some thoughts for the holly jackson fandom
so, some people have been wondering about when the agggtm show might be coming out and i've been thinking *deeply* about it. also, the universe is laughing at me, because i had an urge to check ig last night, and holly had posted a reel joking about everyone wanting to know when the trailer is coming out, which makes me think that she knows that everyone is (im)patiently waiting, but it might be still be a hot minute before we get anything. anyway, these are my thoughts. this is all speculation, with a little bit of logic, so don't take this as gospel
on the show's release
first things first: a couple of weeks ago, holly reposted a reel from one of the bbc accounts on her ig story where we got our first look at pip (she's in a dark room with lots of pink and blue led lights, i think this could be from the calamity party). this reel was a montage of clips, that you also see on tv that the bbc show during the holiday period to advertise shows coming out in the new year. from memory, these are usually for shows that are coming out in the first half of the year, so the show might come out in the spring, like april
why april? well, if you've read the book then you might remember that it all starts in april (the andie & sal case happens in april 2012), so if the show came out then, it would be a neat tie-in to the book
another reason why i think it could be april is because of another tv show: heartstopper
obviously, there are differences, hs is a netflix show, so is available to watch all over the world, agggtm is made by bbc so is only going to be available to watch in the uk (and i think also the us). it may become available to stream elsewhere later on, but that's another story
anyway, hs and agggtm are both ya book-to-tv show adaptations set in britain. hs had eight episodes per season with episodes being roughly 30 minutes each. agggtm is going to have six episodes, roughly 45 minutes each. so hs totals around 4 hours of content, agggtm will have 4 and a half hours of content in total. pretty similar
i did some further research (a lot of scrolling through instagram) to try and calculate when we might get some content. the hs ig account posted some stills on 1 march, just giving a first look at the main characters
on 16 march, they released some more stills, with some of the other characters, and also released the teaser trailer later that day
the full trailer came out 13 april, and the show came out april 22
sooooo, this is all speculation, and bbc will probably have different ideas from netflix to promote their show, but if the dates are similar and agggtm were to come out in late april like heartstopper (again, this would put it around the dates of the andie & sal case from the book), but i reckon we could maybe expect content to start dropping in march. we will see.
a final thought, which i'd forgotten earlier: if the show is successful, which i think it will be, then it would probably get renewed for a second season, then they'd want to film over the summer (the majority of events in ggbb happen in april/may, after the andie & sal memorial, which happens around the six-year anniversary of their deaths, which happened in, oh yeah, april)
some other thoughts:
holly posted on her ig grid a few days ago, mentioning stuff that will be happening this year, and i have a couple of ideas about that
her new book, the reappearance of rachel price is coming out on 2 april (this made me wonder if the show would come out later so that one isn't overshadowing the other, but the people deciding when a book is published and when a tv show comes out are going to be two different groups of people, and if i'm right with my guess, then start of the month and end of the month releases gives trorp enough time to get the hype it deserves)
book tour for trorp/holly doing appearances at book festivals this year. holly and her books are popular, and this popularity is probably going to increase after the show comes out, so i could see this being pretty likely
lastly, and there is no real evidence to suggest this, but it could happen: film adaptation of five survive. i'm not the first to say this, but it would be a great thriller, and as people have joked, would be pretty low-budget given that most of the action happens in an rv with just six people. if we do get this though, it would be probably be much later in the year
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Birthday Q&A (forgot to post this yesterday)
What’s your favorite series?
THG/ASOUE/AGGGTM
What’s your favorite genre?
My favorite genre would have to be Mystery/Crime/Murder Mystery/Detective/Thriller
How did you get into reading?
I guess because my parents read to me.
Fantasy or sci-fi?
I dont really read either but Fantasy.
How do you choose your next read?
Lately I have this list cause Im doing the popsugar challenge and ill do a number generator so that but also if I’m just scrolling through bookstagram and ill add a book to the list and do a random number generator to choose.
Reading outside or inside?
Inside most definitely.
Series or standalones?
Series, I like to see how the character’s lives ended. I’m invested.
Hardcover or paperback?
Hardcover maybe? Though I do love paperback books as well.
Where does your current read take place?
I’m reading The Sisterhood of The Traveling Pants which takes place in different places. Oia, Greece. Baja California, Mexico. South Carolina, and Bethesda, Maryland.
Favorite book-to-movie adaptations?
The Fault In Our Stars by John Green hands down which is funny cause I’ve only seen scenes from it.
Favorite Harry Potter character (/spell/class/pet, etc.)?
My favorite would have to be Fred & George probably or maybe Sirius. I don’t really know.
When did you join Bookstagram?
June 17.
What do you love about reading?
I love being able to be transported into another world, to live through the character to the point its like I am them. I love living their life, going on adventures I would never go on in real life. I like seeing the interactions, development, and overall life of characters. I like to develop relationships with them because you get to escape reality for just a little while.
Do you DNF books or read all the way through?
There are a few times, once or twice, that I DNFd a book which is ok. Maybe ill come back to it later and love it but it is ok to DNF a book.
Would you rather be a librarian or a bookseller?
Librarian. You get to interact/people watch. It’s peaceful, quiet. People are always coming back. You could witness so many things as well. The start of a friendship, a courtship,a family. The library tells stories. It welcomes all that enter to come back, to check out more books. It is also the safe haven for so many kids.
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What’s your reading goal for this year?
50 books which I am not pressuring myself to reach.
Do you reread books?
All the time.
Describe how you’re feeling in emojis.
😀🥳👍🤜✍️
Describe your current read in emojis.
👖➡️��+👦🏻[👴🏼👵🏼👧]➡️👧🏻💼 👧🏼📹➡️👧🏽 👨👩👧👦➡️➡👧🏼💘👦🏕️
What was your last five-star read?
100 Days of Sunlight by Abbie Emmons
What’s your favorite season?
Summer
What’s your favorite non fiction book?
Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson
Do you prefer tea or coffee?
Tea, I don’t like coffee.
Do you like music while reading or silence?
I like listening to music/sound but I also like to read in silence.
Do you prefer books with one POV or multiple POVs?
Multiple povs though one pov is still good because I like seeing what is going on in everyone’s heads.
What is the most quote worthy book?
Well a book I always quote is TFIOS. Book series is ASOUE.
Dream career?
I believe I want to major in English in college, so maybe something to do with that though idk. Not writing as full time though.
Your star sign?
Cancer
Favorite binge-worthy tv shows.
Favorite shows are Psych, Criminal Minds, SVU, and the netflix adaptation of ASOUE. Also HIMYM.
What song is stuck in your head?
Like My Father by Jax.
Favorite Disney Princess?
Tiana most definitely.
Favorite book to show adaptations?
The netflix adaptation of A Series of Unfortunate Events hands down.
If you owned a book shop what would you call it?
Bookish
Top Five OTPs?
Everlark- Katniss Everdeen + Peeta Mellark(THG)
Gaze?- Hazel Grace Lancaster + Augustus Waters(TFIOS)
Dunlet- Violet Baudelaire + Duncan Quagmire(ASOUE)
Kladora- Isadora Quagmire + Klaus Baudelaire(ASOUE)
Pavi/Rippa/Sarge?-Pippa Fitz-Amobi + Ravi Singh(AGGGTM)
A book series you deem terribly underrated?
The Lawless Trilogy by Jeffrey Salane. I’m on the 2nd book and they are awesome.
Do you own a library card? How much do you use it?
Yes. I don’t currently know where it is but yeah. I dont use it too often.
Do you buy bookish merch?
No.
Siblings?
Yes, I’m the youngest of 3 girls. A sister who is 16, 17 on Halloween(2 yrs older)(going to be in junior year of hs) and one who is 18, 19 in August(4 yrs older)(going to be in sophomore year of college)
If you have multiple instagram accounts what are they?
I have this bookstagram @bookishandthetea, my writing instagram @_thatsthetea.books_, and my character’s accounts, @nakhalacarter, @kamleyhernandezz @asaadsanchez and @mahlikwalkerr.
Did your middle school do reading levels? What was yours?
Yes they did and I was level Z+
What author/s do you love for writing their books but hate for the pain and heartbreak they caused you?
Suzanne Collins and John Green above all.
Do you write in your books?
No, but I may start.
A tv show(s) that you hate/ just really don’t like?
Attaway General, General Hospital, The Bachelor series
What are some of your favorite quotes?
“Grief does not change you, Hazel. It reveals you.”
“That’s the thing about pain, it demands to be felt.”
“Oh, I wouldn’t mind, Hazel Grace. It would be a privilege to have my heart broken by you.”
“As he read, I fell in love the way you fall asleep: slowly, and then all at once.”
“But the sad truth is that the truth is sad, and that what you want does not matter. A series of unfortunate events can happen to anyone, no matter what they want.
“The world is quiet here.”
“They're book addicts.”
“If we wait until we’re ready, we’ll be waiting for the rest of our lives.”
“Never been better.”
“Besides, no one has ever seen the light by being told there are darker places out there.”
“I love you and your broken wings.”
“The hard thing to do and the right thing to do are usually the same.”
“But sometimes remembering isn’t for yourself, sometimes you do it just to make someone else smile. Those lies were allowed.”
“Pip wished she was strong enough, but she’d learned that she wasn’t invincible; she too could break.”
“I'm not sure I'm the good girl i once thought i was . I've lost her along the way”
“I’ve already learned my lesson here: when you catch someone lying about a murdered girl, you go ask them why.”
Do you wear glasses?
Yes.
Do you love to write?
Yes.
What’s your favorite movie?
I don’t really watch movies but maybe the TFIOS movie and the barbie movies which are actually really good.
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as good as dead spoilers
this post has major spoilers for agad, don't look if you haven't read all three books
i don't know if this is the case for anyone else, but i guessed the identity of the dt killer before the big reveal in agad. before i go any further, this is not bragging, and there is a point to this post, so please have a read.
although i wasn't expecting pip to get kidnapped, i wasn't actually surprised by who it was. i'm not saying this as a brag, but i wanted to detail something that i noticed during my first read of agad, and that is actually relevant in the first book and that we will hopefully see in the show.
in agad, chapter twenty, pip looks at photos of andie's planner, and there is a paragraph mentioning the "full photo" which "showed more of andie's cluttered desk", and includes "a pale purple hairbrush" (agad, 198)
this isn't the first mention of a purple hairbrush in the book. in chapter thirteen, pip and ravi read an article from february 2012 about the dt killer, which mentions the trophies that he took, including "a lilac or light purple paddle-shaped hairbrush" (agad, 131-2)
it comes up again when pip is reading the interview transcript of billy karras in chapter fifteen. in the interview, the words "purple, light purple, lavender-ish" and "lilac" are all thrown around (agad, 161)
so when "andie's" hairbrush was mentioned in chapter twenty, and mentioned specifically as "pale purple", best believe my brain was latching on to that little detail. it seemed too coincidental to be a coincidence
after reading andie's email in chapter twenty-one, i felt pretty sure, and holly's misdirect (pip thinking that the dt killer was daniel da silva) didn't make sense in my brain, because it would have been weird for daniel to give andie a hairbrush, but andie receiving a hairbrush from her dad, less so
again, this is not bragging. in chapter twenty-seven, after jason is revealed to be the dt killer, pip makes the connection: "the purple paddle hairbrush on andie's desk [...] it had belonged to melissa denny, jason's second victim" (agad, 262) the signs were there before the reveal, other readers have also probably put this together
anyway, that was a lot of words, but there was a point to this
the photos of andie's planner come from when pip and ravi break into the bells' family home in agggtm
"on top of the make-up case was a paddle hairbrush with long blonde hairs still wound round the bristles. beside it, pip spotted a kilton grammar academic planner" (agggtm, 223)
so yeah. pip and ravi. doing a spot of b&e. in the first book of the agggtm trilogy. which has been adapted for a tv show.
all this to say, if we get the purple hairbrush in the background of pip taking photos of andie's planner, i will go INSANE.
edit: if you've read this far, would love to know if you picked up on the purple hairbrush hints in agad, and also the likelihood of it appearing in the tv show
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