I've always wondered why refugees from Syria, Afghanistan, Libya etc don't seek asylum in Middle Eastern countries like uae and saudi. why only aiming for Europe.? These refugees will easily integrate into societies of uae and saudi when compared to countries like UK or Germany.... Also the men from these countries (Afghanistan Syria etc) have very misogynistic views (not saying that European men are pure) and these guys are responsible for many rapes in Germany when they welcomed these ppl....So I can understand why most European countries are critical about letting these people inside their country, they are mostly thinking about the security of their citizens and obviously maybe a racist perspective also lies there but I hope you understood my point

i mentioned this i believe yesterday but ill repeat, refugees from the MENA region HAVE done that. the largest portion of them STAYED IN THE REGION. ALL of europe has taken in only 14% of ALL refugees.

also when u look at the actual statistics… no they are not more likely to rape simply bc they’re Middle Eastern. the group of refugees taken in have been overwhelmingly young males. young males of all races make up the largest proportion of violent crime.

pls let us stop with this regressive “people of x race are more criminal” alt-right & white supremacist rhetoric. it is not and has never been the case. people are more likely to commit crimes when in certain environments & situations and most importantly, if a group has more young men in it than average, then the crime rate will also be higher. young men commit a huge portion of crime despite them often only making up approximately 10% of the population (sometimes less). it’s not a race thing at all. and the argument that these refugees should’ve stayed in the region: most have done that. ofc europe & africa also received a significant portion, bc they’re literally right next to the Middle East.

I was looking at your anons that you shared. But I feel you are missing the point though I maybe wrong. Thing is culture and environment does greatly affect the way men view and act on things. A man raised in a liberal, cosmopolitan environment is less likely to have violent misogynist tendencies and more likely to support women's rights (though liberal misogyny may still be present) than a man raised in a place where women are subject to chattel slavery and covered or locked up in houses. You can look up global opinion polls where there's a clear hostility towards women's equality and lgbt rights and more support for conservative religiousness in middle East, Africa and South Asia (obviously not all countries in those) compared to Europe or the Americas (including South America). Obviously a man who is from such an environment is more likely to be misogynistic (in terms of actions) than a man from a liberal environment on an average. This has nothing to do with race, because the same man had he been raised in a better environment would've likely been better (on an average). It is fair to blame the global geopolitical game and actions of the Western powers for the current situation in middle East or Afghanistan etc, but that doesn't change the fact that men from these places are more likely to be misogynist due to their environment and culture (not due to their race). What do you think?

i would like to preface this (for future anons) that im simply rbing and tagging that stuff for future reference, these aren’t all there is that ive said on the topic and it’ll take me time to go thru everything ive said on the topic so what ive reblogged is by no means the entirety of my perspective. additionally, ive talked so much about this that i actually have no desire to really have a discussion on it. maybe a civil private one in dms or something, but not a public one on my blog. it’s just bc i found talking about this topic and discussing it with very blatantly racist ppl last month was very emotionally draining for me. so i would appreciate if this discourse isnt reignited bc my intention isn’t to reignite it, but rather simply to find all thats been said on it so i can share it with another blogger on here.

OKAY so onto what u said. i agree that environment plays a massive role, in fact i think it’s predominantly what drives people’s behaviours in this context. however, i disagree with the argument that it’s about culture. i think it is about society and environment, but culture in itself isn’t the root of the issue a lot of the time. you brought up afghanistan, and i think that’s a good example of what i mean. culture is very deeply rooted and our cultures often have hundreds if not thousands of years of history behind them. what we’re seeing in afghanistan today isn’t the result of culture— it’s the result of an extreme societal change that happened several decades ago. not to say afghanistan didn’t have their own battles with misogyny before taliban got power, but taliban getting power and coming to exist isnt because of afghan culture (which ive seen many people argue and then use to point out that “well their culture led to this, and since they created their culture this goes to show these people are innately more misogynistic and violent”) but rather because of foreign powers. communism was on the rise in many nations in the middle east and in afghanistan as well. on another end, there were also islamists. they existed (afaik, we have saudi to thank for that) but they were weak and didn’t have influence. western powers, namely US, thought of communism as a threat to their power & to their livelihood, and thus supported and empowered the “lesser threat”, which are the Islamists. this helped the Islamists gain power and take over. this led to a major societal shift in afghanistan. what was once a country where women could walk around dressed however they liked, turned into a country where women were being forced to wear a burqa. what was once a country where women were getting educated, now became a country where women had to pretend to be boys if they wanted to learn. there’s some famous images showing this (ofc they don’t give us the full picture of life in afghanistan before taliban took over, but we get an idea), all of them being afaik from afghanistan in the 60s and 70s:

so i firmly am against the argument that the primary issues involve their culture. the islamists existence AND their power were both things that came from outside influence and outside powers. what i think is fairer to say, is that the difference in extremes of misogyny is to do with society and moreso social progress. we cannot argue that misogyny in Western Europe is less extreme because of Western European culture, especially when European society, around the same time as the images above, had a lot of undeniable misogyny. for example, at around the same time, italy had a law where women were forced to marry their rapists so that their rapist can basically get away with it, and in the 60s was the first time when a woman publicly refused to do so (her name is franca viola). women like the aforementioned one pushed for social progress which has made life better for women today, it wasn’t about the difference in culture.

with some practices, i would give culture more credit. for example, fgm is an ancient cultural practice in various countries. however, some practices aren’t cultural. taliban is far from a reflection of afghan culture. and of course men took advantage of the taliban and became more overtly misogynistic. the number of men that come from places where women’s rights have made massive progress, only to go to other countries and be incredibly misogynistic to the women in said countries, points to me that even with social progress, men will try to find a way to be misogynistic in a way thats acceptable enough (ex: sex tourism or mail order brides).

this is a long reply and by no means everything i think on this, but hopefully you understand now where im coming from. i don’t disagree culture can play a role, but a lot of the time what people blame on culture isn’t even about the country’s culture to begin with.

girl europe's population aging is not a reason to take in 'refugees'. you really think a bunch of MENA dudes who spend their day on the street committing petty crime and harrassing or even attacking women are contributing economically instead of sucking welfare dry ? lmfao. european countries do have the resources to come up with economic policy that doesn't rely on eternal population growth, previously natal, and now massively imported from the least compatible cultures on earth.

guys pls ignore the statistics and facts, pls listen to this anon's baseless assumptions based on racial prejudice. ofc if its "MENA dudes", they are probably lying and faking it (despite stats not backing this up). MENA refugees are liars and suspicious and "sucking welfare dry", unlike european refeugees, who are always honest and truthful and cannot harm an economy by virtue of being white.

Hello. If you have the time and energy, I was wondering if you could explain how the statement "Europe's culture is being threatened [by immigrants/immigration]" is an altright conspiracy? This is the first time I've ever heard this so I'm interested in hearing the reasons behind it, not trying to be rude or racist or anything.

it’s based on the replacement theory, which is a white supremacist theory:

the argument is that european culture is being “destroyed” and “erased” bc europeans themselves are being “erased”. but when you look at it factually, this is not the case. that person’s claim is that sharia law and muslims are taking over France when Muslims are between 5-9% of france’s population:

and it certainly doesn’t seem to be the case when you realise France is the first country to ban the niqab & burqa:

and france is currently considering banning the hijab in even more settings:

this is also not touching on the fact that several muslims in france are no longer practicing, there are thousands of converts out of islam into christianity, several people born to 1 muslim parent who consider themselves christian & practice christianity, etc.

the reality is, this fear of european culture and people being overtaken and erased is based on very little. sure there is a growth % of muslims in europe… but when you realise the highest % of muslims in a european country is bulgaria because of immigration in the 1800s and the second is then france at 8.8% (statistics on the exact number ranges):

you realise europe isn’t in fact being overtaken by hoards of muslims, that european culture is completely fine.

so basically the answer to ur question is…. It’s an altright conspiracy bc the people who came up with it are white supremacists and the basis for it is incredibly weak. it’s just yet another case of racist & xenophobic fear-mongering

since ive been seeing white nationalist lies being reiterated: the claim that the gulf doesn’t take in muslim immigrants & doesn’t take in immigrants is a lie. the claim that most ME immigrants are overwhelmingly going into europe is also a lie.

swedish women should start a class-action lawsuit against their own government for gross negligence of their safety and complicity in sexual abuse.

it’s obvious that you’re a white supremacist thats deeply dishonest and not worth engaging in any discussion with. you’re racist plain and simple and despite repeatedly showing it and straight up arguing white genocide is real, you don’t even have the decency to own up to it. im tired of being bombarded with your racism when ive said all i have to and repeatedly expressed that i have nothing more to say and am done with the convo. so ill block you now. good luck with whatever the fuck this is

To the immigration discoursers (Womenfrommars & co), the stats are from the United Nations as of end-2020:

Turkey hosts the largest number of refugees, with nearly 3.7 million people. Colombia is second with 1.7 million. Third place is a tie between Pakistan and Uganda at 1.4 million. 45.7 million Muslim refugees are displaced within their own countries.

i talked about this before, and pointed out how people acting like all the refugees are flooding europe is, in fact, a lie bc over 80% of refugees are actually in “third world” countries. they then started saying the only reason turkey took in so many is for leverage, and dismissed all other countries with many refugees (lebanon and jordan as well have both taken in countless refugees for decades to the point where their population is significantly made up of refugees). they started talking about their housing crisis and how europe can’t handle it, as if countries like pakistan or colombia can.