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tfw-no-tennis · 3 years

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mtmte liveblog issue 29

and continuing on!

the cover w/megatron and tailgate....tg so tiny...ooough

omg I forgot abt swerves long ass recap lol

the fact that they lowkey lampshade the fact that as mtmte was really hitting its stride, ending s1 fantastically, they got sucked into the whole dark cybertron thing...Ls

TG AND CYCLONUS HHHHH

tg as a lil car...and cyclonus smiling when he hears him coming...HHHH

also I love that cyclonus kept the great sword that he like, found amongst the belongings of all the dead circle of light members lmao

or maybe the dude it belonged to didn't die, but he was too intimidated to ask cyclonus for his sword back. understandable

tgs reaction to megatron...omg. I love him

I love ‘star sabered’ as a way of saying ‘drunk’ lmao

OUGHBHGGBHGJIHHIUHGHH and then when tailgate is like ‘ok, but HAVE I been missed?’ and cyclonus smiles and says ‘very much’ IM GONNA FUCKING DIE. this is only the BEGINNING of the tender gay pain for these two, how am I gonna survive this

the fact that tailgate’s criteria for ‘best day ever’ includes ‘people knowing who I am’ and ‘people being nice to me’...my boy 😭😭

ah, trial time. I'm not really one for court/procedural stuff, and the gay space robots edition of judge judy is about as much as I can handle

OOOOOF the list. the liiiiiiist

AUGHHHHH rodimus....rodimus....please make good decisions my boy

TEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! I love him

the little swerve icon on the ‘no guns no swords no briefcases’ sign omg

the panel of megatron like, smirking and reclining while ultra magnus yells at him is wild...I always forget that those two like, actively didn't get along at the beginning, mostly bc we only see that for a few issues, but still, it’s pretty ironic considering how things end up w/them later

lost light insider...I SO wish we could've gotten that one-shot issue about the guy who writes it, that's ridiculously up my alley

skids saying ‘I don't think you’re fit to drive’ to trailcutter is like, bending my brain, bc like...is it a DUI if a transformer drives around in alt mode while drunk...you're not driving a car, you're driving YOURSELF, but still...bruh

oh god starscream is here hvbakjhfbjksdbfj he’s such a bitch I love him

starscream putting on his theater kid crown, ready to make the fuck-up-the-plot-of-a-series-I'm-not-even-in speech of a lifetime

magnus and optimus: ok enough drama you gay idiot get to the point

that panel of starscream raising his hands up like ‘ok ok sheesh lol’ is so fucking funny

ok oh man, that is an epic speech. like, ooof. ‘he deserves pity.’ WOW

I feel like it also does such a good job showing how much bad blood is between starscream and megatron, and goes to show how megatron fucked Absolutely Everything up, including his dynamic w/his subordinates

anyways, I cant believe starscream roasted megatron so hard that megatron ended up become a main cast member in mtmte bc of spite lmao

meanwhile nightbeat is contemplating the Mystery Stick™

nightbeat yet again pulling his bbc sherlock bs on somebody, this time...chromedome, certified grieving widow. never change nightbeat hvbhjakdsfbsakjdf

AUHGHHHHHH DATA GHOST REWIND IM HHHHHHHHHH

HIM 😭😭😭

I'M SO FUCKING SAD

REWINDDDDDDDDD

meanwhile, trailcutter is wearing a gopro to pull some sick illegal pranks for his youtube channel

there was probably a content creator power vacuum in the lost light youtuber community after rewind died and now everyone is scrambling to be the next big vlogger/editor

megatron: we should play this by the book

magnus: I have no choice but to simp

nautica is that Straightedge Square who gets caught up in sketchy shit and just dips vbhsjdkbfdjaskdf. the cops get called on a party and she's already gone, she drove you there but she left w/the car, whoops. I love her

oh I adore the panel with all the stuff labelled. tho ‘ambulons stuff (untouched)’ is making me really sad

ah, the premiere of the panic bubble, which will indeed be showing up again later

meanwhile starscream is doing lowkey anime poses and waxing poetic about how hard he dunked on megatron in front of everyone. I get the feeling he’s been waiting a long time for that one

oiguhahgudaf I forgot about chromedomes weird looking alt mode. cooked turkey lookinnnnn

don't knock ‘the power of love,’ nightbeat. You'll See™

the fact the cd is still looking for dominus even tho rewind is dead and also they haven't like, had any leads in millions of years...oof it hurts

gotta be honest, my first readthru I didn't understand the (really cool looking) panel of the lost light from the outside w/half of nightbeats hab suite missing, bc I just was like ‘oh its a visual framing technique for Cool Comic Panel’ lmao

ok I need the backstory of megatron being able to karate-chop people into permanent sobriety

megatron hiring trailcutter but in the most threatening way possible

oh, good, the coffin’s bleeding!

OHHH and the reveal that RODIMUS IS IN THE COFFIN and OH HEY we STILL haven't seen rodimus in the flash forwards have we??? hmmm

optimus: ok back to judge prime: luna 2 trials, magnus you got anything to add?

magnus: ಠ_ಠ(•_•)

and then we have megatron being the pettiest mfer in the known universe and changing his plea bc starscream pwned him ONCE

hhhh and rodimus looking at the list...It Fuckin Hurts. my boy please make a good decision

thinkin abt how if optimus was like, supportive and understanding when rodimus tried to open up to him about his struggles w/leadership, all this might've gone differently...AUGH

anyways, cool issue! we’re doing lots of setup for the new status quo for s2, and there’s a mystery afoot!

I don’t have much to say here tbh lol, this is a good issue and all but I don’t really have anything to add, soooo til next time!

#lj rereads mtmte

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c-sand · 5 years

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You said that GOT kept pushing that Sansa could betray the Starks/Jon any minute but I wonder: did it? Or was that fandom's interpretation whenever she was in conflict b/c Sansa can do no good to them? Maisie said Arya was supposed to come off to the villain in the Winterhell plot; but fandom's love of her made them take her side. Idk it's possible they never meant for Sansa's conflicts to be judged so b&w (but they f'ed up the execution enough for fandom to have the wiggle room to blame her).

(forewarning that this answer is a hot mess express and i’m just rambling)

I think it did, yeah. Not on the show, really, but outside of it. In Show, fandom interpretation is a massive part of it, that’s for sure. But, I also think that GOT had the idea constantly pushed in cast interviews. Because, while we had people like Maisie saying such about Arya (and people subsequently not listening, because everyone loves her and Arya and haha isn’t she funny??) (she is funny, what a great gal, we stan), everyone else was constantly talking about Sansa’s tensions with This Character, That Character, That Character Over There – even when the tension barely existed or wasn’t relationship ending. Sansa’s questionable motivations.

It’s almost like people came to GOT each season waiting for “THIS season!!” or “OKAY NOW THIIIIIS season!!!” to be the one where her “real colors” were shown and she pulled off her wolf hat to reveal her flayed winged lion’s mane billowing in the breeze – and the interviews seemingly reflected that.

(Which is fair, if you don’t like Sansa and were hoping it was all going to come to light. I mean, I’ve thought Dny was a villain for seven and a half seasons and had been waiting for the day she inevitably destroyed Kings Landing, so people waiting for Sansa to drop kick Jon Snow into Sparta’s big ‘ol hole out back isn’t that much different, I guess. Apart from the fact that the main thing suggesting Sansa was going to do that was a first round draft outline that GRRM had long ago discarded.)

Before S7, they were constantly talking about how Sansa and Jon were at horrible odds and struggling with each other and how she undermines him and his authority (”undermining him” being having literally three differing opinions: we need to have some sort of standard on actual treason, you can’t immediately abandon me and our people to go to a foreign invader you don’t know who’s family has a history off killing us, and I agree The Dead is Very The Most Serious because I actually have faith in you, but I’m telling you we can’t forget the Cersei exists, because she is dangerous too).

But, then we actually watched them and he wouldn’t tell her his plans (so obviously she’s frustrated), then they would disagree about something about the plans he didn’t tell her about and he’d tell her not to speak against him in public about things she learned on the spot…in public, and then she would extend an olive branch to mend the small tiff before it became anything more. But, the way it was spoken about before any of it aired was that it was going to be succcccch a bigger deal. Which, of course, everyone heard and latched onto, because they wanted her to turn against him and the family and the North.

When it came to the actual show, as opposed to interviews, fan interpretation is where the narrative comes in. They had the whole Arya V. Sansa plot line about how Arya thought Sansa was trying to take everything from Jon, but everything from Sansa throughout her and Jon’s entire relationship up until that point (and after) never agreed with Arya’s point of view. So, really she ended up looking like a psycho who needed to calm down and Sansa looked like a girl who was afraid that her seemingly assassin sister was literally threatening to murder her and cut her face off. Understandably afraid that her seemingly assassin sister was literally threatening to murder her and cut her face off.

And Fandom Interpretation? Most of the GA seemed to be on Arya’s side of that messy plot line, taking it to “Sansa’s the biggest Bad Guy in Game of Thrones, Arya has nailed it!”

Which was ironic, because it was literally a moment of, “People are getting Sansa’s motivations wrong.” The letter. A double down of the fact that Sansa was a child who was being forced and manipulated into writing a letter that everyone immediately knew she was forced and manipulated to write. (Which echoes with Sansa “””agreeing with Joffrey and Cersei”””” about the fight, which had been immediately followed up with our North Star, Ned Stark, saying she didn’t betray Arya or the family, she literally had no choice but to agree) (And she didn’t even agree, she took a risk and said she couldn’t remember).

And then triple down on all of those sorts of things by her constantly having Jon’s back, even when she’s frustrated and being shut out. And her big act of betrayal also being made in with the intention of his benefit and survival.

I’ve read a lot of good meta recently about how towards the start of the show, they did intend to make her actions be looked at as b&w, because they simplified her so thoroughly into as much of a stereotype as possible, potentially not knowing how important Sansa was for the story going forward. I think it might’ve even just been, “It’s first season stuff, it’s Sansa, she’s “””not that important””” we’ll flesh it out better later,” because I think they really already get adjusting by S2. (Although I do think she’s got levels in S1, even in the simplified state). She doesn’t have all of the qualities she’s got in the books (from what I know, I’m only just reading them I haven’t even hit Sansa’s first pov yet lolol), she just sort of walks around and is physically and mentally tortured. But, still they already start adding in layers more.

I’m rambling, this isn’t coherent. But, essentially, I think in show (apart from S1, potentially) they weren’t intending for her choices and actions to be so b&w “she’s against the family!!!”, it’s just that everyone hates Sansa (grasps tightly to their S1 interpretation that she wants the fairy tale life and so she’s evil and will do anything to get it?) so that’s how they read it and her going forward, for.ev.er. And it wasn’t their goal to make her choices really come off so simple, it’s just everyone else simplified it to, “Oh she’s being docile? She loves her captors, she hates her family, she just wants to be Queen, she’ll kill Jon for it, she wants power more than anything in the world!!!”

When it’s actually more of, Sansa wants power over self, what happens to her and her body and her name, and wants to keep all of those she loves safe and take care of the people it is their responsibility as Starks to protect.

But, in interviews and such, they pushed the concept of the first (”Hey maybe she’s power hungry and Jon should be concerned!!!? Watch season seven, watch season eight!!! ;D !!”), because they knew people were basically placing bets on when Sansa was going to make it plain that Sansa is out for Sansa and no one else, despite the fact that that wasn’t the narrative within the actual show.

#ask #sansa stark

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