you when you were MrCW? I said that your passion and presentation could make you one of the best on YouTube if you could get past some of the silly mistakes. Here we are, two years later, and it is the same mistakes, the same stories under a new veil, the same attacks on me. Well this video should be the straw that breaks the camels back for that - good luck convincing those fools that I am trying to hide something- the straw is more like a knife to the face of that notion of yours. Not acknowledging the nonsense you purport on a weekly basis is not the essence of a conspiracy. How you manage to keep the attention of these people is astounding - it is truly a feat to which millions aspire to execute. How could you use your forum so irresponsibly? I know you can do better; whatever personal desperation is driving your need to push the bounds of respectable reporting for he sake of popularity, please do what it takes to make sure these people do not pay the price in credibility, time, and emotion.

Dear Terral, I WILL use your name, because you do the same to me. Stop using my name in your presentations, as sporadic as it may be. I have no idea how you are managing to do this under a new channel name, the 6th in 6 consecutive years. You have taken my explanation of your mistakes and twisted them into reasons to further your own agenda. This is of the lowest merit.

To those specifically interested in more on my discussions of life elsewhere, or Agenda 21, there are specific series on these topics at our website. Our weekly 'Fly on the Wall' audio uploads also touch on a number of topics that go far far beyond the topics covered in the daily news.

I will do my best to go over many of these topics in detail in the future, but if you really want MY opinion on something (seriously I don't know why, I'm just another guy) then come shake my hand in person and do what 100s of people did at the conference: walk up and ask me about Flight 370 or chemtrails or #HAARP or anything. I hope the message here was clear, and if you have questions, I recommend a private message on YouTube or an email via our website. Recognize the difficulty in the process and how it has affected you - before I could admit and recognize it in me, I was one of the people I currently am aiming to reach today.

After the first 'wake up' - you are awake. When you do it again, you are an 0bserver. Eyes open, no fear - be safe everyone. Ben Davidson