Times like these I wish there was some actual gain from Louis stunting. Don’t get me wrong I hate every part of the fact that both of them are closeted but sometimes I do find myself wishing Louis would at least date someone well known and get some promotion from it or have it work in his favour for the narrative. I loathe Wilde and that feeling has only gotten more intense after I had to see her at my HSLOT show dancing like she was having an exorcism but I can however acknowledge that the relationship is textbook PR for the movie and Camille was for the Fine Line promotion to sell the album as much as it was to closet him and from a business stand point it’s all working, quite well if I do say so myself. This isn’t me blaming Harry for his situation or downplaying it or trying to paint him out as a greedy person it’s just that it works for his career and we can all see that. But with Louis? where are we going with this? Nowhere. His music hasn’t been properly promoted since 2017, fans are pretty much single handedly keeping his entire career afloat out of sheer love for him and appreciation for him and his talents. I think I’d have been able to swallow all this stunting down a bit more easily if it didn’t feel like someone was making good on a grudge they held against him. A dog walker with no job and ambition who looks dead inside and a child from a Trumpie family and a club thot groupie for a mother, this isn’t even a Drake and his child situation it’s just one massive crock of shit.

Anon you lost me at the first sentence. HL don’t pick and choose what works for them, they get what they get and they make it work best they can.

Camille served the exact same purpose E does. Camille was a beard, and after the fact, their whole relationship was used to sell FL. E was brought back to create a narrative for Walls. Same shit different day

No shit his situation fucking sucks. He’s been closeted for a decade. He’s been in a long term relationship for longer than that. At the same time, he’s trying to keep his career and fans afloat among all this. Why are we asking for more bullshit to surround him?????? Why does everyone want HL to be miserable in the tabloids because “it makes them more popular” what fucking year is it

just coming here to respectfully scream that i am so fucking over holivia. i don’t want to see them hear about them look at them. their whole relationship feels like a slap in the face and it’s so fake that it makes me cringe. i don’t even follow blogs that talk about them and i have their tag blocked and STILL hear about them. everything olivia does seems so fake to me and it makes me feel uncomfortable about harry by proxy. i know that’s not fair but i’m so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so over them why would he want to be affiliated with someone who says and stands for such crap. she just seems so attention seeking and i’m so over getting annoyed by them

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I miss you guys, I really hope you haven't abandonded this blog, pease come back 🥺

Hey anon!

Sorry for the radio silence over here, we've just been a bit busy with school, work and everything going on in our lives that we had to take a bit of a break. But we're back and ready to chat whenever you are😊

Okay sorry for the long ass ask but I was watching the FaceTime video again because something (I mean everything tbh) was bothering me and I just couldn't figure out what it was. So I tried to watch it from a different point of view, forgetting about all the stuff happening around it. Let's pretend Louis is the father, he saw F the last six years in private, he saw Bentley and his mum on Twitter and wanted to FaceTime them.

Why wait a week to call her? I know probably because of different timezones and stuff but its not impossible to find a reasonable time for both, so why did they wait until Louis was in LA.

Why would Louis expose his child to a fan like that? Yeah it was just a call but why would he do that? If I would be famous I definitely wouldn't get my child involved in a fan phone call.

But everyone is different I guess, so let's pretend it's normal and Louis doesn't care for privacy for a second. It's still weird for him to ask F to say hi to a stranger. Like, why? It's not like Louis knows bentley or his mom, so why does he want him to say hi? I don't know I just find it weird, that just because he is talking to another kid he wants F to say hi. My parents wouldnt have done something like that. I actually don't know anyone who would do that, unless you want the children to be friends, which definitely wasn't the plan here.

And then the part that I think is the strangest: why is he not even looking at F when asking him to come say hi? He is looking down, it almost looks like he is annoyed by it. Why isn't he looking at F when he is talking to him?

In conclusion: it all just makes no sense to me

Exactly, nothing makes sense. I didn't even watch the video because it's just too painful for me. My heart breaks on behalf of Louis, the poor fan who was used for this and the innocent kids. Sick.

i feel like those two times louis visited F during 2021 was for him to get comfortable around each other for the christmas stunt, because they really don’t know each other and louis is basically a stranger to the kid. it really sucks for everyone going through it and i hope it can end soon, the 1st stage of the pandemic in 2020 was a perfect time to end it tbh and i feel like they missed it idk why. but hopefully something good will come out of tour, ig the fitf stuff give me a little hope but idk anymore tbh

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Harry has become too much of a blank space, I'm sure he has opinions about everything happening with his career but bc he doesn't say them, anyone can project whatever they want onto him and come to whatever conclusion. Idk if that's honestly the best strategy cause I feel like we never get to see his real self anymore

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- Is hyping up her film DWD, a film in which the entire premise is basically nonconsensual entrapment and therefore all sexual activity in said film is actually assault, by saying its all about “female pleasure.” 

THIS THIS THIS!!! I HATE THIS SO FUCKING MUCH!!! Idk if y’all remember this was a hot topic when the news of the movie came out and script was leaked, a lot of people were worried that it would encourage assault and they didn't want Harry related to that. And now the very own director is downplaying the whole subject of the movie bc of her fake feminism. I just I hate her so much 😩

Please, Olivia has no idea about feminism, she is a huge pick me girl whose catering to men is disguised as "feminism". Her motto should be “I can do all the shitty things men do, but don’t blame me for them because I AM A WOMAN and you will be misogynistic for that”.

She has such a warped perception of reality that she thinks mentioning sex every 5 minutes is emancipation. It's pretty obvious they are trying to sell that movie on it and Harry performing these sexual activities, with no regard to his character being an abuser which, in my opinion, is pretty gross and offensive to Harry himself.

Babygate is so weird lately. First Louis and Freddie are seen together, Freddie is in Doncaster during Christmas, Louis acknowledge him for the first time in years and wishing him a happy birthday thru twitter. Freddie’s real family not posting him so much like before and his birthday was so weird. Tammi and a few others congratulated him on instagram but Briana did nothing. Also there were no birthday party which is weird bc every year they threw a party for him and posted it on social media. At first I thought it was bc his birthday was a friday and they throw his party at the weekend but nothing. Now the next weird thing: Tammis birthday was on sunday and both Tammi and Briana posted something and you saw that they were together. So Briana can congratulate her mother on IG but not her son.

( English is not my first language I hope you can understand me)

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I'm decently new to Larry, only like 6 months since I looked into it. Ive read all i can into it. But everything right now feels kinda chaotic?

We got the articles on that clickbait site about Louis helping encourage Harry to paint his nails, and then a friendship article too. Even if they're nothing but clickbait them showing up was still a bit like, wtf? Friendship narrative maybe??

BBG coming back and being *so dang forced* after years of silence. Along with E ignoring the shit out of it and being (seemingly) petty.

The forced down our throats stunt Harry is in. Barf.

Idk. I wanna hope this is all leading to something but I also know that's probably way too optimistic? It just feels like everything is suddenly happening at once after a while of nothing? Maybe it's just me I'm unsure.

Anyway, thanks for this blog that let's us air out our grievances! Haha hope everyone has a wonderful week!

Hi! You can air out all the grievances here you have!

I agree, everything looks really chaotic and I just wish we knew where they are trying to go with it. As always, hoping for the best, expecting the worst.

Question. Do you think that Harry and Louis will ever hang out publicly again in the future? I feel like management is still heavily restricting them from interacting.

Hey! Before coming out? I don't think so, sadly.

Okay here comes a very unpopular question but I share it bc it keeps me up at night..

I believe in Larry and I believe that all the gfs and F are fake. But recently I got a little doubt and thought about... what if L made a sperm donation back then and F is his real child? Do you think it could be possible?

I mean, he started to get contact with him after he left old label and stuff - perhaps he is more "free" now to see him?

I know its an unpopular opinion and probably doesn't make sense.. and I really don't want to upset anyone and I'm not an anti. It was just a thought that crossed my mind when I tried to think about the WHY behind all this...

Hi nonnie, I can assure you that Louis 100% did not become a sperm donor for F 😆 He was always "free" to see him, he just didn't cause he is not the dad :) I honestly wouldn't try to make too much sense of whatever they are doing now as it's obvious that it's fake as hell, they're desperately trying to make Louis suddenly look like a good parent and that it won't erase the years he spent on ignoring this kid.

Louis is not a father.

It really is funny to me that Louis sees a boy roughly the age of F on Twitter, and seizes the opportunity, sends a message to the mother to set up a call, and then tells her he’ll be travelling in a few days (from UK to US). He then proceeds to choose the 15 minutes from the entire WEEK the mother waited to be smack right in the middle of his precious time he spends with his son. He really is so good to his fans, aw, really does have his priorities straight.

And then? Then finally the detail about F on the call hits Twitter MONTHS after the initial call, right while BG is being pushed from all sides, and the fandom is in disarray. It’s so organic? Is it real? Lots of larries doubting or straying into twarrie territory. And what does Louis do?

He goes and likes an Instagram post with the caption „REAL birthday“ of a football player who’s birthday is the same date Louis initially posted in his very first tweet about F, reminding us all that this is all fake, and pretty much even signs it with a little blue heart 💙

It’s the Twarries and casual fans they have to convince that Louis thought all along that that Freddie really was his, so he doesn’t lose half his fanbase when they feel lied to and ridiculed. That’s why it’s so „organic“ that’s why it’s not articles but fan sightings and social media family posts. It isn’t about the gp. His fanbase‘s strength lies in its loyalty, not its numbers (so far).

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I didnt see anyone mentioning it but i think eleanor making sure she is not with louis and the kid both on xmas and during kids birthday will be important in ending narrative-last time tabloids talked about custody it was because briana was angry at louis dating danielle and i belive they will just switch names and say briana didint let eleanor anywhere near F and louis wanted formal custody now (friendly reminder they dont have formal court approved custody now,it is their ticket for the end imo)

Yeah, I do think it’s on purpose too. She’s not posting anything she’s not supposed to post, so it definitely might be used in the narrative later on. Right now it looks like a really toxic situation: E purposefully shows herself away from her future step son during his first ever visit to UK, then openly shades the whole situation by posting a bunch of love letters to Cliff, even mentioning his age which is the same as F’s, after ignoring the kid’s birthday. It either looks like she’s the evil stepmom who’s mad at Louis for knocking B up during the break in their relationship and can’t accept his child, or like B isn’t letting her see the kid and Louis is fine with it. Both are shitty situations and no one looks good, including Louis.

I do think their initial plan was to go for the custody route, so let’s see how this plays out.

So, I kinda get the feeling that Tammi took over from Briana stuntwise. B has done nothing but delete pics lately and seems completely uninvolved with the kid.

Tammi has always been the head bitch. Who in their right mind sells their newborn child for fame and money

i genuinely believe that this ramping up of bg content is to end it sometime this year. i don’t think it’s a coincidence that louis is touring this year and has been heavily hinting towards lt2/single release, and bg is happening in full force again after years. i think they’ll end it around the time he’ll be releasing lt2 because it’ll generate publicity and logically, it’ll be smarter to end it then. and the reason why we’ve been getting all this content of louis with f is so that the story comes off sympathetic to louis and the publicity coming out of it won’t be damaging to his image. like the gp won’t care that they haven’t interacted at all since like 2017, they’ll see that they spent this christmas together, louis’s birthday, etc and buy the story you know? this could also just be me being overly optimistic but just thought i’d share in case anyone is looking for a potential bright side to this. thanks for creating this safe space by the way! i love that you’re doing this!!

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Eeehh... wouldn't it make more sense for Freddie to attend a concert near him rather than a festival in the UK? And it's not like kids never go to concerts. The twins went to 1D concerts.

Oh, definitely! And at that time I didn't even think they could get him to the UK in August. The thing is though, they didn't have problems with bringing the kid for Christmas in the middle of omicron's surge, so at least personally I find it weird that for a family who acts like they adore F so much and the dad is so involved, they didn't want him to attend such a huge event of his parent. I mean, it's not like they got to spend any milestones together in the past anyway, but you know.

I just don't want the kid to be further exploited if they eventually plan to end it. Bringing him to a concert with many unpredictable fans, who will be filming him and then send the videos or pics to creepy update accounts is just not it. His privacy should be protected, especially at such a young age. He never asked for it.

Any ideas of why E is completely not involved in BG?? I mean doesn’t she would love the attention and cloud she would get from it like Louis sisters? I wonder if she’s not allowed for what ever reason or if she really doesn’t want to .. ik E is not a worth discussing topic but I just don’t get how she plays the role of the 10 year girlfriend but has never had any contact with the „son“ from her „partner“ and the way she postet so clearly that she is not with Louis on his 30 birthday??

(English is not my first language sorry)

Hello, never apologize for your English, it's perfect and the fact you're speaking more than one language is incredible!

As for the question, I fully believe that Eleanor simply refused to touch babygate when she agreed to come back and - kudos to her. It may be one of a very few good decision she's ever made. Of course, it makes the situation look even shittier, considering the woman Louis supposedly is planning to marry in the future wants nothing to do with his oh-so-beloved and outgoing son but well. Just another reason that shows that either it's fake or they are all terrible people.