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beardedbarba · 1 year
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the more time passes, the more i dislike bob russell
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ginandweas · 2 years
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Just when I think I’ve getting over my west wing obsession phase and I start watching ER (which, yes, i did start watching because of its tangential relation but we’re not talking about that) only to see janel maloney and bradley whitford show up within 2 episodes of each other in the first season and find myself aghast by the coincidence as if it means anything at all
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onekisstotakewithme · 27 days
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🎬One of your fics gets turned into a TV series. Which one is it and what network is it on?
BEGGING NBC to air my sequel to TWW, aka CJ runs for President.
Aside from the fact I have to finish writing it first.
CJ's campaign... Danny, the kiddo... the high-stakes election... plus a broken bed for good measure. 😉
(The fic is here. Yes I have to finish it.)
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rahleeyah · 2 years
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I’m so obsessed with 90s television. Why can’t any new shows be as good as 90s tv?! Obviously SVU which still feels very 90s even though a lot of it is the early 2000. Then I had that ER obsession for awhile. West Wing has always been one of my favorite shows. I just started the X Files yesterday and I think I’m gonna love this one too!
ok no but you're so valid lmao bc those three shows you just named are so iconic and they are so good. and they hold up imo. there's something...idk i don't wanna say dignified bc ER had some bonkers moments (and is the reason why to this day my sister and i don't buy wire hangers) and the x-files is the most bonkers but like. what does nbc have now that's comparable in tone and quality to tww or ER? like really? where is the groundbreaking network tv? like the shows that reshape the national conversations, those aren't happening on cbs and nbc these days tbh. svu is a legacy series, what other powerhouses do they have? it's probably worth pointing out that these shows came near the end of the watercooler tv era; when we had fewer choices for tv - bc now with all the streaming and subscription channels and increased access to international shows there is a glut of tv tbh - more of us were watching and experiencing the same things, and i'd say with the exception of game thrones we haven't had anything that is quite as big as tv shows used to be. like friends, everybody was watching fucking friends, everybody had an opinion about it. now we're spread much more thinly, and your friends and coworkers may or may not be watching the same shows. i've got a hopper funko pop on my desk, only two other people in my whole office even know who he is. so there's also a degree of nostalgia to it, for me, these shows were so deeply rooted in the zeitgeist and everything feels a little more untethered, now.
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twwpress · 2 years
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Briefing #6 - July 31 - August 6
Welcome back to the Weekly Press Briefing, where we bring you highlights from The West Wing fandom each week, including new fics, ongoing challenges, and more! This briefing covers all things posted from July 31 - August 6, 2022. Did we miss something? Let us know; you can find our contact info at the bottom of this briefing!
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The August 20 prompts in 20 days are up on Tumblr.
 Photos/Videos:
This week in TWW photos and videos! (And what a week it was – Happy Birthday, Martin Sheen!) Here’s what was posted from July 31 - August 6.
Melissa Fitzgerald posted a photo of Martin Sheen and a dog along with a birthday wish.
Richard Schiff posted a photo with Martin Sheen along with a birthday wish.
Bradley Whitford posted a photo with Martin Sheen along with a birthday wish.
Donna Moss Daily: July 31 | August 1 | August 2 | August 3 | August 4 | August 5 | August 6
Daily Josh Lyman: July 31 | August 1 | August 2 | August 3 | August 4 | August 5 | August 6
No Context BWhit: July 31 | July 31 | August 1 | August 1 | August 2 | August 2 | August 3 | August 3 | August 4 | August 5 | August 5 | August 6 | August 6
@JanelMilfoney (formerly known as @RareJanel): July 31 | August 1 | August 2 | August 2 | August 2 | August 3 | August 4 | August 5
@BradleyBrainrot: August 2 | August 3 | August 6
@TheFinestMuffin: August 2 | August 2 | August 2 | August 2 | August 3 | August 4 | August 4 | August 5 | August 5 
@sinistercherubs: August 1 | August 1
@JessBakesCakes: August 4
Edits/Artwork:
Here’s where we’ll share all the photo edits, videos, and other artwork in the fandom this week!
& i'm split in half but that'll have to do by EditsByLu [VIDEO]
baby, i’m forever yours by sinistercherubs [VIDEO]
#THEWESTWING: an upbeat, optimistic political show by morealeslyman [VIDEO]
country Josh/Donna (inspired by the country AU by mikaylawrites) by sam_writes_fics [ARTWORK]
Jed’s Birthday Instagram AU by kennysroys [PHOTO EDIT]
West Wing Group Texts by kennysroys [PHOTO EDIT]
tww tweets: August 3 [1] | August 3 [2] | August 3 [3] | August 3 [4] |
 Miscellaneous:
@TheFinestMuffin posted a thread about Janel Moloney’s appearance in the movie To Save a Child
The Bradley Whitford episode of Who Do You Think You Are? will premiere on NBC on Sunday, August 7 at 7 pm Eastern time and will be available to stream on Peacock starting Monday July, 8. Watch the promo clip here. 
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Editor’s Choice:
It’s a new month, and on the very first day Taylor Swift’s “August” skyrocketed back into #11 on the global charts. TWW fandom 🤝 Taylor Swift songs, just generally, so we thought we’d celebrate the advent of unofficial-international-listen-to-folklore month with some of our favorite tswift songfics and fics with lyric titles from Taylor’s songs. There was simply no way for us to catch them all, so please hit us up/reblog with favorites we missed!
death by folklore by slightlyraspberry (Series) | Rated G - T | Multiple Pairings | Complete | 
a collection of 5 (mostly unconnected) West Wing fics, each inspired by a song (or songs) on Taylor Swift's folklore.
what a shame you weren't mine by park_all_covered_with_cheese | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Sam Seaborn | Complete | Sam Seaborn loves Josh Lyman. And Josh Lyman loves Sam Seaborn. Just not quite as much.josh's problem is that he runs away from everything that's good for him (those of us who have watched noel or really any episode of the show are aware of this). that in mind they are very much perfect for each other except that josh refuses to believe he deserves love and that breaks Sam's heart more than the "no". inspired (obviously) by taylor swift, because who else would it be, honestly.
nothing safe is worth the drive by JessBakesCakes for sam_writes_fics | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | She’d always thought the moment would be more magical than this. Something more poetic, a story to tell her grandchildren someday. But instead, her feet are aching and she’s wearing a charcoal pantsuit and a pink blouse, and it’s just before midnight in a noisy, overcrowded hotel room in New Hampshire that Donna Moss realizes she’s in love with Josh Lyman.
there we are again (when i loved you so) by hanyolo | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | “Did you have a last assistant?” She asks, one eyebrow arched and lips quirked up at the side.
“Nope.” He shrugs nonchalantly as he takes a sip of coffee, his eyes scanning the traffic as they wait. “Guess I was waiting for you.”
Donna can feel her cheeks burning despite the cold morning, a warmth swelling in her chest at his words. She knows he’s only teasing, that this is what they do, apparently. But one of the first things she’s learnt about him in the days since they met is that Josh doesn’t say anything he doesn’t mean.
Like You’d Get Your Knuckles Bloody for Me by Iamsherlocked07 | Rated G | C. J. Cregg/Toby Ziegler | Complete | Toby makes a rash decision to protect CJ.
he built a fire just to keep me warm by scullymuldrs for mikaylawrites | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | “You know,” he tells her, “it’s okay if you need to take a break.”
“I don’t, I promise. Today was just one of those days.” She tries to ignore the warmth blooming in her chest when she feels him rub circles against her skin.
“You can tell me about your bad days,” he says, “I want to take care of you too.”
(Donna’s spent years taking care of Josh, but he’s spent just as long taking care of her.)
sit with you in the trenches by swancharmings for defendingtheearth | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | ”So you’ve got health and strength.”
“And we’ll steal the rest?”
“Bet your ass.”
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Four ways they did exactly that.
how sharp the pieces were you'd crumbled into by hufflepuffhermione | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | It’s clear to her now, as she kicks off the covers of the bed, suddenly feeling restrained by them, that Josh needs company more than he needs intimacy. Josh doesn’t need her body—perhaps he does want it, but it’s more than that—he needs her. She practically jumps out of bed, unable to to stay there any longer. Not when Josh is alone on what has to be one of the hardest nights of his life (which is saying something).
Josh is falling apart, and Donna tries not to notice. Until she does.
//prompt: taylor swift songfic
you drew stars around my scars by sam_writes_fics | Rated M | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | Josh, Donna, and the scars that saved their lives
not because he owns me (but 'cause he really knows me) by mikaylawrites | Rated M | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete | “How about these?” she asks, her finger hovering above the glass case.
Josh steps closer to see a number of dainty silver necklaces with round, flat pendants. Each is engraved with a single letter in a simple, serif font.
"Those are pretty,” he says, though he wouldn’t have guessed she would choose something like that. “Would you want a ‘D’? Or an ‘M’?”
She looks over at him, the corners of her mouth turned up. “How about a ‘J’?”
When Josh lets Donna pick out her own anniversary gift, she makes an unexpected choice.
august slipped away into a moment in time by crossingdelancey | Rated M | C. J. Cregg/Toby Ziegler | Complete | in which cj is much too hot, and toby ziegler can vouch for her on that.
it always leads to you and my hometown (series) by singingaboutwishing | Rated T | Will Bailey/Sam Seaborn | Complete | sam and will, to the tune of “dorothea” and “‘tis the damn season” by taylor swift. midwestern, non-political au.
Fics:
Presenting your weekly roundup of fics posted in the tag for The West Wing on Archive of Our Own. If you are so inclined, please be sure to leave the authors some love in the form of kudos or comments. Be mindful of posted warnings/tags for each story.
Josh/Donna
it's 3am i must be lonely by sam_writes_fics | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete
gave you so much (but it wasn’t enough) by hanyolo | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete
all i’ve ever learned from love by hanyolo for mikaylawrites | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete
Cones of Dunshire by Shinyrosa | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete
late for the love of my life by sam_writes_fics | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete
The Smile On Your Face Lets Me Know That You Need Me by mlea7675 | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
ballerina, you've must have seen her by thababes | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
something gave you the nerve by hanyolo | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
you knock me out, I fall apart (and I thought I was so smart) by fiery_one_18 | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete 
if i had a wish (i'd wish for sunshine all the while) by JessBakesCakes for mikaylawrites | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete 
Still Feel Like Your Man by flowersinapril | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete 
and i'll love you more than anybody can by JessBakesCakes | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
this is the wonder (that's keeping the stars apart) by joshatella (shuuuliet) | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
And the world spins madly on by Shinyrosa | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
all grown up by fiery_one_18 for debutante_gurl | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete
all i gotta do is say your sweet name by hufflepuffhermione for mikaylawrites | Rated M | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete 
but i knew you by swancharmings | Rated E | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
Body Count by Chinesepapercut | Rated E | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | Complete
the god trick by Benevolent_Atlas31 | Not Rated | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
heartbreak, you know, drives a big black car by phos3 | Not Rated | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
i should have asked you questions. by The_wastedworld | Not Rated | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss | In Progress
CJ/Toby
starry eyes sparking up my darkest night by claudiasjeancregg | Rated T | C. J. Cregg/Toby Ziegler | Complete
andante, andante by claudiasjeancregg | Rated T | C. J. Cregg/Toby Ziegler | Complete
Other Pairings/Gen Fic
When I said I would die a bachelor (I did not think I should live till I were married) by jazzjo | Rated G | C. J. Cregg/Leo McGarry | Complete
you can afford to lose a day or two by jazzjo | Rated G | C. J. Cregg/Kate Harper | Complete
Miracle by imperfectirises | Rated M | Abbey Bartlet/Jed Bartlet | In Progress
Wait For Me by imperfectirises | Rated M | Abbey Bartlet/Jed Bartlet | In Progress
Somethings you just can't speak about by Worldsofdreamers | Rated M | Josh Lyman/Sam Seaborn | Complete
The Language of Healing by silasfinch for justdreaming88 | Rated M | Ellie Bartlet/Original Female Character(s) | In Progress
Contentment by SocialOutsider | Rated E | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss/Sam Seaborn | Complete
Multiple Pairings
Let's Get Together by mlea7675 | Rated G | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss, Ainsley Hayes/Sam Seaborn, Zoey Bartlet/Charlie Young, Abbey Bartlet/Jed Bartlet | In Progress
all i wanna do in the middle of the evening is hold you tight by rearviewmirror | Rated T | Abbey Bartlet/Jed Bartlet/Leo McGarry, Abbey Bartlet/Jed Bartlet, Jed Bartlet/Leo McGarry, Abbey Bartlet/Leo McGarry | Complete
There are no second acts in American lives (except when there are) by norahb | Rated T | Josh Lyman/Donna Moss, Sam Seaborn/Original Male Character(s), Josh Lyman/Original Female Character(s) | In Progress
now that i'm unfettered and unbound by jazzjo | Not Rated | Danny Concannon/C. J. Cregg (past), Josh Lyman/Donna Moss (background) | Complete 
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listen, i’m not a will/kate hater, but i do like to think that, post-canon, kate met the woman of her dreams (and this time, the marriage stuck), and will went to oregon and found the lumberjack husband he deserves.
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fivevotesdown · 2 years
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some boys where when they come onscreen i say "there he is! that's my favorite white boy!!"
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caseymccall · 5 years
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Bradley Whitford — NBC Upfront 2019
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skywinchesters · 5 years
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Lucy: I’d imagine with that cowboy hat, you were quite the dandy.
Flynn: Alright, this was fun, but Wyatt and I are busy making tactical decisions and I’m sure you have a lot of research to do, so I’ll talk to you later.
Lucy: Bye! (walks off)
Flynn and Wyatt: (walk away together)
Flynn: I’ll take care of Emma -
Wyatt: Where are you going?
Flynn: Where are YOU going?
Wyatt: I was following you.
Flynn: I was following you... Alright, don’t tell anyone this happened, okay?
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ultrahpfan5blog · 3 years
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Brooklyn Nine-Nine: Season 5 Retrospective
Finished season 5 rewatch a few days ago. Season 5 was an eventful year for the show, on and off the screen. Off screen the show got cancelled on Fox, had a huge public outcry over the cancellation which included several celebrities, and then got picked up by NBC all in 48 hours. It was an exhilarating time as a B99 fan. Lot of stuff happened on screen as well, Jake and Rosa were in prison, team got them out, Jake and Amy got engaged, Rosa came out as bisexual to the precinct and her parents, Holt was in the running to be NYPD Commissioner, Amy became a Sergeant, and then Jake and Amy got married. Eventful season to say the least. Its also my favorite season of the show.
Honestly, this season is about as close to perfection I felt with a season. In other seasons there are at least an episode or two which I felt were meh or problematic. Season 5 is near flawless. I think Return to Skyfire is the weakest of the episodes but its still pretty fun. There are several episodes of season 5 that all rank in the top 10 B99 episodes in my opinion. The show also takes some risks with a couple of experimental episodes. There are episodes with a lot of heart, there are episodes that absolutely hilarious, there are ensemble episodes, there are two hander episode. some excellent new guest stars, and many great recurring stars.
I think the two prison episodes are pretty interesting. Tim Meadows as Caleb is absolutely amazing. He is so likable and low key hilarious that the fact that he's a cannibal who eats children always feels like a dark surprise. He and Andy Samberg make for a fun duo. The first of the two episodes is particularly fun. The show doesn't hesitate to show the danger of Jake being in the prison, especially the situation he finds himself by the end of the premiere. The show does connect one story to the next pretty seamlessly with the end of the Melanie Hawkins story connecting the the Seamus Murphy story which then connected to the Holt commissioner story. There are also a couple of really good experiments in experiments and story with The Box and Show Me Going. The Box is B99 at its most confident. Apart from Gina very briefly at the beginning and Boyle very briefly at the end, the entire episode really hinges on only three characters. Jake, Holt, and Sterling K. Brown's Dr. Davidson. Its a brilliant showcase for all three actors and all three characters. I believe Brown got a Guest Actor Emmy nomination for his performance and he's brilliant as the smarmy Dentist who really is in control for majority of the episode. Braugher and Samberg were old pros with their dynamic at this point and this is fantastic Jake and Holt episode because you completely get why Jake wants so badly to prove that he's right in front of Holt why being cast as the screw up and the idiot in the interrogation frustrates him so much because we know how much Holt's approval means to him. We also see why Terry call Jake his best detective back in season 1 because of how he riles up Davidson to get the confession at the end and getting the approval of Holt that he wanted. Its an incredibly satisfying episode and one of the show's best imo. Then there is also 'Show me Going' which is a surprisingly tense episode in which nothing tense actually happens on screen. The episode does a great job working with the fact that the only knowledge the squad has is that Rosa is on the scene of an active shooter situation. Basically we are in the same situation as the characters. Since all the characters are on edge, so are we. The show does a nice job balancing humor and recognize the danger of the situation.
The season has probably my favorite B99 episode and definitely by fav B99 Halloween episode with HalloVeen. Whereas the last three Halloween episodes were predictable or spoiled from the promos, this one actually threw a genuine surprise. I knew Jake and Amy would get engaged some point in the season, but I expected it to be on the much hyped 99th episode. Instead it can much earlier with HallowVeen and its a delight from start to finish. Its great to rewatch the episode because you pick up little signs that Jake was a bit more desperate to win than usual. First when he says that planning for the heist is what got him through prison time, and then when he says to Boyle that he has to win this time and this heist is way too important. On first watch, these details just slip by as regular overzealous Jake but they have additional poignancy on repeat. The actual proposal moment is handled beautifully in a very peraltiago way where it is both funny and romantic, with Charles' reaction being the cherry on top. There are quite a few strong related episodes that follow. The Venue being a fun return with the Vulture, Two Turkeys being a TWW reunion with Smits and Whitford returning as Amy and Jake's fathers. Its a better Thanksgiving episode than the previous season Smits appearance. Bachelor/ette party is another glorious episode with wild, fun shenanigans with Reginald VelJohnson appearing as himself. Jake & Amy is a very typical wedding episode where everything goes wrong but its perfect in all the right ways. Its heartwarming and sweet. You get more examples of how Jake and Amy are perfect for each other with Jake knowing the inside and outs of how Amy stresses out, and then ending on a wonderful B99 wedding with Fred Armisen returning to make a cameo appearance as Mlep(clay)nos. The episode was designed to work as a series finale since the potential for cancellation was there and while it leaves the season on a cliffhanger about Holt's job, its the sort of cliffhanger that we could have interpreted positively if the show hadn't gotten picked up by NBC.
The 99th and 100th episode of the show were also memorable. The creators chose to acknowledge the 99th episode in a way that most shows acknowledge the 100th episode, in true 99 style. Its a full ensemble episode barring the absence of Chelsea who would return on the 100th episode. Its a typical road trip episode which kickstarts the Holt commissioner storyline. It also is the episode where Rosa comes out as Bi to Charles. This was obviously a big story for Stephanie since she is bi as well and she championed this story. It gets explored in further depth next episode, but Stephanie Beatriz gets to do some of her best work in these two episodes, showing her vulnerability without losing her toughness. Game Night honestly feels very true to not just coming out as Bi to your parents but true to any child who has to confess something that would be against their conservatives parents' values. I think Game Night is a fantastically bittersweet episode and Danny Trejo is brilliantly cast as Rosa's father. The episode positions him as the parent whose reaction Rosa is most worried about and I love how they show that while its difficult for him to grasp the concept bisexuality, he comes around to accepting it and accepting Rosa. But the episode is still bittersweet with Rosa's mom not having come to terms with it. Its also an excellent Rosa and Jake episode where we see Jake endure incredibly uncomfortable situations to help Rosa. Its a characteristic that helps make Jake so endearing that he's willing to cross all limits for his friends.
There are lots of fun and hilarious episodes in between. Craig Robinson shows up as Doug Judy in The Negotiations which is another fun ep. Kevin and Jake get a great episode dealing with their dynamic in Safe House. Rosa and Amy have some fun in White Whale as the Sleuth Sisters. Pimento returns in Gray Star Mutual for some more crazy shenanigans. Gray Star Mutual also has my favorite cold open of all time with Jake leading a suspect lineup in a rendition of 'I got it that way', totally forgetting the crime that he's got the lineup for. Its pitch perfect and I've lost count of how many times I've seen that cold open on youtube. It basically has its own fanbase and introduced so many people to B99. We also get to see Naseem Pedrad as Jake's sister Katie and the end up having a cute dynamic. David Fumero shows up in The Puzzle Master. There are also pretty funny episodes dealing with some serious subject matter such Jake dealing with his own doubts in his ability to do his job after Prison in Kicks and Holt dealing with gambling addiction in Bad Beat. All handled very sensitively.
All in all, this was a fantastic season for the show. I had a blast rewatching it and it ended the Fox era in spectacular note. A 9.5/10. Now on to season 6.
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peterbishop · 4 years
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i think rob mostly got along fine with tww cast in the early years (he definitely wasn’t as close to the cast as allison, brad, janel and richard were, but brad and richard often talked about pranking him on the show so while they might have made fun of him sometimes, i don’t think there was true malice there) but the contract dispute really soured things
yeah i was listening to a podcast today w/ brad on west wing weekly and he talked about pranking rob all the time. it didn’t seem vitriolic then. but these days, i would be shocked if i ever saw them in the same room
i was listening to an interview with john wells who took the show over from aaron and it seems the contract dispute w/ rob is a big reason aaron left :/ rob kept trying to side with nbc instead of the show and things got uglyyyy
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beardedbarba · 1 year
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ya know, i don’t really like amy gardiner
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figureofdismay · 7 years
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i’ve been watching Studio 60 the last few days, and it turns out that 10 years later I am still so mad about how this show was treated by Sorkin’s own fans for daring to critique american pop culture. for daring not to be perfectly sweet and sweeping and uplifting and exactly the same as The West Wing. For daring to write the ~wrong couple into the show, the one that he signaled in the text from day one, not the other m/f couple that the fandom aggressively preferred. 
Studio 60 was about struggling to keep your integrity and intellectual honesty in the face of an instant gratification focused, reactionary status quo. It was about struggling to figure out was really was the right thing, or what was the truth, and about failing over and over. It was about people not being perfect, and not working in public service and being scared about keeping their jobs, but still trying to carve out something to do with their power than just scoop up a profit.
It was set up, nonsensically, as 30 Rock’s direct competitor, despite the fact that one was a 30 minute comedy, and one was a 60 minute drama, and they were both on NBC. nevertheless they were pitted against each other by the critics and by the fandom, 30 Rock held up as funny, referential, sharp, progressive, brilliant and accessible, and Studio 60 denounced as elitist snobbery, over intellectual, woman-hating, and a condescending national lecture -- even by people who loved and championed The West Wing, and Sorkin working on TWW. When 30 Rock “won” and Studio 60 “lost” this competition, the internet cheered and raved. I was bitter enough over it that I didn’t watch 30 Rock until the second season.... and then fell in love, and was an avid fan through most of it’s run.
But guess what, 10 years on, 30 Rock is still funny, but a good portion of the jokes fall flat because the zeitgeist has moved on. Tina Fey’s ‘progressive’ comedy hasn’t aged terribly well, and shows remarkably a lot of sexism and racism around the edges. Her uncomfortable bias against herself as acted out against her Liz Lemon character gets wearing. Her fear of the internet shippers wanting to see Liz and Jack together appeared to drive her into writing the character’s remarkable friendship into something toxic and uncomfortable.
Ten years on watching Studio 60, however, it’s not flawless, it doesn’t get every race and gender issue completely right, but it feels incisive. It feels current and entirely relevant, and the only thing that feels outdated is the mentions of G W Bush. It presents a variety of points of view and lets the viewer decide. And more than that the human drama and the comedy holds, it’s gripping and funny and full of pathos and struggle and the personal demons of the characters. 
These two shows were never meant to be pitted against each other, but since they were, and a winner was declared at the time.... I think it’s well worth it ask, which one is still the winner 10 year later. For me the answer is clear. And I will be forever sad and angry that we only got to see this one small slice of the lives of these characters.
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bisansastarks · 7 years
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I also assume they're getting rid of Parks and 30 rock bc they said their partnership with NBC was ending Honestly why do I even have a Netflix account?? All it has for me right now is TWW, Marvel, and BRBA.
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beardedbarba · 1 year
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something i thought of before i finished the west wing rewatch but just now remembered to tell you
toby and cj were in love. idgaf what anyone says. they were in love so deep that if it turned into anything romantic it would’ve killed them both
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beardedbarba · 1 year
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danny concannon
😍😍😍
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