I'm so sorry Sam girls but Sam would not call Dean "Dee" as a nickname. Dean isn't very nicknameable and Sam's not that nickname guy. Unfortunate I know.

Bad Writer vs Good Writer

Chuck vs the Fandom

Destiel meta. TFW meta. Supernatural 15x04 Atomic Monsters. Meta spec. Visual Narrative Meta. Spoiler

Hello My Friends, i want to share with you the second meta from this episode. I will put here a lot things I observed and is related to TFW and Chuck...

First of all please check my Destiel meta here, this one will be an addition.

Let's start with Dean.

Dean, the Hungry Beaver

Remember episode 14x11 (from Perez too), I wrote a mini meta spec here because that episode, damage goods, talked about two break ups... Donna's and Mary's. And when Dean was eating with Donna... Remember this place?

Thanks to Agus for these pics .. the hangry beaver, with the connotation that that means... He's the meat man, right? And this episode talked about being inside the closet, and quiting dreams... The beaver, forget about the pussy meaning, it represents that YOU HAVE TO WORK HARD FOR YOUR DREAMS., And this episode was talking about QUITING DREAMS.

Okay, now... Tonight's episode...

Dean was eating the whole episode, depressed, and drinking... But when he was talking with this guy dressed as a beaver in red (toxic Dean's behavior) he says to Sam after this... NEVER UNDERSTIMATE A MASKED MAN, HE CAN GET ALL THE CHEERLEADERS.

And who's the masked man? Who's hiding his true feeling here? His own depression to not making feel Sammy worse??? Yep. Dean Winchester is the masked man who can get any girl... But can't fight for his dream love, Castiel.

Dean is hangry for Castiel. Period.

Now... And because we are making a recalling to CARVER'S era... Remember the Angel song my friend @agusvedder mentioned in her meta? One little part of it talked about NEEDING A DISTRACTION TO FORGET ABOUT THE PAIN.

Okay... Episode 9x10 Road Trip... Gadreel had Sammy inside a dream, a distraction, they were investigating about a case that involved cheerleaders... And now, this case was about cheerleaders too. So I guess... Dean actually looked for a distraction for his brother and himself.

Dean was repeating to Sam but mostly to himself, the family business, and saving the world as their real mission. And because Chuck is gone... They were free now... TIME TO MOVE ON.

Okay Dean... But isn't vthose Castiel's words and excuse to leave you?

He started to name people that is gone, just likenCas, and then he repeated Castiel's quote... But Sam cut him off with I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN MOVE ON.

And Dean doesn't know it too... He's aware of that...

And then we had... Green girl, Dean mirror, saying goodbye to her best friend... And her best friend is dressed in red... Healing Dean in Toxic Dean funeral.

The girl in green says... I MISS HER, SHE WAS PART OF ME. SHE WAS BEAUTIFUL INSIDE AND OUTSIDE, PURE GOLD.

As I said in my previous meta, this is exactly what Dean is feeling for Castiel. And is a blatant mirror and everyone can see it.

And this too... My friend Agus Pointer me this girls was standing in front of blue chairs... Blue is Castiel.

And the Highschool name is Beaver. I love this show.

Okay, time to move on... To Sam.

Sam and his dreams

Remember Sammy dreaming about all the family reunited in the bunker in season 13?

This was a premonitory dream, but I don't want to believe what we had seen, and I think is related to the equalizer wound, was a foreshadow... For Psyquic!Demon!Sam... Killing everyone... No no no. I think it could be consequence of that weird wound...

But Sam is so so depressed, he's bringing back Jessica in the middle of his depression... And then... Loosing his faith, and tired of doing always the same work, same cases... He's not good...

And is very interesting what the young vampire said... I KILLED SOMEONE I LOVED, I'M A MONSTER. Isn't this what Sam is feeling right now? That he's a monster for killing Roweena? Knowing she made her own decisions, that doesn't mean it hurt less... That doesn't mean he doesn't feel like a monster...

We had also the recalling to Jack kneeled on the cemetery when Dean was about to kill him with the young vampire sacrificing himself.

Chuck vs Becky (fandom)

Becky is the active representation of a character development. She went from a Wincest shipper, to a TFW Stan.

She considers Castiel is vital for the dynamic in the show. Because when Sam and Dean are alone by themselves... Is always the same, as Sammy said in this episode.

So when she sees what Chuck wrote, she is condescend at first, but then she does constructive criticism. But Chuck is so full of himself, that he doesn't take it well. She mentioned he wasn't written Cas, as a very important fact.

He writes an ugly and dark ending, yelling fans are gonna love it. A gravestone with the Winchesters's name on it. But Becky, all of us, is horrified with it.

And Chuck says something very important, he says about the ending WE DON'T KNOW HOW ARE WE GOING TO GET THERE Z BUT WE WILL GET THERE.

And that's a good thing because we will always have the boys making his own choices. And Castiel, the rebellious, disobeying his Father... We're are making this out as we go. So I'm pretty sure the end will be written by our boys.

Chuck said PEOPLE LOVE MONSTERS (like an old idea about what this show should be, just two brother hinting monsters) but Becky has another refreshing idea THE BOYS HAVING A NORMAL LIFE ENJOYING THINGS. That's what fans want.

To Conclude:

This episode showed us a depressed Dean hiding his feelings because Sammy is in so bad shape.

Sam had this dream, premonition?, And I think is related to his weird wound.

Chuck is a bad writer, writing and MANIPULATING the boys. Becky was introduced here to represent again the fandom, the new fandom, TFW Stan.

Thanks to all of you! Kisses and hugs! See you around!

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Buenos Aires November 8th 2019 1:59 AM

Hello! From one bitter Cass stan (who used to be all TFW positive) to another, I too am scared. Because I can't shake the feeling that Castiel won't have that much involvement in the season's arc, if at all. I don't believe a word that comes out of Dabb's mouth because he's a known liar (queue s12). I'm just wondering how disappointed I will be 😞

hey! Okay I’ll do this under the cut because while I guess by now ppl who follow me know I’m not S13 positive, I want the ones who are to have a chance to be able to easily scroll past thisAlso warning: This got more bitter in tone than I expected, so if you want sb to give you some hope and positivity, turn away now! But since you came into my ask box I doubt you wished for that:P

(Just in general: if you wanna vent about the show, my message thingy is always open, turns out I’m not done venting yet either, and that way I can keep it mostly off my blog;) anyway, dude, I feel you. I had tentative hope at the beggining of S12 that with the new showrunner things are gonna change for the better, but honestly? I don’t trust Dabb anymore either. Don’t get me wrong, I still think he’s a good screen writer, but there are things that happened in S12 that I think if he really wanted the show to change he’d not have let them pass. I’m aware that Ross-Leming is married to Singer, and Singer has a lot say in things, and yeah I have no idea how the showrunning business works, but things like Sam/Toni? Couldn’t he have put his foot down on that one if he initially had other plans for her character? And 12x21 man, this time Dabb can’t hold his hands up in all innocence like he did after Charlie. Because he might not have written her death scene, but he’s the fucking showrunner. I doubt Bucklemming are authorized to decide getting rid of her on their own, so like. Yeah, I have a grudge against Dabb. I mean, on the one hand I think if Cas actually gets to have some introspection before he comes back, gets to talk with someone important (Chuck? Billie? himself?) in the Empty or wherever, that could be a real chance for him to overcome his depression and accept himself the way he is (’Are you an angel or a man?’ - ‘Neither. Both.’) (^which would be my ideal way for this to go as you probably already know:P).But on the other hand - argh, I get that they’re going this ‘accentuate his importance via the boys pining in his absence’ route - but good lord, haven’t they done this enough in S12? Haven’t they done this enough in S11 too? Back then I was so hopeful that it was gonna lead somewhere. I told myself, “Okay, Cas is practically gone for the second half of the season but it’s gonna be worth it in the end! At the season finale he’s gonna come back and he’s gonna have some major role to subvert all the things Amara and Ambriel said and what he himself believes about himself, because he’s gonna prove himself as a hero! He’ll reject Lucifer as a first step on the long way to get his self-worth back and show that he’s not someone who just ‘helps’ and that he’s far from ‘expendable’.” I told myself that the whole time - 12 EPISODES, he was gone for 12 EPISODES!! - that he was gonna come back with a bang and it was all gonna be worth it. Because I liked the Casifer arc goddammit, it had potential. Because, for me, this was the only logical way for this to go! But then, of course, he came back and basically just stood around while everyone else got to do a part (yeah, being insulted some more by his fellow angels does not count in my book, and neither does this terrible beer run conversation, don’t even get me started on that one) while everyone got a bit of a scene with Chuck. Everyone except the one who, you know, spent basically his whole character arc searching for God, playing God, losing his faith in God - nah, that’s apparently not of import to the writers  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯So you’ll excuse me if I don’t get my hopes up that Cas’ death in 12x23 is gonna actually lead to something this time. I’m not very interested in spending the first few episodes without Cas - “really feeling his absence” bc dude I’ve been feeling his absence all the damn time! They exlude him from scenes and episodes when it’s actually working against the plot and against all logic not to have him there (see 11x09), because the format for some reason demands Misha to be in X episodes and so he won’t be in more than X episodes.I mean, sure, the three Cas-centric episodes in S12 were honestly glorious! But that doesn’t change the fact that he was in less episodes than Mary or Crowley. Quality before Quantity, yes, but then please give me this quality in all of his episodes. I don’t know about you, but him going around interviewing a few ppl, ‘searching for a lead’, that’s not what I’d call quality. That’s not really all there is to hunting and Dabb promised more hunter!Cas in S12 didn’t he. Also is quantity and quality really so hard to pull off? I mean...?? As for his involvement in the next season - I don’t know man. I probably can’t say a lot about that, or shouldn’t, because I’ve run out of chances to give the writers so I’m not gonna keep watching. They did say he shared some ‘bond’ or whatever with Jack so he’s probably gonna have a role in the overall arc, but then I had similar thoughts during the Casifer arc so..At least, the bond’s not gonna be of a romantic kind since Jack is a boy, not a girl, so there won’t be sexual undertones there, although tbh I can’t bring myself to be interested in Jack and his story? Maybe I’d think differently if they’d handled things with Kelly differently.. A shame, really, because the nature vs nurture thing does make for an interesting subject. Anyway, I know it’s too early to judge, but I get the people who worry that this storyline will yet again be taken away from him and fall instead into Sam and Dean’s hands. Wouldn’t be the first time ya know. And like I said, I’m not the best person to talk to about this, bc I can’t seem to find this storyline all too appealing bc of the way they led up to it.. which normally wouldn’t bother me too much since the characters are still A+ and they can make up for any not-so-interesting plot points, but after Eileen, not even that is enough for me tbh.So yeah, you can tell I’m still high-key pissed at the writers. Hey, I watched 12x21, the whole abomination of an episode, I think I deserve to still be bitter. Sorry though.But on a lighter note: the Empty does have potential and we shouldn’t write it off before we - well you - see it (I’m sure I’ll look at gifsets of it^^). And there’s The Hug to look forward to which I’m sure won’t be downplayed if just because Misha and Jensen and Jared know their characters and they wouldn’t half-ass this important reunion.If you wanna give S13 a chance, I’d say don’t get your hopes up too much, but also don’t think the worst? Because having your hopes crushed sucks, but if you only expect the worst, you probably won’t be satisfied with anything. This is all the advice I can give if I put myself into a more neutral position for a minute^^.