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teadrawstuff · 4 months

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Finally reading Dangerous Secrets by @marimancusi and it’s getting me back into the Agduna brainrot 😭😭 (featuring old art from 2019)

#my art #agduna #queen iduna #king agnarr #frozen #frozen 2 #frozen dangerous secrets #dangerous secrets

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saanea · 23 days

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kristanna-days · 3 months

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Frozen Smut Week March 17 - 21, 2024

Save the date and start drafting your Frozen smut! Each fic must contain at least one Frozen character (crossovers are allowed!), and be posted on Tumblr, tagging @kristanna-days. An AO3 collection will also be set up - details to follow.

I've given some suggested prompts for each theme, but feel free to interpret the themes however you want! There's no limit to how they can be used.

Feed my ask box or DM me if you have any questions!

[March 17: Lustrous Metals (Gold, Silver, Titanium, Platinum) March 18: Crystaline Metals (Silicon, Tin, Lead, Carbon) March 19: Metal Alloys (Steel, Pewter, Mercury) March 20: Patina & Rust (Copper, Brass, Bronze) March 21: Electricity & Magnetism (Iron, Nickel, Cobalt)]

#frozen #frozen fanfic #frozen smut week #kristanna days #frozen smut week 2024 #kristanna #helsa #hansanna #rydoff #elsamaren #elsanna #agduna #svolaf #kristelsa #jelsa

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ericmicael · 14 days

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If ElsaMaren canonizes in "Frozen 3/4" we will confirm that the royal family of Arendelle has a very specific type.

Which makes it a bit ironic considering the hatred Runeard felt for these types of people in the past, and now all of his descendants have gone down the opposite path that he did.

#frozen #frozen 2 #frozen 3 #frozen 4 #elsamaren #kristanna #agduna #elsa #honeymaren #anna #kristoff #iduna #agnarr

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virtual-winter · 2 months

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A perfect night by Mari Mancusi - 3 year(ish) anniversary!

Oops! Looks like I had a slight calendar-malfunction 😆

The Agduna (Agnarr x Iduna) centered short story "A perfect night" was released for free by Mari on February 10th, 2021 on nerdist.com and this was the 1-year-anniversary edition I put together in 2022!

Some of the illustrations/screencaps were provided by the fantastic @shade74

#frozen #frozen 2 #disney frozen #frozen fandom #frozen 10 #frozen a perfect night #a perfect night #frozen books #frozen short story #mari mancusi #iduna #agnarr #anna #elsa #agduna #fan edit #frozen edit

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greatqueenanna · 5 months

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I think the biggest reason for Agnar and Iduna’s failure in handing Elsa’s magic, is that they were so concerned with the direct result of the accident that they neglected their daughters emotional states in the aftermath of the accident. Elsa need emotional comfort that her powers didn’t make her a monster. Anna may have been five, but anything would have been better then leaving her in the dark to think that her sister hated her. And to be clear, I don’t hate their parents. This just came up.

For the most part, I agree. Iduna and Agnarr's choices were extreme because of their fears and they forgot to take care of their daughter's emotional states and better nurture them.

But I also feel that there are still some things to consider here.

Iduna and Agnarr had no knowledge of what Elsa's magic is meant to be or represent. They didn't know where Elsa's magic came from, if they were good or bad, or how Elsa is supposed to control them - or that she even needed to control them in the first place.

As far as they were concerned, Elsa was able to control them just fine and played freely with Anna with no issues. This was just something unique that Elsa was born with and could be easily pursued and studied when the time came for it. No urgency here.

Then Anna got hurt, completely by accident, and almost died.

These mysterious powers, once thought to be just a unique trait, were now shown to be capable of causing serious harm. Now there is a huge urgency to better understand these powers. However, there were no answers - only uncertainties.

Who/what gave Elsa this magic, and why?

What is the purpose of this magic?

Will the magic hurt Anna again?

Will Anna's condition progress again if she sees the magic?

Will the magic hurt someone else this time?

Was the magic capable of hurting Elsa herself?

What would the kingdom think?

Will the kingdom come after Elsa to hurt her?

Will the Kingdom deny her the right to rule?

Would another Kingdom try to attack Arendelle?

Uncertainty leads to fear, and fear leads to bad choices.

Now, I'm not saying "You can't criticize Agnarr and Iduna or want more accountability for their choices." Far from it.

I personally still want closure for the past and hope they finally just let Anna and Elsa talk about it without any subtleties. After all, it was the choices of the parents that led to Anna and Elsa's more serious flaws and its about time to just let the conversation happen. You don't have to paint the parents in a bad light to do this, since they did recognize that what they were doing wasn't working, and died in their attempt to make it right - which is very commendable and heartbreaking. But it also wouldn't hurt the narrative at all by just letting the conversation finally happen.

TLDR - Its easy for us on the outside to say- "Did the parents seriously think that by isolating Elsa and teaching her to hide a part of herself was going to end well, and not add to her trauma of hurting Anna while damaging her self-esteem?" when we know how to control the magic, and what Elsa's magic is meant to be. Actually being in this situation, however, is a completely different story, and there was a lot that Agnarr and Iduna had to consider, including both of their daughter's safety as well as the safety and security of Arendelle itself, as was their responsibility as rulers.

#frozen #frozen 2 #Agduna #King Agnarr #Queen Iduna #greatqueenanna/responses

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true--north · 3 months

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#frozen 2 #agduna #pocahontas #ariel #disney edit #frozen edit #mine #disney princesses

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karma26 · 1 year

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Happy Valentine's Day 🌷❤️

#frozen #frozen 2 #agduna #kristanna #valentine

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fericita-s · 9 months

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#agduna #mari mancusi #!!!!!!#very excited for this #something new for my annual reread of #Dangerous Secrets #assuming it's Anna's coronation?#with flashbacks to Agnarr's?

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saaneaart · 2 months

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🪻🍂🍁

13.03.2024

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frozen10fanzine · 5 months

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Agnarr didn’t expect THAT

#frozen 2 #frozen #frozen10 #agduna #water has memory #fandom projects #frozen fandom

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saanea · 1 month

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kristanna-days · 5 months

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Frozen Smut Week March 17 - 21, 2024

Save the date and start drafting your Frozen smut! Each fic must contain at least one Frozen character (crossovers are allowed!), and be posted on Tumblr, tagging @kristanna-days. An AO3 collection will also be set up - details to follow.

I've given some suggested prompts for each theme, but feel free to interpret the themes however you want! There's no limit to how they can be used.

Feed my ask box or DM me if you have any questions!

[March 17: Lustrous Metals (Gold, Silver, Titanium, Platinum) March 18: Crystaline Metals (Silicon, Tin, Lead, Carbon) March 19: Metal Alloys (Steel, Pewter, Mercury) March 20: Patina & Rust (Copper, Brass, Bronze) March 21: Electricity & Magnetism (Iron, Nickel, Cobalt)]

#frozen #frozen fanfic #frozen smut week #kristanna days #kristanna #hansanna #elsamaren #helsa #elsanna #jelsa #kristhanna #kristelsa #agduna #rydoff #svolaf #elsa #anna #kristoff #hans

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ericmicael · 7 months

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I sometimes see this being debated in the fandom, but seriously, thinking about the franchise's plot, does anyone really think it's a good idea for Agnarr and Iduna to come back to life in F3?

For me, this is one of the ideas that is practically impossible to happen, just like "Frozen 3" becoming "Star Wars 9" to please those who didn't like "Frozen 2", but I decided to talk about it.

My personal opinion is that they should be of almost no importance. I don't want F3 to be once again Anna and Elsa dealing with their family's legacy as it was more or less in F2 and F1 if you push it a little, but rather about the legacy itself that the sisters built.

So imagine what I think about characters established as dead coming back to life? I don't even like the idea of Kristoff's parents returning and we don't even have two plot lines about them, imagine the sisters' parents.

If I were the writer of “Frozen 3”, the most we would have of Agduna besides the obligatory flashback scene with her daughters, would be the sisters using their parents’ memories to advise each other. Elsa can bring back memories with her magic and Ahtohallan's help, have the Snow Queen do it a few times to use them as examples and/or have a nice family moment and that's it. But leave the two dead and their problems in the past, for that we have Mari Mancusi who loves writing about the couple.

#frozen 3 #frozen 2 #agduna #king agnarr #queen iduna

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bad-at-names-and-faces · 5 months

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December 2023 drabble weekend drabbles

Last but not least, the 20+ fanfic server monthly drabble prompt, "snowed in" with Agnarr/Iduna from Frozen...

Iduna looked out the library window at the darkening sky.

“It’s getting late, Your Majesty, I should be going,” she said to the young king.

“Iduna, could you please stop calling me that?”

“I’m sorry… Agnarr,” she said.

“Don’t be sorry,” he said, then smiled. “Besides, it’s still snowing, and I don’t think it would be safe for you to go out in this weather. There’s a warm fire here. I can find you any book you like, just ask.”

“If you insist,” she smiled. “Perhaps a ghost story if we’re going to be snowed in?”

“Here’s a good one!”

#100 word drabble #frozen fanfic #agduna

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greatqueenanna · 11 months

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I don't know if you've covered this yet, but could you please talk about Agnarr and Iduna's relationship to the girls and how they handled the separation/maybe your ideas of how they explained it to Anna and kept the secret? BTW, I LOVE your content! As a HUGE Frozie who adores the lore and Canon I feel like we'd be besties!!

Aww, thank you! It's always nice to meet fellow Frozen nerds. If you're interested, let me throw in some posts here from Arendelle Archives that go into Frozen Lore and books -

Annals of Frozen by saiten-gefroren

The Frozenverse by Winter Loves Summer

I've talked a bit about Agnarr and Iduna in the past. I had a two-part series on their choices and reasoning for the separation - Toughest Choices Part 1 and Toughest Choices Part 2. The only thing is that they're a bit old, so there might be some outdated info here and there. I've also written about Agnarr specifically on Fatherly Burdens - it is a bit more critical than my usual content though, but it's not inherently negative - I am still a big supporter of the parents.

Now, let's tackle all of your questions here; Sorry, it's gonna be a bit long haha.

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Talk about Agnarr and Iduna's relationship to the girls.

From what we've seen in the films alone, in spite of everything, it seems that Anna and Elsa have a positive relationship with their parents. Anna runs and hugs them before they leave and builds a statue in their honor. Elsa never really blames them for what happened in her childhood and wanted to see what happened to them on the ship. Both girls mourn them heavily, and from the little interaction we've seen, they have a very loving relationship.

I know that many fans feel that there wasn't enough accountability held towards the parents, and there was a huge shift of blame toward Elsa rather than acknowledging how the parent's choices affected the girls. This is a flaw I've noticed as well. I do however love how Anna says in F2 "You are not responsible for their choices, Elsa." It gives the impression that the girls do realize that they are not responsible for what their parents chose to do, and even though it is small, it's a nice shout-out.

If you consider them canon, there's a bit of side content that goes into a lot more detail about these topics, particularly Forest of Shadows, Polar Nights, Dangerous Secrets, and True Treasure. These side stories push for more accountability for the parents, have the sisters talk about the separation slightly, and offer more explanations of the thought process of the parents.

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How they handled the separation.

As I write about in my analyses, my overall view on the separation is that Agnarr and Iduna handled Elsa's magic the best they could. They were faced with an impossible situation with very little knowledge - the only information they had was the trolls vaguely telling them that Elsa could be hurt if she can't control her powers.

Another thing we have to take into consideration is that no matter how we spin it, Elsa's magic is dangerous. Many fans tend to relate Elsa's magic to real-life emotional, physical, mental, and intellectual attributes. I think this is where a lot of the disdain for the parents comes in - they want the narrative to treat the parents as though they are parents of a child who had an attribute that was not accepted by their society so they decided to keep her hidden. However, Elsa's magic is a physical manifestation that can and has hurt people and can't really be compared to real-life attributes. Thus, we can't hold Agnarr and Iduna to this same standard.

So basically, the parents were faced with a double-edged sword. Either place Elsa in a controlled environment so that they can try and figure out how Elsa's magic works - which leads to isolation and self-hatred. Or, let Elsa go on as before like nothing happened and the parents are just more vigilant - but now Elsa has trauma from hurting Anna and is more on edge, leading to another accident because her powers are tied to her emotions, risking her powers being revealed.

Neither option is ideal and leads to problems with Elsa's psyche and safety, but the first option at least gives a bit more freedom for the parents to try and figure out a better solution - and they did figure out a better solution, but they died trying to reach it. Overall, the story of the parents is very difficult and tragic, and no easier solutions are available because of the uniqueness of the situation.

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Your ideas of how they explained it to Anna and kept the secret?

This is actually interesting.

Anna tends to place a lot of the blame for the separation on Elsa and also pushes Elsa specifically to stop keeping secrets from her. Many of the books also push that Elsa specifically kept her door closed and hid away, and the only thing we see in True Treasure is Iduna pushing for Anna to have faith that she and Elsa will be together again.

So it seems that maybe the parents...didn't really address it directly? I haven't really seen anything (unless I missed it) where the parents sit down and explain to Anna what's going on...which I guess makes sense with Anna's comment about how Elsa shut her out, and she never knew why. In fact, this sort of explains why the narrative tends to focus on Anna blaming Elsa for the separation - if the parents never addressed Elsa's behavior, then yea, Anna would think that Elsa was the issue.

In terms of my own ideas, I would think that they told Anna some kind of excuse like "Elsa's not feeling well." or "Elsa is studying and is really busy." I also wonder a lot about what excuse they had for closing the gates. "Your father works better without distractions." or maybe "We're working on an issue right now and can't have outside people snooping in."

I'm now going to be pondering the logic here for a long time - thank you haha.

#greatqueenanna/responses #agduna #agnarr #iduna #elsa #anna #frozen 2 #frozen

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