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i think it's so funny that robert smirke mentions edmund halley (maxwell rayner) being the one that taught him about the fears, because...simon fairchild was around back then too. he'd been an avatar for longer than halley at that point. and he just decided not to tell smirke. which was iconic of him and honestly halley should've done the same
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murderandcoffee · 8 months
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it’s so fucking funny to me that maxwell rayner was like “heyyyyyyyy jonah, long time no see (get it?) your patron sucks and is nothing compared to mine, but when the darkness swallows us all you’re totally invited to come join me in the tender embrace of the dark!! please leave the eye for me & the dark please please pleaaaaase” like bro fr? that all-seeing twink bussy got him acting unwise
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dcartcorner · 8 months
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Elsewhere AU (bundle 2), ft. Maxwell Rayner
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masao-micchi · 1 year
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they should’ve asked agnes because she kept track
PART 2 HERE
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clairebearsparkles · 1 year
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Here’s a piece of Manuela Dominguez and Maxwell Rayner based on a different artwork I saw. (Ref included under the cut)
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Original painting by Aruntzazu Martinez
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hellenic-whore · 6 months
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Dance moms but it's Elias,Simon fairchild,Maxwell Rayner and Peter Lukas with the younger avatars.
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autisticsupervillain · 9 months
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Jonah Magnus 🤝 Maxwell Rayner: Introduced to the concept of transness by unknowingly stealing a trans man's body.
Jonah condescendingly explaining the concept of trans men to Rayner like he's a fucking idiot, as if he himself didn't have to Eye google what that was:
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Simon explaining to both of them that trans men have always existed and that they're both idiots:
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Simon, Jonah, and Rayner having to explain what transgender is to Peter because he never leaves the fog:
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Jonah and Maxwell getting accosted by transphobes in bathrooms, only to feed them to the Eye/Dark:
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Transphobe tries to start shit with Maxwell and he doesn't even respond. The lights go out for a second and when they come back on the bigot is just gone.
Trsnsphobe tries to start shit with Jonah and he just uses his Eye powers to make them experience all the shame and pain they've put trans people through until they're sobbing on the floor.
Peter now being the only cis guy in the old man squad:
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Peter now being the only cis Avatar on Earth:
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disacurveball · 2 months
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Jonah and the regency crew (sans Smirke, I don’t care for Smirke)
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hatedbyiife · 25 days
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Would rayner/elias be called darkvision or what
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wormconsumer · 2 months
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Based off a post I saw with the idea that Robert Smirke had fourteen friends, each falling too/representing a different entity, with Smirke himself being the Extinction.
To get the obvious ones out of the way: Jonah Magnus as the Eye, Mordechai Lukas as the Lonely, Maxwell Rayner as the Dark, and George Gilbert Scott as the Buried; these ones are all canon. Not directly canon but a pretty reasonable assumption is Simon Fairchild as the Vast; we know Simon had Maxwell Rayner help him with his Awful Deep ritual in 1853, which was only a few years before Smirke died, and Smirke hung out with Rayner a ton, so it makes sense for Simon to be part of the group (though by a different name; he only started going by “Simon Fairchild” in the 1930s). Another fairly reasonable assumption, in my opinion, is John Franklin for the Hunt. Franklin is canonically a Hunt avatar in The Magnus Archives, his real-life timeline overlaps with Smirke and the rest, and Rayner was canonically interested in his expedition, which was probably because he wanted to use Franklin’s knowledge of arctic exploration for his ritual, but could also imply they knew each other, and therefore, Smirke’s gang.
For the Corruption, my first thought was John Amherst, but he only became an avatar during the Second Boer War, which was about half a century after Smirke’s time. Instead, John Snow is a better fit. He was an English physician who lived during the same time as Smirke, and he had something going on; his descendant Neil Thompson has a syringe that belonged to Snow that had Corruption properties, so Snow fits. For the Slaughter, we could go with Charles Fleming. We know he was in China from at least the beginning of the First Opium War in 1839, and Smirke and Jonah and the rest were up and active on their supernatural studies since at least the 1810s, so it’s theoretical Fleming could have hung out with them, even though he didn’t become touched by the Slaughter until he went to China. Maybe he came back later, though he was in China at least until 1862. Alternatively, William Hall, the actual captain of the Nemesis, could be an option, his lifetime overlaps pretty well with Smirke’s, though there is no evidence he interacted with the Slaughter besides his interactions with Fleming and the Nemesis. Still, he was probably a bit more high-society that Fleming, so I kind of prefer him. Finally, for the more reasonable ones, we have Joey Grimaldi for the Stranger. Grimaldi’s timeline overlaps with Smirke’s, and we know he was affected by the Stranger even before he was turned into Nikola Orsinov. The reason I’m choosing Grimaldi instead of Gregor Orsinov or Nikolai Denikin is that we know for sure he was in England while Smirke was, unlike the other two.
Now for the more out-there guesses. For the Flesh, there are a few options. One is Eustace Wick, the Lutheran priest-turned-cannibal, who did live at the same time as Smirke, but he became an avatar in 1832, died in 1845, and has no evidence that he’d even been to England, considering he’s American. The other options would be Benjamin Carlisle, Benjamin’s unnamed wife, or possibly some other relative or descendant of theirs. I find this one the more likely choice, because Jonathan Sims specifically wonders how Benjamin Carlisle’s wife was able to give her statement to the Magnus Institute, considering she starved to death in a cave on the Oregon Trail in 1845, as well as the fact that an apparent descendant of her, Toby Carlisle, is living in England by the 21st Century and has enough of a connection with the Flesh to be pretty severely affected by the failure of the Last Feast ritual. The unnamed Mrs. Carlisle being the Flesh representative does mean she presumably gave in and cannibalized her husband, and the timeline only gives her about a decade to have hung out with the rest before Smirke’s death, but I think that fits, considering what Smirke said about just coming up with theories about the Flesh in his statement.
The Spiral has similarly not a lot to go on. I would just say the Distortion, seeing as it’s an immortal manifestation of the Spiral itself. We know that Ivo Lenshik’s father was tormented by the Distortion in a human form, and apparently Lenshik’s great-uncle did too, implying that the Distortion did assume a humanoid form sometimes, before it was forced to by the failure of the Great Twisting ritual. Plus, Jonah Magnus clearly knows who the Distortion is, which yes, he could have learned at literally any point from the past two hundred years, but seeing as we’ve got nothing else, I’ll choose to believe. For the Web, the only older avatars of the Web we’re aware of would be the historical owners of the house at Hill Top Road. We don’t know who owned it during Smirke’s time; the closest we have are the unnamed blackmailer who died during the English Civil War in the mid-1600s, and Walter Fielding, who died in 1923. Walter’s son and grandson both owned the house for about thirty years before dying, so with the same amount of time applied, Walter couldn’t be our Web avatar. Honestly, the answer might just have to be “whichever Web avatar was owning the house at Hill Top Road during the first half of the 19th Century.”
For the Desolation, we have even less. Diego Molina founded the Cult of the Lightless Flame at some point prior to World War II, but we have no idea when, and it couldn’t have been that long, considering what Eugene Vanderstock says about the immortality of Desolation avatars having some kind of limit. The same is true of the End. The only known End avatar who was alive during Smirke’s time was Nathaniel Thorp, who was a Death at the time, and didn’t become human again until 1970. It’s unlikely that Deaths got breaks to socialize.
So, in summary, we know for sure about:
* Jonah Magnus — The Eye
* Mordechai Lukas — The Lonely
* Maxwell Rayner — The Dark
* George Gilbert Scott — The Buried
We can make some reasonable assumptions about:
* Simon Fairchild — The Vast
* John Franklin — The Hunt
We can make educated guesses about:
* John Snow — The Corruption
* William Hall — The Slaughter
* Joey Grimaldi — The Stranger
We can make complete guesses about:
* Mrs. Carlisle — The Flesh
* The Distortion — The Spiral
* Owner of the house at Hill Top Road — The Web
And we have nothing for:
* The Desolation
* The End
If anyone has ideas or things I missed, let me know.
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thehermitavatar · 10 months
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Tryna figure out the old man for each entity...
The Eye - Jonah Magnus
The Lonely - Peter Lukas
The Web - Raymond Fielding (I think?)
The Stranger - Gregor Orsinov
The Spiral - (Possibly) Gabriel
The Hunt - Trevor Herbert
The Slaughter - Alfred Griftor
The Flesh - Jared Hopworth
The Vast - Simon Fairchild
The Buried - Hezekiah Wakely
The Dark - Maxwell Rayner
The Desolation - Arthur Nolan
The Corruption - John Amherst
The End - Nathaniel Thrope
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last part
s5 jonmartin
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s4 peter lukas
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maxwell rayner
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the distortion
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pretty much most avatars
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jonah after getting arrested
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original elias bouchard
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martin blackwood
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helen cheering melanie on
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next part
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murderandcoffee · 6 months
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dcartcorner · 4 months
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Commission for @chrisis-averted! Based on a couple of frames from PIERRE DE MAERE - Mercredi (between 0:36 and 0:42).
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masao-micchi · 11 months
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Maxwell Rayner : Space sure is dark
Simon Fairchild: and expansive
Peter Lukas: and lonely
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Maxwell: guys i have an idea
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pastellich · 7 months
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Maxwell Rayner, leader of the People's Church of the Divine Host
Pencil and pastel
Check out my other TMA drawings
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