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#Despite the Exceeds being part of Sabertooth I did not talk about them on their own in this post
emile-hides · 1 year
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I might seriously do a nostalgia rewatch of the anime just because you keep posting about them , . anyway i would absolutely not mind getting little blerbs on every member of Sabertooth you've listed :3
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My god!!! These fucking guys!!!!! They came so far out of left field for me and I still do not have a good read on them they really came barreling it in the last two seasons huh!! Okay!!!
This is gonna get kinda long so all of it under the cut!! Thankyou very much for asking!!!
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We'll start with Minerva and man. Why'd she stop wearing make-up when she got redeemed?? Why her eyes so big??? Girl what happened you lost all your original character design huh???
I really didn't like Minvera at first, and I guess you're really not supposed to but she really didn't. Get??? Better?? She got worse and then we just kept going anyway. I really feel like we could have had more with her character arc, sense she was affected by the Regression Spell Doriate used, which we see clearly drag Grey's childhood trauma right back up in his face, I just think it'd be cool if it'd done the same to her? Give us a little hint at the abuse that caused her to be this way and the healing from that that inevitably turns her back around, you know?
Also just what??? Happened??? To her demon form??? I was unaware loosing an eye and going full incubus with several tattoos was so instantly reversible in the world of Fairy Tail. I feel like there should have been more there. But also instead of narrative plot we got a chill comedic break with her, Erza, Franmalth, and the Exceeds midway through about three episodes, and in one of those moments we get Lily commenting that she'd make an excellent wife so. I can't be too disappointed.
I don't think I have a sexuality headcanon for her, and I don't think she knows either. Romance is weakness so she never really had time to explore that part of herself growing up. In the New and Improved Sabertooth she'll have much more space to finder herself, I think.
Oh also she's recovering from a really bad eating disorder! She fell into it after her father left her in the woods, what and when and how much she ate became her only control. It took her a long time to really face and talk about it because admitting to something like that is another weakness and we all know how she is about facing those. That's why Sabertooth started having eating contests every year! Sting thinks giving her a big event to eat as much as she can at as a competition will encourage her to get more comfortable with eating. She'll never be discouraged from another meal when you win by eating, right?? Perfect idea Sting!
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Sting next okay Sting's really funny to me actually and I can't pinpoint why but he's just. He really gets a laugh out of me.
He's the only Dragon Slayer who Thinks with their Head I think he's technically Wendy's age but they locked all the main characters away on an island just so he and his brother could be Natsu's age because what kind of boy dragon slayer is a child he's gotta hit people he can't hit people with a 12 year old's fist He's for some reason The master of the new Sabertooth because he killed the last guy I guess he fucking killed a man can we talk about that he killed a guy on screen was he a shitty guy yeah sure but he was still a guy with a name and a face one of the Good Guys of this anime hard murdered and I feel like that's kind of a big deal we don't Do That a lot.
I really like Sting and Lector, they feel like Happy and Natsu but on more even ground. Happy just feels like a baby sometimes even if Natsu doesn't out right treat him like one the narrative sure does, but Lector? Lector's not a baby he's Sting's best friend they grew up Together they have the energy of childhood friends who are actually The Same Age they've known each other for life they're basically brothers you feel me? It's what Wendy and Carla should have been honestly.
Sting, like Natsu, gives me a lot of Aro vibes, but at the same time I do like the idea of him being romantically with Lector they're just so close and the times they hug get me every time. I'm fine with giving character's paraphilias but I'd need one specific to Exceeds. Demiromantic Asexual I guess? That'll hold for now till I come up with something else. He's also transgender He/They probably.
He also has ADHD like Natsu but medicated.
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Rouge time fuckin!!! Guy dude buddy guy!! I feel like this would another Meow meow if this fandom wasn't attached to Natsu by the hip all the time.
I don't know why but Rouge's Wiki doesn't have any pictures of him as a kid which is unfortunate considering his whole thing is every major stage in his life he grows his hair a little longer.
Baby Rouge had a buzz cut, Grand Magic Games Rouge had the It's Not a Phase Edgey anime boy hair, Tartaros Arc Rouge got the pretty boy ponytail, and Future Evil Gonna Destroy the World with Grief Rouge had a white string bean of a ponytail for some reason.
On the flip side of Sting and Lector we have Rouge and Frosch which is just. Absolutely wild. They don't feel like friends at all Rouge is a mother hen over this Cat Frog all the time. I can't tell if he's infantilizing Frosch or trying to be supportive but either way something about it feels weird and unbalanced compared to the other Exceed/Slayer relationships, especially sense Frosch is canonically 12 to Happy's 6. Another reason I really hate the 7 year time skip.
Rouge is the same Exceed Paraphillia as Sting, and is also probably a shotacon on top of that, to play with the infantilization of Frosch. I could also just see him identifying as Gay, Genderfluid He/She/They
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Finally we reach!!! Yukino!!! QUEEN!!!!
I remember seeing her and getting so confused because she looked so much like Sorano but no one was calling it out which this show LOVES to do when characters are related they really gotta tell no show those kinds of bonds so I was lost on her for a while.
Truth be told I think about Sorano a lot she is my most thought about girl in the series so most of my Yukino thoughts kind of just stem off of her sister, which I feel bad about because Yukino is just. So cute.
There's something about a character who expects things to go bad because they always do and then is still hurt by it and lays all the blame on themselves. Use enough to expect it, not yet given up hope of getting better.
I also just! Love celestial wizards! I wish we'd gotten more on her dynamic with Libra because really. Compared to the other spirits Libra seems so god damn normal. The spirits are weird let Libra be WEIRD we had a whole episode where we got to see the spirits one at a time and Libra was so NORMAL let her be WEIRD!!!
Also the fact that Lucy has more than half the Zodiac makes Yukino look super under powered, and that bothers me. The way the keys work bother me.
Yukino is Pan and Transgender She/Her for sure, also full of Autism and a little OCD.
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natsubeatsrock · 7 years
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Bye, Bye Lucy: Part 2
Here it is. The moment you’ve all been waiting for. The reason these stories get their name: after being ignored, Lucy gets kicked out of Team Natsu because of Lisanna. 
I feel like my FT career has lead up to this moment: the time where I get to explain why this makes no sense.
I want to ignore Lisanna for now. Don't worry, we'll get to her later. But for now, let’s talk about why Lucy getting kicked out makes sense.
The reason Lucy is given as to why she is getting kicked out is because she's too weak. To be fair, she is markedly weaker than Erza and Natsu and Gray are probably stronger than her. But, I'm pretty sure she's stronger than Wendy was at this point in the story. Even then, if the idea is kicking out weak members, the logical next step is to say goodbye to the Exceeds.
Often the justification for this is that it would be harder to split the reward between one more member. However, the simple solution to that is to go on harder missions with more pay with more members. That feels like a no-brainer to me.
By the way, when did money start becoming a concern for Team Natsu? Sure, they all need to eat. But Lucy's the only person on the team that ever voices concern over money on a consistent basis because of rent. Keep in mind that Wendy pays 30,000 more jewels for rent and, if we can trust OVA 1, Erza pays more than 7 times Lucy's rent.
If they really wanted to save money on missions, they could all stop destroying stuff on missions. In fact, I feel like it would make more sense that Lucy would express open frustration towards the team losing money because of their recklessness and would make efforts to stop destroying stuff.
Also, am I supposed to believe that even a majority of the team actually voted for Lucy to leave? Apply what I previously said about the guild’s view of Lucy to the members of Team Natsu. I think that if anyone would want Lucy in the guild after everything that has happened so far, I would hope it would be her teammates. The people who know the least about Lucy are Carla and Wendy and do you think that they'd want Lucy to leave? Remember, some of the few people that talk to Lucy in these stories are the other members of Team Natsu. Why would they want her gone?
Sometimes these questions are ignored because Natsu is the one that kicks her out. Even then, Natsu’s not the leader of the team. Yes, he came up with the idea of forming team Natsu. (I say this because I'm not sure I believe that the idea to form team Natsu was really Plue’s.) Yes, we all nickname “The Strongest Team” after him. But, there is no real leader of Team Natsu. He doesn't get to decide what the entire group does. He's not even the strongest person. Lucy aside, he pretty much ties with Gray and Erza could probably stare him into submission.
And even then, I'm supposed to believe that no one rejected this idea? Everyone just goes along with Lucy leaving? They don't band together and kick Natsu and/or Lisanna off the team instead? Don't they just give one of those famous “FT Nakama speeches” the series is known for? They all just... go with it?
A simple rebuttal to this is that this just means Natsu will stop working with Lucy when others are doing missions separately. However, this also fails on a fundamental level. He's the one that should care about Lucy the most. He's seen Lucy go from a liability to an asset over the course of the series. Why should I believe that he would want to stop working with Lucy because of his girlfriend?
At the very least, Natsu isn’t the kind of person that would kick someone out of his team because they’re too weak. In fact, that's very similar to what he got mad at Sabertooth for. Yukino was embarrassed and kicked out of Sabertooth because she was seen as too weak by their master. Natsu was the one that barreled in and gave the guild a piece of his mind despite the potential consequences. And I’m supposed to be okay with Natsu kicking out Lucy?
There's one last question I need to ask. Does Lucy even have to be kicked out of the team? This probably sounds like a weird question to ask. But a lot of the stories I've read get to this point and say something like “Lucy saw this coming”.
So, why is the reason Lucy is no longer part of Team Natsu because she's removed? Why doesn't she just leave on her own?
At this point in the story, there are two better different reasons she can leave the team on her own.
One, she can leave the team because they're all ignoring her and can't stand it anymore. Her team turned their backs on her, so she turns her back on them. We’ll talk about what happens next later.
Two, she stops working with the team because she's heartbroken after finding out that she can't date Natsu. Deep down, she has feelings for Natsu and was never able to share them with him before he got together with Lisanna and seeing them together is tearing her apart.
Both of these ideas deal with the important things that have happened already in the story. If you're going to make the guild ignore Lucy and Natsu getting with Lisanna points in the story, there's no need in my mind to give another reason why Lucy isn't a part of Team Natsu. You already have two good reasons written into the story. Take advantage of what's already happened.
Come to think of it, if this story actually takes places after Grand Magic Games (even though it shouldn’t) the team doesn’t have to want to replace her with Lisanna for Lucy to think about how weak she may be. Her showing at the Grand Magic Games wasn’t particularly stellar. Even though the reasons for her losses were due to foul play, that could be something that she may want to improve on so that, in future GMGs, she’s able to do better. If that’s not how you want to go about it, you could make Lucy want to get stronger to protect her friends and herself from other bad things that could potentially happen to them.
This is one of the big main problems with these stories that I'll be bringing up more as we go further into this series. Even if there wasn't an issue with these stories lining up with canon, there are better and more sensible ways for the situations in these stories to happen take place within the pre-established logic of the actual stories. These stories don't just fail to capture the heart of the series. They don't take advantage of the world they set up.
And nothing I've mentioned so far is even what I consider the worst thing about Lucy being kicked off Team Natsu in these stories. However, I have an elephant in the room to address first.
To be continued...
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