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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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((Fun idle thoughts with Danie

Ghetsis is pretty much impossible to please in some cases.

Based on his room, there was a certain amount of infantilizing happening to N from Ghetsis--likely to preserve his 'pure and innocent' mind and feelings because he's easier to take advantage of that way.

So he always, always told N he would get bigger and stronger and older and smarter and someday he would be King. But no matter what he would always be Ghetsis's baby.

So of course when he hit, say. 10~13 years old. . .he started going into the phase of his life where he's "too old" to do this, or where "that's for children," "you aren't a baby anymore," and so on, both from Ghetsis and from the sages.

The sages told him he was too old to keep calling Ghetsis "Daddy".

Ghetsis agreed. So he called him Father.

Ghetsis disagreed. What's wrong with calling me 'daddy' when you're my son? What does it matter if it's how children talk? You're a child--you're my child. And no matter how old you get you always will be.

And of course in more official Plasma things neither was okay. So he would simply call him Ghetsis, even though Ghetsis often referred to him as his son(sometimes adopted, sometimes step, sometimes foster, sometimes just his son.)

It was inconsistent and Ghetsis had raised him well to hate inconsistency, if he didn't hate it naturally. Eventually it became a problem--he was spoiled given that he was King-to-be. When he got frustrated, it'd become a problem, he'd yell and stamp around and throw a tantrum and they'd argue and Ghetsis would say "you're acting like a child, Natural, would you stop this nonsense!" And N would say "do you want me to be a child or not!? Make up your mind!" But Ghetsis always wants him to be a child--but not like that--

Eventually N kind of cracked the code. 'Father' was what he should default to for the most part. He should refer to Ghetsis as 'Ghetsis' when speaking to others and when in the presence of Plasma members(but not necessarily Sages.) And when it was just them, and perhaps around Anthea and Concordia sometimes, he should say 'Daddy.'

And once he figured that out(and it's a miracle he did considering Ghetsis is contradictory and insatiable and absolutely impossible to understand sometimes) things were more or less straight and they calmed down. As long as they kept those distinctions N could deal with it. And as long as Ghetsis was happy there were no problems.

(It used to be harder for him to call him 'Father' to other people, strangers, but at present that's usually what N says. He was raised to be his father's dear child just like he was raised to be king. . .but being King had been a lie. . .so was that he was his son, his child, his baby a lie too? But a much less dangerous lie--it was the happier of the lies if it was one. He misses his. . .parental figure of various terms of endearment. They didn't get to be a family as much, and he wishes they could. . .so he refers to him often in casual conversation as 'my Father', sometimes specifying 'my Father, Ghetsis'--but when it comes to addressing the in-game events, he still has the 'this is a serious situation' habit of simply calling him Ghetsis. He doesn't know what he wants more.)

(He doesn't know if, if it was just them for a while, he wouldn't call him 'Daddy'--he's not sure he had enough of being Daddy's baby boy, of being allowed to just be a child who had the world decided for him and never a care in the world and not a king, to have a family, and he's not sure if he wants the coddling and babying of Daddy Ghetsis or the respect and acknowledgement of Father Ghetsis. But right now he can't have either one. He's struggling to accept that maybe that's for the best. )

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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((N's void cube is a gift from his mama. He doesn't remember, of course, he was bappy when he got it, but he's had it for as long as he can remember.

As a kid he responded furiously to any attempts to take it away from him, and Ghetsis probably has a scar or two from his biting and scratching. He still doesn't like letting go of it. It's just. . .always been there. He can't imagine getting rid of it or not having it on his person/nearby.

It'd be like cutting his hair short. Superficial as it technically is, something would just be missing and it'd feel wrong.))

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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Would Ghetsis, in his “oourhg gotta teach this feral child how to be a person” lessons have been,, let’s say ‘not very understanding’ of his son’s behaviors? Or would the “stop fucking flapping your hands, it’s unseemly” thing have been part of the being king lessons? Basically how does he feel abt N in this regard; he’s still the precious golden baby boy, surely, but??? This is not a well phrased question sorry

((Absolutely. Ghetsis, especially before he realized oh that’s a neurological issue, not a Pokémon-upbringing one, had little to no tolerance for N’s neurodivergent behaviors. N was definitely restricted from various stimming behavior, including flapping and verbal tics and noise-making that wasn’t being used for some communicative purpose. Despite his research(study of? maybe Ghetsis has a Doctorate??) of psychology, it didn’t really occur to him that N’s behavior was from his having autism as opposed to, y’know, being a wolf child from the forest.

[As a note, I’m just covering things off the top of my head so, 1) sloppy as usual, 2) probably not well worded or fully correct due to it being 4/5am as I write this and not being in a heavy researching mood to look up more things that should be addressed. So if there’s any other particular behavior or other thing(s) you’d like to know about or suggest, lmk! And feel free to correct me, as I am a sleepy vee who is certain there’re a lot of mistakes in this.]

[obvious warnings for ableism and child abuse behind the cut.]

N would have been discouraged from things like hand-flapping and touching things for texture-based reasons--possibly did that shit where, to discourage him from putting his hands all over the place to analyze his surroundings, pressed his hands against sandpaper, or otherwise would slap at his hands to keep them from being put into uses that were ‘abnormal.’ On a similar note, he wasn’t as accommodating to his needs in terms of clothing choices at first, being annoyed by his pickiness and things like an insistence on wearing one thing over and over even if it wasn’t clean(or, in many cases, not wearing anything at all, which was fine except when he tried ti go into the hallway with his naked little kid ass out) but eventually got his tailors to make all of his clothes to his comfort level and made sure any clothes were of materials/textures/etc he was comfortable in. However, he wouldn’t tolerate old clothes being kept after they were run thin or otherwise at a point where he’d discard them. Ghetsis likely also had no problem holding N down and undressing him if he wanted something off of him and he was resistant.

As he began to understand and find uses for his divergent behaviors, he began to allow the things like touching his surroundings to pass them off as his displeasure and discomfort with many artificial things and human society and the like being a sign of its threat to Pokémon-kind.

He was also resistant in regards to food textures and the like and still often gripes when N doesn’t want to eat something on the basis of not liking how it feels--however, of course, only he’s allowed to do this, and he’ll demand the food be altered or replaced to fit N’s preferences. ‘It’s annoying, but only I can feel that way’ is a constant theme of how Ghetsis handles N’s behavior. N is his King and Hero and golden baby, so he needs to be spoiled and treated how he wants.

Ghetsis would force affection on him or get annoyed if he did things like tried to worm his way out of hugs or other physical contact when Ghetsis decided he wanted them. This actually never changed. At present, he’ll still likely force himself on N affectionately. He does also wait for or demand that N come to him when he wants attention(holds his arm open to tell him to come close enough to hold, air kisses if he wanted to smooch him, etc) as N would have learned to do this to avoid drawing his ire even when he didn’t want the contact himself. And, of course, the guilt tripping of “what I don’t get [affection]?” “come here and [affection] your Father.” and so on, making it something he’s owed. I can kind of see him unlearning forced contact, but he’d still be pretty annoyed and grumpy if he didn’t get what he asked for.

(Occasionally said affection was allowed to extend to inhuman behavior both to and from N, with things like playful/affectionate licking or biting. Is that weird? My dad would do that to me when I was a kid, so I don’t find it weird. It wasn’t anywhere bad, so. I imagine N may have found this slightly more tolerable as it was more of what he was used to in the wild.)

One thing he’d tolerate more out of convenience was that I imagine N’s hair was a matted mess when he first came to live with him, and of course N hates having it loose. To this day he often wears some of his hair in a matted style. Having his hair touched is okay, especially when he’s being bathed or pet, but if you so much as think too hard about brushing or cutting it N will go ballistic in a bad way. As a result, Ghetsis didn’t cut his hair much, just tried to keep the matted, locked mess clean and somewhat orderly as it grew out and did his best to brush and clean his hair as it grew in. The weight and pressure changed when his hair was cleaned and brushed out and allowed to grow loose again, which is where his wearing baseball caps a good amount comes in.

N’s void cube is a comfort object and he can’t imagine having it away from him too long or having it too far away from him in general. This had to be put up with to a certain degree because attempts to remove it or put it far away or take it would make N get violent, biting and hitting and scratching until he felt it was safe again. (This was a problem when the initial chain holding it snapped and Ghetsis took it away to put it back on something stronger so N could wear it again.)

Sensory overload was understood but also not tolerated much. Ghetsis would, of course, scold anybody who was inflicting too much noise or anything on N and making him uncomfortable, but if it was Ghetsis’s fault it was N’s fault instead. Screaming or crying from harsh noises wasn’t well tolerated, and certain noises(such as banging his cane on a hard floor) were used as punishment or ‘alert’ sort of sounds to tell him to pay attention or that he did something wrong. If N would not calm down, he might have been locked away in a dark room(or, like, a closet or something) to calm down(of course, he was mostly just frightened or too suddenly deprived of sensory stimulation and it didn’t help much, but eventually he did quiet down or Ghetsis would let him out otherwise.)

If he was ever especially physically violent with N it was always in private. He was more psychologically and emotionally abusive.

As he understood more that it was Autism and/or other mental issues, he still felt it was something he could remove from him by not tolerating it, but he also increasingly found ‘uses’ for N’s sensitivities--and, of course, the positive aspects were valued and praised and permitted. As time went on he’d learn to ‘combat’ N’s behavior more peacefully(and he’d apologize if he was harsh or violent--of course, it was framed as ‘if you hadn’t done this. . .’ and made to be N’s fault and the actual meaning of the apologies is questionable, but I digress) and discourage it more gently--but ultimately he tried to get rid of what he didn’t like.

Of course, any especially. . .idk how to word it ‘strong’??? Neurodivergent behavior was not tolerated, so anything below “high functioning” would have absolutely been completely untolerated unless a ‘use’ for it was found.

. . .so, yeah, Ghetsis was not very accepting or tolerant of most of N’s behavior until he found worth in it or got accustomed to it, or at least until he understood it as ‘autism, not animalism.’ However, this intolerance would not be tolerated in others. If anyone tried to mistreat or deny N his needs and feelings, they’d be in trouble. ONLY Ghetsis may mistreat N or try and shape who he is and how he acts and feels. And that includes ‘getting rid of’ his autistic symptoms unless he otherwise approves of actions or words.

I can kind of see him getting better, especially with his own mind and body deteriorating and so on, but at the moment he’s still mostly shitty about anything he can’t control or fix or that isn’t up to his standard. He’s the kind of weird guy who managed to study psychology and actually become a doctor on the subject!! but still doesn’t always accept modern understanding or treatment methods lmao. Ghetsis picks and chooses what he decides is true and it can change on a goddamn dime lolol

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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Lord? Not sure I'll ever understand someone who doesn't get uncomfortable with such lofty titles. Was there ever a time when being referred to as someone's superior made you uncomfortable?

“Oh? What is there to be uncomfortable about? I suppose being upheld in such a way is a respect I’m deserving of and accustomed to given my typical social positions, so being referred to with any superior title has never caused me any trouble, or discomfort no! I quite enjoy it and appreciate it.

“I suppose the closest was when I was first learning Kantonese and visiting the area--it’s fairly common to refer to older, adult men you don’t know as ‘ojisan’--which means ‘grandfather’ or ‘uncle’ in other occasions. I hadn’t been informed of that, so it was somewhat uncomfortable in that I didn’t fully understand what was being said--and that I was in my 20′s at the time, so being called ‘uncle’ and ‘grandfather’ was heavily offbase. However, it was all forgotten when I was informed of the other meaning!”

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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((Ghetsis is just Colress's science experiment sugar daddy.))

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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Topic Meme: His mental state (I’m curious, seeing as he thought my very-real muse was a hallucination)

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Ghetsis is well into his 60′s approximately--which honestly, according to my father’s nurses and such, wasn’t that old. Nonetheless, the guy’s had two severe psychological breakdowns resulting in stress-induced strokes. A stroke cuts off the oxygen to parts of your brain and when that part eventually suffocates or is otherwise heavily damaged from lack of oxygen, I’m sure you can imagine what that’ll do to somebody’s body let alone someone’s brain.

On top of that, there’s the dementia. That’s why he perceived Brett as a hallucination at first--Brett was out of place in an otherwise normal setting, a child he didn’t recognize in his hiding place. Normally the Shadow Triad prevent any intruders or threats from getting anywhere near the hideaway, assuming one even stumbles into the magic slip space that puts you on the same plane of existence as it in the first place. So. Strange child where a strange child would, logically, not be? Probably a hallucination.

(A lot of rambling under the cut, talk of mental illness, physical illness, disability, real life parental death. . .just a lot of stuff, probably a lot of nonsense, some of it a mite personal as a former caretaker. I’d’ve put icons in to space things out but. I’m kinda tired after writing all of this lmao also I have to fast for a thing tomorrow so I’m just gonna. Head off once I post this and gets oem rest.TL;DR: google ‘symptoms of dementia’ and ‘effects of stroke’ and you’ll get a good idea of Ghetsis’s mental state at any given point in time.)

At least a small child is the least of his hallucinations. He has them now and then, or otherwise misperceives reality or misspeaks about his perceptions, and they can vary from little things to big things. They’re usually nothing major--something is there that isn’t or he hears sounds that aren’t real. Sometimes he sees people or his mind misproccesses one person or thing as another(sometimes he refers to the Shadow Triad as N, Anthea, and Concordia for example) and he just kinda rolls with it sometimes.

Other times he tries to ignore it until it goes away or tries to ‘fix it’ one way or another. Major things are more along the lines of that he’s displaced from where he actually is, is floating, his environment is drastically changing--stuff that majorly impacts his ability to proceed. But it’s usually like. Galvantula crawling on him or voices and things like that. Stuff that you might notice him responding to, but that can be dismissed or that he shrugs off.

If he hallucinates something detailed and realizes it(because, y’know, it doesn’t make sense, for example,) he usually just rolls with it until it ends--his mind doesn’t take well to being ignored or dismissed and can ratchet up the awful if it isn’t acknowledged, hence why he decided ‘well, there’s a hallucination child here, i’d better just acknowledge him’ lol.

In general, Ghetsis’s memory is not good. Oftentimes it’s inconsistent--sometimes he remembers some things but not others, sometimes he remembers everything, sometimes he doesn’t even know who he is. Now and then he’ll remember things in one state of mind, forget them in another, and if he goes back to the previous state of mind or a different one, he has no problem remembering the previous thing. But he has no control over this. While he mostly remembers more recent years events, he might struggle with some before them--or he might randomly drop one memory or process or another.

Sometimes these memory lapses result in things like not remembering what year it is and as such not knowing how old he is. He may interpret himself as being younger because his mind just. . .receded back to that point in his understanding. If you ask him where he is, he might say he’s at the Harmonia Estate even though that’s completely off base. He’ll give you a radically incorrect number if asked for his age. He’ll say he has no children. He won’t remember what Team Plasma is.

Sometimes his mind reconciles things like his height in relation to other people and things and he doesn’t question them at all. For example, he could see N and his mind says ‘that’s Natural. That’s your son.’ but rather than ‘he’s in his early 20′s. he’s the hero of ideals. he betrayed you. he abandoned you. you hate him. you miss him. you wish you had your son back’ his process says ‘he’s seven years old. he’s just learning to read. he learned to do a cartwheel yesterday. he’s having a hard time with the studies Gorm is going through with him, but for now he’s okay with the others. He falls down everytime he gets on his skateboard but he always laughs and gets back on it’ and he’ll treat N as though he’s a child. He’ll acknowledge that N is getting big or getting heavy if he has to acknowledge his appearance, but his mind’ll just kinda. Make that make sense to him.

There’s not really any way to snap him out of this--sometimes he can be led back to a proper psychological state, other times you’ve just gotta wait it out. Ideally, let him sleep and he’ll be better when he wakes up.

There are days where he’s in clearly awful condition. Sometimes he can’t talk or acknowledge anything, just completely unresponsive. Other times it seems like nothing was ever wrong with his mind in the first place.

As you can imagine, that’s mostly just processing things. . .his already horrifically inconsistent personality that he changes to befit the situation and person he’s speaking to is now even more inconsistent and he’s got little to no control over it. Oftentimes he’ll be himself to some degree. Other times he might be horrifically depressed or lost and reclusive or sorry and miserable. . .sometimes he’ll be emotional and wild--and he’ll lash out aggressively if anybody tries to help him, even if he clearly needs it. He might not remember his interests or his relationships with people or be able to focus. . .he’s all over the place, although I’m still kinda tentative about portraying it.

A lot of it is inspired by my dad and his condition when he was alive and I was taking care of him. So while sometimes I may laugh at it sometimes or occasionally use it for comedic effect, honestly part of me does want to portray a lot of these struggles he has realistically--but I’m also a very ‘laugh at everything because what else are you gonna do be miserable all the time?’ type of person(or i try to be--I find it important to see the comedy in everything because honestly life is ridiculous and there’s no reason not to laugh at it or enjoy it as long as you also accept the severity of it) and I worry I’d portray something too comically or be interpreted as making a joke even when I’m not.

. . .But, yeah, Ghetsis’s brain is fucked up basically. Look up what happens to stroke or seizure patients and the effects of dementia and you’ll get a decent grasp of what it’s like to be my Ghetsis in the present day.

Despite it all, he’s still Ghetsis. . .but between age and arrogance and madness, he’s lost a lot of his ability to give a fuck and he just. Does whatever he wants within his ability. Boundaries? Filters? Often completely absent. So sometimes he’s Ghetsis--master manipulator, King in personality and intentions, regal and serious and calm and strategic and careful and classy and elegant and deceptive--and sometimes he’s Ghetsis--Professional Fuck-Upper of Shit who constantly has Break My Stride by Matthew Wilder playing in his own head who just does whatever and exists to piss people off and have fun. But the thing is? Ghetsis has always been somebody even his closest people couldn’t tell the personality of. What he’s like, who he is, it escaped even the sages. It escaped everybody that this man was evil for literal years.

So in a weird way, he’s exactly the same. . .just a little more extreme and spiteful. Normally he’s a liar because it helps him fit smoothly into society without suspicion, but now sometimes he’s brutally honest and you realize how disturbed he is, how fucked what happens in his head is.

. . . . . .And yet. He’s bounced back from so many things before. He’s been a radically confusing and difficult and inconsistent person before.

Sometimes you can’t help but think ‘this is a trick too.’

Either way. . .he’s a mess. You’ll almost always still be able to see that he’s Ghetsis in his thoughts and actions and words, but sometimes he’s. . .different. Sometimes that’s just Extra Ghetsis, and sometimes you see what’s beneath the Narcissism and he cries and apologizes and struggles and lets himself be helped and asks for help and says he just wanted to help let him help how can he help he doesn’t want to be useless he doesn’t want to be broken let him prove he exists and functions even if it’s just to himself. Better yet, let him die. He can’t live like this anymore. He’s not living. He hasn’t been living for years, he’s a broken, worthless entity and he just doesn’t want to be anymore. Those’re still rare sides of him to see--you’re more likely to get completely unresponsive, mute, dissociative, confused old man type Ghetsis than self-loathing Ghetsis who regrets his actions and who he is and has been and what he’s done.

But yeah. Ghetsis’s mental state is. Not great! It’s much worse than he lets on most of the time! His physical state is pretty poor, too, although that varies too. Some days he can walk without assistance, some days he needs his cane, a walker, a wheelchair, some days he’s bedbound completely and if he tries to use his leg(s) he’ll just wind up falling down. Sometimes he can speak with little to no problem, sometimes he can’t do anything but mutter nonsensically, sometimes he can’t even make sounds. He’s just. . .not well. But somehow he’s still recovering. One could suppose it’s simply because he’s Ghetsis and he’s always been a little. . .powerful. Ethereal. Magical. Special. A cut above the rest.

Like my dad, he’s been told or had his caretakers told many, many times he probably wouldn’t make it more than a few years, months, weeks, he’d be lucky if he lived through the night.

But Yveltal be damned, he’s still here.

And he’s gonna be here for a while, I imagine.

If he gets his way, he’ll be here forever.

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((Ghetsis believes humans to be the highest power in this world.

He acknowledges that Legendary Pokémon are powerful, but also can’t help but notice that Pokémon, since the dawn of man, have worked for and alongside humans at their own wills to the benefit of the humans. He can’t help but notice that in the past, and even in the present, Pokémon would take on human form to walk among them, to live or play as humans. He can’t help but notice that even Legendary Pokémon choose humans as emissaries and representatives in this world.

And today they have technology, Pokéballs, that can capture and tame Pokémon, incline them to obey the trainer by whom they are owned.

And with their mass production came the Trainer Boom, and now anybody can own Pokéballs, Pokémon, some don’t need them at all!

And then there was the creation of the Master Balls which can capture any Pokémon without fail. . . .

Some heroes, heralds, and the like have taken to capturing their respective Legendary or Mythical Pokémon and carting them around with them, even though it’s not the most known practice, and many allow them to roam free, but. . . .

Ghetsis sees things like this: If humans can capture what once were gods, if the gods and the creatures that can manipulate the earth within an instant can be captured and tamed and are happy to obey humans

does that not make humans the highest power there is?

These are the preachings of Plasma’s cult side. Humanity is the highest good. The self above all else. Humans have evolved to a world of godlike power.

But there are humans who are chosen by the forces of nature, the powers that be--and as one of those, Ghetsis holds himself, and much of the Plasma Cult holds him, as their ‘god,’ the god of Unova where the Dragons(whom of which he is blood bound to, and he represents The Original Dragon of Unova, Kyurem,) once were.

And is any other human of that great power preaching such a thing, making such waves, able to manipulate people like Ghetsis does and change the world the ways he has? Perhaps so, but Ghetsis stands above all others as the one to see that humanity has reached a point that deserves to be deified,

and so the most dedicated among them, and Ghetsis himself, see Ghetsis as the Holy Father of the Human Pantheon.

He certainly has a lot to back up that he’s some higher power. He was rejected by the dragons, but left alive where others would have had been eliminated for their failures. So he was meant to live, and the Dragons themselves acknowledged this. As Harmonias used to(though this is struck from most historical record,) he has magic, more powerful magic than anybody in the Harmonia line has had for hundreds of years. His son can speak to Pokémon! He’s a genius!

They love and fear and exalt and follow. Because he’s able to make so many do so, so many follow his word, able to bend hearts and minds to his will--

Whether or not this is human ingenuity or godlike power doesn’t matter. He’s done things higher powers do. He stands before humans and they kneel--and those who don’t kneel cower--and those who don’t cower rebel.

And those who rebel are dealt with in time.

Ghetsis doesn’t, or rarely, directly claims himself a god even to the cult--but a representative of a Pokémon deified, and a powerful and intelligent human himself. So the cult doesn’t center around him as god, but as its Teacher, their Father, the one who teaches them that they are more powerful than “only human” implies and the idea of humanity as godliness through evolution and intelligence and technology.

And that, perhaps, these should be limited only to responsible ones, like themselves, who know and understand their power--so perhaps humans should be separated from Pokémon lest the ones who cannot be trusted with the understanding of godhood abuse their powers with their foolishness.

. . .the truly cultish side of Plasma, I imagine, is like that. But the whole thing can be rather cult-like internally. Externally they typically come off as extreme Pokémon rights activists(see: PETA, although present OG Plasma is really trying to clean things up and actually do good, with varying distrust from the public), up until game events revealed Ghetsis’s true intentions, of course.

(Actually, many still don’t actually know what Ghetsis’s true intentions were--his charges were lessened from the first incident due to lack of evidence and testimony in favor of his more major, quietly kept crimes, and his involvement in Neo Plasma entirely is also publically unproven beyond word of mouth(even though those mouths include the Protag and Colress), not to mention Ghetsis couldn’t be found afterwards. So the views and understandings and beliefs are all over the place, but he is acknowledged as a criminal by the Unovan public at large, I imagine. Just to varying degrees.)

. . .I went a little off subject there. But. Yeah. Plasma Cult side(which I should probably give an official name) stuff is like that.

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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[Continued from here with @generic-oc ! I knew it was you after the discord talk lol]

"well you see i never told N about those"

"stop asking so many questions dodging the truth is annoying"

"Human-made Pokémon. . . ." He sighed. "That. . .depends on their sentience, I suppose. Many of them were created and programmed specifically for work functions. . .which is cruel in and of itself, a birth for slavery. However, many of these have come to live independent lives the wild--but some also thrive off of things like electricity in quantities best found in power plants. . .they've grown to human dependence, or were constructed with it in mind.

"In that case, I would have to discuss it with N. Ideally, and I think he would agree, if a Pokémon--individually or as a species--has developed, been bred for, or been made for dependence beyond a quickly reversible point or a place for them could not be found in the wild, they would remain in official care. This way they could be overseen and rehabilitated for without risk of misuse and not be removed from sources of their strength and power, such as electrical sources.

"Although I admit I worry. . .Natural may not have a favorable view of artificial Pokémon and may see eradication as a better solution for them than other options would be--putting them out of their misery, so to speak. But I think, so long as he could communicate with them, they would be welcome under his care. They deserve freedom as well, however it needs to be understood what freedom is best for them."

#generic oc #headcanon | the horror that he brings the horror of his sting the unholiest of kings #((if this doesn't make sense i wrote this when i was a big sneepy))

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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((It is incredibly hard to tell how Ghetsis feels towards most people for the most part.

Antagonizing is just as likely an expression of affection as anything else.

He is just as quick to take on the role of caretaker with somebody as he is to emotionally or physically take advantage of them

If he hates you, he'll still probably be nice until his temper is Gone

He'd abuse his own kids for the same things he praised them for sometimes. The man is impossible.

He likes having control and power and influence over others, especially younger or troubled people, especially children because they're very easy to use, so he'll befriend and dad people--plus he just kinda likes being a dad now and then. Shame he wasn't much of a dad for his own damn kids half the time--had to raise them to be kings and goddesses and ninjas or some shit instead.))

#Headcanon | The Horror That He Brings The Horror Of His Sting The Unholiest Of Kings

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oppressiveliberator · 5 years

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((What sort of clothes does current Ghetsis wear out?))

((Due to his height and general size(and taste in clothing and social status) much of Ghetsis’s clothes have been tailored to fit him. When he dresses to his preference, what he wears is very much religiously and regally influenced--cloaks, capes, religious habits, gowns, military dress uniform type of things. . . .

Of course, that’s all very extravagant and very obvious. He can’t dress that way in present day or it’ll draw too much attention to him. . . .

In the house, Ghetsis often wears nightgowns or other drapey, soft gowns, comfortable things like that that won’t restrict his movement too much, preferably in victorian styles. Occasionally he’ll go outside in these, but not usually outside the slip space.

Outside the slip space, Ghetsis often wears smart casual attire, as he doesn’t like looking like “a commoner” or “trash,” y’know? Casual suits, button up shirts, maybe polos. The occasional more casual jacket/sweater, and now and then suit jackets, vests, things of that nature. He likes to look somewhat formal, look a bit dressy, y’know? But I also like the image of him wearing like. . .a baseball cap and a hoodie and looking slouchy and comfy. It’d be much harder to recognize him that way lol.

I can’t see him wearing jeans/denim unless they’re like. Nice. No washed jeans, y’know? But he prefers pants. He’s comfortable wearing tighter things if his top is longer, like if he were wearing hose, but otherwise doesn’t like tight pants or anything. They restrict his movement too much and he finds their look somewhat unappealing. I’m hard pressed to imagine him in shorts but at the same time. . .especially since 1) he loves making people uncomfortable and his old man legs in shorts might do that 2) he used to play basketball and he loved the little basketball shorts. And he was born in the 40′s, so he wore like, the short basketball shorts. Obvs his legs were nicer back then, but if it’s hot enough out maybe he’ll slap on some knee length shorts. . .but he’s not opposed to going shorter.

He has his fair share of elder adaptive clothing, but for the most part those look like regular clothes.

His shoes all ideally need to be slip resistant given that he’s prone to falls.

Now, it’s also important to note. . .Ghetsis does like a little bit of flashiness to his looks. Not quite flamboyance, but a little loudness, some uniqueness, or something to draw the eye a bit--but he has to be careful about that still. The occasional patterned clothing is nice. He’d definitely have a sort of New York street style kinda look--unique and personalized and chill.

But he does like gowns as well--long shirts and so on. In fact he rather prefers them to wearing pants. I imagine he doesn’t wear them out much because it’s ‘not masculine’ and it’s a bit more attention drawing, a man like him in a gown or long shirt or dress.

He can get away with dressing like a religious person like a priest or the like. Since Harmonias are also heavily associated with Unova’s local legendaries and are the religious leaders for them of sorts, he can somewhat get away with it even more because he looks like someone from his family and people won’t think too much, though they may look because ‘oh, a Harmonia? Here?’ since they basically have their own town lol. . . .

He likes clothes with frills, too. . .stuff that has a more archaic styled look, when men had more decorative attires and the like. If it looks like something you’d see on a priest/healer or maybe a mage in an rpg or a jrpg, he’d probably like it, but it’s not the kind of thing he can really be in public wearing.

Now and then, though, especially if he’s going out at night or not going somewhere too public, he wears his older clothes, though, or other things more to his tastes.

As for accessories, Ghetsis isn’t one for hats. However, because of the length of his hair he does often have ribbons or hairties in his hair, maybe the occasional barrette, too. He wears gloves fairly often, at least on his right arm, but usually on both if he’s going out in public and wearing them as he doesn’t want to draw suspicion to his one injured arm. However, he does usually wear a cast or bandages and keep his arm in an arm sling so he can brush it off as being broken. He almost always has some sort of eye visual on him, and since his robe/cloak/etc would be too obvious with the large eyes decorating them, he usually has on a necklace or a bracelet with an eye pendant, although this may be hidden from view.

His wardrobe tag tends to have more aesthetic and silhouette type of things but there’s maybe some passably casual type things that could be drawn from in there?? Idk what’s in any tags anymore lol

#Wardrobe | No You Ain't Supposed To Put On Your Devil Suit When You Come Up In The Church Young Man #Headcanon | The Horror That He Brings The Horror Of His Sting The Unholiest Of Kings #Asks | The Truth Won’t Save You Now #long post #okay to reblog #((if you wanted to do that for some reason))#((i feel like i went off topic about 8 times but for some reason i'm sleepy so idc lol))#mortgage kin #((thank you very much for the ask❣))

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Have you ever gone anywhere in the Kalos region? I feel like the beauty and royal atmosphere would make it a place of interest for you no?

Years of Life Experience | Ask 'Have You Ever’ Questions!

“But of course! Kalos is certainly someplace that I’ve visited plenty of times in my travels, and each was as wonderful as the last, if not moreso. It has rather fascinating mythologies--Life, Death, and the balance of such in the world. . . . And I’ve made some lovely friends there, as well!

“In fact, it’s of note that the Parfum Palace garden has statues of Zekrom and Reshiram! Unova and Kalos--my family and Kalos’s royal family--have a history of sorts. Some trips can feel like a visit to the most distant of relatives, myahaha.”

#Asks | The Truth Won’t Save You Now #Headcanon | The Horror That He Brings The Horror Of His Sting The Unholiest Of Kings #Worldbuilding | Show Me Where Can Do How Can Do It Who Can Do This With You #((i spent like an hour going and reading the bulbapedia pages of the movies that the kalos mythicals are in))#((to figure out if they have any real significance))#((i mean ghetsis would be interested in magearna and hoopa))#((but volcanion and diancie. . .are still interesting but not as much so))#gruntiestgrunt #((thank you very much for the ask❣))

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((Honestly over time i may let Ghetsis have back some of his Pokémon.

I'd kinda like to portray them, too, in the wild or otherwise--for example his Drapion managed to hitch a ride to somewhere beachy, maybe Alola; his Hydreigons live at Victory Road or somewhere mountainous, maybe where the Castle ruins are; his Volcarona is actually on the roof of his hideaway at present and follows the Shadow Triad around from a distance; his Eelektross is honestly wherever it can swim, walk, and levitate, so it could be in Atlantis for all we know; and I haven't decided for the others(Bisharp, Toxicroak, Palpitoad, Bouffalant, Cofagrigus.)

Attempts to capture them will result in the usual error message on the Pokéball saying the Pokémon is already captured by another trainer. Since they're not wild, they are a bit calmer and can be approached with less fear of hostility than most wild Pokémon, save for the Hydreigon who're always hostile towards many things in motion by default. Because they belong to Ghetsis and have been captured in Pokéballs, they do have an attachment to him still.

Eelektross is very, very friendly and can be approached with ease, though you may get 'hugged' and/or kissed if you do.

Drapion is also kind of friendly, but in a more mischevious way. Chances are it'll pinch your ankles. It'll attack if you threaten it or try and grab/move it, but it can be convinced to be more passive.

Ghetsis's Trainer ID is still registered to them because they still belong to him and are registered to his Pokéballs, however attempts to check it will have the name and number come up as [CLASSIFIED] due to Ghetsis's being a high profile and probably interpol-wanted criminal. If you have clearance it'll show you that it belongs to Ghetsis and possibly other things depending on how much clearance it is that you have. Otherwise most if not all of the information registered to it will only give you [CLASSIFIED].

And, of course, you're welcome to seek them out, send them or other npcs asks, send in messages as them for responses like interactions he's had with them[there's a fair chance of Pokémon abuse with some of them and a high chance with Hydreigon], and, ofc, if you portray any of these Pokémon yourself and would want to, we could talk about them being played by someone/people.

Kyurem I'll almost certainly leave to someone else to RP, but it will probably be a minor/referenced NPC, whether or not he fully awakens it again))

#Headcanon | The Horror That He Brings The Horror Of His Sting The Unholiest Of Kings #long post #Worldbuilding | Show Me Where Can Do How Can Do It Who Can Do This With You #Plotting | All This Life Shrouded In A Veil of Deception And Association #Team | Now My Play Pen's The Lion's Den

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What were Ghetsis’ parents like? How did they raise him?

((I feel like I may have strayed away from answering a little bit. . .so if you want more information, feel free to ask!! but uh hopefully this answers the question at least a little bit!

also i am so so sorry if this doesn’t cut on mobile i tried

Ghetsis's parents were somewhere along the lines of your typical members of the Harmonia family. Serious and industrious, Harmonias tend to be ambitious and goal-oriented with a good amount of perfectionism and maybe a bit too much traditionalism. No room for failure. Set up for success.

Ghetsis was raised like many of his family were--pushed into doing this, trying that, pursuing one thing or another. He absolutely minded it, but if he made a fuss, his parents, hell a good amount of his whole family, would make a fuss right back, and he learned to play the part of a normal and good little boy--but he was happy to do the things he was interested in, like music. Most if not all Harmonia children are pushed towards musical arts in their upbringing, unless they show skill in another field(especially the arts.) Ghetsis learned to sing and play instruments, and because he actually enjoyed doing so, he excelled at it and was held in high regard by his parents and older relatives.

And even the things he wasn't so interested in, he, for his own pride and with the encouragement and eyes of his family on him, saw little room for error or failure. He was the best, and his family proclaiming him a prodigy among an already prodigal family, his parents pushing him more and more. . .it was stressful, but pleasing, the attention and admiration and pride.

They remained blissfully unaware to Ghetsis's antisocial behaviors. The stress he felt manifested in abusive and manipulative behavior towards Pokémon and other people where he could get away with it--and as the golden child(and eventually as he realized his inert, passive magical influence over people) he could get away with a lot. Of course, atop that, Ghetsis learned to act very well--as sometimes he couldn't get away with everything, and to be less inhibited he could easily play the part of a normal son. They didn't know how bad Ghetsis had gotten until, well, around BW, if they were alive at the time. (I'm still undecided as to whether or not they're still alive--people in the Pokémon world probably live pretty long lives, y'know?)

Ghetsis was raised by his parents, his family, and their house staff--the Harmonias are a massive and wealthy family, so Ghetsis never truly learned want. He had the best tutors money and influence could buy. If he wanted toys? Games? Food? Trips? Friends? He had them. They found his lack of overall interest in Pokémon as pets a bit odd--they had plenty around, they had plenty of familial ties to their Pokémon, plenty of relatives who worked with them or were skilled trainers, coordinators, actors, athletes with their Pokémon and Ghetsis didn't really seem to care for them much outside of their battling abilities and on a behavioral level and how they could benefit him. When it came to pokémon knowledge, training, he remained a genius and remained skilled. With that in mind, they figured his lack of interest was simply a focused mindset on work and improvement.

Of course, when his passive ability to get his way didn't work as well, they could also be quite strict with him. Asking questions, doing prohibited things, talking back, getting dirty, making messes, breaking rules, these all were, of course, met with discipline, though not nearly as bad as Ghetsis would come to discipline others. Ghetsis, until he learned to play the part of the perfect son, would get into his fair share of troubles for his backtalk and smart mouth and aggressive, tantrum-like demands.

A good son, a good Harmonia, wouldn't act like that. For a while, he was a spoiled brat. While they were wealthy and had a background in the politics and royalty of the region, as power began to become more democratic they dropped their regality--but Ghetsis learned of it in his studies, both personal and tutored, and began to lionize himself. This calm and powerful royal attitude only brought his parents more pride. Perhaps he'd grow into law or politics! He could be a top tier trainer, an Elite Four member, perhaps open a gym or even become Champion! With his skills in the arts, he could become a singer, a musician, with his practical knowledge, a scientist, a mathematician, a doctor--his parents and family at large made sure he knew the great many things he could do and could be growing up. His tutoring got more intense--he quickly grasped the 'elementary' and middle school requirement levels of schooling, and did high school and even some college equivalent work until he was old enough to head out on his journey as a Pokémin trainer.

They were strict and demanding and pushy, but proud of the prodigal son they had.

Heavily being raised around his own family members, Ghetsis gained little tolerance for people unlike them--or, rather, unlike him. So long as the flaws and idiocies Ghetsis pointed out weren't those of his parents, they remained proud. The lack of exposure to the vast and variant world didn't occur to them as being dangerous--Ghetsis learned about the world in books and media anyway.

Ghetsis never had want for anything and was scarcely denied anything.

Except for magic.

The worst punishment he ever remembered receiving from his parents was when he was some 3-5 years old and first became aware of his own magical abilities. They were quick and aggressive with shutting it down, telling him not to do, pursue, or think about it ever again. They themselves thought magic to be unnatural for humans--something Pokémon had, and as such something inhuman, barbaric, inappropriate. They were rather religious also--and so humans using the powers Pokémon could. . .it was a bit blasphemous to them.

Ghetsis learned that the higher powers--be they the spirits in everything the more Native Unovan side of his family spoke of, or Arceus or the Original Dragon or Zekrom or Reshiram or God or whatever else--made the rules. Below them were other, human higher powers. . .and he didn't understand. Was shut down for his blasphemy.

They control Pokémon. Why view them as gods?

Most of the Harmonia family was religious. They figured he would grow out of it in time, so he was scolded until he learned to behave, though it was one of the few things he never really bothered to fake. He acknowledged them as stronger, creatures to be respected, whether he believed that or not, but never fully acknowledged them as gods, so much as controllers of many parts of nature. It was close enough for his parents.

All in all? Ghetsis was very much spoiled. Ghetsis got what he wanted from his parents and family. He was the prodigal golden child and he could get away with damn near anything as a result. They raided him somewhat religiously and never really grasped that it didn't quite click to him that some Pokémon were to be revered as gods.

They were pushy and encouraged him to pursue any field he wanted to--which led to ghetsis having a lot of fingers in everything and great pressure on him. They didn't notice the stress this caused because Ghetsis never showed it. They never noticed his antisocial and other behavioral/emotional problems because ghetsis learned to hide them to get his way. He was skilled, genius, confident, he was the best son they could ask for(aside from things like doing chores and the like but they paid people for that stuff.) He could have anything he wanted and do anything he wanted so long as he respected them, respected the deity Pokémon, and didn't use magic. They shoved their interests at him, paraded him around. Damn near the whole family used him as a model for what a good child should have been.

In the end, Ghetsis turned ten, got his trainer's license. and set off on his own journey. He was offered the best and strongest and best bred Pokémon money could buy for his starter--Pokémon already well above the strengths of his peers and then some--but he humbly started small with a Tynamo he would raise himself. His parents frowned upon this--a Tynamo was so weak and incapable! He could at least get a head start with an Eelektrik, something that wasn't a baby that couldn't even learn moves via TM/HM, but he wanted to raise it and strengthen it all by himself--he didn't need their help with training. He was an "adult" now. He was old enough to be on his own and out in the world and they'd always boasted at how skilled and smart he was! so why not let him challenge himself and show just how good he was by raising something pathetic into something amazing?

They were befuddled when he came back home, still with the measly little Tynamo, and decided to challenge a family member to a battle--his Tynamo against their Palpitoad. They had a Tympole that they were 'using improperly' he said--and he'd take it if he won.

And even though all Tynamo could do was tackle, it still fucked up that Palpitoad and everybody was shocked and impressed. And Ghetsis went back off with his new little tiny fish, saying that he would take Pokémon from anyone who misused them. The Tympole had amazing stats--and they wanted to use it for music, when clearly it should be a battling Pokémon. Pokémon abusers and misusers beware--and his parents were so proud of his sense of justice.

Proud and completely ignorant.

They checked in on him and invited him home regularly and he visited as he made his way through the region collecting badges and pokémon and studying Unovan history--a historian, an archeologist! They stayed proud of Ghetsis for a long time and kept contact with him until he started to speak less to them, mainly as he was busy travelling the world.

When Ghetsis messed up his arm, he was in his teens or early 20′s at most. He refused to tell them what had happened to it, and they were concerned for their boy having had lost his dominant arm. They wanted him to see doctors, get all kinds of treatment and if it couldn’t be restored it could be replaced with the best tech available, but Ghetsis refused. They’d had a similar reaction to the loss of his eye. His refusals confused them--and made them a bit angry. He’d always said he was perfect, was going to be the best, they wanted him to be the best and represent the family as the best so why allow himself to stay in these conditions? But they still respected his decision even if they were a bit disgusted and heavily disagreed. That he continued to be so successful despite his injuries made them proud, certainly, but “think of what you could do if you were better” and so on.

One day, while living back at the Estate as he did some research and business in Unova, Ghetsis brought home a little green baby. His parents didn't know he had a partner at the time. . .he said he was going to the woods as he often did, but he came back with a child? Who was this child's mother? The child looked like Ghetsis in damn near every facial feature. They couldn’t get the information out of him and couldn’t work it out themselves. He was very dismissive with regards to any questions about the child.

When Ghetsis's family began to realize Natural's seeming ability to understand Pokémon and communicate with them, that who turned to what quickly. What was that thing? His parents were horrified--they'd discouraged his magic, and yet Ghetsis, while surprised, was not offput by this freakish ability at all. Under pressure from his family, the child was supposedly discarded, returned to the woods for fate to decide. Displeased, Ghetsis moved back out, saying he had more work he needed to do elsewhere.

Their relationship got a bit rockier after that. . . . And with Ghetsis being busy with Team Plasma and his other pursuits, nothing ever really got clarified or made up for, their communicating becoming less and less as Ghetsis got busier.

#long post #((god i hope to everything this actually cuts on mobile))#Family | I'm Here To Be Your Only Go Between #History | Who’d Ever Dream A Child As Sweet As I Seemed Would Be The Source Of So Much Pain And Strife #Headcanon | The Horror That He Brings The Horror Of His Sting The Unholiest Of Kings #Worldbuilding | Show Me Where Can Do How Can Do It Who Can Do This With You #abib918 #((thank you very much for the ask❣))

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