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rosesnwater · 4 months

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Content Warnings and A Lesson From Lore Olympus

As some of you may know, I write a comic, which i occasionally post about here. I'd like to address a conversation around creators and content warnings in this post as well as the general tremd of authors overstating whats happening in their story. I've seen it come up recently in webtoon discourse within my own comic.

So first off, right after my three page prologue I have an authors note that details all the topics my comic will be going into throughout the course of the story.

It follows:

These are ALL the issues I tackle within the comic and I leave it here so people can decide whether they want to continue with the story. I have labeled my story as mature. There is a warning when anyone accesses the comic for the first time on both Webtoons and Tapas. I also have warnings that come in three degrees that I place before each episode that handles one of the mature themes I mention. However, what I don't do is tell the reader what they're going to see before they see it. I don't like doing this for a couple reason, some of the most important being, I think makes the story redundant because it's already explaining what's going to happen and this in turn disrupts the narrative.

I understand why people feel strongly about warnings and making content safe on a platform with a young audience. However, seeing as this is a work I have invested a considerable amount of time in, that I'm offering for people to enjoy (which i enjoy doing), I believe it is important I tell the story in my own way.

When you pick up a book you may get a warning in the synopsis (although I find this is rare) or in other people's online reviews of the book BUT you have to go looking for those reviews. As a creator I can only testify to my own experience, but like novels, comics are stories and in my own work, the story should NOT be bisected by warnings expressly stating what's going to happen in each episode.

I feel this speaks to a general increased uninvolvement in the material readers are reading and a lack of reading comprehension to the point authors think it necessary to guide their audience through their story.

There has been a decent amount of discourse in the UnpopularLoreOlympus reddit thread about readers reading comprehension. It is now common practice to have images like the one bellow before an episode.

On more than one occasion Rachel has put warning paragraphs at the end of her episode stating without any subtext what EXACTLY a character meant during the episode, even though readers would ideally understood the subtext as communicated by the narrative.

And before that she would have warnings signs like this before episodes where the content would be present:

The above warning is actually quite common amongst comics but it should NOT be required by the audience. If an author is doing their job, they'll have the proper box ticked off when submitting their webtoon

SPOILERS FOR MANY WORKS OF FICTION.

No one tells you at the beginning of jane Eyre that there will be violence, death of children, and abuse, let alone where these incidents will occur.

The hunger games won't warn you before the start of a chapter that there will be starvation or gruesome depictions of character death or content describing mental illness.

Most movies will have warning before the whole movie but they won't briefly cut out of the narrative to tell you what's about to happen and people shouldn't expect comic artists to do this either.

As a comic creator i am rellyng upon my audience's discretion to decide on whether or not a story is safe for their consumption. However, I'm adamant in my own work that that's where my required involvement ends.

I will explain things in the comments or answer reader questions, i will be happy doing so because i get to engage with people on something Ive spent hours creating. I will go onto my discord and jump into the deep world building or explain a particular scene, but this should not be required.

Holding authors accountable for going thoroughly over the controversial issues every episode they post is unreasonable and honestly (for me) damaging to the creative work. We end up with situations like lore olympus where authors are there to explain every warning and subtext to the audience without any work on the readers part.

I know this may be controversial to some, but as a creator, it's something that's bothered me for a while and something I think we should be able to talk about in the artistic community.

#webtoons discourse #webtoons rant #creators #readers #lore olympus #netvor #comic #tapas #webtoons #unpopular lore olympus

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ibrithir-was-here · 9 months

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Ok! Last one for a while I promise xD

But here's all the covers I've done over the last few months! Super pleased with them if I do say so myself x)

As always please go check out the novels featured(wrll you dont really have to do Twilight 😅) especially @rosesnwater and @theboarsbride who's original novels/ wips are featured in the first and third rows, they're all amazing!

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3acej · 9 months

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Idk how to use tumblr lmao but uhmmm fanart for @rosesnwater yeah !! B ) +I hope I didn't miss anything T o T Tumblr's community seems nicer than Insta and Twitter so hoping for the best rn

#Netvor #digital art #how do you use tumblr #beauty and the beast #idk how to do anything #< 3

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theboarsbride · 4 months

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Netvor belongs to @rosesnwater

Some toon-y style practice on the beloved trash birb!🥺

#netvor #beauty and the beast #panna a netvor

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virulent-scum · 8 months

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I wanted to do fanart for a kickass webtoon called Netvor, because I love Aceline to pieces. She wants to kill monsters and Imrich and I support only one of those ventures if you get my drift ;))))

#panna a netvor #netvor #I ship Netvor and Aceline and I can’t fucking wait for them to get together #I can’t be normal about any of this #I love her and I love her friends and I want them all to be happy

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pinacoladamatata · 1 year

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read netvor. that's my excuse to draw monster hands

#the real secret is you don't need an excuse #i love this bird son #netvor #armel charmant #is that even a tag??#am i alone here? hello?#pina art

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divineandmajesticinone · 10 months

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LA BELLE ET LA BÊTE (1946) dir. Jean Cocteau PANNA A NETVOR (1978) dir. Juraj Herz

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dailyworldcinema · 1 year

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Beauty and the Beast 1979 | dir. Juraj Herz

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talesfromthecrypts · 1 year

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Beauty and the Beast/La Belle et la Bête (1946)

Beauty and the Beast/Panna a netvor (1978)

#beauty and the beast #la belle et la bete #panna a netvor #filmedit #userrobin #tuserlucien #mygifs

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rosesnwater · 4 months

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A limited palet sketch for Canvas Week! A gender bent of my characters from my beauty and the beast series on webtoons.

#beauty and the beast #netvor #comic #panna a netvor #my art #tapas #armel #aceline #art #webtoons

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ibrithir-was-here · 11 months

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Decided to put the 80s Fantasy Book Covers I've done all on one post cuz I'm pretty proud of them/the progress I've made in just a year

Here's the ones for 2023

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@theboarsbride 's haunting gothic tale "The Monster and the Butterfly" which you can read here

@rosesnwater 's lush and lovely "Netvor" a webcomic you can read here

And from last year in 2022

(Also realized both these people are on tumblr so I csn actually tag them and hopefully they like what I've done 😅)

@shannonhale 's amazing "The Goose Girl" which I've loved since discovering it in my middle school library

And @malindalo 's beautiful "Ash" which was the first queer fairytale retelling I ever read and will always have a special place in my heart for that

Definitely recommend reading all of them!

Here's them all together

2023

2022

#my art #fairytale retellings #other people's awesome writing #beauty and the beast retelling #cinderella #beauty and the beast #cinderella retelling #the monster and the butterfly #netvor #the goose girl #the books of bayern #ash #malinda lo #shannon hale #web comics #fairytales #book recs #book covers

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3acej · 7 months

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Commission for @rosesnwater !! Of netvor (beast form < 33333) WAS DUPER FUN TO DRAW!!!!! Making the cape stand out was hopefully a good idea haha

#digital art #netvor #commission #wa hoo!!!

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theboarsbride · 2 years

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Netvor 🥀🐦

A doodle from the other night!!😳

Armel/Netvor belongs to @rosesnwater

PLEASE CHECK "NETVOR" OUT ON WEBTOON AND TAPAS!!!!!

#netvor #panna a netvor #beauty and the beast #monster #gothic #monster boyfriend #bird monster #batb #webtoon #tapas

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misandriste · 10 months

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panna a netvor (1978)

#panna a netvor #zdena studenková #juraj herz #film #filmedit #filmgif #fairytaleedit #fantasyedit #horroredit #perioddramaedit #worldcinemaedit #gifsbymisa

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jeanharlowseyebrows · 10 months

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When you dream about my likeness, you create it. The more ardently you dream, the sooner you will see me. And I will resemble your dream.

Beauty and the Beast | Panna a netvor (1978)

#beauty and the beast #panna a netvor #film #long post #this was sooooooooooo OOOO #i felt about this how i think all of you felt about shape of water #hashtag posting

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lovealtars · 9 months

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My first night here I dreamt that you saved my life. You took me in your arms and carried me to safety.

Panna a netvor | Beauty and the Beast (1978), dir. Juraj Herz

#panna a netvor #beauty and the beast #beauty and the beast 1978 #films #filmedit #filmgifs #horror #moviegifs #1970s #horroredit #horrorfilmgifs

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