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[FIC] The Third Wheel (1/1)

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Universe 6 Continuity Note: This story is set a couple of weeks after the events of Dragon Ball Super Epiosde #131.

[8 April, Age 780. Parnassan III, Universe 6]

"As I was saying, it's a great pity that I wasn't able to demonstrate my ability at the tournament."

"Uh-huh," said Cabba.

The two of them ate a rather simple meal in a clearing just outside a dense rainforest. Cabba was a Saiyan, a humanoid life form possessed of amazing strength. His diminutive size and lean physique might have suggested otherwise, but in truth he was one of the strongest Saiyans on his homeworld of Sadala. Sitting across from him at the aluminum folding table they had set up was Dr. Rota. He was even smaller than Cabba, with bright red skin and pointed ears. The spectacles which rested upon his long snout look like a scholar, but the pair of long, tusks jutting out of his mouth implied a more savage nature. His simple black robe only added to the enigma of his appearance.

An outside observer might have thought these two beings had little in common, but the truth was that they had shared a very unique experience recently. Weeks ago, the almighty overseer of the multiverse, the Grand Zeno, held a Tournament of Power. Eight universes were commanded to bring a team of their greatest mortal warriors to the competition. Cabba and Rota were teammates in this tournament, representing their native universe, the sixth of twelve.

The outcome of the tournament was somewhat unsatisfying for the team. Per the tournament rules, Grand Zeno erased all of Universe 6 when all of their fighters were eliminated from the contest. However, the winning team received a wish granted by the all-powerful Super Dragon Balls, and presumably the wish was used to restore the erased universes. Cabba, Rota, and their companions all found themselves back in their own universe, unsure of whom they had to thank.

Cabba believed that the Seventh Universe had won the tournament. The Saiyans of Universe 7 were much stronger than those of Universe 6, and one of them, Vegeta, had taught Cabba how to transform himself into a Super Saiyan. Cabba had come to admire Vegeta as a mentor-figure, and while Vegeta seemed indifferent to this hero-worship, he wasn't entirely without sentiment. During the tournament, he confided to Cabba that his goal was to win the Tournament of Power and use the wish to restore the losing universes. Cabba couldn't be certain that Vegeta had been the one to make the wish, but it certainly seemed like he had gotten his way.

Still, despite their miraculous reprieve, Universe 6 had still lost the game. The team had fought hard, but they simply lacked the power to cope with their opponents. Dr. Rota was especially frustrated, since he was eliminated from the tournament by Vegeta before he had gotten a chance to show off his true abilities. This was what had brought the doctor to Parnassan III.

"After we were brought back from erasure, your fellow Saiyans expressed a desire to continue training," Rota went on. "This got me to thinking. Perhaps the gods will hold other tournaments in the future."

"Maybe," Cabba said. His dark eyes kept darting around, as if he were waiting for something to happen. Rota paid no attention. So great was Rota's love for his own voice that he cared little if anyone else heard him.

"Naturally, you three would want to catch up to your Universe 7 counterparts," Rota said. "That odd fellow, Son Goku, and Vegeta. I have a score to settle with him. Well, I don't mean to make it sound like a grudge. More of a friendly rivalry, if you will. Perhaps not exactly friendly. I'd like to humiliate him, if at all possible."

"Yeah," Cabba said.

"So I contacted the Sadala Defense Force to look you up, and they told me you were here. I must say, this is an ideal training spot you've chosen. No sapient life forms, plenty of open space, a wide variety of environments and climates to challenge both mind and body. Nothing but myself and three Super Saiyans. A fine place to hone my skills."

"Uh-huh," Cabba said.

By now, even Rota was running out of things to say, and he had begun to notice Cabba wasn't being very responsive. This, the doctor assumed, would have been the part where the Saiyan cheerfully invited him to spar for a while. At the very least, Rota expected Cabba to ask about his power, since no one had gotten to witness it at the tournament. Confused, Rota said nothing for a moment, and waited for Cabba to take some sort of initiative.

The silence was broken only by the sharp cry of a bird flying overhead.

"I'm, uh, a bit surprised to find you here with your starship," Rota said, pointing back at the pair of spacecraft parked twenty meters away. "I had located your ship from orbit, and touched down next to it, but I thought I would have to search high and low for you, Cabba. One would think you'd be anxious to take advantage of the training opportunity. To say nothing off the company of the females--"

"You saw them?!" Cabba said with a gasp. Suddenly, Rota now had his undivided attention.

"No, not since the tournament," Rota said. "I thought they'd be here with you. Are you all right, Cabba?"

He leaned back in his seat and groaned. "Doctor, I haven't been all right since the tournament was announced."

*******

[5 April, Age 780. Parnassan III, Universe 6]

The trip to the Parnassan system had been uneventful enough. As eager as Caulifla had been to train, the tournament had left her as exhausted as everyone else who had participated, and so they used the spaceflight to rest. Once they disembarked, however...

"High time we got started!" Caulifla said as she punched her left hand with her right fist.

She was a wild woman, even by Saiyan standards. Caulifla’s thick, black hair floated up from her scalp like dark flames. She was constantly moving, even if it was just to rock back and forth on her heels. She dressed very simply, eschewing the typical Saiyan fashions for a pink bandeau and purple sharovary pants.

"We should unpack our supplies first," Cabba said. "The sun will be setting soon, and--"

"What difference does that make?!" Caulifla snapped. "You and your precious Sadala Defense Force and their standard procedure. They don't apply out here!"

Cabba struggled not to roll his eyes. Caulifla was an outlaw on their home planet. She was also the strongest Saiyan in Universe 6 before Cabba learned the Super Saiyan form. When the Tournament of Power was announced, Cabba was only given forty hours to assemble a team. Caulifla probably wouldn't have been his first choice. Though her heart was in the right place--her gang only stole from the rich to feed the poor--she was still stubborn and obnoxious. It had been a pleasure to show off his Super Saiyan power to her, if only to humble her for a moment. Of course, once he taught her to transform herself, whatever strength advantage he held quickly evaporated.

"The regulations may not be enforced here," Cabba tried to explain, "but it's still a good idea. There's no point fumbling around in the dark when we--"

"Idiot!" Caulifla shouted. "We've got the whole planet to ourselves! And we're Super Saiyans now. When it gets dark, we can just fly to the other side of the planet, or-- fwoosh!-- turn our hair all glowy and become our own night lights!"

"I just don't see why we should waste our time with that," Cabba said nervously, "when we could simply--"

"Sis?"

Caulifla turned to find Kale stepping off the ramp. They weren't actually siblings, but the members of Caulifla's gang would use the terms "brother" or "sister" refer to those of higher rank. Aside from a sullen expression on Kale’s face, there wasn't much about to mark her as an outlaw. She was meek and timid, and deferred to Caulifla in almost every situation. In spite of this, Caulifla had taken Kale on as a student. Cabba hadn't understood why until the day he taught Caulifla how to become a Super Saiyan. While the two of them sparred, Kale became intensely jealous of their newfound friendship, and suddenly transformed all by herself. It was likely that Kale's Super Saiyan form was even stronger than Cabba's or Caulifla's, but she only learned to control it during the heat of the tournament, so there had never been an opportunity to test her power.

"What is it, Kale?" Caulifla asked. In an instant, all the harsh defiance in her voice melted away.

"Um, I think we should get things ready here first," Kale said. "I mean, we're a long way from home, and... and if anything happens to the ship, we'll be stranded..."

"Oh?" Caulifla said. "Well, if it it'll make you feel better, then fine. Come on, I'll give you a hand. Hurry up, Cabba. Don’t expect us to do all the work!"

With that, the two women went back into the ship, leaving Cabba to shake his head and wonder what he had gotten himself into.

*******

[8 April, Age 780. Parnassan III, Universe 6]

"I thought you three got along better than that," Rota asked.

"It's... complicated," Cabba said. "The Sadala Defense Force serves the Saiyan Crown. Caulifla's gang acts in open defiance of the king. Technically, we're enemies."

"I see," Rota said. "If not for the Tournament of Power, you would have been tasked with arresting them."

"Probably," Cabba said. Caulifla had always been too strong for the SDF to handle, so we've always given her a wide berth. She's not really hurting anyone, after all. A lot of my comrades sympathize with her cause. I know I do."

"But then you learned how to transform into a Super Saiyan," Rota said. "You would have been forced to choose between her or your sovereign. The stuff of romance novels."

"It's not like that!" Cabba insisted. He leaped out of his chair and pounded his fist on the table, and though he only used a mere fraction of his immense strength, it was still enough to warp the aluminum tabletop into something resembling an abstract sculpture.

"Easy, young man, easy," Rota said. "We're all friends here."

"Yes, we're all friends," Cabba said. "Just friends, all right?"

"Of course," Rota said. "I didn't meant to upset you."

Cabba sat down and put his hands over his face, then dragged his palms up into his short, spiky hair. "Sorry, doctor," he said after a long sigh. "It's just that I've been on edge about that lately."

"I don't understand," Rota said.

"When I showed Caulifla how to become a Super Saiyan, I was only trying to do the right thing for Universe 6, for Sadala. But once Caulifla transformed, I was surprised by how happy it made me. I didn't realize how alone I felt as the only Saiyan in our universe with that kind of power. I think she felt the same way, and that made Kale very angry."

Rota scratched the bottom of his snout and his eyes went wide. "Yes, I recall something similar playing out during the tournament when Caulifla fought Son Goku. He was showing her other applications of the Super Saiyan form, and I thought it was rather arrogant for him to give out free lessons in the middle of a battle royale, but it was working to our advantage."

"Were you just watching everyone else the whole time?" Cabba asked pointedly.

"I was scouting, young man," Rota replied. "Waiting for the right moment to strike. I didn't become Doctor Rota by acting hastily. If I had attacked Son Goku then and there, he wouldn't have taught Caulifla how to increase her power. As it was, Kale went wild, and attacked him instead."

"Exactly," Cabba said. "Kale is very jealous in that respect. And before you bring it up, I happen to know Son Goku is married. I met his wife."

"In that case the solution seems obvious," Rota said. "As long as you keep Caulifla at arm's length, Kale shouldn't mind at all."

"That's what I thought at first," Cabba said. "But it turns out Kale isn't the one I have to worry about."

*******

[6 April, Age 780. Parnassan III, Universe 6]

One of the side-effects of Kale's Super Saiyan power was that her size increased when she used it. Of the two modes she had discovered, the larger one was brutish and almost uncontrollable. The smaller one seemed more useful, but it still made Kale at least fifteen centimeters taller than her normal height, and the muscles in her limbs and torso were much larger. She almost looked like a completely different person. Even her face took on a determined, more focused expression, and the only sign of the original Kale was the lipstick she wore.

Currently, she and Cabba were thirty meters in the air, and she had him in a hammerlock. Cabba could tell she wasn't trying to apply pressure to the hold, but it still hurt, because the woman simply didn't know her own strength.

"I don't see the point of this," Kale asked. "It might be useful for arresting criminals, but what good does it do in a real fight?"

"Think about it," Cabba said. "If you managed to apply a hold like this on an opponent, you could set him up for an ally to finish him off."

"But why not just attack him myself?" Kale asked.

"Because you might not be strong enough for that," Cabba said. "Joint locks can.. ow!... neutralize an opponent's strength advantage. You and Caulifla did well against Son Goku, but it wasn't enough to just attack him together. You tried to overwhelm him, but what if one of you slipped behind him and managed to immobilize him."

"Wouldn't he just break the hold?" Kale asked.

"Maybe, but it would still be easier than trying to go toe-to-toe with him," Cabba explained. "Properly applied, a good hold can use your opponent's strength against him. But that's not the only reason to familiarize yourself with them. Could you power down, please?"

Kale released her grip and reverted to her normal, smaller self. Normally, she kept her hair in a ponytail, but the Super Saiyan transformation pulled the hair tie apart every time she used it. Now, her hair hung loose around her shoulders as she looked up expectantly at Cabba.

"You see, every hold has a counter-hold, a way to escape," Cabba explained. "I'm going to put a few holds on you and show you how to slip free, and you won't even need to transform to force your way out."

Kale seemed genuinely fascinated by this. "Okay!" she said. It was the first time Cabba had seen her smile at anyone besides Caulfila."

"Right, well, we'll start with an easy one," he said. Moving behind her, he slipped his arms under her shoulders to apply a full-nelson.

"WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING UP THERE, CABBA!?"

Startled, he moved away from Kale and looked down to find Caulifla, dragging the remains of a dead animal behind her. In a split second she transformed into a Super Saiyan and launched herself into the air to confront him.

"Sis!" Kale said with a gasp.

"I was showing her some holds I learned in the Sadala Defe--!" Cabba tried to say.

"How dumb do you think I am, Cabba?!" Caulifla shouted. "We've been training all day, and as soon as I go off to find us some lunch, you suddenly decide to give special lessons to my protege!"

"It's not like that!" Cabba insisted. "I only suggested the holds because it was something Kale wasn't already familiar with--"

"Look, I respect you, Cabba!" Caulifla said. She jabbed her finger against the chestplate of his SDF uniform. "Half the time, I even like you. You'd make a pretty good addition to my gang. The three of us would be running Sadala inside of a week, if I had any interest in that sort of thing!"

Cabba wasn't sure how to respond to this, but fortunately for him Caulifla had no intention of letting him get a word in edgewise.

"I get it, Cabba," she continued. "Kale was attractive enough before she learned how to turn into a Super Saiyan. The guys in my gang can barely take their eyes off of her. They can't help it!"

Cabba glanced back at Kale, hoping for some sort of assistance. She was too busy blushing to come to his rescue.

"I've been training Kale for a while now, so I've dealt with this sort of thing before. It's not easy having a protege who happens to be the most desirable woman on Planet Sadala. Everyone always offering to help her up, or asking to spar with her while I'm not around. There's no shame in it, Cabba. It just means you've still got a pulse!"

"On... the entire planet?" Cabba asked.

"And now that she's a Super Saiyan, it's only going to get worse, I suppose," Caulifla said as she clicked her tongue. "The gang probably won't get anything done when we get back. They'll all be too busy watching her stretch in the morning, or sniffing at the breeze to catch a whiff of her scent."

"Caulifla, I promise you, I have no interest in Kale whatsoever!" Cabba said. He was desperate now to defuse this situation. For all he knew, Caulifla might suddenly transform into some even more dangerous Super Saiyan form than Kale's. Unfortunately, he was a bit too forceful in his denial.

"No... interest?" Caulifla said slowly. She glared at him, somehow looking even angrier than she had been before. "What are you saying? That there's something wrong with Kale?"

Cabba opened his mouth to answer, but he honestly had no idea what to say.

*******

[April 8, Age 780. Paranassan III, Universe 6.]

"Is Kale unattractive?" Dr. Rota asked. "Alien as you are to me, I really have no way of knowing myself. You Saiyans don't have much in the way of snout structure."

Cabba waved his hand nonchalantly. "She's all right, but I wouldn't go as far as Caulifla," he said. "They're both perfectly... Look, that isn't the point. At least half of the Sadala Defense Force are women. I'm a professional, and a proud Saiyan warrior, not some punk outlaw who loses control of himself whenever he sees a girl's triceps. I didn't come to this planet to try to seduce Kale into joining the SDF, or whatever else they think. I resent the implication."

"Then why did you even come to this place at all?" Rota asked. "It sounds like you won't be able to train with Caulifla without upsetting Kale, and you can't train with Kale without upsetting Caulifla."

"I didn't want to go," Cabba grumbled. "I knew it would be this way, but Caulifla insisted. She was afraid that if she and Kale left Sadala, then I might round up her gang while they were gone. And that's how the King sees it, too. He's worried about what those two might do if I were to leave Sadala to train on my own. He's pretty much ordered me to keep an eye on them. Not that I'd stand a chance against their combined power, but I'm the only Super Saiyan the king has. For now, I'm stuck with them."

"Then what are you going to do?" Rota asked. "Surely you don't mean to just sit here with your ship while they train. Unless... you don't mean to abandon them here?"

"Of course not," Cabba said. "That would be cowardly. Besides, I need to establish a rivalry with them in order to advance my own power. Like Vegeta has with Son Goku. Only it'll never work like this, not while they can't stop thinking about each other for more than five seconds."

"Then how--?"

"I'm not hiding out here for no reason, doctor," Cabba said. "I'm playing a hunch. I'm betting that without me around, they'll realize that I'm not the one who's distracted around here. Maybe then, I can clear the air with them and we can get down to training."

"I still don't follow you, young man," Dr. Rota said. "Still, if you're as bored as you look, you and I could spar while you wait for... whatever it is you're waiting for."

"I'm afraid not, doctor," Cabba said. "I don't want anything to disturb them until I'm sure. You're welcome to stick around after that, assuming Caulifla doesn't mind. For what it's worth, I think she was interested in seeing that power of yours."

His lips curled into a smile, exposing a bit more of his tusks. "A very perceptive young lady," he said. "Very well. As I said before, I'm content to bide my time and wait for the right moment, though your reasoning mystifies me, Cabba."

*******

Thousands of kilometers from Cabba, Rota, and the ships, Caulifla and Kale alighted in a savannah, having abandoned their search.

"The nerve of that guy!" Caulifla growled. "We've been looking for him for hours."

"M-maybe he went back to the ship?" Kale suggested.

"Nah!" Caulifla said. "He knows that'd be the first place we'd look. He challenged us to find him, so that must mean he's hidden himself pretty well. But enough is enough! We've got better things to do than chase him around!"

"We do?" Kale asked.

"Of course we do!" Caulifla said. "You want to get stronger, don't you? You want to become a Super Saiyan 3, don't you?"

"Oh, well I guess so..." Kale said sheepishly.

Caulifla slapped her hand onto Kale's back. "That's the spirit!" she said. "Let Cabba hide in the woods like a tool! I was hoping to spar with him, but if all he wants to do is flirt, then who needs him? I’ve got a perfect sparring partner with me right here!"

"You want to spar... with me?" Kale asked.

"You bet!" Caulifla said. "Let's get right to it! Finally, we can get some real work done!"

"Um, right!"

They moved about three meters apart from each other and raised their arms in a defensive posture.

"The nerve of that guy," Caulifla said. "Letting his hormones get the better of him like that! How'd someone like him ever become such a big shot in the Sadala Defense Force, anyway?"

Kale nodded. "He's just so unfocused!" she said.

"And yet he did so well in the Tournament of Power!" Caulifla said. "At least I think he did. We got split up a lot during that battle."

"M-maybe that's what's wrong," Kale suggested. "He does better on his own. Around girls, he can't think straight."

"Sheesh! What a lousy break! Cabba's the only other Super Saiyan in our universe! If he can't spar with us, he'll get rusty in no time!"

"I guess... I guess he'll just have to work it out on his own," Kale said.

"Yeah, either way, it's his problem, not ours. While he's taking cold showers, we'll be training as Super Saiyan 3!"

"Sis, do... do you think there's a Super Saiyan 4?" Kale asked.

Caulifla dropped her fighting stance and rubbed her fingers over her chin as she considered this possibility. At last she shrugged her shoulders. "Could be!" she said. "It's exciting to think about, huh? Well, we won't find out by talking about it, will we?"

"Right!"

She resumed her posture and they began to circle around one another.

"We never got a chance to really fight one-on-one as Super Saiyans," Caulifla said. "I bet we're pretty evenly matched now."

"You... you really think so?" Kale asked.

"Heh. You may have surpassed me, Kale. You lasted a little longer against Son Goku than I did."

"Surpassed?" Kale started to blush at the suggestion. "Oh... I can't imagine."

"I'm a little nervous, honestly," Caulifla said with a grin. "I don't want to make a mistake."

"Me too."

"Honestly, I can't really blame Cabba for getting distracted. You cut a mean figure when you're squaring off for a fight."

"Thanks!"

"He just couldn't keep a lid on his passions! If you got him in a hold, he'd probably be too thrilled to think about how to escape."

"Your eyes," Kale said.

"Huh?"

"When you're transformed. They're really pretty. I can see how it'd be hard for him not to stare."

For once, Caulifla was at a loss for words. Her eyes went wide, and then she blinked a few times before mumbling: "Uh... yeah, you too!"

They continued to circle around each other as they sought an opening. This went on for several minutes, until a gentle breeze passed over them, and Caulifla found herself downwind of her protege.

"Kale."

"Yes?"

"I can smell your lipstick from here," Caulifla said.

"Oh."

"No wonder Cabba got so worked up. We should have found a training ground with a stiffer breeze."

"I'm sorry. I should just stop putting it on for a while..."

"No! It looks good on you. And... I like the smell."

"Oh, Okay."

Caulifla laughed. "You might have confused Cabba with that sort of thing, but it'll take more than that to distract me, Kale."

Eventually, they moved around until Kale was downwind of Caulifla.

"I can smell your hair from here," Kale said. "But... it isn't bothering me at all."

"Good," Caulifla said. "Well, I guess you can come at me, Kale."

"I'm not sure I'm ready."

"Nah, I keep telling you not to overthink things! Just improvise!"

And so she did. In a split second, Kale charged at Caulifla and threw a punch with her left hand, which Caulifla caught in her right. They stood this way for a few seconds, Kale trying to push forward, and Caulfila trying to hold her back as they stared into each other's eyes. The scents they had noticed before were now all the more intense. They each held out their free hand with uncertainty, unsure what to do.

And in the next moment their standoff ended in an embrace, and they rolled to the ground as they exchanged a kiss.

They continued to improvise this way for some time.

********

"I wish you'd explain this hunch of yours," Dr. Rota said to Cabba. "I don't mind the waiting, but the mystery is very irksome."

"I'm not sure I can explain it, doctor," Cabba said. "Do you know anything about Saiyan mating practices?"

Rota shook his head. "Nothing at all, really."

Cabba shrugged. "That's okay," he said. "To be honest, we Saiyans don't really understand it either."

[THE END]

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tigerlover16-uk · 7 years

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What do you think is the biggest difference between Frost and Frieza?

Frost is smarter than Frieza.

Frieza is a great villain, but he’s not much of a chessmaster. He got by because he was a born prodigy who never needed to train to be the most powerful being in the universe. He just overwhelmed his opponents and civilizations he wanted to conquer with his sheer power and sending swarms of minions at them.

And while he’s not unintelligent, far from it he can be smart when he needs to be, he does end up undermining himself with bad decisions. Wiping out the saiyans because they might pose a threat to him someday wasn’t a bad idea, for example, but keeping a few of them alive to help do his dirty work is what ended up bringing Goku to Namek, and thus led to Frieza’s downfall. Him playing around with Goku for as long as he did and not killing him first instead of Krillin when he had everyone cornered were also prime example of said cockiness.

And while those events were also just bad luck and he couldn’t have known what would happen, his overconfidence in his own abilities and never bothering to train and gain better control over his full power was entirely his own fault, since it caused him to lose to Goku both times they fought. Not perfecting his Golden Frieza form being the worse offense, it made sense for his character to rush to earth right after gaining all that power given everything we know about him so it wasn’t poor writing, but it WAS incredibly boneheaded of him, even with his back up plan.

It’s Frieza own poor decisions and overconfidence in his own power that constantly gets him screwed over, so while he’s an entertaining and well written villain, easily my favourite, I wouldn’t call him an especially smart one since it took him until the Universe Survival Saga to finally start learning from his mistakes and be more pragmatic.

Frost was in a different situation. While he was definitely still powerful, he lived in a universe where the general population doesn’t seem to be as weak as the inhabitants of universe 7 outside of the Z fighters and a few gifted warriors here and there. The saiyans are an intergalactic defence force, and if Cabba, Caulifla and Kale are any indication they’re generally much stronger than the universe 7 saiyans usually were before they went near-extinct, their two strongest warriors before the genocide only reached a power level of about 10000 after all. We don’t know anything about the Metal Men, but if Magetta is any indication I bet you they’re a bunch of tough cookies. Namek in this universe apparently has fighters strong enough to compete in the tournament of power.

And of course, there’s Hit the legendary assassin, who Frost already seemed very much aware of when they first shared a scene together. Take all of these people into account, notice that Magetta at least gave Vegeta a much harder time than Frost did in his final form, and notice that we don’t hear or see anything of any family Frost has, so it’s possible there’s presently no King Cold in this universe and thus likely he wasn’t born into evil royalty so would have likely had to work his way up to power from scratch, and it’s pretty obvious that there was no way Frost could have just bulldozed his way through the universe with an army of pirates to conquer whatever he wanted the way Frieza handled things. He’d have faced opposition that could have probably stopped him, or someone would have just hired Hit to take him out quickly.

So, Frost had to compensate for his different circumstances by becoming clever, pragmatic and more skilled in his fighting style and how he handled his planet selling business strategy. hence, he manipulated everything to make himself look like a hero while he was really doing things that were just as horrible as most of Frieza’s antics. Albeit we don’t know if he caused any full on genocides because of how he operated, but Frost definitely left a lot of orphans with his actions.

Frost isn’t beyond getting his hands dirty. He fought pretty fairly with Goku in his assault form and then against Piccolo before both of them started to really overpower them, but Frost usually prefers to go for more pragmatic and tactical maneuvers in his fights. Like how he manipulated things in his fight with Roshi and Vegeta to trap the latter with the mafuba.

And really, it’s hard to argue that his manipulative tactics don’t garner great results. He was around doing his crimes many years after Frieza was beaten and then killed the first time, and he was only found out because Jaco happened to catch him in the act of poisoning his opponents and then Vados straight out told everyone what kinds of evil things he gets up to. And if he’d actually managed to beat Vegeta, keep in mind, CHAMPA WOULD HAVE HELPED HIM GET AWAY WITH IT ALL ANYWAY.

Frost only loses because he rushed in to attack Vegeta (Albeit he didn’t know anything about Vegeta or how fast and powerful he was. If he had Frost would have probably been more careful), and then later in the Tournament of Power because he got too comfortable around Frieza, who decided to give Frost a taste of his own medicine and stabbed him in the back before Frost could react. Both are genuine mistakes on his part, but they’re not overly stupid, they’re just bad luck in one case and momentarily poor judgement in the other.

Frost losing his temper and trying to shoot at Frieza from the stands was probably the only genuinely stupid thing he ever did, and he paid the price for it like he deserved for everything he’d done. But then again, he’d lost everything already before the tournament, and he’d just had his last chance to repair his business and life suddenly ripped away from him by a guy he’d foolishly trusted.

If his team didn’t actually lose the tournament, he could very well have been erased by Champa anyway afterwards for losing if he was in a bad mood, and even if not Cabba and probably the rest of the team wouldn’t have just let him get away scot free. He looked like he was having trouble processing the full weight of what his elimination meant for a moment after being ringed out, and then Frieza made fun of him and his abilities, rubbing salt in the wound. A moment of poor judgement and passion in the midst of realizing his life was truly ruined is excusable, honestly.

Other than that though, Frost always gives off an air of being in control of any situation, and unlike Frieza he’s not normally prone to angry outbursts when he doesn’t get his way. Which is why the one time it happened was significant. Even after Vados revealed he was really a planet brokering pirate, he just took a moment to laugh and gloat about his business strategy and then casually prepared to walk off stage. Because hey, the cat was out of the bag anyway, might as well have fun rubbing his atrocities in everyone’s faces while he could.

Frost may not be the strongest fighter around, but he’s capable of being a genuine threat to much more powerful opponents, including the likes of Goku and Vegeta, through sheer ingenuity, cunning and improvisation. And that’s not something we tend to see a lot of in Dragon Ball villains really, at least the major ones. It’s refreshing to see a villain who’s less powerful than most of our heroes who could still beat them just because he’s smart.

Frost was an interesting villain honestly. I was disappointed that we didn’t get the good version of Frieza we all thought we were getting at first, but in retrospect I’m pretty happy with how his character turned out anyway. It was still pretty fun to watch him, and he was a less conventional take on a alternate universe counterpart than what we thought we were getting, which really is Toriyama’s style when you think about it.

Too bad he died. Ah well, minor Dragon Ball villains rarely last long, at least he left an impact in the time he had. Hopefully he gets revived at the end of the tournament so we can see just a bit more of him in the future, but I can’t complain too much if that doesn’t happen. The way Frost died at least felt appropriate, in the end his downfall came from being manipulated and stabbed in the back by an even BIGGER scumbag than he was whom he thought he could trust. Fitting after the stuff he pulled, huh?

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ebbywaffle replied to your post “i want to complain about super.”

Super sucks, not quite in the same way GT sucks, but it’s Not Good

This is going to be really long because I’m gonna rant about EVERYTHING.

i was talking to friends where i made a claim that super is probably just as bad as GT was.

but it was a really ignorant thing for me to say because i honestly havent seen GT since...late high school, early college, so i dont remember the levels of bad that it hit.

They both have the same issue in having really cool concepts and craptastic execution. Super Saiyan 4 (way cooler design wise than Super Saiyan Blue or God), the idea of the Tuffles gaining revenge on the Saiyans, the dragon balls actually turning on the heroes for once, etc., but none of it was done well, the show had massive pacing issues despite being only like...64 episodes long and it was just generally boring.

Super has really cool concepts that it usually fails to do in satisfying way, though it has hit the mark at times. The Zamasu arc was a whole lot of nonsense, but it was so fast paced and fun that it was really easy to look past how ridiculous it was because RULE OF COOL.

Trunks going into that weird ultra transformation and stomping holes in the ground was one of the hypest moments in the series. Trunks getting to slice Zamasu in half with the spirit sword while delivering an awesome hero speech was SO SICK. Super Saiyan Blue Vegito was awesome! Bulma apparently creating bullets strong enough to bother god level beings is sick. I loved that Mai, a minor character from freakin Dragon Ball, played a major role. I adored the expansion of the Kaio/god of destruction lore.

Beerus destroying Zamasu is one of the single coolest scenes in all of Dragon Ball.

Almost everything else that has been story relevant has been...well...bad.

The highlight of Dragon Ball Super are usually the “filler” episodes where there’s no fighting. Seeing Goku be a grandpa and Piccolo be an uncle. Watching Gohan be in a movie. Seeing Krillin and 18′s general home life. The episode with Arale kicking everyone’s ass because she’s a gag character and therefore not bound by any sort of power was wonderful. Bulma gathering the dragon balls and everyone crashing her party was really funny. I love the little moments where we get to see these characters outside of the usual “oh no the earth is doomed” scenarios.

But anything with plot relevance usually falls flat on its face, mostly because EVERYTHING OUTSIDE OF ZAMASU HAS BEEN A TOURNAMENT ARC, or a worse retelling of the movies.

The tournament arcs feel like the Garlic Junior saga to me. They have to make it so a bunch of garbage jobbers somehow stand a chance against a god-tier cast and the fights end up being snooze-fests while also making some characters look absolutely terrible (Mr. Boo and Piccolo, I’m looking at you).

And some episodes that had potential to be great ended up being really flat. There was an episode where Krillin was dealing with self doubt because of the trauma he has from being killed in the past. I think the idea of this is so freakin’ good and they toyed with it when Freeza attacked Earth at the beginning of Super where Krillin was scared to fight even though he was definitely way stronger than any of Freeza’s grunts.

The later episode is about him regaining his confidence. But it’s just so...flat and boring. I want to see Krillin triumph so much because Krillin is the coolest, but this episode was just so uncreative and it felt rushed, not to mention that the animation was terrible. There were some cool touches, like having Tambourine, the first villain to kill him, make an appearance, but nothing really came of it.

Of course, that’s not even getting into the absurd power creep in this show. Dragon Ball has had this problem for a long time, but it’s extra awful in Super. Krillin holding a beam battle against SSB Goku. Android 17 somehow fighting evenly with SSB Goku. Piccolo powering up all the way to a level where he can hurt Ultimate Gohan. Freeza keeping up with every one else’s power levels because he “mind trains” in hell. It’s all nonsensical trash garbage that only ends up making every single character look bad.

If SSB Goku is already stronger than Hit and can hurt him, then why doesn’t using Kaioken instantly vaporize Hit the second Goku touches him? If Goku was holding back in that beam battle against Krillin, why did he even go Blue in the first place? Why would he go Blue and then drop his power level by like a factor of bazillion to go easy on Krillin? Just stay in your base form? Why does Goku say that he’s trying to conserve energy during the universal tournament by not going Super Saiyan, when he showed during the Cell saga that he can stay in Super Saiyan form for literal DAYS without tiring? Why does Goku say he’s trying to conserve energy but then immediately go Blue to knock some jobbers out of the ring with a giant energy blast? Why is Tien in this show? How did Roshi not get insta-murdered the second Goku laid a hand on him? How did Roshi DEFEAT Tien, a character whose been stronger than him since his freakin’ introduction? How does Freeza have a henchman that is apparently stronger than first form Cell? Why couldn’t Piccolo beat Frost easily, when Frost is around the strength of Freeza at his original appearance and Piccolo, by this point, is AT LEAST as strong as first form Cell? How did Gohan’s power level drop so dramatically that he struggled to reach even regular Super Saiyan? How did he even lose his Ultimate power in any case as that wasn’t really a transformation in the first place? How did Krillin and Goku get bruised/hurt by bullets, when Goku was tanking bullets in his first appearance in Dragon Ball issue ONE, and Krillin probably has the power to obliterate the planet a few times over?

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And the last thing I’m going to bring up is character design in Super. Outside of Beerus and Whis, most of the new character designs in Super are not that great. Hit and Jiren, two new heavy hitters i think have really boring, cookie cutter designs, especially Hit. He looks like a Frankenstein monster cobbled together with design elements from all of the previous Dragon Ball villains. Or like a shitty purple Namekian. His power is cool, but his design is wackadoodle. I think Jiren is actually not that bad, but I hate his “ears”, the same ears given to every goddamn alien character since Freeza (think about it). Though I actually kind of dig how he looks like the stereotypical alien. 👽

The new Saiyan characters from Universe 6...I HATE Caulifla’s and the boy’s general design. They just look badly drawn. Caulifa’s body proportions look all over the place (her waist looks like it’s imploding in on itself) and her hair is just out of control and the boy’s face looks like it belongs in a “how to draw anime” book. Kale’s design is good though.

Frost is a boring design. The three wolf dudes they fought in the boring pre-Universal tournament arc tournament arc were laughably awful. All the jobbers in the Universal Tournament look trash. Outside of a couple, the God’s of Destruction are uninspired. A lot of the Kaio’s designs are really same-y.

It’s like all of their creative juice went into Beerus and Whis, two undeniably amazing character designs and they just had none left for the rest of the new characters.

Whew, okay rant over mostly.

#ebbywaffle #DBS

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