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saw the bookclub’s reached vol 10 so i’m joining in on the sorrows :,)
#trigun#trigun maximum#trigun maximum spoilers#trigun spoilers#freaked myself out again over posting art so. exposure therapy time. gonna make an effort to share more stuff#trigunbookclub#(tag fixed for the club! ty!!)#? technically?? i haven’t been properly participating but it’s fun to read everyone’s thoughts!
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(CW for SA, suicidal ideation) Here we go. My favorite and simultaneously least favorite panel of Vash and Knives.
I've seen a few interpretations of this scene and before we dive into the one that really struck me, let's start with the more... chill one. We're finally introduced to the third gun of Trigun, Vash's angel arm. And the way we're introduced to it involves Knives forcing him to pull the trigger. Of course, since no one knows anything about Knives, the people of Noman's Land blame Vash for Fifth Moon, and Vash likewise blames himself (this is kinda a spoiler but if you've been paying attention, it's just par for the course). However, he's not the one who pulled the trigger, Knives is. It brings up an interesting moral question of blame - do we blame the gun (and Vash, who is being used/objectified as a weapon here), or the person who wanted it to happen? Guns don't kill people, genocidal twins do!
Now for the awful interpretation, the one that makes me cry and wish Vash was real so I could hug him and pay for his therapy. And really highlights how awful Knives is and how far he'd go for his brother in his own, fucked-up way. I touched on this in a previous post about Legato and the Murder Cafe, and the whole time I was thinking about Fifth Moon but didn't want to say anything for the sake of spoilers.
So. Pay attention to the way Vash and Knives are standing. Knives, when he first grabbed Vash's head, was standing in front of him. He moves behind him to better control him and yeah, he's still controlling him via hand on head, and now he's got his other hand gripping Vash's chest, where feathers/wings are manifesting. Knives is assaulting him. If you wanna get crazy with it and say that the angel arm is kinda phallic, you could say... yeah. This is rape. I heard that specific interpretation once and while I accepted it I also don't know if that would be generally accepted or if I'd be called out for it, so I'm trying to tread lightly here.
It also doesn't escape me that of course the angel arm has feminine features like the plants - the plants that, again, humans are exploiting for their ability to create. There's a lot of feminist commentary to be made here but many people have said it better than me. Specifically I'm thinking of this one post I saw about gender fuckery and Tristamp Vash. Anyway.
Also, the atomic bomb/black hole/sun/whatever that is in the middle... It's just so powerful. It's terrifying. The eldritch body horror here is a punch to the gut. What the fuck, Trigun? I thought this was a funky space western!!!
Oh, and here's more commentary on the following few panels:
Vashussy shot, Knives is still right behind him. Yeah, I wasn't kidding about how bad this pose is for them. Knives, you sick fuck.
Vash shoots himself in the leg (a key difference from '98 trigun, lol), because of course he does, but it doesn't free him from the arm.
The arm's getting darker/the light inside is getting lighter! Stampede did an awesome job with their interpretation of the angel arm and I don't think I would have understood it without that. Also, on my first read I didn't notice that Vash is literally levitating, which is cool, but also terrifying because ?? he's not in control of that either??
Finally. A super painful, minimalist, double-page spread. Nightow loves 'em. Vash thinks he's dying (maybe?) and he wishes he had never existed. It's not suicidal ideation per se, but he wishes he didn't exist at all because he's already caused enough suffering. This is a low for him, because he believes so strongly in the concept of the Blank Ticket. (Come on, soupy brain bitch boy, get it together!) He's a monster, it's just how he was born, and he's not in control. Very specifically too, he says "we", and then changes it to "I"... he doesn't blame Knives at all, and that's very him. I want to shake him! Stop playing the martyr, Vash!
#trimax#trigunbookclub#cw assault#cw sa#ive never tagged content warnings before please help if i didnt do it well enough#cw sui ideation#vash the stampede#millions knives#also if you say ONE WORD about plancest i will kill you with my mind because you have sorely misunderstood the point here#posting this makes me so nervous ngl#dont hate me
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they've known each other for half a chapter and they're already standing back to back! nightow what fresh hell is this!!!
#trigun#trigunbookclub#vash the stampede#nicholas d. wolfwood#myde reads trigun#NIGHTOW I AM SHOUTING WHAT WERE YOU THINKING#ITS ONLY BEEN A FEW HOURS IN UNIVERSE#good GOD man#im fully prepared to believe Vash knows Wolfwood better than Nightow at this point#also ive already finished the volume via dark horse i just needed to reread the last couple chapters of the overhaul project#before i start trimax i mean
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I'm sorry, but every time I see this pic
I can't help but think of this pic
#trigun#trigunbookclub#bugs bunny#is there a meme pic that is directly from this trigun pic#it's burned into my mind but I can't seem to find it#and I might just be thinking of this one but idk
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I think chapter 2 of TriMax Volume 6 might just be my favorite thus far. Everything in it hinges on this one iconic scene.
This isn't the first time Wolfwood has pointed a gun at Vash's head. Maybe it won't even be the last. But it holds a bit more weight here because just a few pages ago, we saw a flashback where Wolfwood pointed his gun at someone else's head.
His hand shakes as he aims at Knives. His breath is heavy, and the memory of the Fifth Moon incident is fresh in his mind. He knows if he can just pull the trigger, he can end it here. This being of destruction will be gone, and maybe this time his fancy scientists won't be able to bring him back.
But then Knives does Plant things, and under the weight of it Wolfwood finds he just can't follow through. He fears his own death too much, and Knives will surely kill him.
When he points his gun at Vash, it's different. His hand is steady, his breath calm. The memory of everything that happened at the Dragon's Nest is fresh in his mind; just this morning he warned Meryl that she and Milly should remember that, despite his ideals, Vash is still a loose cannon that they'd do well to avoid. He thinks to himself that if he can just pull the trigger, if he can just take out the less intimidating of the brothers, then one of these monstrous twins and half of the problem will be gone.
This time, there's no crushing sensation of oppression. There's no air of fear and malice. There are no threats or memories of twisted promises. There's only a look, wary and concerned...
...but even by the time this happens, Wolfwood has already lowered his gun. He's decided not to pull the trigger, not because of an immediate threat on his life, but because... well, it's Vash.
Wolfwood surely knows that if he pulls that trigger, he catastrophically fails his mission, and whatever consequences might await him on the far side of such a failure aren't going to be anywhere near pleasant. But it doesn't seem like it's fear of Knives that makes him lower his gun. At the very, very least, Wolfwood knows no one stands a better chance at taking down Knives, but he also knows Vash. He's seen Vash's fake smiles and knows his real ones. He understands Vash's ideals despite very much not wanting to and not knowing how he could possibly accept them for himself. He's fought side by side with Vash, and been standing at his back since day 1.
And before this night is out, only a few minutes after pulling a gun on Vash, Wolfwood's right back there again, moving in tandem with Vash, being a human shield so they can accomplish Vash's goals together.
It's only when the fight comes to a close that Wolfwood realizes that's what he's been doing. He didn't put any thought into falling in step behind Vash, didn't dwell on the fact that Vash trusted and moved with him during the fight. It's only afterwards, when they stop to catch their breath, that he realizes Vash hasn't looked his way through the whole battle. That Vash didn't need to look his way through the whole battle.
Not only did Vash trust Wolfwood at his back, but he knows Wolfwood well enough to move intuitively around him, not hesitating and always understanding what Wolfwood's about to do. And at that moment, Wolfwood realizes two things:
First, that there's no way Vash didn't notice when Wolfwood pointed a gun at him. If Knives could figure it out while half dead and barely knowing Wolfwood, then Vash, who's awake, alert, and has spent plenty of time with Wolfwood, can surely figure it out.
And second, that when he's fighting back to back with Vash, nothing else really matters. All his (quite legitimate) fears about what Vash is and how dangerous he can be, about Knives, about finishing his job, about what he himself has become... they all melt away. He's where he needs to be, where he should be, and that's all there is to it.
#vash the stampede#nicholas d. wolfwood#vashwood#(you don't have to ship them to see the connection between them here)#trigunbookclub#trigun maximum#volume 6#manga spoilers#manga analysis#character analysis#pancake thoughts
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The chapter with Wolfwood's name on it: unlucky number four. Oof. Nightow really said I'm going to make a guy and throw all of the death associations at him.
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One more day until @trigunbookclub
#Trigun#TrigunBookclub#Trigun Maximum#Trimax#I'm breaking out both my read Trimax memes I have on hand for this post
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There’s something to be said about how this illustrates the core of who Wolfwood really is, about how much he cares despite everything, in how he pegs Vash just as fast as Milly--if not even faster.
#Trigun#TrigunBookclub#Who's gonna make the first pegging joke come on now#I didn't realize unti I was tagging this but I left myself wide open#Anyway I want to ramble about this in a spoilery way SO BADLY#But something something shared trauma something something#Essentially#Also everyone else has talked about it#BUT VASH IS SO PRETTY HERE
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We made a lot of banners for the 1.0 Overhaul releases, but personally, my favorites are the flat black background ones. So here you go, Bookclub, and congrats on finishing the manga!
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Hi i have an actual Thing i want to write about the fights in volume 3 bc i like them but im very busy this weeked so, for now. Take this
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i'm coping
#trigunbookclub#<- this is for you guys#trigun#trigun maximum#nicholas d. wolfwood#vash the stampede#vashwood#trigun fanart#was having my doubts but i saw ppl talking about the wedding imagery and i was like okay now i HAVE to finish this#i considered making angelina ww's pfp but i didn't want to draw her. sorry. ik it would've been funny#meme tag#my art#artists on tumblr#if you're thinking 'oh?! this is someone new in the book club tag?!" no it's me june. this is just my sideblog. hi#trigun spoilers#trimax spoilers
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Mood board for when the gang is experiencing The Horrors
#trigunbookclub#been thinking about these panels a lot lately oop#vash the stampede#meryl stryfe#nicolas d wolfwood#does this count as mashwood?
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[ID: A Trigun Maximum panel of Vash with a troubled expression looking at Wolfwood. Wolfwood is forcing Vash to point a gun at his head. Vash says “I see a man forcing himself to play the devil while his heart cries out.” END ID]
No analysis or anything - I just wanted to share that this line still floors me, even on my second read through. I remember he first time I read Trimax, THIS was the panel that stood out to me the most from the whole “SHOOT” scene. This was my first “holy shit” moment in the manga tbh. I couldn’t handle how Vash was able to completely see through Wolfwood, how honest he was, and how the truth is so fucking painful. Every time I read this line I imagine Wolfwood crying out silently with tears streaming down his face. Trying to make a sound, but unable to. Begging for anybody to hear him, help him, and free him from his burden. We’ve seen some of Wolfwood’s hesitations already at the end of Trigun, when he gathers with the Gung-Ho Guns prior to the Fifth Moon Incident. We, as the readers, know that he’s struggling with what he’s done as a killer and what he believes he must continue to do. But to have to have it acknowledged here by someone other than himself... idk LOL I just love this line. It made me feel for Nicholas so much.
#tbh part of why this line floored me so much too was because i thought Vash had pullthe use of devil out of nowhere#but thanks to op in my prev reblog#it finally clicked that Wolfwood was referring to himself as the devil earlier#so i think it hits a little less now#but i still love this line#trigun#trigunbookclub#*my trigun#*my post
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Trigun in "Year in Review"
Ships
Anime & Manga
Web Celebs
#love to see Trigun getting much attention!#also love seeing that Bigolas Dickolas got recognition as well#id like to think that the trimax bookclub helped out some bit#bigolas dickolas wolfwood#trigun#trimax#trigun stampede#trigunbookclub#year in review#year in review 2023
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On my Vol 10 reread, this panel stood out to me:
There's nothing inherently weird about it to make it stand out. Other than it comes VERY shortly after Vash realizes Wolfwood is dying.
THIS is something I see get glossed over in favor of fanon characterizations of Vash that are all "love and peace 100% of the time".
Vash is ANGRY.
He's fucking furious. And it's only his willpower, and Wolfwood's love for his brother, that stop him from going ape shit.
There is so much seething rage underneath Vash that he hides behind the mask of pacifism. We see it mostly in the TriMax depiction, and only briefly in 98 or Stampede. But Vash is all about controlling himself. He can't control his body. He can't control his situation. But he can control his anger.
We see him angry a few times throughout the manga but this is where I seriously questioned whether he would break his vow and kill someone on my first read-through.
Would he kill for Nicholas D. Wolfwood? An assassin who converted to Vash's ideals AND IS NOW DYING FOR THEM because Wolfwood is trying to save Livio, not kill him. A man who he clearly loved. Wolfwood MATTERED to Vash more than almost anyone else in his life.
And Vash's ideals helped kill him.
Is the anger towards just Razlo? Or to himself as well?
#trigun maximum#trimax spoilers#trimax#trigun#trigunbookclub#maybe the seething underlying rage is somewhat projection on my part#but like... i relate#it was trimax that made me realize how much I related to vash as a whole because he's not as single-noted as the other renditions#even though those have nuance too
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Oh!! Oh!!!! His rib-tube things are functional! They have spare ammo!!!! More extremely important details I completely missed before now!!!
#trigun#trigunbookclub#vash the stampede#trigun maximum#trimax volume 7#trimax spoilers#trigun spoilers
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