Why we don’t like it when children hit us back

To all the children who have ever been told to “respect” someone that hated them.

March 21, 2023

Even those of us that are disturbed by the thought of how widespread corporal punishment still is in all ranks of society are uncomfortable at the idea of a child defending themself using violence against their oppressors and abusers. A child who hits back proves that the adults “were right all along,” that their violence was justified. Even as they would cheer an adult victim for defending themself fiercely.

Even those “child rights advocates” imagine the right child victim as one who takes it without ever stopping to love “its” owners. Tear-stained and afraid, the child is too innocent to be hit in a guilt-free manner. No one likes to imagine the Brat as Victim—the child who does, according to adultist logic, deserve being hit, because they follow their desires, because they walk the world with their head high, because they talk back, because they are loud, because they are unapologetically here, and resistant to being cast in the role of guest of a world that is just not made for them.

If we are against corporal punishment, the brat is our gotcha, the proof that it is actually not that much of an injustice. The brat unsettles us, so much that the “bad seed” is a stock character in horror, a genre that is much permeated by the adult gaze (defined as “the way children are viewed, represented and portrayed by adults; and finally society’s conception of children and the way this is perpetuated within institutions, and inherent in all interactions with children”), where the adult fear for the subversion of the structures that keep children under control is very much represented.

It might be very well true that the Brat has something unnatural and sinister about them in this world, as they are at constant war with everything that has ever been created, since everything that has been created has been built with the purpose of subjugating them. This is why it feels unnatural to watch a child hitting back instead of cowering. We feel like it’s not right. We feel like history is staring back at us, and all the horror we felt at any rebel and wayward child who has ever lived, we are feeling right now for that reject of the construct of “childhood innocence.” The child who hits back is at such clash with our construction of childhood because we defined violence in all of its forms as the province of the adult, especially the adult in authority.

The adult has an explicit sanction by the state to do violence to the child, while the child has both a social and legal prohibition to even think of defending themself with their fists. Legislation such as “parent-child tort immunity” makes this clear. The adult’s designed place is as the one who hits, and has a right and even an encouragement to do so, the one who acts, as the person. The child’s designed place is as the one who gets hit, and has an obligation to accept that, as the one who suffers acts, as the object. When a child forcibly breaks out of their place, they are reversing the supposed “natural order” in a radical way.

This is why, for the youth liberationist, there should be nothing more beautiful to witness that the child who snaps. We have an unique horror for parricide, and a terrible indifference at the 450 children murdered every year by their parents in just the USA, without even mentioning all the indirect suicides caused by parental abuse. As a Psychology Today article about so-called “parricide” puts it:

Unlike adults who kill their parents, teenagers become parricide offenders when conditions in the home are intolerable but their alternatives are limited. Unlike adults, kids cannot simply leave. The law has made it a crime for young people to run away. Juveniles who commit parricide usually do consider running away, but many do not know any place where they can seek refuge. Those who do run are generally picked up and returned home, or go back on their own: Surviving on the streets is hardly a realistic alternative for youths with meager financial resources, limited education, and few skills.

By far, the severely abused child is the most frequently encountered type of offender. According to Paul Mones, a Los Angeles attorney who specializes in defending adolescent parricide offenders, more than 90 percent have been abused by their parents. In-depth portraits of such youths have frequently shown that they killed because they could no longer tolerate conditions at home. These children were psychologically abused by one or both parents and often suffered physical, sexual, and verbal abuse as well—and witnessed it given to others in the household. They did not typically have histories of severe mental illness or of serious and extensive delinquent behavior. They were not criminally sophisticated. For them, the killings represented an act of desperation—the only way out of a family situation they could no longer endure.

- Heide, Why Kids Kill Parents, 1992.

Despite these being the most frequent conditions of “parricide,” it still brings unique disgust to think about it for most people. The sympathy extended to murdering parents is never extended even to the most desperate child, who chose to kill to not be killed. They chose to stop enduring silently, and that was their greatest crime; that is the crime of the child who hits back. Hell, children aren’t even supposed to talk back. They are not supposed to be anything but grateful for the miserable pieces of space that adults carve out in a world hostile to children for them to live following adult rules. It isn’t rare for children to notice the adult monopoly on violence and force when they interact with figures like teachers, and the way they use words like “respect.” In fact, this social dynamic has been noticed quite often:

Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority” and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person” and they think they’re being fair but they aren’t, and it’s not okay.

(https://soycrates.tumblr.com/post/115633137923/stimmyabby-sometimes-people-use-respect-to-mean)

But it has received almost no condemnation in the public eye. No voices have raised to contrast the adult monopoly on violence towards child bodies and child minds. No voices have raised to praise the child who hits back. Because they do deserve praise. Because the child who sets their foot down and says this belongs to me, even when it’s something like their own body that they are claiming, is committing one of the most serious crimes against adult society, who wants them dispossessed.

Sources:

“The Adult Gaze: a tool of control and oppression,” https://livingwithoutschool.com/2021/07/29/the-adult-gaze-a-tool-of-control-and-oppression

“Filicide,” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filicide

El abuso que sufres es culpa de quienes te explotan, no de quienes abusan más que a ti. 🌐

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Disavowed yields Disenchanted yield Disaffected....then what?? Disavowed yields Disaffected...then what?? disaffected ˌdisəˈfektəd/ : disaffected with the people in authority and no longer willing to support them. " military plot by disaffected elements in the army" : disgruntled discontented malcontent frustrated National Psychopath: Leaders Sowing and Growing Hate Revenge Violence against Innocents14 posts with info related toof Abuse Violence 1.starts with the psychopath plan of Divide Conquer and Rule using Propaganda 2.moves to minions 3.it moves into families and society 4.: the response to that violence counters like pendulum of a clock: (United States) From Wikipedia the free encyclopedia This article is about the U.S.movement. For other groups with similar names in other languages see Antifa. An Antifa sticker on a No Parking sign in Duluth Minnesota. The Antifa (English: /ænˈtiːfə/ or /ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement is a conglomeration of autonomous self-styled anti-fascist groups in the United States.[2][3][4] The salient feature of Antifa groups is their opposition to fascism by direct action.[5] They are known for their militant protest tactics which has included property damage and physical violence.[6][7][8][2] They tend to be anti-government and anti-capitalist[9] and they are predominantly far left and militant left[10][5] which includes anarchists communists and socialists.[11][12][13][14] Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly rather than on encouraging pro-left policy.[5] Ideology and activities The antifa movement is composed of autonomous groups and thus has no formal organization.[10][20] Antifa groups either form loose support networks such as NYC Antifa or operate independently.[21] Activists typically organize protests via social media and through websites and email lists.[10][20] Some activists have built peer-to-peer networks or use encrypted-texting services like Signal.[22] According to Salon it is an organizing strategy not a group of people.[23] While its numbers cannot be estimated accurately the movement has grown since the election of Donald Trump; approximately 200 groups currently exist in the US of varying sizes and levels of engagement.[16] The activists involved subscribe to a range of ideologies typically on the left; they include anarchists socialists and communists along with some liberals and social democrats.[24][25][26] According to Brian Levin director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at the California State University San Bernardino Antifa activistsin violent actions because "they believe that elites are controlling the government and the media. So they need to make a statement head-on against the people who they regard as racist."[2] According to Mark Bray a historian at Dartmouth College sympathetic to themovement's goals the adherents "reject turning to the police or the state to halt the advance of white supremacy.advocate popular opposition to fascism as we witnessed in Charlottesville."[25] The idea of direct action is central to themovement.organizer Scott Crow told an interviewer: "The idea in Antifa is that we go where they (right-wingers) go. That hate speech is not free speech. That if you are endangering people with what you say and the actions that are behind them then you do not have the right to do that. And so we go to cause conflict to shut them down where they are because we don't believe that Nazis or fascists of any stripe should have a mouthpiece."[2] A manual posted on It's Going Down an anarchist website warns against accepting "people who just want to fight". It furthermore notes that "physically confronting and defending againstis a necessary part of anti-fascist work but is not the only or even necessarily the most important part"[27] Idealized red flag over black flag. Text: ANTIFASCHISTISCHE AKTION Idealized red flag over black flag. Text: ANTIFASCHISTISCHE AKTION A German text Antifa sticker on the representation of her diary at the Anne Frank Human Rights Memorial in Boise Idaho. According to Beinart antifa activists "try to publicly identify white supremacists and get them fired from their jobs and evicted from their apartments" in addition to "disrupt(ing) (sic) white-supremacist rallies including by force".[28] According to a Washington Post book review antifa tactics include "no platforming" i.e. denying their targets platforms from which to speak; obstructing their events and defacing their propaganda; and when Antifa activists deem it necessary deploying violence to deter them.[26] According to National Public Radio "People who speak for the Antifa movement acknowledge they sometimes carry clubs and sticks" and their "approach is confrontational".[29] CNN describes "Antifa" as "known for causing damage to property during protests".[2] Scott Crow described by CNN as "a longtime Antifa organizer" argues that destroying property is not a form of violence.[2] The groups have been associated with physical violence in public against police[30] and against people whose political views its activists deem repugnant[31] Antifa activists used clubs and dyed liquids against the white supremacists in Charlottesville[32] and caused property damage.[2] In one incident an apparent Antifa supporter punched white supremacist Richard Spencer in the face as he was giving an impromptu street interview[33][34] and on another occasion in Berkeley it was reported that some threw Molotov cocktails.[2] The Rise of the Violent Left activists say theyre battling burgeoning authoritarianism on the American right. Are they fueling it instead? Since 1907 Portland Oregonhas hosted an annual Rose Festival. Since 2007 the festival had included a parade down 82nd Avenue. Since 2013 the Republican Party of Multnomah County which includes Portland had taken part. This April all of that changed. In the days leading up to the planned parade a group called the Direct Action Alliance declared Fascists plan to march through the streets and warned Nazis will not march through Portland unopposed. The alliance said it didnt object to the Multnomah GOP itself but to fascists who planned to infiltrate its ranks. Yet it also denounced marchers with Trump flags and redhats who could normalize supportan orange man who bragged about sexually harassing women and who is waging a war of hate racism and prejudice. A second groupStudentsOregon Empowered created a Facebook page called Shut down fascism!nazis in Portland!Next the parades organizers received an anonymous email warning that if Trump supporters and others who promote hateful rhetoric marched we will have two hundred or more people rush into the paradeand drag and push those people out. When Portland police said they lacked the resources to provide adequate security the organizers canceled the parade. It was a sign of things to come. of this excellent recent article:http://theatln.tc/2zWT926 This has not been proven yet but is possible that the Texas Killer was influenced by Antifa Isis or otherleft orright hate groups. : violence begets violence: Video from this weekend Portland Oregon(United States) From Wikipedia the free encyclopedia This article is about the U.S.movement. For other groups with similar names in other languages see Antifa. An Antifa sticker on a No Parking sign in Duluth Minnesota. The Antifa (English: /ænˈtiːfə/ or /ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement is a conglomeration of autonomous self-styled anti-fascist groups in the United States.[2][3][4] The salient feature of Antifa groups is their opposition to fascism by direct action.[5] They are known for their militant protest tactics which has included property damage and physical violence.[6][7][8][2] They tend to be anti-government and anti-capitalist[9] and they are predominantly far left and militant left[10][5] which includes anarchists communists and socialists.[11][12][13][14] Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly rather than on encouraging pro-left policy.[5] Psychopaths Pirates Vampires and more: Run flee tell others! 300 topics on listed below in the Cloud Archive: Click Here: Catalog of 100 Books Kindle Hypnosis Binaural Subliminal CDs anger antifa campus violence hate radical left and right violence #trumpbully #stopbully #trumpmentalhealth http://bit.ly/2rZ1vSp

Disavowed yields Dis

it’s kind of wild how i can log on here or look around “radical” spaces & ppl r treating very normal mundane questions like they’re Completely Unheard Of And New? like “whoa what if X abuser only abuses vulnerable person Y under their authority and not Z, and Z likes them actually bc X is nice to Z, wow checkmate extremists” as if no one personally in the situation of Y (or Z & in solidarity w/Y) might possibly be around here to listen to you? “wow anti-abuser aktion is bad bc but what about Z what if Z depends on X don’t hurt X that’s bad” don’t you think none of us have thought of that already? don’t you fucking know so many ppl are tormented by just that question every single fucking day in this hellscape of a world while you look on smugly & treat our oppression & our trauma as a fucking hypothetical? that that mentality is precisely what pressures numerous people to remain trapped in abuse in the first place?

also how ppl completely overlook “diff survivors of the same abusers who feel differently abt the abuse/want different action wrt the abuser”--that’s a key example that would deconstruct a lot of the nonsense being thrown around, it demands more nuance--and that’s also a thing real people have to deal with and have thought through--but ppl here don’t want nuance, and it’s clear from how they treat survivors as a monolith and also as unthinking non-agentic objects while only Outsiders ever act

like, just, completely clueless all around, stop fucking doing this

Disavowed yields Disenchanted yield Disaffected....then what??

Disavowed yields Dishenchanted yeild Disaffected....then what??

dis·af·fect·ed

ˌdisəˈfektəd/

adjective

adjective: disaffected

dissatisfied with the people in authority and no longer willing to support them.

"a military plot by disaffected elements in the army"

synonyms:dissatisfied, disgruntled, discontented, malcontent, frustrated

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Antifa (United States)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article is about the U.S. political movement. For other groups with similar names in other languages, see Antifa. An Antifa sticker on a No Parking sign in Duluth, Minnesota. The Antifa (English: /ænˈtiːfə/ or /ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement is a conglomeration of autonomous, self-styled anti-fascist groups in the United States.[2][3][4] The salient feature of Antifa groups is their opposition to fascism by direct action.[5] They are known for their militant protest tactics, which has included property damage and physical violence.[6][7][8][2] They tend to be anti-government and anti-capitalist,[9] and they are predominantly far left and militant left,[10][5] which includes anarchists, communists and socialists.[11][12][13][14] Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than on encouraging pro-left policy.[5]  Ideology and activities The antifa movement is composed of autonomous groups, and thus has no formal organization.[10][20] Antifa groups either form loose support networks, such as NYC Antifa, or operate independently.[21] Activists typically organize protests via social media and through websites and email lists.[10][20] Some activists have built peer-to-peer networks, or use encrypted-texting services like Signal.[22] According to Salon, it is an organizing strategy, not a group of people.[23] While its numbers cannot be estimated accurately, the movement has grown since the election of Donald Trump; approximately 200 groups currently exist in the US, of varying sizes and levels of engagement.[16] The activists involved subscribe to a range of ideologies, typically on the left; they include anarchists, socialists and communists along with some liberals and social democrats.[24][25][26] According to Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at the California State University, San Bernardino, Antifa activists participate in violent actions because "they believe that elites are controlling the government and the media. So they need to make a statement head-on against the people who they regard as racist."[2] According to Mark Bray, a historian at Dartmouth College sympathetic to the antifa movement's goals, the adherents "reject turning to the police or the state to halt the advance of white supremacy. Instead they advocate popular opposition to fascism as we witnessed in Charlottesville."[25] The idea of direct action is central to the antifa movement. Antifa organizer Scott Crow told an interviewer: "The idea in Antifa is that we go where they (right-wingers) go. That hate speech is not free speech. That if you are endangering people with what you say and the actions that are behind them, then you do not have the right to do that. And so we go to cause conflict, to shut them down where they are, because we don't believe that Nazis or fascists of any stripe should have a mouthpiece."[2] A manual posted on It's Going Down, an anarchist website, warns against accepting "people who just want to fight". It furthermore notes that "physically confronting and defending against fascists is a necessary part of anti-fascist work, but is not the only or even necessarily the most important part".[27] Idealized red flag over black flag. Text: ANTIFASCHISTISCHE AKTION Idealized red flag over black flag. Text: ANTIFASCHISTISCHE AKTION A German text Antifa sticker on the representation of her diary at the Anne Frank Human Rights Memorial in Boise, Idaho. According to Beinart, antifa activists "try to publicly identify white supremacists and get them fired from their jobs and evicted from their apartments", in addition to "disrupt(ing) (sic) white-supremacist rallies, including by force".[28] According to a Washington Post book review, antifa tactics include "no platforming," i.e., denying their targets platforms from which to speak; obstructing their events and defacing their propaganda; and, when Antifa activists deem it necessary, deploying violence to deter them.[26] According to National Public Radio, "People who speak for the Antifa movement acknowledge they sometimes carry clubs and sticks", and their "approach is confrontational".[29] CNN describes "Antifa" as "known for causing damage to property during protests".[2] Scott Crow, described by CNN as "a longtime Antifa organizer", argues that destroying property is not a form of violence.[2] The groups have been associated with physical violence in public against police[30] and against people whose political views its activists deem repugnant,[31] Antifa activists used clubs and dyed liquids against the white supremacists in Charlottesville[32] and caused property damage.[2] In one incident, an apparent Antifa supporter punched white supremacist Richard Spencer in the face as he was giving an impromptu street interview,[33][34] and on another occasion, in Berkeley, it was reported that some threw Molotov cocktails.[2]

The Rise of the Violent Left

Antifa’s activists say they’re battling burgeoning authoritarianism on the American right. Are they fueling it instead?

Since 1907, Portland, Oregon, has hosted an annual Rose Festival. Since 2007, the festival had included a parade down 82nd Avenue. Since 2013, the Republican Party of Multnomah County, which includes Portland, had taken part. This April, all of that changed.

In the days leading up to the planned parade, a group called the Direct Action Alliance declared, “Fascists plan to march through the streets,” and warned, “Nazis will not march through Portland unopposed.” The alliance said it didn’t object to the Multnomah GOP itself, but to “fascists” who planned to infiltrate its ranks. Yet it also denounced marchers with “Trump flags” and “red maga hats” who could “normalize support for an orange man who bragged about sexually harassing women and who is waging a war of hate, racism and prejudice.” A second group, StudentsOregon  Empowered, created a Facebook page called “Shut down fascism! No nazis in Portland!” Next, the parade’s organizers received an anonymous email warning that if “Trump supporters” and others who promote “hateful rhetoric” marched, “we will have two hundred or more people rush into the parade…  and drag and push those people out.” When Portland police said they lacked the resources to provide adequate security, the organizers canceled the parade. It was a sign of things to come.

 more of this excellent recent article: http://theatln.tc/2AdivMa  This has not been proven yet, but is possible that the Texas Killer was influenced by Antifa, Isis, or other alt left or alt right hate groups.

Antifa: violence begets violence: Video from this weekend, Portland, Oregon

Antifa (United States) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This article is about the U.S. political movement. For other groups with similar names in other languages, see Antifa. An Antifa sticker on a No Parking sign in Duluth, Minnesota. The Antifa (English: /ænˈtiːfə/ or /ˈæntiˌfɑː/)[1] movement is a conglomeration of autonomous, self-styled anti-fascist groups in the United States.[2][3][4] The salient feature of Antifa groups is their opposition to fascism by direct action.[5] They are known for their militant protest tactics, which has included property damage and physical violence.[6][7][8][2] They tend to be anti-government and anti-capitalist,[9] and they are predominantly far left and militant left,[10][5] which includes anarchists, communists and socialists.[11][12][13][14] Their stated focus is on fighting far-right and white supremacist ideologies directly, rather than on encouraging pro-left policy.[5] Psychopaths, Pirates, Vampires, and more:

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