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Cassian: it'll take more than that to kill me
Elain: ... it might sound crazy what I'm bout to say....
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Also had some anti just try to tell me that:
"Elain abhors violence" yet we're trying to ship her with the "cruel torturer of the NC" (even though miss girl is out here sneaking around with Azriel anyways, seems like his job doesn't bother her as much as antis claim)
As if Gwyn has said she "looooooves violence" and therefore the "cruel torturer of the NC" would be a lovely match? Excuse me?
Azriel can't be a fuckboy with Elain and then magically a reformed gentleman perfect LI for Gwyn.
He can't be some kind of "awful cruel torturer that has a dark side" that Elain will never accept, and then magically the type of being Gwyn would then fall in love with.
i’m really struggling to fathom how gwyn’s so-called fans can want her to end up with azriel, when they truly believe this male is a weirdo who has pursued elain for over a year just to get in her pants. that he’s been manipulating elain this entire time into thinking he cares for her, when in reality he clearly just wants a quick bang. they think azriel reeks of entitlement and that he’s just desperate for anyone to love him. they want this guy to be their favourite character’s endgame partner, even though she’s got an understandably very traumatic history with gross men. but, yeah, let’s pair her up with azriel, the guy u claim to be an incel! i’m sure he’ll act totally different with her!
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"I'm sick of Elriels using Gwyn's SA to say she can't be in a relationship two years later"
"You can't put a timeline on her healing"
Isn't that what you ... just did?
Nobody is saying Gwyn can't be a LI bc she was SA-ed. But you people are the ones saying essentially "it's been 2 years, she's over it because she has to be Azriel's love interest now"
As I stated several times. When Gwyn is ready, she can have a relationship with whomever.
My point was, she was clearly not ready by the end of ACOSF. At the end of ACOSF, Gwyn goes back into the library. She doesn't even feel comfortable enough around people to attend Nessian's mating ceremony. We can debate whether or not we think
"See you tomorrow Shadowsinger" was Gwyn expressing romantic interest in Azriel and Nesta telling Azriel "You're' the new ribbon Az" was her flirting on behalf of Gwyn 🤡
But I disagree with that. I don't think it was inherently romantic so Gwyn by the end of ACOSF, still is not showing romantic interest to Azriel.
But you aren't arguing with me on whether or not Gwyn is flirting, you're attacking me and saying I'm using her trauma as a way to fit my narrative for Elriel. Which is false.
Despite repeating it several times in my post, I know y'all don't pick up on repeated messages so let me say it again: could she be in a relationship someday? Yes. Of course. But I don't think that time has come at this current point in the story. Could it happen in future books? Yes. Of course. But nothing in the books so far has indicated that she wants a romantic relationship yet, let alone with Azriel.
This idea that Elriels are using Gwyn's SA as a reason to not ship Gwynriel is false. All I am saying is she is not ready for a relationship, she doesn't show she even likes anyone, and so I don't like the idea that people are saying she should just be used to "heal Az" (whatever tf that means).
You can disagree with me, but stop saying I'm "using her SA" to fulfill an agenda. Unless that agenda is: Let Gwyn heal at her own pace and wait to see who she is interested in before y'all make these aggressively sexual fanarts of her doing BDSM with Azriel or romanticize her SA by trying to tell people Azriel rescuing her and carrying her out was romantic.
Also people bring up the fact that she might be a lightsinger because of clear hints in the book. Her singing is described as beckoning and she glows, etc. Even Nesta's powers react to her. I don't support the belief that she's evil, but just that she has some other powers.
And listen-this might be a wild concept-but you can disagree. Everything is a theory until proven. If you don't believe the text supports that argument, that is fine.
But y'all are the ones saying she can't be evil because she's been through so much and SJM wouldn't do that to someone who's been through SA trauma. Not even refuting the text, but using her SA as evidence that she can't be a lightsinger.
Oh and here's a helpful hint: if you don't like the fact that I prefer to ship women with people they've shown interest in, get the fuck off my page?
I'm going to say this once, and I am not going to voice this again because the fact that it even has to be said, is absolutely crazy.
Nothing in ACOSF has shown us that Gwyn is ready for a relationship. She can't even leave the library at the end of ACOSF to attend Nessian's mating ceremony. She is probably now even more traumatized after the BR, and rightfully so.
Could she one day be in a relationship with a male/female? Sure. But that time is not now, right after ACOSF.
Right now, she is NOT ready for a relationship with anyone (including Azriel).
Do not get me wrong. If there had been ANY sign she had shown interest romantically in any character - I would not be saying this. But she has not shown that for anyone, let alone for Azriel.
Gwyn is going to eventually heal. But she does not need a man to do so. She does not need to play sidekick to Azriel and help him handle his so called "darkness" to heal.
Y'all can't just force her into a ship when she's clearly not ready for a relationship. Well, I suppose you can, but that would be disrespectful to SA victims everywhere.
Fictional character or not, SA trauma is real. Forcing this timeline of healing on Gwyn or shipping her with someone just so she can "fix him" or suit his "sexual freak" nature is just downright ignorant.
If y'all like Gwynriel because you think the aesthetic is cute or you think they'd compliment each other - that is fine. But this dialogue of Gwyn is gonna fix him and she and Azriel HAVE to be together because some half-baked statement from Azriel's POV - it's so weird.
Stop shipping women with people they have shown no interest in. Same goes for people shipping Elain with Lucien, when she loses her boldness around him and shrinks into herself.
Literally the moment SJM shows Gwyn is ready and likes Azriel or Elain suddenly gives Lucien the time of day out of her own free will, I will fully accept and understand the other ships.
But for now, I am shipping the couple that has actually shown desire and attraction and affection for each other. Just my opinion, and I'm not entertaining any arguments on this.
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I would find it to be terrible writing if the next book is azriel getting over elain that fast and starts talking and being with gwyn more out of nowhere. It just doesnt make sense to me because why all of a sudden youre so interested in gwyn and have feelings for her?
I genuinely do not think he has any feelings for Gwyn. If he did, he would've shown some difference in how he treated her after that bonus chapter.
He did not. He was stone-faced as usual. Didn't blink when she got taken for the BR.
This man pined over Mor for 500 years and then finally moved onto Elain. His HL tried to order him to stay away from her, and he immediately said "You can't order me to do that." He doesn't attend family dinners because it pains him to see her after he hurt her. He doesn't sleep because of thoughts of her.
This concept of "getting over Elain" doesn't exist. This idea of him suddenly having feelings for Gwyn also does not exist. The entire Gwynriel ship only exists online, and most of them haven't even read the books. Just ACOSF & the bonus chapter.
So I don't really take them seriously. They contradict themselves at every turn. Like toddlers trying to shove a square block into a triangle slot .
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god that elucien blog is so annoying. they have the worst takes and get mad whenever theyre forced to have a logical argument and always start attacking. that comment about your trauma not being special was fucked up, sorry you had to deal with that. theyre horrid sometimes
Thanks. Honestly, I was a little taken aback by the force at which these Gwynriels started attacking me all because I said the ship makes me uncomfortable.
They just kept harping that all SA victims are fine with Gwynriel and it only makes Elriels uncomfortable and I was just like "actually, not true." And I got hit with the "well your personal SA trauma doesn't make you any more superior to try to shame an entire ship" or whatever
Like what? Excuse me?
Aside from the fact that I literally never said that
Genuinely I had to sit there like - what the actual fuck? I'm not out here commenting on anti posts telling them their ship is making me uncomfortable. I just scroll past it.
But then they come onto my post and have the audacity to call me all sorts of names and dismiss my own trauma to tell me that "actually no Gwyn is ready to have all these aggressively sexual HCs we have because she asked Azriel if he could sing and they can ship them because they're fictional characters". Like okay? I don't care?
Why come into my post and say I'm wrong? Say I'm misogynistic for wanting to ship female characters (especially ones with SA trauma) only when they are ready and with people they've actually shown interest in?
Literally these people are insane. I'm blocking all of them from now on. I'm not having "debates" anymore with people who don't even respect real people, let alone fictional characters.
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I'm going to say this once, and I am not going to voice this again because the fact that it even has to be said, is absolutely crazy.
Nothing in ACOSF has shown us that Gwyn is ready for a relationship. She can't even leave the library at the end of ACOSF to attend Nessian's mating ceremony. She is probably now even more traumatized after the BR, and rightfully so.
Could she one day be in a relationship with a male/female? Sure. But that time is not now, right after ACOSF.
Right now, she is NOT ready for a relationship with anyone (including Azriel).
Do not get me wrong. If there had been ANY sign she had shown interest romantically in any character - I would not be saying this. But she has not shown that for anyone, let alone for Azriel.
Gwyn is going to eventually heal. But she does not need a man to do so. She does not need to play sidekick to Azriel and help him handle his so called "darkness" to heal.
Y'all can't just force her into a ship when she's clearly not ready for a relationship. Well, I suppose you can, but that would be disrespectful to SA victims everywhere.
Fictional character or not, SA trauma is real. Forcing this timeline of healing on Gwyn or shipping her with someone just so she can "fix him" or suit his "sexual freak" nature is just downright ignorant.
If y'all like Gwynriel because you think the aesthetic is cute or you think they'd compliment each other - that is fine. But this dialogue of Gwyn is gonna fix him and she and Azriel HAVE to be together because some half-baked statement from Azriel's POV - it's so weird.
Stop shipping women with people they have shown no interest in. Same goes for people shipping Elain with Lucien, when she loses her boldness around him and shrinks into herself.
Literally the moment SJM shows Gwyn is ready and likes Azriel or Elain suddenly gives Lucien the time of day out of her own free will, I will fully accept and understand the other ships.
But for now, I am shipping the couple that has actually shown desire and attraction and affection for each other. Just my opinion, and I'm not entertaining any arguments on this.
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Y'all really think Vassa is going to end up with that human trashcan Jurian when he's literally the slimiest jackass to grace the page since ACOTAR?
Oooookay.
Honestly, if these Lulu fanatics really claim to love Lucien as much as they say - they should be praying he's the one who gets with Vassa, not Jurian. I don't care about Vassien but that's the only other woman he's been around lol so y'all better hope she likes him.
Because he's certainly not ending up with Elain, SJM made that clear. So unless y'all want poor baby Lulu to end up alone, it's high time to leave those Jurian delusions at bay.
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I don’t understand how antis claim that elriel has no romantic buildup and in the same breath say that their romance started off page. I hope we get an announcement soon. I’m so tired of this.
They are swerving left and right trying to avoid the very obvious ELRIEL sign. Literally no theory sounds illogical or ridiculous when you hate a certain character or love a certain character. Your mind can delude you into thinking anything is true if you try hard enough.
Sucks to be them though. I'd be desperate too if my ship had zero positive interactions in canon and all the articles about the next ACOTAR book and major verified accounts were gushing about Elriel 🤷🏻♀️
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feeling: confused how people can say they got the ick from Azriel's sexual thoughts about Elain in the BC, and yet adore ACOSF and want a watered down version of ACOSF 2.0 with Gwynriel
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Why does "Oh, it's not that Elain doesn't want Lucien, she just doesn't want a mate."
Have the same energy as "Oh, Azriel doesn't want Elain, he just wants a mate."
Oh, right. Duh.
Both were illogical statements circulated by antis to deny the very obvious fact that Elain & Azriel only want each other.
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"Elain hates fae that's why she doesn't want Lucien right now"
Uh huh. Ok.
Except for the fact that:
Her entire family is now fae
Her life is in Velaris, with other fae
Her friends N+C are fae
She helps an old fae out with their garden
She herself said to Feyre that they need to respect fae traditions for Solstice
She cooks and bakes fae food
She is attracted to a fae male (Azriel) and gives her permission for him to kiss her
She got aroused for Azriel (a fae male)
She participates in solstice, buying presents for her sisters and Azriel
She claims she is a part of the NC
She is ready and willing to do her part for their court by offering to scry - "find me when you wish to begin."
I could go on. But I think it is very clear that Elain's problem with Lucien is not the fact that he's a fae male. It's the fact that she does. Not. Want. Him.
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The way I see it between elain and lucien is that its not personal. Elain doesnt want a mate at all. But, Lucien just so happens to be her mate and I feel as if its not him shes opposed to, its more of the mating bond which in her eyes doesnt give her much of a choice. She also had a lot taken from her, so I think of her avoiding the bond is because she wants to feel some element of control. Which is why I think shes going for Az. I know az and elain have a connection, but, I really think it's rebellious of her going for az. Correct me if I'm wrong, I really ship elriel. 😭
I also don't think it's personal. But Lucien & "mate" are synonymous terms to Elain. Whether she does not like Lucien because he's her mate or because her mate is him specifically.... doesn't really matter?
Elain doesn't want a mating bond. She doesn't want a mate. She made that clear. You can't separate the idea of Lucien as a partner from the idea of Lucien as a mate at this point because their bond has already been revealed. They are one and the same.
If their bond hadn't been revealed already and Elain had grown to like Lucien naturally somehow, that would've made sense.
If their bond had been revealed and Elain continued to talk to Lucien (not desperately avoid him) and eventually fell for him, that would've also made sense.
But it was not written that way. Their bond came first, and Elain did not even know who Lucien was when it snapped for him. He essentially made a claim on her and she probably did have some degree of resentment. Especially because that event was associated with her also losing her mortality and fiancée.
But to say Elain is only going for Azriel because she wants to rebel and avoid her bond ... is not a logical or accurate statement. If she wanted to avoid the bond, she could've continued to just avoid Lucien without pursuing another. She could've continued to pine over Graysen.
But SJM specifically wrote Elriel scenes. Why bring Azriel into this if Elain was just feeling a little rebellious?
Why not write Elain's "rebellion" as having her sleep around like Nesta did? She is the most beautiful sister, she could have anyone she wanted. Why have her specifically focus on one person, have her buy presents for him, have her give her permission for him to kiss her?
To say Elain is just feeling "rebellious" is likening her to an errant child, once again. She is a perfectly grown woman, capable of making her own decisions. She is out here getting aroused when Azriel touches her neck, and people are still acting like we don't know what she wants.
When the fact is - we do know what Elain wants. People just don't respect that she wants Azriel, or think they know "what's best for her" because they revere a "mating bond" and baby a 300 year old grown man over anything else.
We've always known what Elain wants. And that's love, not a mate.
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ugh I can't believe incel!Az strikes again 😫😫 how dare this Lothario act on his lust 😩 for shame 😞 can't believe this fuckboi is doing so much just to get laid ☹️
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SJM: <tells us about how mating bonds can be rejected, tells us not all mates are true pairings of love, tells us the cauldron is corrupted to create mating bonds with strong offspring, talks about wanting to write about rejected mates, spends 3 books writing about how Elain is uncomfortable and avoids Lucien, writes endless Elriel moments>
Eluciens: SJM is a fated mates author and Elucien are mates and therefore they are in love with each other and they are endgame
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Friendly reminder that Cassian did not say "Elain looks bad in black therefore she doesn't belong in the NC"
He starts out the entire scene by talking about how both Elain & Nesta are part of the royal family. (Does that sound like he's saying she doesn't belong in the night court?)
Then he says Elain in black is ridiculous. Which is true. That was the POINT. Elain was purposefully wearing a color and dress that made her look bad so Nesta would stand out and be Eris bait.
He does not say "Elain in black means she will never belong in this court"
Cassian says the color leeches the brightness from her face. He does not say Elain being in the Night Court sucked the life out of her, he said her wearing BLACK sucked the life out of her.
It's basic sentence structure. "But wearing black" is not a complete sentence. "But wearing black, no matter how much she claimed to be a part of this court..." also not a complete sentence.
"But wearing black, no matter how much she claimed to be a part of this court... it sucked the life from her." Complete sentence.
Also he comments on how Elain doesn't like the cruelty of Hewn City. Not, the entire night court. Elain glows with health in Velaris (also part of the NC fyi).
Everyone knows Hewn City is not a representation of the NC. If it were, then the IC wouldn't have to put on a whole show to go there every time 🙄.
If people could just read the text in the context of the story, all these ridiculous takes wouldn't exist. I'm tired of fighting over what is clearly stated in the books. I'm tired of fighting people's farfetched interpretations when the text is right. there.
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"Elriel isn't a forbidden romance because all Azriel had to do was tell Rhys that he loved Elain in order for Rhys to back off. All Elain has to do is reject the mating bond to be with Azriel. Lucien won't call a blood duel."
Aside from the fact that the entire argument above that antis love to use is 100% just based on assumption - it's also not as cut and dry as that?
Rhys fears a political conflict when they already have bigger problems in Prythian. He is - to a degree- using the mating bond Elain & Lucien have as a way to keep Lucien in line. As a way to force Lucien to be loyal to them. There is also the possibility that Lucien could call for a blood duel (regardless of whether or not he would). Rhys doesn't want that, even if he agrees that Azriel could beat Lucien.
And while it's true that Rhys does not know the depth of feelings Azriel has for Elain, again, that's not something SJM would get into during a bonus chapter in Nessian's book. He orders Azriel to stay away from Elain to protect his court, simple as that.
Elriel is also a forbidden romance because while Elain does not belong to Lucien, she is still technically his mate. In the ACOTAR world, that is associated with some kind of claim. Most people do not get between mates (cough: see Tamlin backing off reluctantly when he found out Rhys & Feyre were mates).
Azriel clearly has feelings for Elain. Elain clearly has feelings for Azriel. Elain can't openly be with Azriel in front of Lucien until she rejects the bond (which, we don't know that Elain even knows that's an option). Azriel was ordered away from Elain, by Rhys. Rhys doesn't want to risk a war or lose Lucien's loyalty.
Is their entire book going to be them sneaking around? Probably not. But that's definitely how it will start because that is what has been already set up in the bonus chapter.
Hope this helps 🫶🏼
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