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#Azure Moon Spoilers
fayessketchbook · 8 months
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The Queen of Monsters
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ayatoswife · 2 years
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unarmed brawling is so entertaining
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recurringwriter · 2 years
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Added colour and then @kaz-allmighty turned it into an album cover:
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Track List:
the king's phat ass
Felix I Love You My Son
Thoron to the Chest
Bone Lance
Divorced Dilf Blues (Feat. Gilbert Pronislav)
Hot as Ailell
Here's a Small Souvenir
Felicity I'm sorry I've changed please answer my calls
Words as Sharp as Fleche's Blade
The King's Shield
Live For What You Believe In
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isan0rt · 8 months
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I feel like I haven't really seen the fe3h fandom talk too much about how clearly Azure Moon is an adaptation of Hamlet. Like not even subtly Hamlet (like, see, he's the lion king, get it, haha, because... It's Hamlet).
Dimitri is obvious; he's the prince whose uncle has become king, due to a conspiracy he's trying to uncover, spurred on by his murdered father's restless ghost. Pursuing this vengeance drives him mad, and he becomes increasingly erratic as vengeance continues to escape him.
Dedue is Horatio; Hamlet's best friend (but one he met more recently than his other friends), always at his side and loyal no matter how far Hamlet falls, but formal with him right up until Hamlet dies for his revenge. Crimson Flower Dedue practically delivers the "Goodnight, sweet prince" line in the game if you defeat him before he can transform himself.
The rest spends a lot of effort making subversions; Rufus is Claudius, and this is played straight in Three Hopes, where Dimitri gets justice before he loses his mind and so he never reaches the depths of despair he does in Azure Moon. But in Three Houses this gets subverted; Rufus is still actually the Claudius, but Dimitri has miscast Edelgard in the role. This also allows Patricia to serve as Gertrude, forcing Dimitri to grapple with whether his (step)mother was complicit in his father's murder and whether she has more loyalty to the murderer than to him. Rufus then shifts into the Polonius role, as it's after his death (allegedly at the hand of Dimitri himself) that everything starts going to shit.
Felix, meanwhile, I think is Laertes (with Glenn and Rodrigue serving as Ophelia and Polonius for him (side side note I personally think Glenn was one of Dimitri's first crushes but that's neither here nor there)). The death of one curdles Laertes's positive childhood friendship feelings towards Hamlet (and Felix towards Dimitri) and then the death of the second fully solidifies Laertes's feeling that Hamlet must be stopped.
In Azure Moon, this gets subverted, in that Dimitri reverses course here, where Hamlet doubles down. As a result, Laertes turns his sword against Hamlet, while Felix returns to a shaky companionship with Dimitri. But crucially, if Felix does get recruited to other routes and turns his sword against Dimitri, he basically cannot have a happy ending - the same way Laertes dies for turning against Hamlet.
I don't have a snappy conclusion or anything (are Ingrid and Sylvain Rosencrantz and Guildenstern? Unclear) but I think it's fascinating.
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urgeeky-friend22 · 2 years
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The moment when the noblest man lost his mind
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ghost-pocky · 2 years
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The first time I get a chance to observe respectfully and the king nearly jumps out of his skin 😂
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fayesdiary · 8 months
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actually now that you've finished AM and re: Paired Endings, did you get the paired endings you wanted? I remember when I went in blind and didn't know how the hidden support points system worked in regards to paired endings, I ended up with exactly no paired endings I was expecting or hoping to get, and a few people I knew playing the game at the same time as me ran into the same "wait, how does this work" conundrum bc we all went and got everyone to A or A+ supports with everyone else and therefore had a roulette wheel of paired endings.
also just in general, how did you enjoy AM?
I barely knew paired endings were a thing so I wasn't aiming for any one in particular (although I'm upset by the Felix/Ingrid one. I'm sorry Ingrid, you deserved better).
That said, having paired endings almost hidden from the player if you don't know (I'm guessing it's a selection of the A/A+ support pairs, but if you have multiple it selects one based on which has the highest support points) is... really weird. Why not just have S supports at that point and give the player the active choice of which paired ending they want?
As for Azure Moon itself, I quite enjoyed it! Dimitri's journey is the good shit, his relationship with Edelgard is just tragic and overall it's a really nice personal narrative.
But for the larger narrative, well... I have questions. And they are not the good kind.
Let's start with the smaller things first - Sothis.
Why is she even in the game?
I'm saying this as a huge fan of her- I adore her, I think she's so much fun. That said, if she's barely going to have screentime in White Clouds and is completely absent in Part 2, why even pretend she's going to be a primary character if she barely features in it?
I enjoyed Ch9 and 10 with her because she finally had her time to shine, taking initiative, coaxing Byleth into investigating a bit more and being a little gremlin when she convinces them to eavesdrop on Rhea. She finally has the presence she should have always had, but then she merges with Byleth and... that's it.
Poor Rhea is in an even worse situation in Azure Moon, being completely absent in Part 2. They tell you she has been secretly been imprisoned in Enbarr all this time but they never tell you why (my guess is it has something to do with Edelgard's monster form?), and then when you beat the game... Nothing.
Just a small line telling you she has retired and moved to Zanado.
The poor woman feels like a complete afterthought in this route.
Speaking of things feeling like an afterthought in Azure Moon, the Dark Snakes (the personal name I'm going with for Those who slither in the dark because I hate that name so goddamn much).
In White Clouds? Hyped up as a major antagonist.
In Azure Moon Part 2? Nowhere to be seen properly.
You only get Cornelia and Volkhard who have been very blatantly replaced with members of the cult, and yet no one seems to notice.
Dimitri will say straight to your face Cordelia's whole demeanor changed around a decade prior but never think "hmm, this sounds familiar", despite him mentioning Kronya a few chapters prior.
They appear in the final chapter but only as an extra boss you can stomp to get rid of a bunch of soldiers, and again - barely acknowledged. The rest of them flee when you kill their leader so the Snakes are still around scheming, but this is never addressed in Azure Moon, not even in the endings.
And I am not accepting "it will be explained in the other routes" as an excuse, because if you're going to treat every route as its own game, then the narrative of every single route has to stand on its own.
As it stands, the Snakes in AM only exist to make Edelgard look better by comparison in White Clouds and are almost completely ignored in Part 2.
And speaking of Edelgard - we need to talk about the whole deal with Fòdlan's unification.
This game is... weirdly fascinated with the idea. I can understand why Edelgard views it as an ideal - of course the future Emperor of an Empire would have an imperialist mindset.
The problem is that several other characters and the narrative itself portrays it a good thing, when if you think of it for a few minutes... It's not. The mere existence of the Kingdom and Alliance as well as two of the major wars in Fòdlan being for their indipendence proves that.
And look - Fòdlan has many, many problems. Rampant racism and xenophobia, class inequality exacerbated by Crests, you name it. But it being united under a single banner, especially if by force, does nothing to solve any of the issues and arguably makes them worse.
Hell, as fucked as the status quo at the start of the game is, at least there was a clear harmony between the four powers, and Fòdlan had been at a state of relative peace for almost a millennia until Edie did her, um, thing.
Shamir has a line where she mentions Fòdlan will probably split again eventually, and she's right - it's increasingly clear that Fòdlan being governed by a single power does not work.
Also I know I barely know Claude at this point especially because he's deliberately written as hard to read but I'm sorry- him just giving the Alliance to Dimitri is bullshit. Both because of what it represents, both because I don't buy it at all he would just do this (especially with Verdant Wind existing), and especially because you really want me to believe every single noble would be ok with rejoining under the Kingdom they declared indipendence from two centuries ago?
So the narrative ends up saying "oh it's not that Edie's ideals of a unified Fòdlan are fundamentally wrong- no, it's her methods and the fact that she wants to destroy the Church". And the cynical side me is thinking that in the large scale of things, the main difference between the routes is choosing which war criminal gets to govern the whole continent.
So while overall I enjoyed Azure Moon, I can't help but notice so many warning signs for things to come.
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ooh can you elaborate the parallel between rhea killing nemesis with a dagger and dimitri giving el one? i'm curious but feel free to ignore, if you don't want to!
Thanks for the ask anon ! =D
For context, I just realized there even was a parallel yesterday while I was watching the opening cutscene - and though I thought I'd share it because people might have some interesting things to say about it, I didn't really think that deep into it myself.
That being said, I thought I'd at least give it a go !! Keep in mind though, this might be pretty disorganized since I am thinking it out at the same time as I am writing it.
Off the top of my mind, there are three important daggers I can think of when playing fe3h. The first one, and perhaps the most significant,  is Edelgard's, that was gifted to her by Dimitri so she could cut her own future. The second one, which I talked about yesterday,  is the one Rhea uses to kill Nemesis. And finally, there is a last one: the one Monica uses to stab Jeralt.
Interestingly enough, Seiros kills Nemesis for revenge- because her people have no future now that they've been genocided, because they themselves will not have the opportunity to cut their own future anymore. This is pretty similar to how Edelgard herself is the only one of her siblings left to build a new world where what they went through will never happen again. Both are motivated by their grief of their loved ones who were ripped away from them.
However, and I think that’s very important- unlike Edelgard, Rhea never really moves on from the grief. She tries so much  to stop such horrible things from happening again that she helps build and preserve a system that is, at its core, centered on a romanticized version of the past (what’s with how she rewrites history) and resistant to change (I believe  it is mentioned at some point in Cindered Shadows that she prohibited the development of the printing press and some medical progress). In that regard, you could say she doesn’t even have a “future” if you consider that with future comes change. She clings to the past while being stuck in a kind of “still life” that is her present- and hoping that she can go back to “the way things were” once she brings her mother back to life.
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That makes Edelgard the polar opposite of that. She, too, disregards the present- but only because she herself cannot dwell on the past, and thus considers building what she sees as a better future her priority. Living in the present time isn’t worth it if her work amounts to no significant change, and fast -hence the radicality of her actions compared to the more gradual reforms Claude advocates for. She is the gal who devised a plan to take down Those Who Slither In The Dark with her goth best friend in her twenties, while Rhea barely made a move against them in a thousand years. 
Her act of desperation at the end of Azure Moon, when she tries to kill Dimitri last minute, is because she is unwilling to give up on the future she envisioned, not  a way to avenge the past. Now that I think about it, this is emphasized even more by the fact that her dagger is supposed to kill the one who gave it to her in a past she has no care left for, and barely remembers anyways. But this last action still leaves room for a better future- she doesn’t manage to kill Dimitri.
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Rhea uses her dagger so the past can live again- Edelgard uses hers to kill the past.
So, now that I am wayyyy too deep into this to back down- where does Kronya’s dagger fit in all of this ?
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Kronya/Monica killing Jeralt is the catalyst for change in Byleth. The one key element that allows for the return of the Goddess in the world of the living (speaking of that, have some cool symbolism about their fusion with Sothis I thought about the other day) . But, even more importantly, Byleth embodies the movement of the world itself, the force of change. They are interminatum, neither God nor mortal, everchanging and undetermined, unpredictable. They are the time that passes ("Byleth interminatum" is also slowly becoming my favorite way to call them but that's another matter entirely).
Without them, the conflict stagnates, torn in the struggle between the past and the future ; because neither Edelgard nor Rhea know how to live in the present. But you know what's pretty cool ?
Byleth never uses their own dagger. They literally have it on at all times but never use it. My guess is, it is exactly because they have been revealed "both sides of time" that they can live in the present without regret, kept in check by all of the ties they have made there with their loved ones. This might even be because they are the only character who was "cut from the world" and felt like they lived outside of it at the beginning of the story, whose entire character arc centers on finding their place into this world. Jeralt's murder is just what triggers this force of change.
Byleth is essential in that they teach both the archbishop and the empress something they have always been lacking- learning to live in the present, to be part of the world again, to open themselves up to others and love. Edelgard never uses her dagger in Crimson Flower because Byleth was there to keep her aware of the consequences her actions have in the here-and-now.
Aaalright, I guess that's a wrap ! Please forgive any mistakes as English isn't my first language. Similarly, I might not have covered everything and it's just me musing, don't hesitate to add anything to this !!! ^^ But the symbolism of the dagger was really cool to think about !!
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fore-seer · 1 year
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anyway the general impression is that the golden deer are the meme house in 3h but personally i think it’s the blue lions bc when zelestia said whatever she says about mauvier being “a true knight to the end” i kept repeating “he died like a true knight” to myself and laughing
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dmclemblems · 2 years
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the way it’s felix who runs to rodrigue when he’s dying in the bad ending of ag and says “no!” AND LITERALLY THROWS HIS FUCKING SHIELD TO THE SIDE before dimitri even has a chance to turn around just GETS me.
it’s not that dimitri was busy/concerned about byleth/sothis. it’s that felix didn’t even wait more than a second of byleth running off to literally fucking drop everything and turn around to see if his father was okay and felt immediate panic when he realized he wouldn’t make it and held him in his arms as he died.
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fellhellion · 2 years
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girl why is no one bringing up the obvious fact that edelgard was like. 12 when the tragedy of duscur happened. “If the emperor was complicit” dimitri what are you TALKING about
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fayessketchbook · 8 months
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The Queen of Monsters (WiP)
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just-a-regular-fan · 2 years
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Can someone please explain to me why Randolph and Fleche aren't a meme yet? They are so useless that they've been written as the exact same plot device twice
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tsff21 · 2 years
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“Azure Moon doesn’t deal with TWSITD!”
Thales and Cornelia are dead, and the only thing they have left that even resembles a leader is Myson, a glorified lackey who’s sole appearance has him turn tail and run away the moment his side starts losing.
I’m pretty confidant in saying that TWSITD is just as gutted in Azure Moon as they are in Silver Snow and Verdent Wind.
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allegorism · 2 years
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so he didn't even reach for her hand. ok.
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astro-stpd · 9 months
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My thoughts on the main 3 routes of FE3H (not Silver Snow, haven't done that one yet):
Quick summary:
I'm a Verdant Wind Supremacy person. Fuck Edelgard. Fuck Rhea. Some of these final battles are too hard. My top people are: Linhardt, Felix, Sylvain, Bernadetta, Lysithea, Claude, Yuri, Hapi, Ashe, Mercedes.
Verdant Wind: (F Unit)
It was my first and I fucked it up badly by doing all of the pre-timeskip phase over the span of 4 months due to college and the game being on my friend's switch. But multiclassing almost everyone into ranged fighters with magic and archery was my big strat and it WORKED. I didn't recruit really anyone which was a MISTAKE. I love almost everyone in this group with all of my heart but LEONIE CAN GET FUCKED. I dislike her so much. It was a difficult decision to pick who to marry at the end, but the random number generator chose Lorenz and tbh, it could have been worse. Loved seeing Nemesis get his ass kicked at the end, 10/10.
Azure Moon: (M Unit)
I hated the boss battle. I tried my strat of multiclassing and my friend said I did it wrong. She had to do the boss battle for me because after 11 tries, including using a strat guide for 8 of those 11 tries, I was legit about to cry from frustration. I recruited Bernadetta, Linhardt, Catherine, and Alois for this and they were lovely. There is a special place in my heart for the group in this route and I disliked killing them in VW and CF. I also couldn't choose who to marry, but the random number generator picked Bernadetta. I however got my heart stolen away by Linhardt so I knew I'd be his housespouse in my next route. 10/10 story, -40/10 final battle. We love a good guilt and trauma storyline with positive feelings towards Dimitri.
Crimson Flower: (M Unit)
IT'S SO MUCH SHORTER THAN THE OTHER TWO AND I HATE THAT. But I learned and I focused on budding talents and what the characters insisted on classing in. This was the first route I had the Ashen Wolves too, so I snatched up my prettyboy king and got Yuri on my squad. I recruited Mercedes for that sweet bro-sis ending with her and Jeritza, Shamir because she's the only adult I hadn't, and Ashe because I rely too heavily on archers. Is it bad for me to like the route where I don't have to babysit Flayn? But I liked the motive and I love the students but I'm still in the "fuck Edelgard" troupe for straight up starting a war. I get there's trauma behind it but still. This was the first route where a majority of my troupe were paired, only Shamir wasn't. AND I MARRIED LINHARDT BECAUSE I'M A SIMP OKAY. 4/10 story, -200/10 house leader. extra points for finally killing Rhea, I DISLIKE HER.
BONUS Cindered Shadows: (M Unit)
I love them all. Aelfric can go fuck himself. This route furthered my hatred for Rhea because the human experimentation bs. My only issues is that the final battle is WORSE than the Azure Moon one. I tried for 5 hours, using the strat guide. But the strat guide was actually useless. "Gambit demon mom so all 3 front tiles are gone" I HAD NO GAMBITS WHERE THAT WOULD HAPPEN. "Keep two people on Aelfric clone duty" THEY DON'T DIE IN ONE ATTACK SEQUENCE UNLESS IT'S BALTHUS DOING IT!
So I gave up on it. Still got them for the main routes for getting that far. If I want to see the ending I'll look it up on Youtube. 100/10 house. -467345643563467/10 final battle. And also Fuck Rhea.
Up next on my FE3H addiction: Silver Snow ft MARRYING THE DILF HIMSELF and giving Flayn siblings.
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